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This girl started talking to me on POF and we hit it off, with roleplaying over messages and texts, etc. She also kept saying how ridiculously nervous she was to meet (her first date using POF).

 

We met up and broke the ice playing mini golf. We were both a little nervous and the odd time it felt a bit quiet but we both got more talkative. She kept laughing at my jokes, being sarcastic, playfully whacking me on my arm. I made physical contact back too.

 

During dinner, we talked a lot and had quite a bit in common. She was laughing a lot, kept asking me questions and adjusting her hair, etc.

 

After, we went to the bar and talked again. She told me this wasn't as awkward as she thought it was going to be. She also mentioned about her trip away that she was going on with her friends from Monday-Thursday.

 

Anyway, I decided to call a halt to the night and walked her to her car. Outside her car she turned towards me and we kissed quite passionately for a good 20-30 seconds. I pulled away and she reached back in to peck me on my lips with a kiss and she smiled, then she playfully put her hand in my face.

 

When she got back she text me "I'm home :) thank you for a really good night xx" so I replied in agreement.

 

Then I saw she added me on Facebook and at 1am she liked the tagged location I was in (where we were).

 

Today she text me "Evening [my nickname] ;) how are you? good day at work? x". So we sent a few jokey/teasting texts to each other, etc. Her texts were 3-4 lines long.

 

I decided to ask when she's free to get together again after her holiday and she said something in reply to my joke then added "I think I'm free Friday and Saturday x" so I suggested Friday at 6pm to go to one of these escape rooms where we have to work together and would be fun.

 

She says "Will it be open with it being good Friday? I don't know for certain if i'll be free yet, but I am so far :) so meeting up Friday sounds good x".

 

I told her that I could book it but not sure they'd let me cancel if it's short notice and that we can do something different.

 

She says "Oh right, if I let you know for definite on Wednesday, that okay? x". I replied "That's good with me. Anyway I'm going to get an early night, old age kicking in! Goodnight x".

 

She replies "Fabulous :) old man [my name] ;) night xx".

 

Maybe I'm overthinking it, but she doesn't seem too eager to meet me and I feel like i'm the backup plan if anything else comes up. She's quite a sociable girl with her group of girl friends. She also told me she's very career orientated too. She shows me the positive signs in person and gives me fun, flirty, detailed texts but not sure.

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She's just coming off of a vacation with Easter just around the corner. It's busy. She talks about Good Friday, so is she trying to get to church too? I really don't see this as being back burner. She's being open about her weekend being a bit sketchy, and telling you she'll give you a definite answer a bit later in the week, Wednesday. She is expressing her interest. Easter is this weekend. Don't overthink this. She seems interested. I wouldn't book that Escape thing. You can plan to do that another time when plans can be a bit more solid. Just consider something easy. If she's tired from her vacation and working the holiday weekend with family and possibly church, see if you can grab an hour or two for coffee or a drink, and when things slow down, plan another date.

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Sounds like she has a life! Based on the texts you say she sent, she definitely likes you. But she's not going to drop everything for a guy she just met, and that's how it should be! You're nervous so you're overthinking it, but just play it cool and give her lots of room to miss you!

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This girl started talking to me on POF and we hit it off, with roleplaying over messages and texts, etc. She also kept saying how ridiculously nervous she was to meet (her first date using POF).

 

We met up and broke the ice playing mini golf. We were both a little nervous and the odd time it felt a bit quiet but we both got more talkative. She kept laughing at my jokes, being sarcastic, playfully whacking me on my arm. I made physical contact back too.

 

During dinner, we talked a lot and had quite a bit in common. She was laughing a lot, kept asking me questions and adjusting her hair, etc.

 

After, we went to the bar and talked again. She told me this wasn't as awkward as she thought it was going to be. She also mentioned about her trip away that she was going on with her friends from Monday-Thursday.

 

Anyway, I decided to call a halt to the night and walked her to her car. Outside her car she turned towards me and we kissed quite passionately for a good 20-30 seconds. I pulled away and she reached back in to peck me on my lips with a kiss and she smiled, then she playfully put her hand in my face.

 

When she got back she text me "I'm home :) thank you for a really good night xx" so I replied in agreement.

 

Then I saw she added me on Facebook and at 1am she liked the tagged location I was in (where we were).

 

Today she text me "Evening [my nickname] ;) how are you? good day at work? x". So we sent a few jokey/teasting texts to each other, etc. Her texts were 3-4 lines long.

 

I decided to ask when she's free to get together again after her holiday and she said something in reply to my joke then added "I think I'm free Friday and Saturday x" so I suggested Friday at 6pm to go to one of these escape rooms where we have to work together and would be fun.

 

She says "Will it be open with it being good Friday? I don't know for certain if i'll be free yet, but I am so far :) so meeting up Friday sounds good x".

 

I told her that I could book it but not sure they'd let me cancel if it's short notice and that we can do something different.

 

She says "Oh right, if I let you know for definite on Wednesday, that okay? x". I replied "That's good with me. Anyway I'm going to get an early night, old age kicking in! Goodnight x".

 

She replies "Fabulous :) old man [my name] ;) night xx".

 

Maybe I'm overthinking it, but she doesn't seem too eager to meet me and I feel like i'm the backup plan if anything else comes up. She's quite a sociable girl with her group of girl friends. She also told me she's very career orientated too. She shows me the positive signs in person and gives me fun, flirty, detailed texts but not sure.

 

 

 

She does not know if she is busy "yet". But it depends on the situation it seems.

 

You are absolutely right to be suspicious. I would be very wary for now and don't invest too much.

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I hate it when people say they might cancel but will book it in "for now".

If you like this girl, suggest that you do something light, like having coffee or a good restaurant that doesn't need reservation. See if she says okay to this. If it's just not convenient for her, just book another time when you both are available.

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Shew not that into you. Dont u want a girl that is " hell yes" from the b3ginning?

 

Im pretty sure if she was into you she would have said lets do sat definite or something.

She said what she said so she can have an out to csncel for fri. If i were u id make plans already rather than being a chump sitting around till wed waiting. Women like this are ridiculous and manipulative. She know what shes doing

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It sounds like your date with her went really well and it is obvious that she likes you. I wouldn't sweat it.

 

Afterall, she's coming back from vacation, maybe she just wants to see how she feels after she comes back. Going away prep and spending time away from home, coming back and unpacking, getting ready for the upcoming work week can be tiring ... plus with Easter coming up she might need to keep things open to family.

 

I'd venture to say you are indeed overthinking it.

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She's just coming off of a vacation with Easter just around the corner. It's busy. She talks about Good Friday, so is she trying to get to church too? I really don't see this as being back burner. She's being open about her weekend being a bit sketchy, and telling you she'll give you a definite answer a bit later in the week, Wednesday. She is expressing her interest. Easter is this weekend. Don't overthink this. She seems interested. I wouldn't book that Escape thing. You can plan to do that another time when plans can be a bit more solid. Just consider something easy. If she's tired from her vacation and working the holiday weekend with family and possibly church, see if you can grab an hour or two for coffee or a drink, and when things slow down, plan another date.

 

She doesn't go to Church, but she is coming back after a few days away with friends. I guess because I've been on dates where the girl has shown positive signs it was going somewhere then it doesn't, it made me a little hesitant :p I didn't book it, but she says she'll let me know for definite on Wednesday so I'll see. Most likely we'll go for bowling and drinks if she ends up being free. I told her the other night that I wouldn't want to book it incase something came up for her and told her we could do something different instead. Suppose I'm just worried about the time between seeing each other, is over a week a bit long between dates? Guess I'll find out.

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Sounds like she has a life! Based on the texts you say she sent, she definitely likes you. But she's not going to drop everything for a guy she just met, and that's how it should be! You're nervous so you're overthinking it, but just play it cool and give her lots of room to miss you!

 

You're correct. We've been talking quite a bit over text and her texts always seem to include emoji/emoticons and are positive. She isn't going to drop everything for a guy she's met once, I'm just worried what if our schedules conflict? I get a couple of days off a week but I mostly work lates. Maybe some times I could meet her early before work, etc.

 

I've not come across needy or desperate to her, don't worry. I played it cool and said to her "That's good with me" when she asked if letting me know by Wednesday was okay. I find it easier to vent on here :o

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You're correct. We've been talking quite a bit over text and her texts always seem to include emoji/emoticons and are positive. She isn't going to drop everything for a guy she's met once, I'm just worried what if our schedules conflict? I get a couple of days off a week but I mostly work lates. Maybe some times I could meet her early before work, etc.

 

I've not come across needy or desperate to her, don't worry. I played it cool and said to her "That's good with me" when she asked if letting me know by Wednesday was okay. I find it easier to vent on here :o

 

I completely get it, I'm an overthinker too :)

 

 

As far as the schedule stuff goes, if she likes you, she will make time for you. That might be confusing as I just said that she has a life and won't drop everything to text you back, BUT If someone really likes you, they make the time, because they want it too.

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I hate it when people say they might cancel but will book it in "for now".

If you like this girl, suggest that you do something light, like having coffee or a good restaurant that doesn't need reservation. See if she says okay to this. If it's just not convenient for her, just book another time when you both are available.

 

Yeah, it's Monday today and we haven't spoken as I wanted to leave her to enjoying the first day of her small holiday. I was considering texting her something fun on Tuesday, but then I thought I could leave it until Wednesday when she was going to tell me her plans but maybe 2-3 days of no contact would be a bit long. Either way I'll suggest bowling and drinks if I do contact her Wednesday (we joked about her beating me at bowling next when at the bar).

 

If she says she can't make it and doesn't suggest an alternate time then I'll say okay i'll make other plans, maybe some other time, etc and leave it. When she did postpone our first date, she did ask me when I'm free and told me what days she was free. Her other actions tell me there's hope.

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I completely get it, I'm an overthinker too :)

 

 

As far as the schedule stuff goes, if she likes you, she will make time for you. That might be confusing as I just said that she has a life and won't drop everything to text you back, BUT If someone really likes you, they make the time, because they want it too.

 

Yeah haha, that was my first thought thinking well if she liked me and wanted to see me, she wouldn't tell me she "thinks" she's free friday and saturday, then suddenly says she might not be either. Confusing considering she showed a lot of interest! I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and walk away if she doesn't offer any alternate time :p

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Shew not that into you. Dont u want a girl that is " hell yes" from the b3ginning?

 

Im pretty sure if she was into you she would have said lets do sat definite or something.

She said what she said so she can have an out to csncel for fri. If i were u id make plans already rather than being a chump sitting around till wed waiting. Women like this are ridiculous and manipulative. She know what shes doing

 

I thought maybe she was playing hard to get to keep me guessing. I'll most likely make new plans with someone else so if she says she can't friday i'll say that's okay I've got plans already, maybe another time. But then like others have said, we've been on one date and she has a very active social life so doubt she'll drop it all for a guy she hardly knows.

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I thought maybe she was playing hard to get to keep me guessing. I'll most likely make new plans with someone else so if she says she can't friday i'll say that's okay I've got plans already, maybe another time. But then like others have said, we've been on one date and she has a very active social life so doubt she'll drop it all for a guy she hardly knows.

 

Girlw will drop stuff for a guy she harrdly knows if she likes them. Iv seen girls drop and do things for a guy they barely know after not doing that stuff with me etc.

Girls on here will also tell u that girls will do that.

Even if you go on dates with this girl it wont end up anywhere i can tell. Shes no that into you. Watch how she meets a new guy and all off a sudden doewnt matter whether its xmas or holidays she will have time.

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Girlw will drop stuff for a guy she harrdly knows if she likes them. Iv seen girls drop and do things for a guy they barely know after not doing that stuff with me etc.

Girls on here will also tell u that girls will do that.

Even if you go on dates with this girl it wont end up anywhere i can tell. Shes no that into you. Watch how she meets a new guy and all off a sudden doewnt matter whether its xmas or holidays she will have time.

 

Maybe. Gave her a days break as it was her first day on holiday. I've text her just before so guess we'll see. If she doesn't reply then not sure whether to get in touch once she's back Thursday night or just leave it assuming if she was interested she'd get in touch. She's initiated a lot already so it wouldn't change if she did still like me. I'll probably just let it go and focus on someone else if no reply though, not texting twice.

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This girl started talking to me on POF and we hit it off, with roleplaying over messages and texts, etc. She also kept saying how ridiculously nervous she was to meet (her first date using POF).

 

We met up and broke the ice playing mini golf. We were both a little nervous and the odd time it felt a bit quiet but we both got more talkative. She kept laughing at my jokes, being sarcastic, playfully whacking me on my arm. I made physical contact back too.

 

During dinner, we talked a lot and had quite a bit in common. She was laughing a lot, kept asking me questions and adjusting her hair, etc.

 

After, we went to the bar and talked again. She told me this wasn't as awkward as she thought it was going to be. She also mentioned about her trip away that she was going on with her friends from Monday-Thursday.

 

Anyway, I decided to call a halt to the night and walked her to her car. Outside her car she turned towards me and we kissed quite passionately for a good 20-30 seconds. I pulled away and she reached back in to peck me on my lips with a kiss and she smiled, then she playfully put her hand in my face.

 

When she got back she text me "I'm home :) thank you for a really good night xx" so I replied in agreement.

 

Then I saw she added me on Facebook and at 1am she liked the tagged location I was in (where we were).

 

Today she text me "Evening [my nickname] ;) how are you? good day at work? x". So we sent a few jokey/teasting texts to each other, etc. Her texts were 3-4 lines long.

 

I decided to ask when she's free to get together again after her holiday and she said something in reply to my joke then added "I think I'm free Friday and Saturday x" so I suggested Friday at 6pm to go to one of these escape rooms where we have to work together and would be fun.

 

She says "Will it be open with it being good Friday? I don't know for certain if i'll be free yet, but I am so far :) so meeting up Friday sounds good x".

 

I told her that I could book it but not sure they'd let me cancel if it's short notice and that we can do something different.

 

She says "Oh right, if I let you know for definite on Wednesday, that okay? x". I replied "That's good with me. Anyway I'm going to get an early night, old age kicking in! Goodnight x".

 

She replies "Fabulous :) old man [my name] ;) night xx".

 

Maybe I'm overthinking it, but she doesn't seem too eager to meet me and I feel like i'm the backup plan if anything else comes up. She's quite a sociable girl with her group of girl friends. She also told me she's very career orientated too. She shows me the positive signs in person and gives me fun, flirty, detailed texts but not sure.

 

Hi @fmfan08

 

Thanks for your post.

 

One of the biggest challenges in these situations is the constant mental detective work that goes on during the dating process. In particular, i'm referring to the interpretation of text messages. It can be really tough and can really play with peoples emotions. Not sure if that's happening for you right now but I suspect it might be a touch, given the fact that you are posting here.

 

Anyway, I think the most important thing for you here is to ensure that you aren't too attached to the outcome of the situation. An attitude of "if it happens it happens, if it doesn't it doesn't" would be well worth executing here - mainly because this woman does sound like someone who is a bit of a social butterfly and could end up letting you down based on some of the messages you've received.

 

Take it a day at a time and don't read into every minor detail. One thing I'll say - make sure that you stick to your guns in terms of how you wish to be treated. In other words, if she mucks you around and cancels at the last minute or changes plans etc, then I think it's really important to speak your truth - but in a very calm and centred manner (not angry) that demonstrates that you expect to be treated with a certain level of courtesy and respect. That is unless she has a good excuse...

 

Hope that makes sense.

 

Any questions, please let me know.

 

Cheers

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I am a firm believer in trusting your gut, and it sounds like your gut is saying something is up. If you sit there and analyze conversations, texts, etc., it's hard to know what is really up. I have found my gut instinct is actually pretty accurate at picking up small clues my brain seems to miss.

 

 

Like others have said, if a girl is really interested in you she will jump through hoops to see you. She will do things like leave a family Easter a little early to catch a late movie with you. Instead of saying she'll let you know Wednesday, she will say she may have a busy weekend but if she can't do it Friday she will meet with you to do something Saturday. Or she has things to do, you pick a day and she will schedule around that. With the holiday and work etc., it may be busy but she would be definite if she was in to you.

 

 

I am guessing the clue you are picking up is she is not committing despite not having anything planned. I can tell you that this weekend for example, I am waiting to find out if I have to work the entire weekend, from Thursday evening all the way through Sunday it would be about 50 hours of work. If a girl I really liked wanted to do something, I would offer late Friday night or Saturday as I could easily make 3-4 hours for a date late at night and would welcome the diversion. I would work all night Friday or Saturday if that is what it took to see her. For someone I was not all that into, I would not plan anything.

 

 

I would say trust your gut but give her until Weds when she was going to confirm, but if by 6-7pm at the latest she has not lived up to her end of the bargain and confirmed, I would move on. If she can't even own the initiative to cancel or confirm with you by a reasonable time on Wednesday, you can bet that in the future trying to get her to go out with you and confirm and not flake, will be like pulling teeth.

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I am a firm believer in trusting your gut, and it sounds like your gut is saying something is up. If you sit there and analyze conversations, texts, etc., it's hard to know what is really up. I have found my gut instinct is actually pretty accurate at picking up small clues my brain seems to miss.

 

 

Like others have said, if a girl is really interested in you she will jump through hoops to see you. She will do things like leave a family Easter a little early to catch a late movie with you. Instead of saying she'll let you know Wednesday, she will say she may have a busy weekend but if she can't do it Friday she will meet with you to do something Saturday. Or she has things to do, you pick a day and she will schedule around that. With the holiday and work etc., it may be busy but she would be definite if she was in to you.

 

 

I am guessing the clue you are picking up is she is not committing despite not having anything planned. I can tell you that this weekend for example, I am waiting to find out if I have to work the entire weekend, from Thursday evening all the way through Sunday it would be about 50 hours of work. If a girl I really liked wanted to do something, I would offer late Friday night or Saturday as I could easily make 3-4 hours for a date late at night and would welcome the diversion. I would work all night Friday or Saturday if that is what it took to see her. For someone I was not all that into, I would not plan anything.

 

 

I would say trust your gut but give her until Weds when she was going to confirm, but if by 6-7pm at the latest she has not lived up to her end of the bargain and confirmed, I would move on. If she can't even own the initiative to cancel or confirm with you by a reasonable time on Wednesday, you can bet that in the future trying to get her to go out with you and confirm and not flake, will be like pulling teeth.

 

I texted her before just to check in with her (early afternoon).

 

Me - Made you look! Hope you're enjoying your holiday. Bet you have a hangover right now.. tut tut trouble ;) x"

 

 

(10 mins later) Her - Loving it, at the seaside at the moment.. blowing the hangover away. How was your day off? x

 

 

Me - You'll have to fetch me back some rock. [some type of candy] My day off was good, went out to see the new Kong film x

 

I sent my reply two hours ago and she had her phone on her because at the same time she posted pictures of her and her friends at the seaside onto Facebook, then an hour later she shared something on it.

 

Was it because I didn't ask a question or it didn't need a reply?

 

My gut is telling me her vibe seems to be a little off, but was thinking she was busy out with friends and that she might text later when she's settled down and she's not outside.

 

I was going to send a second text asking a question, then I'd know for sure she's ignoring me and I'd just move on then.. Or should I wait until tomorrow and contact her about fridays plans?

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Women tend to be glued to the social media and texting. She feels no desire or urgency to respond to you.

 

Nor does she feel the urgency to commit to Wednesday with you, despite not having solid plans.

 

Shouldn't this tell you where you stand with her?

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Women tend to be glued to the social media and texting. She feels no desire or urgency to respond to you.

 

Nor does she feel the urgency to commit to Wednesday with you, despite not having solid plans.

 

Shouldn't this tell you where you stand with her?

 

Yeah, it was the feeling I was getting. I was thinking it was because I didn't ask a question but then I haven't in the past and she still replied lol. I'll try one more time tomorrow morning (Wednesday) sending "Morning :) So how about you beat me at bowling on Friday at 6, then we can get some drinks after? If you're still free"

 

If I get no response then I'll leave it and probably remove her number (to avoid texting again) and unfriend her on facebook (maybe not too sure on that).

 

Annoying when the date goes great, I get all the positive signs and I even get positive texts yet a day later it just goes downhill..

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Funny how I text a totally different girl who text me three hours ago, I sent the text and this current girl replies lol. She said "Only amazing golf players get rock xD any good? x".

 

I'll leave it until later to reply as I'm starting work soon. She knows yesterday was my day off so she'll probably assume I'm working. Don't want to text back suddenly. I think I need to talk to a couple more girls in the meantime so I don't keep overthinking.

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If it were me.. and I was totally into a guy. I would ditch all other plans (except for family events) to spend time with them. I would tell my friends "sorry but I met someone and we are going out, so I'll have to plan another time with you" and go meet him. Family plans are entirely different, if she said she had plans with her family Easter weekend, then thats understandable.

 

I would make sure you aren't singling out this girl, and meet others. No use in sitting and waiting for someone.

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I was going to send a second text asking a question, then I'd know for sure she's ignoring me and I'd just move on then.. Or should I wait until tomorrow and contact her about fridays plans?

 

 

Why would you contact her about plans for Friday?

 

 

If she has you wondering, you can get your answer really easily. The responsibility is on her to let you know if Friday works or not. If she lets you know one way or another, then maybe there is interest. If she blows it off for any reason, no matter what reason, you have your answer 100%.

 

 

If you message her tomorrow about Friday's plans, you'll be left wondering what it means if she responds, doesn't respond, cancels...so make it easy on yourself. Give her a chance to show or not show respect and interest.

 

 

Think about this, if you were really busy, on the fence about her, had super models chasing you, you would not be primed up to take the initiative to follow up. You would demand that potential dates at least put in the effort to live up to their responsibility when they make plans contingent on their schedule. When they say they will let you know, the very least they could do to show any interest at all is to follow through and let you know.

 

 

If you check your eagerness you can have your answer tomorrow based on whether she follows up or not. If you go all school girl giddy and text her again today to judge her response time or tomorrow to ask her if you are still on because you need to know and can't be patient to wait to see if she follows through, you lose probably your one chance of really knowing where you stand.

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If it were me.. and I was totally into a guy. I would ditch all other plans (except for family events) to spend time with them. I would tell my friends "sorry but I met someone and we are going out, so I'll have to plan another time with you" and go meet him. Family plans are entirely different, if she said she had plans with her family Easter weekend, then thats understandable.

 

I would make sure you aren't singling out this girl, and meet others. No use in sitting and waiting for someone.

 

There's a possibility she might have plans with family. She is already on holiday within the country (renting out a cottage for four days) with her close friends so if she is busy I'd be guessing it's family. Her photos from her holiday so far show drinks, etc anyway.

 

But then again everyone acts different. She might not want to prioritise too early on a guy she's just met.

 

She could be playing hard to get too. I mean she gets back to me, jokes and asks a question. Maybe being the social girl she is, she's been told not to act too keen and trying to keep me on my toes. Guess I'll find out soon enough.

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Why would you contact her about plans for Friday?

 

 

If she has you wondering, you can get your answer really easily. The responsibility is on her to let you know if Friday works or not. If she lets you know one way or another, then maybe there is interest. If she blows it off for any reason, no matter what reason, you have your answer 100%.

 

 

If you message her tomorrow about Friday's plans, you'll be left wondering what it means if she responds, doesn't respond, cancels...so make it easy on yourself. Give her a chance to show or not show respect and interest.

 

 

Think about this, if you were really busy, on the fence about her, had super models chasing you, you would not be primed up to take the initiative to follow up. You would demand that potential dates at least put in the effort to live up to their responsibility when they make plans contingent on their schedule. When they say they will let you know, the very least they could do to show any interest at all is to follow through and let you know.

 

 

If you check your eagerness you can have your answer tomorrow based on whether she follows up or not. If you go all school girl giddy and text her again today to judge her response time or tomorrow to ask her if you are still on because you need to know and can't be patient to wait to see if she follows through, you lose probably your one chance of really knowing where you stand.

 

She did end up replying, but guess she was busy at the seaside. She said "Only amazing golf players get rock :p any good? x". I'll reply later as I have work. If the conversation goes into tomorrow I'll bring it up but if it ends tonight and we both say goodnight, then I'll wait until tomorrow night for her to bring it up.

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