explorer Posted July 26, 2005 Posted July 26, 2005 Domination + submission. I've done a little of both with a couple of GFs in the past. I'm thinking about a personal ad for a female partner (either role) emphasizing the D+S fun. I'm curious if many women have similar feelings and place or respond to such ads....and why/why not? Thank You
Jolene Posted July 26, 2005 Posted July 26, 2005 'cause that's what perfectly good prostitutes are paid to do. The difference you're looking for is that you want a girl to also convince you she likes it and will smile while performing for you for free. At the end of the day she is just another walking semon receptacle to you. Just my opinion! Fetishes are rarely just that and can lead to the worst emotional travesties. Fetishes usually explode into worse deviant behaviours and underlying social problems. Sometimes not, though. Generally, S&M is a starting point for other deviant behaviours. Get help!
A Fly onThe Wall Posted July 26, 2005 Posted July 26, 2005 Originally posted by Jolene Fetishes are rarely just that and can lead to the worst emotional travesties. Fetishes usually explode into worse deviant behaviours and underlying social problems. Sometimes not, though. Generally, S&M is a starting point for other deviant behaviours. Get help! Huh !!!! What rock did you crawel out from under.. Maybe you can quote your sources that S&M is a starting point for other deviant behaviors.. Just 'cuz you don't do it doesn't make it bad or wrong .. A fetish is just a fetish .. Nothing more.. Not deviant
Jolene Posted July 26, 2005 Posted July 26, 2005 That you will end up eating for breakfast!! Quotes don't override experience, and I don't crawl out from under a rock, darlin'....you have no clue. For instance, do you really think a guy who claims to be straight really is if he asks his wife to penetrate him with a prosthetic penis and wants to suck it, too? But don't worry, cause he's straight and really loves his wife and is open about all that he tell her. That's not enough, so he buys porn like, umm, oh I don't know "Transexual Beauty Queens" and hides it from his wife for months until she stumbles upon it while cleaning. She is devastated. They divorce. He moves on to a new woman, and the whole cycle continues. Meanwhile, marriages are broken and the little hearts of children. And it all started with little thing we call a fetish. That's all. And I believe I did say that sometimes it's harmless. Take it easy! Hey man!!! Whatever turns you on, but I read the post and I have my opinion. Been there/done that. Deal with it. ~ Have a great day, too!!! No offence taken. None intended.
A Fly onThe Wall Posted July 26, 2005 Posted July 26, 2005 Originally posted by Jolene Transexual Beauty Queens" He is talking about domination and submission not Transexual Behavior. Every relationship operates on some domination and submission traits.. Including all of yours.. Does that make you a deviant ?
Israfil Posted July 26, 2005 Posted July 26, 2005 Originally posted by explorer Domination + submission. I've done a little of both with a couple of GFs in the past. I'm thinking about a personal ad for a female partner (either role) emphasizing the D+S fun. I'm curious if many women have similar feelings and place or respond to such ads....and why/why not? Thank You Placing an ad just seems sort of sketchy to me. You never know what you are going to get. I suggest this: Pay some visits to your local BDSM establishment. Usually these are private, members only clubs, that have bouncers to keep out the riff raff. Generally, the people who frequent these places are really wonderful people, who are open and willing to share their knowledge (and often themselves ) with you. Originally posted by Jolene Fetishes are rarely just that and can lead to the worst emotional travesties. Fetishes usually explode into worse deviant behaviours and underlying social problems. Sometimes not, though. Generally, S&M is a starting point for other deviant behaviours. Get help! On what evidence are you basing this argument? Do you know anything about the BDSM lifestyle? And I really don't think the original poster deserves to get verbally accosted for his preferences.
Jolene Posted July 26, 2005 Posted July 26, 2005 What the original poster is looking for is sex and so needs to post somewhere else. That's my point. Not rocket science. But with all do respect, carry on! My only suggestion in reality would be to find the downtown core and visit the leather shops and I'm not talking about handbags here. These places often have flyers, magazines, clubs etc. that are specific and cut to the chase. There may be a downstairs or upstairs portion that sell very kinky attire. Ads in the newspaper will attract people looking to make money, I think. If that's not what you want, sorry! What this person is looking for is a group of people with some common ground. Fetish parties are a dime a dozen if you look in the right place to start. Many swingers and people into hard core S&M seek out these parties and go to all of them looking for new players, you know, whatever works. Also, if you browse some of the up and coming tattoo artist shops and bodily piercing places, they too will have advertisements and invitations to such events and other extravagant places. okay guys?????
Israfil Posted July 26, 2005 Posted July 26, 2005 Thanks for the reply Jolene, but you still didn't answer my questions. I'll repeat: Originally posted by Jolene Fetishes are rarely just that and can lead to the worst emotional travesties. Fetishes usually explode into worse deviant behaviours and underlying social problems. Sometimes not, though. Generally, S&M is a starting point for other deviant behaviours. Get help! . On what evidence are you basing this argument? Do you know anything about the BDSM lifestyle?
Jolene Posted July 26, 2005 Posted July 26, 2005 yes, I do, as a matter of fact! I know an awful lot. I'm very very old you know...35. And the information I relay is textbook. Written by a phsychiatrist versed in personality disorders, specifically bi-polar mood disorder and Sociopathic personality disorder....both of which carry traits such as an unusually high sex drive and uncontrollably deviant and promiscuous behaviour. The topic is discussed matter of factly and non-judgmentally. As far as BDSM, so many people delve but aren't hard core. All the power to u wherever you lie. Why so defensive? If that's what a person is into, who cares? Live and let live. I just don't think this is the forum for it. Bye bye then
A Fly onThe Wall Posted July 26, 2005 Posted July 26, 2005 Originally posted by Jolene And the information I relay is textbook. Written by a phsychiatrist versed in personality disorders, specifically bi-polar mood disorder and Sociopathic personality disorder....both of which carry traits such as an unusually high sex drive and uncontrollably deviant and promiscuous behaviour. The topic is discussed matter of factly and non-judgmentally. As far as BDSM, so many people delve but aren't hard core. All the power to u wherever you lie. You still didn't post your sources to back up such a claim as you made in your first post. This last post doesn't address it at all.. it is still just your opinion. and IMO you are very off target.. Nowhere in the OP post does it say he is looking for sex.. And you mention that you know alot about BDSM behavior .. enlighten us ..
A Fly onThe Wall Posted July 26, 2005 Posted July 26, 2005 Originally posted by Jolene Why so defensive? someone posted a question that you didn't need to answer and you went all moral and took the highground on his lifestyle and rip him a new one instead of answering his question... You are judgemental..
scratch Posted July 26, 2005 Posted July 26, 2005 Originally posted by A Fly onThe Wall someone posted a question that you didn't need to answer and you went all moral and took the highground on his lifestyle and rip him a new one instead of answering his question... You are judgemental.. People have already asked her to substantiate her claims, and the best she came up with was "I'm 35 and that's old." Let it go, Fly. Sometimes it's just better not to feed the animals. On topic: as a male, it can be very difficult to capitalize on personal ads, internet or otherwise, where you explicitly discuss sex. I think you'd be better off searching for ads to which you can respond. Even then, downplay the physical and treat her like a normal woman, until you get to that point in the relationship. Then beat her silly.
Israfil Posted July 26, 2005 Posted July 26, 2005 Originally posted by Jolene And the information I relay is textbook. Written by a phsychiatrist versed in personality disorders, specifically bi-polar mood disorder and Sociopathic personality disorder....both of which carry traits such as an unusually high sex drive and uncontrollably deviant and promiscuous behaviour. Interesting. Care to share the citation? And what about other sources that corroborate this hypothesis? Originally posted by Jolene Why so defensive? I am not defensive. I just find it disturbing when someone posts such a flagrant statement with no actual basis in provable science.
Jolene Posted July 26, 2005 Posted July 26, 2005 I would like to help you with your disturbances, however, I don't tote around my home library and cannot provide complete bibliography to back up my statements. By the way, it's a free world. My formal apologies to all those who have taken offense on this lovely 'GENERAL RELATIONSHIP' forum where a post regarding BDSM was presented earlier today. I should have known this was normal conversation between people in typical relationships. What was I thinking?
clandestinidad Posted July 26, 2005 Posted July 26, 2005 Yeah, I wouldnt approach this through the personals....its too dangerous, on many levels (std's, murderers, abusers, people who claim to be women but arent...either trannys or gay men or men who like to rape people, etc etc) I'd look into contacting groups (not necessarily meaning for group sex of course) in your area, where you can meet/date/whatever, people who share similar interests...its much safer and more likely to form a longer lasting relationship than the alternative. I've been tattoo'd and pierced, and havent EVER seen any BDSM propoganda in these establishments so I wouldnt go there for this matter. I'd say look on the internet for interest groups, sex stores, blah blah blah (and i think its funny, the things some people consider deviant behaviors just b/c they dont have the balls to do it....granted, SOME people carry things too far but its NOT the majority) Also....do you have the movie Secretary?!?!? Its one of my favorites of all time!!!!!!!
explorer Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 replys are really appreciated. Clearly Joene has some deep issues, I hope she gets the help she needs. At least she brought out the best in other posters. Anyone have advice for her? Ironically, years ago I met an attractive lady who was REALLY into this stuff, but I used to be afraid of this stuff back then...so nothing happened.
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