Why does she want to make me jealous when SHE is the person who dumped me?

[Jonathan18]

Hello,

 

My name is Jonathan, 18 years old, and to come straight to the point.. my girlfriend broke up with me last thursday..

 

We've had a relationship for the past 3 years and I just don't understand why she broke up with me, it's just not fair in my eyes.

 

 

So.. how did this all happen?

 

You can read the story below or watch my video where I explain the situation: [link redacted]

 

 

last week I had a feeling something was not alright, she was acting very dry and cold, so I asked her.. has it ANYTHING to do with me?

We've made a promise to each other that she would tell me if ANYTHING bothers her, so we could work on it and prevent a break up. (she has communication issues and she finds it hard to speak openly to me)

 

So when I asked her if it had ANYTHING to do with me last thursday she said no.

I said, are you sure because it doesn't seem like it? She said yes, i'm sure.

So I was really happy it had nothing to do with me, and so we could work on it.. I thought.

 

Not even 2 hours later she broke up with me and this came as a TOTAL SHOCK!

 

She gave me a few reasons:

- She was very busy with combining school/work/internship and was very tired all the time. Even the moments we were together she was very tired. She thinks she has more time in the future, but that's wrong. It's gonna get even worse. If you really love someone time isn't an issue but she doesn't see that..

 

- We've had some relationship issues in the past that she cannot forget about, she for example cheated on me (no seks, only kissing and talking with someone else) and I've said some things what really have hurt her.

We both regret these things our deepest.

 

- She always came to our house I never came to visit her at her dads house (this has a reason).

 

In general she said ''I need to choose for myself now, I need to work on myself).

I asked her if it was all my fault why she broke up or if it had other reasons where I couldn't do anything about as well?

She said no, it's not only you..

 

We've kept contact with each other until yesterday because I told her I can't be friends with her.

 

 

About the reasons she broke up with me.

First of all if you're busy with school/work and all that, NORMALLY you look forward to the times you can be with your lover, we saw each other every weekend.. also if you're in a situation like this supporting each other is very important so I don't understand why she breaks up with me.

And the reason I didn't visit her at her dads place is a long story.. I've tried visitting her where she lived but she didn't quite like her parents (her parents are divorced and live seperately), so I didn't felt like visiting her there and she agreed on that with me. In the hard times for her she was at our place every single day, she got a lot of power and support from our family, but luckily for her this has changed in the years, she has now a good relationship with her dad (where she lives) and now, after all this time, she doesn't like it that I don't visit her at her dads place, but this is because it has been this way from the beginning, it's strange and hard for me to visit her at her dads place after all this time. But I told her it's not a problem, that shouldn't be a reason you break up with me because I want to work on that as well.

 

 

So after explaining the situation a bit, now my question is.. will she miss me eventually? will she come back? what do I need to do? should I contact her after some time even if I told her no contact is the best?

I just thought breaking the contact between us lets her see what she threw away and maybe miss me eventually.

 

Thank in advance!

 

- Jonathan

Edited January 23, 2017 by a LoveShack.org Moderator
youtube link redacted ~6

[Purepony]

I believe and will bet there's someone else

You two are at a young age

[preraph]

Look, no amount of trying to argue with her about it is going to make any difference. She's tired of being in a relationship. She's not into it enough to want to make time for it. You're both at the age when relationships simply don't last because you're both changing and that's normal. I know it hurts. There's nothing you can do but move on though.

[Jonathan18]

Hello everyone! I'm in a really hard situation right now and I don't know what to do.. thanks in advance, I really appreciate it!

 

I am Jonathan, 18 years old and to come straight to the point.. my girlfriend of 3 years, broke up with me, 2 weeks ago.. In these 2 weeks we've still kept contact with each other and been talking every now and then (2/3 times a week via whatsapp) about some random topics. (we still laugh with each other)

 

In these 2 weeks I've seen her once, to just talk. This was outside and it was very cold. The weird part here is that she still wanted to sit on me because she was freezing. I didn't have to ask for this, she did this on herself. Also.. when we left, we still kissed. If she breaks up with me, why does she still want to do these things? And next time I see her, should I kiss with her again? Or what should I do to get her back? Act awkward on purpose so she will think we can't do these things anymore unless she comes back?

 

 

So.. why did she break up with me?

 

The break up was very sudden and I didn't see it coming, at all! She acted a bit dry the past few weeks. I've asked her if it had something to do with me and she told me it hasn't.

 

She gave me a few reasons why she broke up with me:

- She was very busy with combining school/work/internship and was very tired all the time. Even in the weekends when we were together, she was very tired. She thinks she has no time for a relationship right now, and because she didn't really get energy from the relationship anymore she decided to give it up.

 

- We've had some relationship issues in the past that she cannot forget about. I already told her ''time heals everything'' and that you just need to move forward, don't look back. And eventually you will get over it. No relationship is perfect in the world.

 

In general she told me: ''I need to choose for myself now, I need to work on myself, I can't give love if I don't even love myself''. I asked her if it was my fault or if it had other reasons where I couldn't do anything about and she said it wasn't just me.. It sounds she is really depressed. She is hitting the gym almost every day now to work on herself, to eventually feel happy about herself again.

 

Also.. people who comment she left me for someone else, no. I know for a fact she isn't cheating. Trust me.

 

So after explaining the situation a bit, now my question is.. will she miss me eventually? Will she come back when she worked on herself? what do I need to do? should I contact her after some time even if I told her no contact is the best?

 

I am just afraid that if I break contact with her that she will forget about me, and that IF she's ready for a relationship again that she's over me and don't choose for me. When on the other side, if I keep in contact with her, even if it's just for a little bit, that the step to choose for me again will be easier for her. Idk...

 

♥

 

- Jonathan

[Nadine123]

I am just afraid that if I break contact with her that she will forget about me, and that IF she's ready for a relationship again that she's over me and don't choose for me.

 

The more you contact her the more she backs off. Just remember that.

[DarrenB]

 

So after explaining the situation a bit, now my question is.. will she miss me eventually? Will she come back when she worked on herself? what do I need to do? should I contact her after some time even if I told her no contact is the best?

 

 

It shouldn't matter whether she would want to reconcile romantically with you in future. You said it yourself, she had given precise reasons as to why she broke up with you (school, work, self-esteem etc), therefore the last thing that both of you need embedded in your mind is whether there's going to be a future between the two of you. She has done the correct thing in being completely honest, I respect that greatly. I wish people would consider doing so more often.

 

You need to do nothing. Well, nothing that would provoke you or the situation at hand. Like I said the last thing you or her needs is to be burdened by 'is there going to be a future', 'will we get back together'. If it is meant to be, it will happen. I don't recommend contacting her, especially if you're trying to give off a certain impression after the breakup. Acknowledging and initiating 'NC' but then breaking it for whatever reasons doesn't show tolerance, patience and directness, more so desperateness and dependency on your previous significant other. Once she has mended herself and developed herself to a point of which suffices with her, I'm sure she will contact you at that point. If not then you can only assume that things aren't how they were meant to be, and that's perhaps when analyzing and over-analyzing can occur.

 

As for now, take this time apart to do things that you enjoy, without her involved. You need to be able to continue your routines and typical days, you cannot let someone who is uncertain of feelings towards you or themselves burden your outlook on life and your future.

 

Best of luck.

[fromheart]

Here's the hard truth...

 

She's not too busy, thats an excuse to not hurt your feelings. She's still kissing you because she needs some affection and your available. When the next man comes along, she'll stop the intimacy.

 

You're being a doormat and being used. If a woman dumps you and you accept scraps from the table, they will become very cruel very quick. It might not seem that way, but her respect for you is currently at zero and falling. She has all the power where she can do what she wants. You need to readdress that power by walking away. She'll most probably start to miss you then, and respect you for the firm stance you take in life. No gurantee that she comes back, but if she's going to then walking away will trigger that. But bear in mind that if she's dumped once, she'll probably do it again.

 

So right now you're in a position where you're ruining any chance of reconciliation, getting a girl who's better for you, and being emotionally abused by her.

 

Go NC and move on. Tell her you're not interested in friendship, she can call you if she changes her mind.

Edited January 8, 2017 by fromheart

[jamili]

Sounds like you didnt do anything desperate yet. This is good. You are in the perfect position. You must walk away , now! Its the only way. Every day that passes that you dont, your chances for reconciliation dwindle more and more. Wish her well, and walk away.

[Jonathan18]

Hello everyone, my name is Jonathan, 18 years old and I really need some support from the forum.

 

I've posted another thread a few days ago explaining the whole situation I'm in, (you can read this over here: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/breaking-up-reconciliation-coping/breaks-breaking-up/608769-there-still-hope)

 

But basically a long story short.. my girlfriend of 3 years broke up with me because she is very busy with school/work/internship etc. and couldn't get any energy from the relationship anymore. She tells me she ''needs to work on herself'' because I'd say she had a ''burn-out'' or she was very depressed because of her busy life and she just couldn't handle a relationship at the same time.

 

Another reason is, 1 year ago she cheated on me (kissing wise, no sex was involved), and she just can't forgive herself for this mistake, and she thinks that I don't trust her anymore. I told her multiple times that I do trust her, but she can't forgive herself for that mistake.

 

So after going NC for 1 week I realised that she still had a t-shirt of me that I really wanted back, so I basically HAD to break NC. When I went to her house to get the t-shirt she told me that a friend of ours contacted her and told her that we (my ex and I) had to talk and get back together.. my ex however was very angry at her for saying this and she told me: ''I like how things are going right now''.

 

So she was basically saying a life without is fine and works out better then having a relationship. After hearing this I felt absolutely heart broken, because obviously I was still having hope every day that she would change her mind, but she was thinking the opposite and actually enjoyed her time without having to ''worry'' about keeping the relationship up.

 

So after that I told her I can't live with that sparkle hope everyday, and I told her that she has the time until February 10th (1 month from now) to think what she really wants.

 

She told me she ''doesn't know how things will work out in the future'' and she can't tell me IF she's ready for a relationship if it will be me or another guy, but I told her she has the time to think about that and make a decision on/before February 10th, because after that date I decided for myself that I need to go on with my life, I can't keep having hope..

 

Is this a good thing I did, and what should I expect? Is the 1 month period enough for her to realise she can't live without me? Is she gonna miss me?

 

Thanks everyone, I ♥ the support from this forum!

 

- Jonathan

[William]

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/breaking-up-reconciliation-coping/breaks-breaking-up/576206-members-when-posting-updates-your-breakup-read-first

 

Three threads merged and there may be some duplication of content on this break up. Thanks and please continue!

[Jonathan18]

I'll give you all a quick overview of the situation first:

 

18 years old male, and about a month ago my girlfriend broke up with me after a 3 year relationship.

 

December 22th - she broke up with me out of the blue, and told me she ''needed to work on herself''. She is very busy with work/school/internship etc. and she can't handle a relationship she told me. She was always tired and had no life outside me and her school/work. Also last year she cheated on me (no sex, only kissing and texting), because I didn't treat her right. She tells me she can't forgive herself for that mistake she made, so that was also a reason to break up with me she told me. But the main reason was that she ''needed to work on herself''.

 

Then 3/4 weeks later - I didn't go NC and we were still texting occasionally. I told her multiple times that I needed a definite answer from her, I asked her: ''Tell me.. IF you're ready for a relationship again will you come back to me or not?'', she always replied with: ''Idk... Idk... I can't look in the future''. I asked her this question multiple times because I really wanted to know in what situation I'm in, where I'm dealing with and if I need to have hope, or if I need to move on.

 

So as I said before she had no life outside me, she barely had any friends. Last Saturday I went out to a club and to my suprise I saw her standing there with an old friend of hers. I even saw her dancing with another guy, she was holding his hand and he even tried to touch her ass, but as soon as his hand went there she gently pushed him away and she made him clear that she did not like it. After seeing this I asked her if we could talk. At first she didn't really like it that I was there and that I searched contact, but she said yes and we talked. I was talking about the relationship again (a little bit drunk), and I told her we could make it work again etc. She then began to cry and walked away from me and told me: ''No, we can't make it work again'' while crying and walking away.

 

Then 30 minutes later I saw her, we talked and I asked her: ''I think you used that 'I need to work on myself' as an excuse to end the relationship, I think the relationship is the problem and not that working on yourself'' She replied with: ''Yes, the relationship is the problem''. So she basically lied to me when she broke up with me...

 

Then I asked her again: ''IF you're ready for a relationship again will you come back to me or not?'', and now she replied with: ''No, we will never come back together''. I asked: ''So all feelings are gone, are you over me?'', she replied with: ''Yes''. I replied with: ''Thank you for being honest, now I can finally move on and lose the hope I still had'' and idk why I said the following (I think to check if her feelings were really gone), but out of nowhere I said this: ''So you don't mind I talk to this girl?'', she then said: ''What girl? Who? Show me'' etc. She was really mad/jealous at me (I think), and this clearly showed she was not over me. her girlfriend came to us and she dragged her away from me, and they went home.

 

I texted her and told her: ''If you block me (on whatsapp) I know it's done between us, forever.. no more contact, no more friends, no NOTHING. But if you decide not to block me I know it's not over, that you might come back one day, we keep in touch, friends etc.'' Because she told me she still wanted to be friends and that she can't imagine a life without me.

 

So when I woke up I saw that she had seen my text message and that she didn't block me, so I happy and texted her and asked: ''So, what you said yesterday.. you didn't mean it, right? Was it because you're mad?'', she then replied with: ''No I ment it, it's over, forever''. And then we got into a fight, she started to say stuff like: ''Go to that of yours, who you're talking with'' and all that stuff.

 

So what do I need to think of it? Is she over me? Did she mean it or was it because I was making things worse to talk to her and push her? IF she ment it then why is she still jealous? And what do I need to do now? NC?

 

Thanks in advance!

[dragonfly23]

Yes!... women are confusing! She is 18, just starting to learn about the real world, and very overwhelmed at everything she is taking in. She is trying to get a grasp on what she wants to do with her life and the idea of a serious relationship, is making her feel trapped. She tried to let you go, without hurting you too bad. She wanted to be "just friends", but you wanted more. The more you persisted to bring up the relationship, the more you pushed her away. She finally got to the point that she realized that subtle hints wouldnt work, and she had to be blunt. She is trying to tell you that it is over, with no chance of getting back together, but she is too nice. She doesnt want to hurt you, and that is why she lied... not to betray you, not to be spiteful, but to protect the heart of a person she considers a friend. Friends is what you now have to accept. If you cant be her friend, then you wont have any part of her at all. The topic of a relationship can never be discussed again, unless SHE brings it up. Loosen the grip and let her find herself. Someday you may find each other again, but that is not today

[mystificatecg]

DUDE, GHOST HER! NO ONE SHOULD BOTHER REPLYING TO YOU ANYMORE BECAUSE YOU MUST GHOST HER FOREVER! The advice is the same no matter who says it. Ghost her!

[ExpatInItaly]

There is way too much drama here.

 

Look, you started dating when you were 15. The chances of that being your first and last love are slim to none anyway.

 

Do yourself a favour and go (and stay) No Contact. You will meet other girls.

[Jonathan18]

Hello everyone!

 

Just a quick question.. why is my ex girlfriend still jealous?

 

Info:

 

I'm 18 years old and my 3 year long relationship with my ex ended a month ago. This was both our first relationship.

 

She ended it because she ''needed to work on herself''. She was busy all the time and when we were together she always felt tired. She also was a bit depressed, so out of the blue she told me it's over.

 

Also, she cheated on me 1 year ago (no sex, only kissing and texting) and she told me she can't forgive herself and she thinks I don't trust her and all that.

 

After keeping in touch and talking occasionally, for a month now, I asked her multiple times: ''IF you're ready for a relationship again, will it be me or someone else?''. She always replied with: ''I don't know, I can't look in the future''.

 

So after asking this multiple times, on a night out in the club (I was a bit drunk, she wasn't), she finally gave me an answer to the question. ''No, we will never be together anymore''. Immediately after she said this I told her a lie and said: ''Ohh, so it's okay I talk to this girl?'' and left to let her mind go crazy. (I have no clue why I said this haha, maybe it was my intuition).

 

A day later I made a fake instagram account and some whatsapp chats to make it look legit, and pretend I was talking to this ''girl'', because I KNEW she would text me, asking about who this girl is etc. and... it happened. She was like who is it? why are you guys texting each other blabla blaaa..

 

Then two days later (right now), she texted me again and asked me if I was talking to her, she seemed just sooo jealous. But why is she doing this if she told me there is no future for us anymore?

 

She now blocked me on whatsapp, instagram, snapchat just everything, with the last text: ''I'm going to block you now, go text with her and all that. Have a nice life!''.

 

I told her multiple times I want her and ONLY her, and that I want to work on everything, but she didn't want it anymore and now she is jealous af? Why?

 

Thanks everyone!

Edited January 24, 2017 by Jonathan18

[preraph]

It's fairly normal to still be kind of jealous even if you are the one breaking up. She doesn't want you but she doesn't want anyone else to have you. It seems like men are even worse about it. First whiff they get of a new man, it goes beyond jealous and sometimes prompts them to try to reunite, which they later wish they hadn't done. It's ego stuff, mostly.

[Jj66]

You were together for 3 years. It's normal for her to feel a tinge of jealousy at this point. She'll get over it.

 

Find yourself a real girl and not one you made up to try to manipulate her.

[Jonathan18]

Hello everyone, just a quick question.

 

Why is my ex girlfriend still jealous after she told me we would never get back together again. (we were together for 3 years, she broke up with me a month ago, we've had contact occasionally)

 

The reason she broke up with me is that she didn't see our relationship work out in the future, and she was very busy with work/school/internship etc and this gave her depression I think. She had no life outside me and her busy life, she had no friends, she didn't go out etc. Now after we broke up she got back with an old friend of hers and having lots of good times together.

 

I tried going NC but she keeps contacting me because other girls comment on my instagram etc. and she is jealous about it. She thinks that I talk to them and want a relationship with them.

 

In the time we broke up, a lot happened. Her dad got diagnosed with cancer and a lot of other stuff happened in both our lives and so SHE came with the idea to meet up some time and just talk about what's been going on. Why does she want this?

 

She even asked me to go shopping with her. As ''friends'' I suppose, but after analyzing everything, all the signals tell me she still has some feelings for me. Or atleast, that's why MY feeling is telling me.

 

It just doesn't make sense, she told me that we would never come together anymore, but she is still SUPER jealous and it seems she still wants to hang out with me sometimes. But if she never wants to get together anymore then why is she jealous and still wants to talk to me? That just doesn't make sense to me.

 

All answers are appreciated! Thank you!

[Jonathan18]

My ex girlfriend (who broke up with me after a 3 year long relationship) wants to have sex with me after being apart for 1 month now, should I do this?

 

She is SUPER jealous that I talk to other girls (that's why I think I should do this because if it's really over why is she still jealous?)

 

I still love her and I really want to have sex with her because I miss the sex af, but she doesn't want a relationship right now, she isn't ready for it. And IF she's ready for a relationship again she doesn't know if it will be ME or someone else.

 

She says she isn't using me and that she still wants me in her life because it's weird to lose someone who was a part of your life for so long.

 

She tells me I need to see it as friends with benefits. I still believe we could get back together in the future, but she can't say this/guarrentee this. because she doesn't know for sure.

 

Can I get my ex back by having sex with her? What are the do's and don'ts?

 

Thanks everyone!

[Sweetfish]

I feel like any advice I provide will be wasted advice because rarely do relationships like this continue past 20-21 when dating began at a young age in this era and hook-up culture. Secondly you'll probably will not listen to my advice as you haven't listen to others.

 

But if you want to listen and learn this is the best advice I will give you.

 

Your 18/19?

 

aquire your education and work on your wealth as your #1 priority over ANYONE even your family. You and your famiily can always kiss and make up after you achieve your goals if they are not supportive. When you have wealth and education you can pass your achievements down to your family.

 

Work on your health and go to the gym or start running or whatever. Take care of you. Your health will eventually effect your wealth in the future and your market value in reguards to looks and jobs. Yes.. you will be denied and can be denied because of your looks and yes you can get discounts and better benefits if your health is on check as my job does this.

 

Work on your social skills. Meaning have fun and date.

Join clubs or activities. Learn to bond with people and become self aware.

 

You keep chasing your ex and mourning over women your going to meet the same results everytime. "She said this, but did that" welcome to the game pal. Its not confusing.. just look at action over words and know how reality works.

 

If you have sex with your ex... kiss your relationship good-bye. She is now using you. I understand you knew her for 3 years...but she is now changing and unpredictable.

 

Her being jealous is very common human trait. If you sold your car that you loved to your neighbor because you bought a new car... if you saw him washing and cleaning it every weekend you too may be jealous. Doesn't mean you want the car back.

 

Best to go N.C. to allow both of you to grow.

Edited January 30, 2017 by Sweetfish

[mightycpa]

I don't know what could be better than to be 18/19 and have occasional sex with a girl you like AND to be free of the obligation of an exclusive relationship.

 

First, you must realize that the chances of you two staying together, no matter what you do right now, are very close to zero. Accept that as fact.

 

Second, what are the chances you'll both go to the same universities? Even if you do, will you have the same circle of friends? Chances are close to zero. Accept that as fact.

 

Third, what are the chances that you will not be attracted to any of the smart and beautiful women who are going to explore their newfound freedom and sexuality in school? What are the chances that she won't be attracted to any of the guys? Chances are close to zero. Accept that as fact.

 

Should you have sex with her? Absolutely. When you do, tell her that you've been thinking seriously about what she said. Tell her that you love her too, but you can understand that she doesn't want a relationship right now. Tell her she's really smart, and that you want to try it her way. Tell her that you'd still like to see her and have sex every once in a while. Maybe every two or three months, if her schedule allows it. Whip out your phone, and make a date to do it sometime in April.

 

If you can get two or three of those arrangements going, you'll have the best 2017 you can imagine. Plus, you can date other girls without the pressure of needing sex from them.

 

I didn't learn the wisdom of this until I was 23. I had a girlfriend who tried to tell me that right after I went to college, but I wouldn't listen, because I was all "in love." The way that worked out was that I had 4 exclusive girlfriends, all of whom dumped me after a while. It was only after the 4th one that I said F*CK IT, and I did what I now counsel you to do. Thus began the best 7 years of my singles life, and there was no shortage of very nice women to date, and definitely no shortage of sex. It was friggin' awesome, and the best part was that when I eventually agreed to date somebody exclusively, she was head and shoulders above any girlfriend I'd had before. I could afford to be picky and I was.

 

You're way to young to worry about steady girlfriends. Just have fun for now. When you're my age, you'll be so glad you did.

[Jonathan18]

Helloo,

 

My ex-girlfriend and I broke up 6 weeks ago. We've had a relationship for 3 years with ups and downs and after trying to work things out so many times, she doesn't want to work on it anymore. She wants to focus and work on herself because she was not doing herself good with all the stressing.

 

After talking occasionally for the past 6 weeks, she gave me a lot of mixed signals. First she told me: ''We will never be together anymore,'' and after giving her some time and space, she realised that she actually didn't really like it that other girls were talking to me and told me: ''Maybe we can come back together again, but right now I don't want a relationship. But there is a chance we can come back together, yes.''. Maybe I'm Plan B and I realise that, but she isn't talking to other guys (I know that for 100%), so I think I still have a chance. We both still have (jealous) feelings for each other and we definitely don't like it to see each other with someone else. Which is naturally and normal after a breakup, I know, but still..

 

But the thing is... My ex girlfriend is afraid that IF we come back together again that the struggles we had won't be different this time and that we will fall back into the same ****. She also said that we didn't do enough ''fun things'' together. This was mostly because of our busy schedule of school/work etc.. I'm trying to convince her that when I turn 18 things are gonna change, when I turn 18 I am allowed to drive a car and so we can do fun things ALL THE TIME, every weekend! And the moment I told her this I just felt that she was doubting her decision and was thinking Hmmmmm maybe, maybe... but she isn't convinced, yet.

 

Also she for example told me she wants to go shopping with me, to see how she feels about it. She literally said this, which is a good thing, right? I just know for a fact that she is doubting, she wants to try it again but she is afraid it doesn't work out and has to deal with these awful feelings again of a relationship that isn't working out.

 

We've been in the exact same position of breaking up in the past, but we always worked on it and now she thinks it's enough (RIGHT BEFORE I TURN 18 AND WE CAN DO FUN THINGS TOGETHER!). She tells me she wants to work on herself, and doesn't want to commit to a relationship right now, but I know she is doubting. How can I change her mind that a relationship is possible and that it can work out, especially when we can do fun things now!

 

This friday we're going to the woods to walk around a bit and talk about things that happened in the past couple of weeks. She came with the whole idea to come together and talk, not me!

 

Should I ask her where she's so afraid of and why? And then PROMISE her that things will go differently this time around if we come back together? Should I just keep in touch with her, and if she has time do things together to step-by-step get the feelings back? What's a wise decision?

 

Thanks everyone, I abosutely love this forum. It's helping me a lot!♥