Worried after Second Date

[winny]

So just because I messed up one moment during the date and turned her off now I have to give up? Damn. It's like there's so little room for error.

 

For the nth time - You didn't mess up!!

Things like what you described - happens. A cool chick who is into you would have a good laugh over it not make you responsible for that...

[joseb]

Damn guys, I really don't know why but I can't stop thinking about this girl and what I did wrong. I know I sound like such a loser about this but I keep re-running the date back in my head and everything it sucks. I think I made her feel uncomfortable during the date..after lunch we went to a wine bar that was basically empty except for one server. We were sitting on wooden benches and the table was tight (didn't leave much leg space), I made out with her and I think she was worried the person there was watching us and judging someone brought a dog into the place and it kept barking during the make out etc. just the whole vibe I totally ruined..it was sexy at all it was super uncomfortable probably and that sucks. I know that's the reason. It was so unsmooth.

 

I really feel like I need to get it off my chest and apologize to her. But I'm going to spew my thoughts on here first so I don't do something idiotic. I know I should move on but my gut just won't let me for some reason. Here's what I was thinking:

 

1) wait a couple more days, text her on Saturday or Sunday and check in. Try and send a reconnect/somewhat funny/flirty text. see if she responds.

 

2) if she doesn't respond or responds very unenthusiastically I want to be totally honest and upfront and apologize that I made the date awkward tell her that I do really like her and thought we could have made a good match and that I hope we can see each other again. Basically asking for another shot. I may consider sending that apology messAge to her on POF so that it doesn't clog up her phone.

 

I'm embarrassed im this hung up on two stupid dates, but I can't control how I feel about it. It's really bothering me. I guess because she's kind of my type and the type of girl I always kind of wanted to date. Sorry for being so insecure on the message board, but I need a place to vent to.

 

The more you apologised for making the date awkward, the more she will see it as an issue. So forget about it.

 

Actually, forget about her. She doesnt sound interested.

Maybe if you leave her alone she might come back, but I wouldnt bank on it.

 

And you can control how you feel. Get out of your head, stop analysing it to death, cause it's really pointless.

[GemmaUK]

Please don't send her any more texts, don't contact her again.

2,3 and 4 of the list of things she said were all huge hints that she wasn't interested. Text her again and you'll be one of those in No1 of that list too if you aren't there already.

 

Please respect her choice that she doesn't want to see you again and leave it be. Currently you are refusing to listen to her and respect that choice. Leave her be.

You can't force someone to like you.

[Grey40]

Please don't send her any more texts, don't contact her again.

2,3 and 4 of the list of things she said were all huge hints that she wasn't interested. Text her again and you'll be one of those in No1 of that list too if you aren't there already.

 

Please respect her choice that she doesn't want to see you again and leave it be. Currently you are refusing to listen to her and respect that choice. Leave her be.

You can't force someone to like you.

 

All good points. She did like me at first though that's why it stung. So I took that as being my fault that she no longer does. I took it personal and I shouldn't because it's normal and not everyone will like you. I think I have major ego issues. Or as the Beatles said "I once had a girl, or should I say, she once had me?"

[GemmaUK]

All good points. She did like me at first though that's why it stung. So I took that as being my fault that she no longer does. I took it personal and I shouldn't because it's normal and not everyone will like you. I think I have major ego issues. Or as the Beatles said "I once had a girl, or should I say, she once had me?"

 

Agreed.

 

The problem is now though that you seem to want to control the situation to what you want whilst disrespecting her and her choices.

You will soon become the creeper who won't take a hint and won't leave her alone if you continue.

 

Move on, plan a tonne of things to do this weekend and stop thinking about her.

Just as Joseb said you can control your own feelings, what you should never do though is try to control others.

[Gaeta]

Gosh Grey: I swear I see you go through all of the phases of the mourning process, denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance.

 

This trying to reach to her next week is the bargaining phase.

 

You need to go after women that WANT to get to know you. There is NO honor in pursuing a woman that repeatedly rejects you. Even if she comes back to you in a week or 2 it will be only to throw bread crumbs at you.

 

Just make a point of not contacting her and let time go by. In 3 weeks time you won't think of her anymore.

 

It is also not healthy to be this obsessed over a woman you met only twice. You need to do some introspection on this.

[Imajerk17]

I'm late to this thread, but after a quick read-through, I get the gist of it. It gets played out all the time on here.

 

1. Guy and Girl go on date.

 

2. Girl had a good time with guy but isn't really feeling it. It shows in either outright ghosting, or in this case, fading.

 

3. Guy starts spinning wondering what he could have done wrong and tries to concoct a plan to try to fix it (even though that will do nothing but cost Guy some dignity).

 

(When I was younger I used to be in Guy's situation all the time. My younger self could have written this very thread.)

 

Listen, OP, you got to let this one go. Going on a date (first or second) where things seemingly went smoothly but one party just isn't feeling it (despite the other party doing nothing wrong) happen ALL THE TIME. The one solution here is to move on. And for the love of Pete please don't "apologize" to her. You didn't do anything wrong.

 

Meanwhile, notice that about EVERYONE is giving you the same advice. The women who have dated a lot, and the men who have been in your situation and who have learned from their experiences and who have gone on to have success w women and dating.

Edited January 5, 2017 by Imajerk17

[Dis]

Hi Grey!

 

I havent read the whole thread but pls dont blame yourself and try to have tougher skin....this happens to everyone at some point

 

For example, I recently had 3 dates with a guy...things were going ok...then it fizzled out. He started to fade a little so I let him go. It stung a little but no love lost there. No big deal (Thank god we didnt have sex!)

 

Ghosting/fading/everything going wrong = OLD

 

It wasnt you....it just wasnt meant to be

 

Cheer up Grey. Onto bigger and better things!

[PinkPampies]

Gray

 

If you have to overthink every action with someone you're courting and you're worried about this, worried about that, anxious, etc, it should be a strong indicator that she is not right for you!! Jeez it's been 2 dates and you're already like this. It's not a good feeling is it? No, it's not, so stop.

 

When you're dating and you BOTH like each other, it feels good. Not...this. Just move on.

[Grey40]

Thanks again everyone, I really really appreciate you all carefully reading through the thread and posting and replying. It means a lot and it's awesome to have such an experienced community to help with this stuff.

 

I cannot argue with an overwhelming majority. Pretty much everyone here has said to move on and that's what I'm going to do and have already begun to do that. I tend to think a lot of people jump to conclusions most of the time and the easy answer most people give is "move on" and most of the time I'm not sure I generally agree with just giving up so easily on someone you like.

 

However, in this case, I trust the knowledge of everyone on here who has gone through the same thing and I'm glad I didn't go forward and make a fool out of myself by trying to "fix" the situation. Time to move on to better women

Edited January 6, 2017 by Grey40

[Gaeta]

Some of us won't sit around hanging over our phones for some stranger's possible text!:lmao: There are better ways to spend my time.

 

If I sense some guy is playing games or ambivalent, it's immediately on to the next. Why would I waste my time on someone who is unsure of himself or what he wants when it's smooth sailing and thus a far better fit with another guy.

 

If I wanted a new date tonight, I could get one. If I was looking for someone compatible for a relationship, I would probably find that guy and have gone on a couple of dates in the next 2-3 weeks. So why on earth would I waste my time with Mr. Ambivalence who is playing mind games???

 

Yes, those ambivalent guys still call and act all blindsided and surprised that I'm no longer interested and lecture me about what a fantastic date it was. Sure it was!. But what about the last few days of radiosilence or erratic texting...and no scheduled, planned date from them on my calendar? *shrugs* That's their best foot forward??? Why would I stick around to check out their behavior when they settle into complacency and it gets even worse? They're welcome to take their games and uncertainty elsewhere. I'm already on to the next.

 

Angel.eyes: When I said if a woman likes a man she waits for his text I did not imply she sits around while she waits. I implied she will check her phone from time to time. As busy as we can get we all check our phone a couple of times a day and we all check it one last time before going to bed. OP's girl did not miss his text, she saw both text and it was low on her priority list to reply to him.

 

As for the rest of your post about investing your time in someone not putting their best foot forward I agree 100% that is why I have suggested Grey to move on since the beginning of this thread.

[Gaeta]

Thanks again everyone, I really really appreciate you all carefully reading through the thread and posting and replying. It means a lot and it's awesome to have such an experienced community to help with this stuff.

 

I cannot argue with an overwhelming majority. Pretty much everyone here has said to move on and that's what I'm going to do and have already begun to do that. I tend to think a lot of people jump to conclusions most of the time and the easy answer most people give is "move on" and most of the time I'm not sure I generally agree with just giving up so easily on someone you like.

 

However, in this case, I trust the knowledge of everyone on here who has gone through the same thing and I'm glad I didn't go forward and make a fool out of myself by trying to "fix" the situation. Time to move on to better women

 

I was close to 4 years doing online dating before meeting my BF. I had gazillions of micro-relationships where the guy ghosted or faded after 2-3 dates.

 

Often people go on dates and swear they felt a connection while the other person enjoyed themselves but sat on the fence the whole 2-3 dates. It's not because it feels good to you that it's the same for your date.

 

Also, I wish I could send a memo to all the men dating out there. A woman 'feel it' with you or she didn't and it has nothing to do with you wearing your blue shirt instead of the green one, it has nothing to do with the restaurant you picked, has nothing to do with the restaurant seats being uncomfortable.

 

Men seem to think there is a secret code to win women over, there isn't. It's not about something else you should or could have done it's all about her 'feeling it or not'.

 

So stop beating yourself up about the restaurant or the wine or you might have kissed her at the wrong time....it's nothing of that! I promise you Grey she would still have faded away with more leg room at that wine place.

[VeveCakes]

I was close to 4 years doing online dating before meeting my BF. I had gazillions of micro-relationships where the guy ghosted or faded after 2-3 dates.

 

Often people go on dates and swear they felt a connection while the other person enjoyed themselves but sat on the fence the whole 2-3 dates. It's not because it feels good to you that it's the same for your date.

 

Also, I wish I could send a memo to all the men dating out there. A woman 'feel it' with you or she didn't and it has nothing to do with you wearing your blue shirt instead of the green one, it has nothing to do with the restaurant you picked, has nothing to do with the restaurant seats being uncomfortable.

 

Men seem to think there is a secret code to win women over, there isn't. It's not about something else you should or could have done it's all about her 'feeling it or not'.

 

So stop beating yourself up about the restaurant or the wine or you might have kissed her at the wrong time....it's nothing of that! I promise you Grey she would still have faded away with more leg room at that wine place.

 

This could not be more true!

 

Do not text this girl anymore.

 

It's hard getting back out there after a long relationship. You have a lot to learn in the new dating game, but it will get easier! Lots of other women out there you will enjoy and that will want to spend time with you.

[Grey40]

Thanks for the support. Yeah, I mean when I wasn't interested in a woman after a couple of dates, I would ease off texting but I always would tell them, "it was a good couple of dates, and you did nothing wrong, I just didn't think we clicked etc. etc." or something along those lines. So, I'm not used to these girls leaving me hanging.

 

Some just disappear entirely with no explanation (aka Ghost)...Some give you false hope because they still answer text messages and send stuff but then always come up with some excuse not to hang out, and some (though most rare) tell you the actual truth. I have found the ones who are most honest and upfront about "not feeling it" are women who are 26 and older for the most part. Not a single women younger than that has been honest about it with me.

 

I know it's not soley an age thing, but there's definitely a correlation. Younger women don't seem to know what they want, or still play games or hard to get etc. or just go with the flow because they're young, cute and have an INSANE amount of men to choose from who will bow down to date them at any moment. If you're an attractive female under 25, you could probably eat free literally every night and be taken out nonstop if you wanted to. The older women get, they can see through the bullcrap and can pinpoint genuine people easier, and they also don't waste time because they're getting older, all their friends are getting married etc. and the window for women getting married, starting a family etc. is clearly much smaller than for men. Unfortunate but that's how it plays out.

 

I can't complain because I'm noticing that the older I get, the more options I seem to have as well as a male. I've never been able to secure dates or even attract many girls when I was in college or before. Now I find it to be SO much easier. Probably because I look older, more mature and in general am more comfortable with myself and who I am. I'm SO much better now at being confident and being myself when talking to women, and guys gotta realize that's all it really takes, like you said, there's no special formula. So many men worry about the outcome of getting a gf, or having sex or hooking up that they don't actually just relax, be themselves and enjoy the person they're talking to.

 

It's rediculous how much easier it is when you don't focus on the outcome and you just enjoy yourself. This girl was a good learning experience for me. I started to put her on a pedastal and started to act a little out of my comfort zone and I really over-analyzed the whole thing..I was too worried about the Outcome of her continuing to date me instead of just relaxing.

Edited January 6, 2017 by Grey40

[Sooner or Later]

So, you will NOT be contacting her again, right?

 

Grey, I read this entire thread and went back and read your previous threads about these dates with this particular woman. You have to let this go but I can tell you what I think: You came on too strong. The physical/public displays were too much (that second date where she said "What are you doing?" <cringe>). You also said a few times how her body language was "closed". I think this could have been the reason but who knows, really. It could just be as simple as she met someone who was a better match for her at the moment. If a woman really liked you, she would have definitely and comfortably reciprocated and kept up contact with you post-date.

 

She's just not into you. Let it go. Delete her number.

 

As for what you think women want...you need to stop with "I need to act more dominant" (etc) stuff. Women automatically sense false male posturing to hide insecurity and it's a real turn off. There's NOTHING wrong with being nice, comfortable with yourself, confident but not pushy/arrogant, and relaxed in getting to know someone.

 

Sorry and good luck with your future forays into the online dating! DO NOT contact this woman again!

Edited January 6, 2017 by Sooner or Later

[Grey40]

So, you will NOT be contacting her again, right?

 

Grey, I read this entire thread and went back and read your previous threads about these dates with this particular woman. You have to let this go but I can tell you what I think: You came on too strong. The physical/public displays were too much (that second date where she said "What are you doing?" <cringe>). You also said a few times how her body language was "closed". I think this could have been the reason but who knows, really. It could just be as simple as she met someone who was a better match for her at the moment. If a woman really liked you, she would have definitely and comfortably reciprocated and kept up contact with you post-date.

 

She's just not into you. Let it go. Delete her number.

 

As for what you think women want...you need to stop with "I need to act more dominant" (etc) stuff. Women automatically sense false male posturing to hide insecurity and it's a real turn off. There's NOTHING wrong with being nice, comfortable with yourself, confident but not pushy/arrogant, and relaxed in getting to know someone.

 

Sorry and good luck with your future forays into the online dating! DO NOT contact this woman again!

 

Yeah i definitley did too much on the second date physically in public. Too much making out and touching etc. I guess I was afraid she'd lose interest if I didn't show enough. But I definitley went too far I could have just did a little kiss or something Not go full make out. I mean there really wasn't anyone in the place, just a couple of workers but yeah that sucks. It sucks because I wish I could go back in time and redo that interaction and not be as forthright physically. Also sucks that because of one mess up like that she totally got scared off. Girls can't forgive that kind of thing?

 

And no, I don't plan on contacting her again but now I feel like apologizing again for being that way. What's wrong with sayng, " hey I'm sorry I came on to our strong during that last date, I know it was distasteful and I'm not like that, I didn't mean to weird you out or anything. I do like you and I would hate for that incident to stop us from another date"

 

I mean yeah it's lame as hell, but why would not that work? Can't some women accept an apology and give someone another chance?

Edited January 6, 2017 by Grey40

[Gaeta]

Yeah i definitley did too much on the second date physically in public. Too much making out and touching etc. I guess I was afraid she'd lose interest if I didn't show enough. But I definitley went too far I could have just did a little kiss or something Not go full make out. I mean there really wasn't anyone in the place, just a couple of workers but yeah that sucks. It sucks because I wish I could go back in time and redo that interaction and not be as forthright physically. Also sucks that because of one mess up like that she totally got scared off. Girls can't forgive that kind of thing?

 

And no, I don't plan on contacting her again but now I feel like apologizing again for being that way. What's wrong with sayng, " hey I'm sorry I came on to our strong during that last date, I know it was distasteful and I'm not like that, I didn't mean to weird you out or anything. I do like you and I would hate for that incident to stop us from another date"

 

I mean yeah it's lame as hell, but why would not that work? Can't some women accept an apology and give someone another chance?

 

I will be on here as long as necessary to repeat to you you did nothing wrong.

 

You did not scare her off. People do not get scared off, they just lack interest.

 

I have been on date where I did not want the guy to escalate his kissing because I didn't feel it with him. And I have been on dates where I escalated the kissing myself because I was totally into him.

 

If she had been into you this 'detail' would not have bothered her.

 

Grey: You are trying to convince yourself you did something wrong. You didn't. We ALL made little 'faux pas' during dating and those faux pas aren't important and have no incidence when the person is into you.

 

I think you liked this girl so much you didn't realize she wasn't that into you.

[Dis]

Yeah i definitley did too much on the second date physically in public. Too much making out and touching etc. I guess I was afraid she'd lose interest if I didn't show enough. But I definitley went too far I could have just did a little kiss or something Not go full make out. I mean there really wasn't anyone in the place, just a couple of workers but yeah that sucks. It sucks because I wish I could go back in time and redo that interaction and not be as forthright physically. Also sucks that because of one mess up like that she totally got scared off. Girls can't forgive that kind of thing?

 

And no, I don't plan on contacting her again but now I feel like apologizing again for being that way. What's wrong with sayng, " hey I'm sorry I came on to our strong during that last date, I know it was distasteful and I'm not like that, I didn't mean to weird you out or anything. I do like you and I would hate for that incident to stop us from another date"

 

I mean yeah it's lame as hell, but why would not that work? Can't some women accept an apology and give someone another chance?

 

Grey, how many times do we have to tell you it wasnt your fault???

 

I'm just going to be truthful here so you can get another woman's take on this....I kind of like it when guys are forward physically, PDA etc etc. I like all that so if I WAS feeling the guy, I wouldnt be turned off

 

Like other posters told you (think it was winny, Gaeta and some others) nothing you did was going to change the outcome. If she was feeling you, she wouldnt have been turned off by the PDA or anything else

 

Pls give yourself some respect here Grey, you sound like a really good guy, considerate of your date's feelings, proactive in dating, not afraid to show a girl you like her...those are all GREAT qualities in a guy! So stop begging this woman (who is clearly not into you) to give you another chance and go find a woman who appreciates you! You deserve that!

 

From what you said about yourself I'd go on a date with you lol

 

Time to really end this, block her, delete her number and begin again

[Gaeta]

First date:

 

She had a pretty closed stance

The whole night, arms crossed and had trouble keeping eye contact

As the night Progressed I got closer sat next to her and did some light touching, said she smelled good etc. She didn't really reciprocate

Second date:

 

She seemed to keep her body language fairly closed, had her arms crossed at times, and she didn't flirt

 

You liked her so much you failed to read those huge red flags that this woman was on the fence and not sure she liked you and this right from the beginning. In your thread you keep saying she was so into you at first, no she was not. You cannot fix this because there is nothing to fix. She has never been into you. She was just going with the flow and checking if her interest would grow, and it didn't.

[heavenonearth]

 

This particular girl seemed very mature for her age, which is why I gave her a shot. She was attractive and appeared to be very interested in me..she did a lot of background research in my social media and knew a lot of little details that really impressed me. So I was blown away how in literally 24 hours she went from being REALLY interested to being totally opposite.

 

Though she didn't tell me directly what was going on, she left me a lot of subtle hints that I picked up on, which is why I posted here in the first place. During date 2 she said stuff like

"Most guys text the crap out of me and get mad when I don't answer them, you're different"

 

"I'm the kind of person that loses interest really really quickly"

 

"Did you lie about your height on the OLD profile?"

 

"I'd like to hang out again eventually but I'm not sure now that I'm going back to work this week.." (probably the biggest hint)

 

She does not sound mature to me.

[joseb]

What's wrong with sayng, " hey I'm sorry I came on to our strong during that last date, I know it was distasteful and I'm not like that, I didn't mean to weird you out or anything. I do like you and I would hate for that incident to stop us from another date"

 

I mean yeah it's lame as hell, but why would not that work? Can't some women accept an apology and give someone another chance?

 

Please just leave it. You are starting to sound really desperate and even stalkeish at this stage.

 

If she is still a bit interested (and I don't think she is) apologising again will make her even less interested.

 

You need to accept her decision.

[Grey40]

First date:

 

She had a pretty closed stance

The whole night, arms crossed and had trouble keeping eye contact

As the night Progressed I got closer sat next to her and did some light touching, said she smelled good etc. She didn't really reciprocate

Second date:

 

She seemed to keep her body language fairly closed, had her arms crossed at times, and she didn't flirt

 

You liked her so much you failed to read those huge red flags that this woman was on the fence and not sure she liked you and this right from the beginning. In your thread you keep saying she was so into you at first, no she was not. You cannot fix this because there is nothing to fix. She has never been into you. She was just going with the flow and checking if her interest would grow, and it didn't.

 

 

Once again, all great points. And you're right. And I saw and noticed the signs but I justified them. I thought she was acting that way because she was nervous or shy or something, I was refusing to view it as disinterest.

 

The reasoning is because based on our online and texting conversations she seeemed really thrilled and excited to meet me. She kept complimenting me and everything. Even after the first date, she initiated contact Immediately the next day and was estatic that I wanted too see her again so soon. She even has plans with her family and what not and purposely delayed the move to drive 30 min to meet me for lunch. You just wouldn't do that if you weren't that interested. Even when we were making out during date 2...once I stopped she looked flustered and said "I totally forgot where we were just now" haha so I took that as a good sign as well. Maybe it wasn't.

 

So I think she WAS interested after the first date. Clearly not after the second. Maybe you're right though and she just did the second date out of courtesy. Maybe she wasn't Mildly interested after the first date and thought "hmm let me see if the second date if It gets better" and it didn't click for her. Thats definitley possible. And yeah, clearly i liked her a lot. She was the most attractive woman I've ever been On a date with and she also seemed very mature and smart for 22 and so I was wrapped up in the moment and wanted to believe she was feeling the same. I wouldn't accept the fact that somehow she's not into me. Big mistake.

[Grey40]

Grey, how many times do we have to tell you it wasnt your fault???

 

I'm just going to be truthful here so you can get another woman's take on this....I kind of like it when guys are forward physically, PDA etc etc. I like all that so if I WAS feeling the guy, I wouldnt be turned off

 

Like other posters told you (think it was winny, Gaeta and some others) nothing you did was going to change the outcome. If she was feeling you, she wouldnt have been turned off by the PDA or anything else

 

Pls give yourself some respect here Grey, you sound like a really good guy, considerate of your date's feelings, proactive in dating, not afraid to show a girl you like her...those are all GREAT qualities in a guy! So stop begging this woman (who is clearly not into you) to give you another chance and go find a woman who appreciates you! You deserve that!

 

From what you said about yourself I'd go on a date with you lol

 

Time to really end this, block her, delete her number and begin again

 

 

Thanks haha maybe we should arrange a date, I appreciate your response. You're right I have to think that way. It HER loss, she's throwing away an opportunity to date a mature, talented good looking guy, she's really missing out. It's her right and her perogotive, she can do what she wants obviously, hope she regrets her decision.

Edited January 7, 2017 by Grey40

[winny]

Thanks haha maybe we should arrange a date, I appreciate your response. You're right I have to think that way. It HER loss, she's throwing away an opportunity to date a mature, talented good looking guy, she's really missing out. It's her right and her perogotive, she can do what she wants obviously, hope she regrets her decision.

Its nobody's loss frankly... Just 2 dates!!!! Its nothing! Stop behaving like a baby n grow up!!

[Dis]

Thanks haha maybe we should arrange a date, I appreciate your response. You're right I have to think that way. It HER loss, she's throwing away an opportunity to date a mature, talented good looking guy, she's really missing out. It's her right and her perogotive, she can do what she wants obviously, hope she regrets her decision.

 

That's better Grey

 

It took me a long time to learn to value myself, view myself as the prize (as many posters on here say). Its a process but this situation is a good starting point for you

 

I've read this thread front to back now and I'm prettyyyy sure you can do better than this one....lets take a look at this for second...

 

You said this girl was mature despite her saying she likes to be 'chased' by guys and that she loses interest quickly....hmmm? Like winny said, mature women dont play games and dont have attention spans of goldfish.

 

Dont you deserve a woman that will show consistency, as in not ghosting you after 2 dates? A woman that acts like a grown up and doesnt need to be chased in order for you to get her attention? A woman regularly texts you, stays in contact with you, wants to plan dates with you? Dont you deserve to kiss a woman without feeling her pull back and say, 'What are you doing?'? A woman who doesnt leave you hanging, driving yourself crazy, second guessing every...little..detail????

 

I think you do....which is why there is no need to grieve over this one who was truly a lost cause from the get go

 

I get it though, you were super attracted to her...that probably clouded your judgement and thats what is keeping you up at night now. But there are also equally attractive women out there who wont flake on you. Dont let looks/attraction steer your judgement. I'm a 9/10 but I dont flake on guys....just had one flake on me though the one I mentioned earlier but, hey it happens to the best of us

 

So from now on, instead of dissecting what it is you 'think' you did wrong etc etc...focus on the above = what you deserve in a woman and why SHE didnt measure up