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I can't stand his dogs! One of them almost bit me and he's defending the dog.

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Birdies Established Member

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Why are none of the dogs fixed???? That should have been step #1 well before you even had your baby. It's still step #1 now - do this, like, today!

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Mr. Lucky Established Member

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Fixing the dogs is unlikely to make a small apartment with 3 pit bulls, a toddler and a person whom a dog has already challenged into anything but the disaster waiting to happen that it already is.

 

Agreed, what the OP is proposing is a finger in the dike.

 

Slimlady, if your BF had a "creepy" or abusive brother living with you that had acted inappropriately toward your son, would you hesitate to insist on a different living arrangement?

 

Your job as a parent is to protect your child from potential danger. No other consideration even remotely matters on the same level...

 

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VeveCakes Established Member

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[] what you said was the OP needs to deal with what the dogs were doing because the dogs came before she moved in - with HIS child.

 

I professionally work with animals. ANY dog growling and charging at a person is a huge risk - when the person is a toddler, and the dog a big, strong breed many times more responsible for fatal bites than any other, that times 100.

 

I thought it was her child?

 

yes I did say that, but I wasn't referring to the aggressive dog, I was referring to the hair and slobber, dirt etc.

 

[] I have 16 animals right now, have fostered over 15 dogs (including aggressive ones) and have worked with many types and had them my entire life. We all have different experiences. []

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LexiCat29 Established Member

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I thought it was her child?

 

yes I did say that, but I wasn't referring to the aggressive dog, I was referring to the hair and slobber, dirt etc.

 

[] I have 16 animals right now, have fostered over 15 dogs (including aggressive ones) and have worked with many types and had them my entire life. We all have different experiences. []

 

I think it's their child..she said she moved in after she had the baby. If so, daddy needs to show more concern about his son's wellbeing...

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eightytwenty Established Member

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If he breeds them, then he shouldn't be doing it in a apartment. Too many hormones in a tight area. Plus no where for them to run around most likely to burn off that steam.

 

 

Anytime (fixed or not) if a dog shows aggression or dominance to any person in the household something needs to be done. Yes it a pit, and that's what makes me worry about the child more. It's a pit, yes the are known to be the sweetest dogs, but if a pit showed any aggression I wouldn't let that situation happen again. Dog needs to go somewhere but never around the child to where he can get his teeth on him.

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I did say he's not breeding them. Especially not when i live with him. Ihad a dog of my own before i moved in. A pit too, he was the kindest dog ever! Never everrrr would he bark at a human or be aggressive towards people no matter what. Towards the male dogs yes. People just never. My dog and his dog wouldn't get along so my sister took him to live with her he's a service dog now. So i do know a lot about this breed. I do know that i went up to him mb a little mad but i still don't think it is ok for a dog to charge at me like that. For a moment i thought he'd bite me and wouldn't stop. I definitely don't want my son near this dog again. But of course his dad will find any excuse and blame it all on me...

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So he is the father of your son and he's more concerned about his dogs than his child?

 

See, this is where the line is drawn for me. I love animals, but when I have kids, if I have a pet that tries to hurt my child, you'd better believe I'll be finding a new home for that pet ASAP.

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Cuz he doesn't believe that this dog might harm his child ??

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I mean I'm not crazy right? This does sound like a problem !? I don't want the dog near my child. But how do i get him to see that ok he didn't bite us this time, but with how he's been acting it might happen. That it is possible. I also believed that it's not the dog but the owners fault or that the owner is bad. But im on the other side now. I started seeing a lot of more aggression in this dog. And my bf takes them out for long walks and works out with them. Maybe he's being jelous of the baby or something? Anyways he doesn't believe that the dogs will harm his child because when he's home, the dogs act like angels.

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Breeding or not, in heat or not, three dogs in an apartment?

 

Are the poor things getting enough exercise to burn off their excess energy? Get them all fixed, exercise them properly, and they'll sleep through the night instead of humping.

 

Sadly, late neutering doesn't always eliminate aggression, and you need to take a class to learn how to be alpha.

 

If you can't afford to move to a place with proper room for the dogs, it sounds as if one or two need to go. I'm surprised you were even allowed to rent an apartment with three big dogs. :confused:

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eightytwenty Established Member

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I mean I'm not crazy right? This does sound like a problem !? I don't want the dog near my child. But how do i get him to see that ok he didn't bite us this time, but with how he's been acting it might happen. That it is possible. I also believed that it's not the dog but the owners fault or that the owner is bad. But im on the other side now. I started seeing a lot of more aggression in this dog. And my bf takes them out for long walks and works out with them. Maybe he's being jelous of the baby or something? Anyways he doesn't believe that the dogs will harm his child because when he's home, the dogs act like angels.

 

 

 

No you aren't crazy, and yes its a problem... I wouldn't handle the bf dismissing me when it comes to a dog biting me or my child when the dog has made it aware that he isn't scared of you.

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elaine567 Established Member

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I also believed that it's not the dog but the owners fault or that the owner is bad. But im on the other side now. I started seeing a lot of more aggression in this dog.

 

Maybe, but if the dog is always an angel with your bf, then it IS your fault in that you cannot control the dog.

If the dog was inherently aggressive then he would be charging at your bf too.

The fact he isn't, means that you are in fact the "bad" owner.

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eightytwenty Established Member

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Maybe, but if the dog is always an angel with your bf, then it IS your fault in that you cannot control the dog.

If the dog was inherently aggressive then he would be charging at your bf too.

The fact he isn't, means that you are in fact the "bad" owner.

Wrong. The bf is the their alpha so no they aren't going to mess with him unless they want that to change.

 

 

She came in when the dogs were grown and already had a "pack" established. They are testing her and the child.

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elaine567 Established Member

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They are testing her and the child.

 

Yes, they are, but she is not up to the challenge here. She is not capable of controlling them and that dog knows it.

He was pumped up with the female on heat and the OP pushed his buttons by being angry and upset with him. He didn't like that so charged at her to get her to back down.

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eightytwenty Established Member

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Yes, they are, but she is not up to the challenge here. She is not capable of controlling them and that dog knows it.

He was pumped up with the female on heat and the OP pushed his buttons by being angry and upset with him. He didn't like that so charged at her to get her to back down.

I fully agree!! But I don't see where its her fault. Not everyone is capable or really wanting to control a dog.

 

The bf needs to decide what matters more to him in the terms of safety. Because the dog knows her number now.

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The dogs definitely don't see me as their owner, i was extremely tired and annoyed from all the licking sounds and did go up to the dog mad. my dog (the one that lives with my sis) would have never charged at me but bc this dog was already fully grown when i moved in, and knows I'm not his owner I'm not their alpha or whatever, he did what he did. I'm a first time mom and i am overprotective of my son. He's dad said he's bringing the female dog back to his brother today. But to me that's just a temporary solution. I'm not working right now so i asked my mom to send some money for us so we can go stay somewhere until i feel its safe ?

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NuevoYorko Established Member

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I thought it was her child?

 

their child.

 

yes I did say that, but I wasn't referring to the aggressive dog, I was referring to the hair and slobber, dirt etc.
I didn't bother addressing her dislike of slobber and hair once she described dog aggression towards her and the toddler.

 

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eightytwenty Established Member

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The dogs definitely don't see me as their owner, i was extremely tired and annoyed from all the licking sounds and did go up to the dog mad. my dog (the one that lives with my sis) would have never charged at me but bc this dog was already fully grown when i moved in, and knows I'm not his owner I'm not their alpha or whatever, he did what he did. I'm a first time mom and i am overprotective of my son. He's dad said he's bringing the female dog back to his brother today. But to me that's just a temporary solution. I'm not working right now so i asked my mom to send some money for us so we can go stay somewhere until i feel its safe ?

 

I'm very sorry but as a new mom also I would do the same

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NuevoYorko Established Member

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Cuz he doesn't believe that this dog might harm his child ??
Did you look at the link I posted with the dog bite fatality statistics? Many of these dogs were beloved family pets who NEVER showed signs of aggression before, at least not that were recognized.

 

This dog has given very clear warnings.

 

I am not a hater of pit bulls. They have been bred extremely irresponsibly and way too much. The people doing all of these breedings either don't realize that they may be breeding two dogs that both have a propensity for aggression, or, they are breeding for "badass" pit bulls and are ignorantly promoting aggressive traits.

 

Pit bulls are terriers. Once their prey drive or rage is triggered, they are unlikely to back down or give up. Pit bulls also have tremendous strength and weight to back this all up. Your kid and you are in an unsafe environment and your boyfriend is being an irresponsible parent. You are too if you keep your child there.

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BettyDraper Established Member

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I love dogs, but kids are more important. Dogs that show aggression towards their owners are not properly trained and are potentially dangerous. And having a female in heat nearby is only going to increase the aggression. If the dog charged your child, it's time to take your child and go.

 

I agree with Veve that the dogs were there first and it would be unfair to ask him to get rid of them, and he probably would agree to it anyway..but it's also unfair of him not to properly care for them, and that includes intensive training and spaying/neutering.

 

This. Children are more important than pets and animals should always be trained as well as neutered.

 

I hate to see large dogs or several dogs in apartments. Dog owners who want more than one pet would do better to live in a house with a yard.

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BettyDraper Established Member

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The dog threatened to bite her AND their child. If you and this man produced a child whom one of the dogs threatened to bite, he'd need to "deal with it or don't deal with you"?

 

She needs to "relax and deal" with dog aggression towards herself and their kid or move out? Wow.

 

I don't even have children and I agree with the OP. :rolleyes:

On what planet should a dog's comfort come before the safety of a child?

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elaine567 Established Member

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The dogs definitely don't see me as their owner, i was extremely tired and annoyed from all the licking sounds and did go up to the dog mad. my dog (the one that lives with my sis) would have never charged at me but bc this dog was already fully grown when i moved in, and knows I'm not his owner I'm not their alpha or whatever, he did what he did. I'm a first time mom and i am overprotective of my son. He's dad said he's bringing the female dog back to his brother today. But to me that's just a temporary solution. I'm not working right now so i asked my mom to send some money for us so we can go stay somewhere until i feel its safe ?

 

I think taking the female dog away is a good move and your bf really needs to now make neutering plans and you now need to go to a dog trainer to improve your dog handling skills. I guess since the child was born you have gone down in the pecking order, tired and anxious as a new mom you are no longer giving off a confident vibe and the dogs will sense that.

I am glad your mother can send you some money as I feel if your bf is not really going to take this seriously, then this relationship may not have a future. The fact you cannot now stand his dogs, even before this incident may signify deeper problems in this relationship. The dog incident may just be the last straw

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NuevoYorko Established Member

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If the dog was inherently aggressive then he would be charging at your bf too.

The fact he isn't, means that you are in fact the "bad" owner.

That isn't true. There are many reasons an aggressive dog gets triggered.

 

The dog may not respect or take the OP seriously; that doesn't mean she's a "bad" owner. Under the circumstances, it means that she and the kid are not necessarily safe with this dog.

 

I'm not even going into the pack aspect, but if a dog attacks and there are other dogs in close quarters, they often join. Also if dogs fight amongst themselves and a human gets involved or is even nearby, the fighting dogs may turn on the person; it's called displaced aggression and it happens frequently.

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elaine567 Established Member

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Yes dogs can get triggered but an owner who is in control can defuse the situation, distract the dog, calm it down, get it back under control.

The OP isn't in that place, she doesn't have the skill to do that.

This dog is not an "out of control" aggressive dog, it is perfectly well behaved under the guidance of her bf.

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I mean I'm not crazy right? This does sound like a problem !? I don't want the dog near my child. But how do i get him to see that ok he didn't bite us this time, but with how he's been acting it might happen. That it is possible. I also believed that it's not the dog but the owners fault or that the owner is bad. But im on the other side now. I started seeing a lot of more aggression in this dog. And my bf takes them out for long walks and works out with them. Maybe he's being jelous of the baby or something? Anyways he doesn't believe that the dogs will harm his child because when he's home, the dogs act like angels.

 

Nanny cam.

 

Get some video evidence if you're not willing to leave now.

 

A woman in England had two dogs attack her kids. She was helping the toddler and the dog ripped the infant out of her arms and killed him. Don't think just because you are with your child that something like this can't happen.

 

In the England case the dog was raised from a puppy I believe and the owner was a responsible police woman. But same thing. The victims were her nephews and sister who had been living there just a few months.

 

It doesn't matter the breed or if they're good with the owner. Some can be territorial and strike without warning

 

 

You already had two warnings

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