misspearl Posted November 24, 2016 Posted November 24, 2016 So my boyfriend has never given his second mobile number (I am aware that he has it and has used it around me, so its not a secret or anything), anyways that's where he actually uses whats-app on. I have told him to add me since I only have his other mobile which is the non smartphone (Burner how some people call it) where he has family members me and I don't know who else, but every time I mention it he seems reluctant or the topic changes right away (Poof!!) and I stay with the same doubt over and over and over again. :lmao: The point is, that 1 year and a half have passed by and I still don't have his second mobile number (which happens to be a smartphone, cause the mobile number I have is from a small non smart phone aka' the burner how people call it'') for us to communicate on whats-app, Which I believe is pretty normal for boyfriend and girlfriend now a days right. What in the world can this 37 year old men be hiding from me, Btw I am 28 years old, if he has not given me his second mobile number in which he actively uses Whatsapp on, I don't get it, and even if he had something to hide and does not want me to know , how in the world would I figure it out through his other mobile number and Whatsapp, its impossible so what is he so afraid of, I don't understand Really. :( 1
NoMoreJerks Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 Not good. Compartmentalization going on there... at the very least.... I don't see why he would keep you off his second mobile, unless that mobile is only for work use... which doesn't seem to be the case as he has whatsapp on it... need to get to the bottom of this , IMO, if you don't want to be taken on a ride. But that's just me. 4
Grey40 Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 Yeah, it's not good he's avoiding the question altogether and being hesitant. He's either hiding something or embarrassed by something. There are men who use stuff like WhatsApp to have online sex chats similar to having phone sex with a girl or something. It's like a way to have an extra-affair without actually doing it or feeling guilty or anything. A lot of men will justify that as "not cheating" because it's no different than porn etc. Not saying that's what he's using it for, but just giving a potential example of what it could be. It's clearly something you're going to be mad about, otherwise he wouldn't be keeping it from you. 2
Shanex Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 Me thinks that your boyfriend may be secretly chatting with the ladies on whatsapp behind your back. Did that cross your mind? Have an upfront conversation with him, why does he need a second mobile? What is he hiding from you ? Good luck. 3
Satu Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) People don't hide innocent and harmless things. Red flag. Take care. Edited November 25, 2016 by Satu 4
Poe77 Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 Why the heck would anyone have 2 cell phones? from my experiences only drug dealers do this kinda thing? what the heck is a "burner"? it all sounds kinda shady OP.. 3
elaine567 Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 Why the heck would anyone have 2 cell phones? from my experiences only drug dealers do this kinda thing? what the heck is a "burner"? it all sounds kinda shady OP.. A burner is often a cheap phone that is untraceable, ie no monthly contract and is used often by cheaters. Sounds like he is using his "burner" to talk to the OP, which is a bit worrying for her. 2
basil67 Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 Why the heck would anyone have 2 cell phones? from my experiences only drug dealers do this kinda thing? what the heck is a "burner"? it all sounds kinda shady OP.. Many people have two phones. My hubby is an IT professional and has one for work and one for home - that way he can turn off the work calls when he's on a weekend or holidays. However, not giving a second number to your partner is the shady bit. 2
elaine567 Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 Why the heck would anyone have 2 cell phones? from my experiences only drug dealers do this kinda thing? what the heck is a "burner"? it all sounds kinda shady OP.. Unless it is a work phone then I think it probably signifies he is up to no good in some way, if it is not cheating, it could be something criminal or something he wants to hide from the OP - porn, gambling, drugs, dodgy deals, maybe even another life i.e. wife (and kids) elsewhere... 2
Author misspearl Posted November 25, 2016 Author Posted November 25, 2016 I know right!! I have also have my doubts on his sexuality, I think in my mind if he can possibly be bisexual, even though he has never said anything, and obviously he wont! but to me its weird because with the phone number itself I cannot know whether he is cheating or not ,neither with whatsapp, so why such a hassle not wanting to give it, I have to admit its been a long time since I have asked him, Maybe I should try again and if not well its over, hes too comfortable with the fact that maybe I have not asked him again and maybe he will keep doing whatever he is doing, if I don't take action and a stop right away!! 1
Author misspearl Posted November 25, 2016 Author Posted November 25, 2016 Actually he is using the burner with me!! and not the smartphone which is the one that I dont have the number of!! but he uses the burner with his mother,brothers,sisters as well!! so i'm confused really
Mumbles Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 Actually he is using the burner with me!! and not the smartphone which is the one that I dont have the number of!! but he uses the burner with his mother,brothers,sisters as well!! so i'm confused really Yikes! But honestly, 'burner' doesn't refer to the value in dollar terms of the phone. I have a burner and its a mid range smart phone. 'Burner' refers to the fact that its probably not on a plan, its probably pre-paid, and can be disposed of in an instant. If circumstances warrant, you'll put a hammer to the burner phone and throw it away, number and all. If its truly a burner phone and not simply a work phone, then something is definitely up. He's involved with a circle of colleagues or clients or something that is quite separate from his 'normal' life. 1
Author misspearl Posted November 25, 2016 Author Posted November 25, 2016 I know right! but its a small non smartphone mobile, but he does have a plan with it as far as I know, the smartphone is the one that supposedly does not have an active line or plan, he just pays few bucks to have the number active(and not have the line cut) and be able to still receive calls, that's what he told me I really don't understand the subject, and sound confusing!! LOL, I was thinking if perhaps he has a double life and is bisexual. that's just a supposition, I don't really know.
Sunkissedpatio Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 Yup definitely NOT good! Something's up. Why do you think he might be bi? Did he always have the two phones or did he get it at some point while the relationship was underway?
Mumbles Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 I'd have to say the age old cliche fits here: Don't ask questions you don't want answers to. Sounds awful I know, but think long before you pursue this further. Its almost a certainty that you won't enjoy whatever you find on this phone if you happen to get access to it. I must admit its a little puzzling that he openly uses the phone in front of you - this isn't usual practise for someone using a burner. I mean, of course, there are plausible benign reasons he may keep this phone and the phone number active - it might be one he has contact old old friends with for a long long time and he doesn't want to lose contact with them by losing the number (for example) - but really, this would be a long shot surely? It doesn't take much effort to let old friends/colleagues know that your number has changed. It could be something mostly harmless, like a porn phone, or perhaps he swaps naughty pictures with others or something along those lines??? My guess is that its almost certain to be an activity that he doesn't want to muddle with his 'real' life. People with SO's on the side, or second families, or drug involvement, or other fringe activities are prime candidates for such phones, but they'd normally not pull it out in front of anyone in their real/normal life. I assume he's got a screen lock on it? I mean, you've known the guy for 1.5 years ... in that time surely you've had at least a couple of instances where the phone was left on a benchtop somewhere or otherwise has become available to you ... but you can't access the content right?
Holeshotz Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 Did his work give him the smartphone? Do they pay the bill? Many companies provide smartphones to employees that all share pooled data and voice. If yes then you probably have nothing to worry about. But...if smartphone is a personal device / plan..the dude is straight up hiding something from you..either way tell him How you feel and make him show you one way or the other
Sunkissedpatio Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 Ya but even if it's a work phone, paid for by work, why not give his girlfriend the number? Or add her on Whatsapp on there? That's sketch. 1
l8estnews Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 If this happens to me, I will dump him. I have no time for sketchy drama. 1
Fruitee Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 Okay so you can only make regular calls to his burner phone? Is there time periods when he dissapears? Phone is off? He is not answering his phone? He probably is living double life. He has two phones to keep his life separately. That is the only explanation. I have two phones. I use other one for work. Its listed number. I only accept work calls for that. All my dates and friends etc have my private number which i use daily to communicate with them. If thats not the case with this dude then he is up to no good. He wants to keep you at arms length. Dump him. 1
ExpatInItaly Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 His What's App profile picture is probably of him and his real girlfriend. OP, how much time do you spend at his place? 3
phineas Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 Why the heck would anyone have 2 cell phones? from my experiences only drug dealers do this kinda thing? what the heck is a "burner"? it all sounds kinda shady OP.. drug dealers, spy's, and possibly salesman/lawyers who don't want clients to bother them on personal time.
Author misspearl Posted November 25, 2016 Author Posted November 25, 2016 @mumbles, he has a cover, which looks like a book, it closes, A lot of people use that, but I am not aware of have seen a lock screen. maybe he does i don't know,
Author misspearl Posted November 25, 2016 Author Posted November 25, 2016 He got the smartphone when we were already in the relationship, but before the smartphone he already had a second phone, but it was ''not a smartphone and then at the beginning of 2015 he bought the smartphone. I asked him 2 times to remember to give me the number so we can talk in Whatsapp and blhab lhab blah, he always beat around the bush and never gave it to me, so I stopped insisting.
elaine567 Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 @mumbles, he has a cover, which looks like a book, it closes, A lot of people use that, but I am not aware of have seen a lock screen. maybe he does i don't know, Is he very protective of that phone? i.e. he always has it with him or close by, Does he ever leave it lying around? Does he close it up frequently or stop phone/text conversations dead when you enter the room? 1
Author misspearl Posted November 25, 2016 Author Posted November 25, 2016 Hey its not for work, more of an university type of phone, to contact peers form university,classmates,medical audios, stuff like that,, that,s what he said to me one time I asked him.but still im his gf!
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