For all the dudes online who are just looking for nookie

October 9, 2016

Paid sites should weed out a lot of losers, yes. But then, maybe the biggest creep of them all I met on Match. He had a GF and was still dating people on Match. And lying about everything. He lied about where he lived, about his job.

I then thought, okay, let's try eharmony. But no one is on eharmony anymore, because there are all these free sites that are more popular. In a year I think that site gave me like 5 dates. They'd send me one match per week. ONE! So you're paying a lot of money to give up all personal preference about who you want to go out with.

AMJ, you are in CA, right?

Have you tried "It's Just Lunch"? You can meet for drinks or dinner too if you both prefer.

My gf met tons of guys (they screen for losers) so it's a higher caliber of men you are meeting.

She met her bf that way and they got married a few months ago!

October 9, 2016

Likewise, when approached by men in public, I've experienced all sorts of situations. Men who are polite and respectful, and are appealing in some way, so they get my attention. Men who are rude, act like I should be grateful that they even approached me. Men who do straight up make sexual comments about my body or just dirty suggestive comments in general. Nice and shy men who screw up their own effort to talk to me. I want to say I've seen it all, but I'm sure someone will come along and surprise me with a whole new approach. I will say this much, as the gender assigned to the burden of pursuing women, lots of you have learned to be creative. Its safe to say women are pretty simple when it comes to attracting someone, we have very few plays in our playbook.

This is what confuses me though. You get approached all the time it sounds like, often quite respectfully, yet you still can't seem to find a decent guy to date? Not a one?

Doesn't that strike you as bizarre too?

You got some great suggestions already for OLD--write a more thought-out profile, go for guys who put more thought into *their* profiles and emails. But looking beyond OLD, maybe give the guys who approach you nicely more of a chance. The fella who trips over his words, probably really worked up the courage to go talk to you. Give him a bit of a chance--he might be the type of guy who would be good for you.

Edited October 9, 2016 by Imajerk17

October 9, 2016

Guys approach you and right off the bat make lewd and sexual comments about you body?

WTF!

Where do you live, Dog Patch, CA? Lol

Good god. smh

Edited October 9, 2016 by katiegrl

October 9, 2016

There's no innuendo in my example. It went down like this:

him-"Hi there, nice to meet you, what are you up to this weekend?"
me- explained weekend plans
him-I will be honest, I'm not looking for anything serious. So if you are okay with that.
me- why not?
him- I work too much and do not have the time and mental patience for it. Don't get me wrong, you are very attractive, I just don't have the time for more.
me- i told him his priorities are backwards and asked "what DO you want to do?
him- lol. if you want to grab dinner and then get physical after, if you're feeling it, who knows what might happen. If we like each other, who knows?What do you think? I promise I am not bad to talk to and not bad in bed.
me- just being asked out that way in itself is a huge turnoff. sorry.

There's no gray area, he wants to have sex and that's about all.

Although, now that I turned him down he's backstopping and saying that he'd be open to a relationship at some point.

I was reading over the earlier parts of the thread I missed and I saw this and please take this in the spirit it is intended because it sounds like you genuinely want to find a good guy but you also need to adjust your actions a little in order for that to happen.

Firstly, when the guy said to you "not looking for anything serious" you should have bowed out of the conversation with "cool, good luck and hope you find what you are looking for ;)" full STOP.

It doesn't matter why he is not looking for something serious, at that point you did the classic thing women tend to do when they see the "bad boy challenge" which is to take it on by trying to talk a guy out of his decision. Don't engage next time. He told you what he wants, it's not at ALL what you want, nothing more to discuss.

Ok, but you proceeded.

Then you tell him that "his needs are out of whack." Again, not your place to decided or school him on what needs he should have. Those are his needs, not yours, they don't match with yours so he's not the guy for you. Later!

Then after he explains in detail why he only wants to hook up you ask him point blank "so what do you want to do?" Do you realize that after all the dialogue that has happened up until that point, you are showing him you are somewhat intrigued by his plan simply by sticking around and discussing things?

And then you flat out put the ball in his court by asking him what do you want to do? You actually invited him to spell out what he thinks getting together with you would look like, and then when the guy paints the sordid picture you took offence.

Do you see how your actions contributed to this picture picture? I am not saying you have brought on every rude encounter with a guy but in this dialogue, this is precisely what the guys have been saying about "the women who say they don't want hook-ups are the ones they actually end up convincing to do exactly that" From the guy's perspective above, the mere fact that you are sticking around to challenge him on all that also becomes a challenge for him to see if he can convince you otherwise.

Just something to think about...

October 9, 2016

I asked my coworker about this topic since he used to "get around" before his second marriage. He used OLD almost exclusively for sex. According to him, he would chat with women and roughly 1 in 20 would be interested in meeting up for sex. He's an exception, of course. While I've had my share of early sex, I imagine my success ratio with this approach would be somewhere in the 1 in 500+ range.

October 9, 2016

On ShinningOne's note gonna share a really shocking story I heard on the last date I went on, the guy was sharing horror stories from his OLD experience:

He went out with a woman and they were having drinks and having decent banter and laughter and out of the blue (and not in context with what they were talking about) she leans over to him and says, "oh and by the my tubes are tied so you could totally cum inside me"

This is the kind of thing men are also dealing with. I keep hearing of all these crazy women on OLD, I feel like the odds are stacked WAY in my favour since in comparison I'm rather boring.

October 9, 2016

AMJ, you are in CA, right?

Have you tried "It's Just Lunch"? You can meet for drinks or dinner too if you both prefer.

My gf met tons of guys (they screen for losers) so it's a higher caliber of men you are meeting.

She met her bf that way and they got married a few months ago!

Never tried that one. I have tried lots of the other ones though. Tinder was by far the worst. While the stuff I'm describing here happens sometimes or often on other sites, it literally was every single interaction I had on Tinder. So that didn't last long. But I know two couples who are getting married who met on Tinder. So, there is that.

October 9, 2016

Guys approach you and right off the bat make lewd and sexual comments about you body?

WTF!

Where do you live, Dog Patch, CA? Lol

Good god. smh

It is strange to me, that people can't believe this happens to women often. I've lived lots of places in CA and elsewhere. The only way I can guarantee that this won't happen to me, is by dressing extremely boring and conservative. Which means this rarely happens at work, but it's still totally happened to me at work plenty of times too.

October 9, 2016

This is what confuses me though. You get approached all the time it sounds like, often quite respectfully, yet you still can't seem to find a decent guy to date? Not a one?

Doesn't that strike you as bizarre too?

You got some great suggestions already for OLD--write a more thought-out profile, go for guys who put more thought into *their* profiles and emails. But looking beyond OLD, maybe give the guys who approach you nicely more of a chance. The fella who trips over his words, probably really worked up the courage to go talk to you. Give him a bit of a chance--he might be the type of guy who would be good for you.

I know. You're right. I can guess what I do to contribute to that, but that's a whole other issue.

October 9, 2016

I was reading over the earlier parts of the thread I missed and I saw this and please take this in the spirit it is intended because it sounds like you genuinely want to find a good guy but you also need to adjust your actions a little in order for that to happen.

Firstly, when the guy said to you "not looking for anything serious" you should have bowed out of the conversation with "cool, good luck and hope you find what you are looking for ;)" full STOP.

It doesn't matter why he is not looking for something serious, at that point you did the classic thing women tend to do when they see the "bad boy challenge" which is to take it on by trying to talk a guy out of his decision. Don't engage next time. He told you what he wants, it's not at ALL what you want, nothing more to discuss.

Ok, but you proceeded.

Then you tell him that "his needs are out of whack." Again, not your place to decided or school him on what needs he should have. Those are his needs, not yours, they don't match with yours so he's not the guy for you. Later!

Then after he explains in detail why he only wants to hook up you ask him point blank "so what do you want to do?" Do you realize that after all the dialogue that has happened up until that point, you are showing him you are somewhat intrigued by his plan simply by sticking around and discussing things?

And then you flat out put the ball in his court by asking him what do you want to do? You actually invited him to spell out what he thinks getting together with you would look like, and then when the guy paints the sordid picture you took offence.

Do you see how your actions contributed to this picture picture? I am not saying you have brought on every rude encounter with a guy but in this dialogue, this is precisely what the guys have been saying about "the women who say they don't want hook-ups are the ones they actually end up convincing to do exactly that" From the guy's perspective above, the mere fact that you are sticking around to challenge him on all that also becomes a challenge for him to see if he can convince you otherwise.

Just something to think about...

This is all true, point taken.

In this case, I was egging him on because I was irritated. He'd already lost any real chance at meeting me in person anyway, so I wanted to analyze because, I'm tired of this happening.

I mean I picked him specifically because he looked like a nice boring decent guy who'd never in a million years say something like that to me.

But also- as a few people on here mentioned, saying "I'm not looking for anything serious" could mean a bunch of different things to different people. So, yeah, I kind of do think a person needs to spell that out. And I wanted to know why because I genuinely want to know why men in their mid 30s or older feel that way. A few guys have responded to that question on here but I still don't really understand. I understood casual relationships in college. Life was so chaotic back then and all of us were running in a million different directions.

My comment about his priorities being backwards was meant to be a joke, and he took it that way. Putting your career before your personal life is a personal decision, I'd say the same thing to anyone. And I used to have a job that completely destroyed my personal life so I speak from experience, that's no way to live. Not that this matters but he didn't have a traditionally demanding job anyway so that seemed like a BS excuse.

When I say- what DO you want, that's my way of trying to understand what a casual relationship means to this person. What I usually hear from men is that they want all of the benefits of a relationship but none of the responsibilities. Or obligations. So they want to hang out, date, do fun things, spend time together, including sex, and they want to do all these things with someone they are attracted to, enjoy spending time with, etc. Which means it's not a meaningless empty relationship. And what they don't want is being obligated to go to my nana's 87th birthday or my nephew's 2nd birthday, or help me take my car to get the oil changed or whatever.

And these types of guys are not up for a challenge whatsoever. Seriously. They ask for what they want, they ask lots of women. Some say yes, others say no. This guy was not interested in winning me over, nor are any other guys I've met in OLD who say they just want something casual. Actually most men in OLD aren't up for a challenge period. There is very little pursuit happening. Men I meet in person first always pursue more.

October 9, 2016

My comment about his priorities being backwards was meant to be a joke, and he took it that way. Putting your career before your personal life is a personal decision, I'd say the same thing to anyone. And I used to have a job that completely destroyed my personal life so I speak from experience, that's no way to live. Not that this matters but he didn't have a traditionally demanding job anyway so that seemed like a BS excuse.

Exactly, because "too busy with work to have a relationship" is absolute bullsht. That excuse has been around in dating since before the internet was invented. How do people ease out of a dating scenario when they see no future with someone? They become "too busy with work" The classic lie that "could just be true" It isn't. When you fall for someone or are infatuated there is no work that is keeping you from being with them, none! Everything is out the window. Falling for someone is equal to temporary insanity so...

He's not too busy with work, he simply doesn't want a relationship. It's what he told you from the get-go. Again, doesn't matter what his reason is, that's his choice and having to make up nonsense to appease women who wonder why he doesn't have time for a relationship is a product of having to put "some effort" into coaxing a girl to agree to a NSA sex set-up.

It's all part of the "pitch"

October 9, 2016

On ShinningOne's note gonna share a really shocking story I heard on the last date I went on, the guy was sharing horror stories from his OLD experience:

He went out with a woman and they were having drinks and having decent banter and laughter and out of the blue (and not in context with what they were talking about) she leans over to him and says, "oh and by the my tubes are tied so you could totally cum inside me"

That's a pretty tame story. I expected more after the word "shocking".

October 9, 2016

That's a pretty tame story. I expected more after the word "shocking".

See, I told you I was boring.

October 9, 2016

It is strange to me, that people can't believe this happens to women often. I've lived lots of places in CA and elsewhere.

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***The only way I can guarantee that this won't happen to me, is by dressing extremely boring and conservative.

That is simply not true AMJ.

I wear skinny low rise jeans with cute fitted tee's, pretty summery dresses that totally "show off" my body, and this doesn't happen.

I have guys approaching saying "hey beautiful" and the like, quite often in fact.

In fact dated a guy for awhile who approached me on street saying just that.. while he was running one morning.

Ended up seeing him about a week later at a club! And he asked me out.

Do I wear tops where my boobs are hanging out? No. (Not suggesting you do either).

The worst I get are guys who make inappropriate comments or get 'grabby' sometimes at clubs (when drunk... grrr). but not when approaching on street or out and about.

I carry myself with confidence and class. (Not suggesting you don't).

You must have heard the saying "we 'attract' who we 'are'." I think that is true to a certain extent.

Anyway, I am off this thread now... good luck.

Edited October 9, 2016 by katiegrl

October 9, 2016

I'm on several OLD sites - some considered hook up sites but ideally I'm looking for a relationship vs just sex. Today you have to branch out and hope for the best. OLD is a freakin circus. Even on the hookup sites almost every woman starts her profile with "not looking for a hookup" - well what the F are you doing on here then???

Ive logged countless hours and have spent way too much money on lousy dates but I have also had a lot of success and have of plenty wild stories.

I can tell you that OLD has only gotten worse over the years. Its A means to meet women but you really have to have a thick skin.

October 9, 2016

It is strange to me, that people can't believe this happens to women often. I've lived lots of places in CA and elsewhere. The only way I can guarantee that this won't happen to me, is by dressing extremely boring and conservative. Which means this rarely happens at work, but it's still totally happened to me at work plenty of times too.

I dunno AMJ what kinda place you are living, but all that sounds really odd. I have never in my life even said anything as "rude" as hey beautiful to some random girl. And I used to approach girls a lot.

I know a lot of single guys but none of them do that kind of stuff.

Maybe it has something to do with what you wear, but even so I'm amazed it's as bad as that.

And also all the OLD lewd stuff..I mean I do hear stories but you seem to get a ridiculously high percentage of them.

What kind of pics have you on your profile?

You say tinder was worse..but on tinder the guy can only message you if you like them. What was your selection criteria for swiping right? Because if you were just basing it on a look, maybe you are just naturally attracted to douchebags.

October 9, 2016

And what they don't want is being obligated to go to my nana's 87th birthday or my nephew's 2nd birthday, or help me take my car to get the oil changed or whatever.

And these types of guys are not up for a challenge whatsoever. [...] This guy was not interested in winning me over, nor are any other guys I've met in OLD who say they just want something casual. Actually most men in OLD aren't up for a challenge period. There is very little pursuit happening. Men I meet in person first always pursue more.

This notion that a pursuit is supposed to ensue, and that guys are somehow deficient because you can't get them to is both intriguing and amusing. I think you maintain a rigid paradigm with regard to how the whole dance is supposed unfold.

First, pursue what? The privilege of attending nana's 87th b-day? Let me give you a hint... if a guy pursues, it ain't going to be about access to anything attached to your nana. It's precisely the thing you're being so critical of them for wanting in the first place!

I don't get why you feel so entitled to be pursued, or why you see it as litmus test of your own value... as if a guy is supposed to fall in love with you at first sight be laser focused while you flit around with ambivalence, setting up competitions, etc.? This fairy-tale, Disney fare is just not realistic in real life. Why not focus on authentic interactions, reciprocity and cooperation? What are you doing to foster the kind of connection and interaction that would make them respect you and desire a relationship?

I think men who know their value don't need to pursue, and find it distasteful to have to beg a woman for her attention. If they have options they just move along and focus their energy where it's reciprocated.

October 9, 2016

I dunno AMJ what kinda place you are living, but all that sounds really odd. I have never in my life even said anything as "rude" as hey beautiful to some random girl. And I used to approach girls a lot.
I know a lot of single guys but none of them do that kind of stuff.

Maybe it has something to do with what you wear, but even so I'm amazed it's as bad as that.

And also all the OLD lewd stuff..I mean I do hear stories but you seem to get a ridiculously high percentage of them.

What kind of pics have you on your profile?

You say tinder was worse..but on tinder the guy can only message you if you like them. What was your selection criteria for swiping right? Because if you were just basing it on a look, maybe you are just naturally attracted to douchebags.

Just came back to say I don't mind a man saying "hey beautiful" when walking by. Don't think that is rude at all.. yes it's bold, but it kinda makes my day sometimes...

No man ever got my number that way though.

The sexual stuff AMJ alluded to when she is approached?

About her boobs and body? YES! that is rude, and agree with you joseb.. very very odd.

However, as I mentioned before, we 'attract' who we 'are'.

Our vibe, the energy we project.

We are often unaware how we come across and are perceived by others.

It's good to be cognizant of that, especially in dating, and not blame it all on men are d-bags (even if/when they are). Be aware of your own vibe and energy.

Just let the comments roll off and move on. Focus on guys who are respectful (same advice to guys).

Edited October 9, 2016 by katiegrl

October 9, 2016

I dunno AMJ what kinda place you are living, but all that sounds really odd. I have never in my life even said anything as "rude" as hey beautiful to some random girl. And I used to approach girls a lot.
I know a lot of single guys but none of them do that kind of stuff.

Because you are a nice guy! And your friends are probably nice guys. I know not all men are skeezeballs.

Maybe it has something to do with what you wear, but even so I'm amazed it's as bad as that.

And also all the OLD lewd stuff..I mean I do hear stories but you seem to get a ridiculously high percentage of them.

What kind of pics have you on your profile?

I get a lot of boob attention. I have big boobs, and let me tell you, people always think that it's welcome to comment about them. Men and women. I love them, so does everyone else. And it's not always easy to hide them when I want to.

I think I had a thread about this. And other women replied they'd had similar experiences with OLD. My profile pics are all very G rated, I'm fully clothed. Once I had a picture where I was wearing a T-shirt, granted it was a tight shirt like all women wear, but still, a T-shirt, and this one guy guesses my bra size. I was thinking, I specifically took down body photos because I was sick of getting creepy messages, and left that one because I thought my boobs weren't so obvious in it, it was a black T-shirt! I actually liked him too, and then out of nowhere he takes a decent conversation into the gutter. It started off a regular chat, and then it's all about boobs.

You say tinder was worse..but on tinder the guy can only message you if you like them. What was your selection criteria for swiping right? Because if you were just basing it on a look, maybe you are just naturally attracted to douchebags.

Hilarious! Thanks for the laugh

I can't remember my method on Tinder, that was a few years ago and I was only on there for a really short time. I definitely don't just base it on looks. But there are a LOT of douchebags around here so some of them are in disguise.

Here's who I don't pick:

-Guys who take selfies with their cats

-Guys who have too many cliches in their profile

-Bad grooming (today a guy had a beard longer than my hair, gross)

-Too many tattoos or piercings

-Anyone who looks scary

-guys who look like they have no friends or hobbies

-doesn't have a grown up job, but that's negotiable..lol

-says "not looking for anything serious" in their profile

I appreciate it when they write something interesting about themselves but no one has a profile longer than a paragraph. So I've never usually cared much about that.

October 10, 2016

This notion that a pursuit is supposed to ensue, and that guys are somehow deficient because you can't get them to is both intriguing and amusing. I think you maintain a rigid paradigm with regard to how the whole dance is supposed unfold.

First, pursue what? The privilege of attending nana's 87th b-day? Let me give you a hint... if a guy pursues, it ain't going to be about access to anything attached to your nana. It's precisely the thing you're being so critical of them for wanting in the first place!

I don't get why you feel so entitled to be pursued, or why you see it as litmus test of your own value... as if a guy is supposed to fall in love with you at first sight be laser focused while you flit around with ambivalence, setting up competitions, etc.? This fairy-tale, Disney fare is just not realistic in real life. Why not focus on authentic interactions, reciprocity and cooperation? What are you doing to foster the kind of connection and interaction that would make them respect you and desire a relationship?

I think men who know their value don't need to pursue, and find it distasteful to have to beg a woman for her attention. If they have options they just move along and focus their energy where it's reciprocated.

You're taking this out of context, first of all. I was responding to the notion that another poster wrote, that these guys are going to pursue when I leave the door open. Whereas I should have just shut down the conversation as soon as he said he didn't want a relationship, this is what was said in another post.

So I said, in my experience, the casual sex guys do not pursue nor care to put in any effort whatsoever. and guys in OLD want to put in much less effort than men who I've met other ways. That's been my experience.

You're twisting that into making me some sort of entitled princess. Which I don't appreciate.

I know no one wants to go to Nana's 87th birthday, that was an example of a relationship type obligation.

But I am a little rigid about certain things. That is true. I have expectations, and limits for what I want, how I want it to happen, who I want it to happen with. I don't think that makes me entitled, it means I know who I am.

For your question in bold- what exactly CAN I do to gain a guy's respect, when our entire interaction is superficial and meaningless? Was I supposed to go out with him, knowing he wanted casual sex and I don't, waste his time and mine, in the hopes of building a more meaningful interaction? I don't understand your question.

I do focus on authentic interactions, when I'm fortunate enough that they happen. I guess you are saying that by wanting a guy to take me seriously enough to meet me in person, before asking me to have sex with him, then I am begging to be pursued? Or is that me requiring men to beg for my attention? You're making this all much more complicated than it really is.

October 10, 2016

OP, if you find that you are getting better results from RL dating, perhaps better to give online dating a rest for now and focus on that?

I think men who know their value don't need to pursue, and find it distasteful to have to beg a woman for her attention.

Pursuing and 'begging a woman for her attention' are two very, very different things. Successful pursuers will likely tell you that there is no 'begging' whatsoever in their pursuit. It's a dance that both parties enjoy.

And yes, you might not believe it, but some men actually ENJOY pursuing. And if the OP wants a man like that, so what? Each to their own. It's incredibly annoying how you keep hounding folks' threads with no constructive suggestions except that they should conduct their dating and relationships the same way you do.

October 10, 2016

I believe that men who know their worth and want a relationship find a woman who adores him and he values and pursues her with abandon

October 10, 2016

Because you are a nice guy!

I'm not though!

I think it's more I have enough common sense to not be so obvious.

I get a lot of boob attention. I have big boobs, and let me tell you, people always think that it's welcome to comment about them.

Yeah big boobs are probably a magnet for the more hookup type guys. All you can do is not emphasise it.

Sounds like you aren't.

If I were you, if they mention it, Next them.

I've message loads of women with big boobs, not once did I bring it up.

Here's who I don't pick:
-Guys who take selfies with their cats
-Guys who have too many cliches in their profile
-Bad grooming (today a guy had a beard longer than my hair, gross)
-Too many tattoos or piercings
-Anyone who looks scary
-guys who look like they have no friends or hobbies
-doesn't have a grown up job, but that's negotiable..lol
-says "not looking for anything serious" in their profile

Most of that sounds reasonable.

Not sure why cat selfies are so bad, I don't have a cat or a cat selfie, but one wouldn't put me off.

You don't mention it. Do you pick bathroom selfie/otherwise scantily clad guys?

Maybe pick a couple of questions that require a bit of intelligent thought and ask these to guys that message you. Might filter out some of the chaff.

October 10, 2016

I'm not though!
I think it's more I have enough common sense to not be so obvious.

Sure you are! What do you mean you're not a good guy?

Yeah big boobs are probably a magnet for the more hookup type guys. All you can do is not emphasise it.
Sounds like you aren't.
If I were you, if they mention it, Next them.
I've message loads of women with big boobs, not once did I bring it up.

And then guys always think you're overweight if you don't post body photos. It's a lose-lose situation.

Most of that sounds reasonable.
Not sure why cat selfies are so bad, I don't have a cat or a cat selfie, but one wouldn't put me off.

You don't mention it. Do you pick bathroom selfie/otherwise scantily clad guys?

Maybe pick a couple of questions that require a bit of intelligent thought and ask these to guys that message you. Might filter out some of the chaff.

Cats are gross to me, to clean up after. I like dogs. The cat selfies, or just photos of their cat, are so weird to me. I have a dog, but he's not in my profile. You can only load a few photos, I'd not waste one on my dog. Even though he is super cute, people are considering dating me, not my dog. There are a lot of guys who apparently love cats, too.

So the bathroom selfie, or shirtless photos....I used to strictly not pick those guys either. But lately they all have shirtless photos at the beach or gym or hiking or tough mudder or something...so I decided to be okay with that, since otherwise I'd not have anyone to talk to.

Thats a good suggestion, about intelligent questions to ask them. Although, you say you're not a good guy, so why should I follow your advice?

October 10, 2016

I believe that men who know their worth and want a relationship find a woman who adores him and he values and pursues her with abandon

I don't think I would need to pursue a woman who adores me. If she requires pursuit, her adoration can't be that strong.

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