lvgrl Posted July 6, 2005 Posted July 6, 2005 Originally posted by alphamale maybe he is Wilt Chamberlain? hahahahaha
morrigan Posted July 6, 2005 Posted July 6, 2005 Originally posted by alphamale maybe he is Wilt Chamberlain? Or Gene Simmons.
Craig Posted July 6, 2005 Posted July 6, 2005 Originally posted by alphamale maybe he is Wilt Chamberlain? Dammit, there goes my coffee again!
moimeme Posted July 6, 2005 Posted July 6, 2005 his answer with a i went to a all girl school mostly (two dudes in the whole school) and in his class was 496 girls and he said by his sr. yr he slept with ALL of them.. That plus the wives plus the children - I really think you have a nutjob here. His stories all sound fake - especially the one about the school. FIVE children? Is he supporting all these people? Really, I'd run just because either he's got much too much history or he's a boldfaced liar.
shygurl Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Sorry hun but I think you're just far too inexperienced in the relationship department to realize what a loser this guy is. You simply haven't had enough relationships to be able to really say he's "such a nice guy." A nice guy doesn't tell his new girl that he's slept with 500 girls JUST in high school............can you imagine how many (if that's true) he's slept with since then? He's likely a walking case of Herpes or HIV. Do you want to contract HIV? Please tell me you haven't yet slept with him. A stable "good catch" of a man wouldn't be dating someone who's practically young enough to be his daughter. A 34 yr old man, unless he's truly immature, wouldn't have anything in common (nothing substantial) with an 18 yr old - sorry. So he's been married 3 times - well guess who the common denominator in all of these failed marriages is? HIM. Oh sure, I'm certain he's told you some big long sob story about all of his ex wives were so terrible to him........and he's made you feel sorry for him..........but you shouldn't buy it. So he's got 5 children (that he KNOWS OF) - if he's any sort of MAN, he'll be paying a sh*tload in child support.......in fact, it would likely be almost as much as he takes home each paycheck. The guy wouldn't have 2 nickels to rub together. Then again, maybe he's a deadbeat Dad who doesn't pay child support - and he's brought 5 children into this world but isn't man enough to help support them. So do you know which it is? Gee, how did you meet him - please don't say "on the internet" ??! Of course he's sweet to you and you think he's the greatest things since sliced bread but of COURSE he's going to charm you and be sweet - but that doesn't mean you're seeing his true colors. Stable men who make good boyfriends are men who are not 34 yrs old, divorced 3 times and have 5 children. Nor do they sleep with allegedly hundreds of women. Guys like him like young girls because an older woman ,closer to his age, she wouldn't give him the time of day - so he goes after the young ones because they're easily dazzled. So does he have a stable good paying job? Does he live on his own? Does he support himself? Or is he a bum who lives with 5 roommates and he has to hitch a ride to get anywhere?
VirginiaBob Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 quote:not to mention what he did from 18 up to 34.. been married 3 times, has five kids,etc.. "That is more troubling than the sexual tally he told you. Everyone has their own opinion of what's acceptable to them sexually or relationship wise, but it's going to be hard for you to be comfortable with a person for who they are, if some aspects of their life really disturb you. " agreed, I'd be more upset about those latter years. those earlier years just sounded like a horny adolescent and really didn't mean anything.
moimeme Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 those earlier years just sounded like a horny adolescent and really didn't mean anything. Unless he's the most gorgeous, charming, appealing human being alive (oh and it really sounds like it )there's no way he slept with over 500 schoolgirls while he was still in high school. He maybe jo'd to the pictures of 500 girls but that's about it.
shygurl Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Well if he did purposely exaggerate the # of girls he bedded in school - then what kind of guy is he? What kind of man would tell such a tall tale to his new young girlfriend? Answer: a pretty immature, screwed up one.
crazy_grl Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by moimeme Unless he's the most gorgeous, charming, appealing human being alive (oh and it really sounds like it )there's no way he slept with over 500 schoolgirls while he was still in high school. He maybe jo'd to the pictures of 500 girls but that's about it. Considering that people are generally in high school for 4 years, and each year has approx. 256 days, that means he had to have slept with a different girl once every other day, including school days and summers. Either that or he was sleeping with multiple women at the same time and/or just on the same days. He'd have been a very busy boy. Sounds like a big fat liar. Either way, it's bad. If you still think he's a good guy, ask him how he's changed since high school, what made him stop sleeping with so many women. If his past is in actually the past, his answer will show it. And listen carefully, because he might be able to trick you with some BS answer that makes him sound like a wonderful guy, especially since you're so young.
RecordProducer Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 I think what bothers you here is how come he slept with so many women, had 3 marriages and 5 kids. So the obvious answers are: 1. He loves women; 2. Women love him; 3. He has had many one-night stands and a lot of casual sex; 4. He has been bringing radical decisions easily: to have sex, kids, to marry... What bothers you next is whether he is able to be faithful. You can't know that now and it might be too late later because you might fall in love with him. I believe that people with a rich sexual history are more prone to infidelity than those who have had very few partners. Yet it doesn't make those who have had 20 women more likely to be faithful. Life is not statistics. It only takes one man and one woman to commit infidelity. It seems that he has the type of personality that gets lit up quickly and loves with fire that burns fast. We women are often attracted and smitten by a man's passion and desire for us. Such men are wonderful to be with as long as their love lasts. I am sure you can have a lot of fun if you surrender to him. You can love and be loved; you'll be broken hearted or break his heart. It's up to you to decide whether to take the risk or not.
Tony427 Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Sounds a little scary to me. He may seem nice but I have a hard time believing that every girl in the school put out for him... unless he forced them. It may be a harsh thing to say but it can't be ruled out.
XNemesisX Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 He was just kidding around. It was probably a figure of speech for him to say that he slept with ALL of them. C'mon...do you really believe that load of sh*t? This isn't to say that he didn't sleep with quite a LOT. I do know one guy I went to high school with who had slept with 82 people during high school so hey its possible. Not 500...but 100 is do-able. His wild sexual history aside, the guy sounds like a loser. Besides, you are 19...why the hell would you even want a 34 year old? Ew. You aren't THAT desperate are you?!?! Find someone without a bunch of baggage. You're too young to stoop to such a level. Frankly, he sounds like someone who should be on Jerry Springer.
aviva_dawn Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 I'm LMAO about the "500 girls".....haha not likely. There was one guy that I grew up with who lost his virginity at 13 or something, and has done the deed with about 75 different girls. (He's into one night stands......and goes clubbing every other night.) But he's also 35..... This guy sounds like a bad rainbow trout short of a plate to shove it on. I met my 26 year old bf at 19, but I was also an extremely mature 19 and was more into stocks, bonds, real estate, running a business and planning which law school had more of a statistical chance of accepting me than another to be interested in many of the things that other people my age loved to do. That has always been my way. Me and my bf are into many of the same things and have very similar goals and do the same things. (I tutor/He teaches, I run a business/He runs a business, He likes tennis/I like tennis....ect ecetera.) I have no issue with the age gap thing. My parents are eleven years apart. My Dad was 22 and my Mom was 32 (almost 33.) when they married. Their marriage lasted almost 23 years until death ended their love this past March. Age gaps , smage gaps. The key is to have a well-balanced relationship where the partners within it can relate to each other and understand one another. Do you have anything in common with this guy? Can you immediately state the qualities that he has that you like and appreciate about him? Try to live a little. Don't let this guy and his charms keep you from what your goals and aspirations are. Sorry if my message offends anyone. I rarely give advice on this board, but I felt obligated to speak up on this issue.
RecordProducer Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by XNemesisX He was just kidding around. It was probably a figure of speech for him to say that he slept with ALL of them. C'mon...do you really believe that load of sh*t? I was just thinking that also. Like when you say "she slept with half of the city" - it's just an expression that means she had many sex partners, not literally slept with 786,392 people. I agree with Bob that his 3 marriages and 5 kids would concern me much more than his sexual history. No one ever asked me about how many men I have slept with so even if the number was 500, I could keep it for myself. My ex-husband has had only 2 women in bed, 2 wives and 3 kids. (the information is not up-dated since 4 years ago so perhaps he has added a few women since)
HokeyReligions Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 He's 34 and says things like "all girl school mostly" Huh? Either it was an ALL GIRL school meaning they did not have male students, or he went to secretarial school where male students are welcome but seldom enroll. I doubt both and I think he was just blowing smoke. I'd be worried about why he feels he needs to blow said smoke. Smoke Screen maybe?
Author Syncerity Posted July 7, 2005 Author Posted July 7, 2005 No not desperate at all nemesis..jus young dudes aka young men around my age dont really catch my interest... There all into that hit and quit stage and playing mind games blah blah and all that where im like well let me try my hand at the oldies..desperation doesnt have a age, if thats how you think, then a brain change is due for you.. and let a dude ruin my dreams and goals, oh no never that.. if i had to choose between a man and making money, i would choose making my own money in a heart beat...im not gonna let him charm my pants off and then just be assed out on my own not knowing what to do or where to go.. do we have stuff in common someone ask, Yes alot..age should never be used for if a person is worthy of something...hell i know damn 16yr olds working for big corporations so just cause im 19 doesnt mean i dont know anything about life or the real world...expericence is what ages you, not years...80yr olds can have the innocent sweet and naive mind of a 8yr old, but you wouldnt think that because why, hes old..task at hand is, now that i read the responses and advice on here, i see that im not really bothered bythe sex partners, because he's not with them now...folks on here are so hypocritical i swear, you live in closed boxes must be..its not IMPOSSIBLE for someone to sleep with 500+ women in 4yrs... so whether he's sellin wolf tickets aka "lyin", i gotta give him the benefit of the doubt, in what he say.. in fact now that i think about it, girls are triflin and out to have sex now, so i mean if it is only two dudes in the whole school why not do them? and yea ur right hokey he went to the school where not too many dudes enrolled in it.. there was 496 girls in his graduating class and him and this other dude... either way it goes, ill be on my toes with this one...
XNemesisX Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 So you are ready to settle down at 19?! You sure about that? Because someone in his 30s will be more serious about committing than a young person. Although, after having 3 wives he might be a bit more cautious this time around. Hey good luck to you~ he must be awfully good looking and packing something great for you to overlook his 3 ex-wives, 5 kids, and his alleged 500+ sex partners. .... Sorry, I don't understand what you would see in him unless there is something wrong with you or you are unattractive. But to each his own and it's not my place to judge. I'm 22 so I'm not that much older than you and I certainly haven't lived in a box! I know people can sleep with tons of people, I'm no angel myself. But 500 during high school?? That's more porn star than real life. And not to sound old here but I bet your parents wouldn't exactly think to them selves "WOW what a great catch for our daughter! That man really deserves her!" They would probably be ready to croak if they knew.
OMGaGuest Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by shygurl Sorry hun but I think you're just far too inexperienced in the relationship department to realize what a loser this guy is. You simply haven't had enough relationships to be able to really say he's "such a nice guy." A nice guy doesn't tell his new girl that he's slept with 500 girls JUST in high school............can you imagine how many (if that's true) he's slept with since then? He's likely a walking case of Herpes or HIV. Do you want to contract HIV? Please tell me you haven't yet slept with him. A stable "good catch" of a man wouldn't be dating someone who's practically young enough to be his daughter. A 34 yr old man, unless he's truly immature, wouldn't have anything in common (nothing substantial) with an 18 yr old - sorry. So he's been married 3 times - well guess who the common denominator in all of these failed marriages is? HIM. Oh sure, I'm certain he's told you some big long sob story about all of his ex wives were so terrible to him........and he's made you feel sorry for him..........but you shouldn't buy it. So he's got 5 children (that he KNOWS OF) - if he's any sort of MAN, he'll be paying a sh*tload in child support.......in fact, it would likely be almost as much as he takes home each paycheck. The guy wouldn't have 2 nickels to rub together. Then again, maybe he's a deadbeat Dad who doesn't pay child support - and he's brought 5 children into this world but isn't man enough to help support them. So do you know which it is? Gee, how did you meet him - please don't say "on the internet" ??! Of course he's sweet to you and you think he's the greatest things since sliced bread but of COURSE he's going to charm you and be sweet - but that doesn't mean you're seeing his true colors. Stable men who make good boyfriends are men who are not 34 yrs old, divorced 3 times and have 5 children. Nor do they sleep with allegedly hundreds of women. Guys like him like young girls because an older woman ,closer to his age, she wouldn't give him the time of day - so he goes after the young ones because they're easily dazzled. So does he have a stable good paying job? Does he live on his own? Does he support himself? Or is he a bum who lives with 5 roommates and he has to hitch a ride to get anywhere? Hahaha... you sounded JUST like a mother just then, I swear! I can imagine MY mom's voice saying all that. :-D Sorry, couldn't help but comment on that. I'm not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing with her, just thought it was funny and comment-worthy.
Author Syncerity Posted July 7, 2005 Author Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by XNemesisX So you are ready to settle down at 19?! You sure about that? Because someone in his 30s will be more serious about committing than a young person. Although, after having 3 wives he might be a bit more cautious this time around. Sorry, I don't understand what you would see in him unless there is something wrong with you or you are unattractive. But to each his own and it's not my place to judge. I'm 22 so I'm not that much older than you and I certainly haven't lived in a box! I know people can sleep with tons of people, I'm no angel myself. But 500 during high school?? That's more porn star than real life. And not to sound old here but I bet your parents wouldn't exactly think to them selves "WOW what a great catch for our daughter! That man really deserves her!" They would probably be ready to croak if they knew. Settle down at 19 no..but if love came my way be it with him or with someone else then i'll have to roll with the punches... your saying that i have to be ugly or theres something wrong with me because i like somebody that had a life way "BEFORE" we met.. i have goals and dreams miss and i aint "DESPERATE" to have a man...theres a difference in being desperate and theres a difference in crazy luck and dealing with the cards dealt to you..and just like a typical "22" yr old with not that much life experience i see thats how you are.. so in the teen yrs are you saying that boys arent into sex alot? is that what your trying to get out, because i dont know what world you live in, but when i was in hs, thats what most boys thought about and did was have sex...so you would be against the dudes in hs now if they had sex with 500 before they were done with hs..and i actually know a few dudes when i was back on the east coast in hs that had sex with waaaaaaaaay more than 500, so i know its possible.. seems like ur also saying that what a person does in hs or whatever that they cant change or be different when they are older... im not the average teen where i would date a "older" man because he has a bentley or a mercedes and a nice house and has a yacht and blah blah blah.... thats what a average "teen" girl would be into if they were to date a older man..i dont date for that, because i make my "own" money.. and you dont understand what i would see in somebody with a past..girl please grow up, im the one sounding 22 and ur sounding 19... so you mean to tell me that when your dating someone you learn their whole life story on the first date? you know how many sex partners, if they've been married, been in jail, and all that other indepth life stuff...you know all that the first date huh? yeaaaaaa your so "pretty" and so "undesperate" that you have males that you already know their history "before" you two date...its like this, if i knew within the first date that he had so much baggage and blah blah then i woulda high tailed it the other way and been like whoa oooh a lil too much activity for me and i dont even like you like that, so i dont have to stay...most folks dont give out their personal info until they like someone and feel they are worthy of trust to be told this kind of stuff...so i had to wait until he was ready to spring the 3 wives, kids,etc..hell i had to ask how many sex partners and if i didnt, then i doubt if he would have "volunteered" the information... to further help your understanding of what i see in this man since you seem to be confuzzled, i see in him the same things you would see in a man..he's funny, nice, has "further goals" on top of the ones he has already accomplished, he's smart, and fun to be around,etc.. thats what i see in him... i cant help that i started to like him before i knew what i know about him now..people do have pasts and when you like someone you either deal with it or just leave...he's still a cool person to be around and all that, but i cant have a relationship with someone that has that much history and stuff.. and nemisis...it doesnt matter if your blue, black, white , peppermint striped, fat, skinny, ugly, or beautiful, every woman has the same chance of meeting a guy with a history before her...
XNemesisX Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Okay, if you like him then go for it. I know that sometimes we fall for people BEFORE we hear all the good, the bad, and the ugly. Trust me, I have had life experiences.. I have been in 2 long term relationships with one engagement in my life of 22 years and I have dated a LOT. Both of my long term relationships....well I fell for them before I found out some cruddy past things they did. It bothered me but I couldn't just stop liking them all of a sudden. But did you know about his 3 ex-wives in the very beginning? Or his 5 kids? It seems like he would have told you this from the start unless he was trying to hide it. Oh...and 500+ people is QUITE a past. It blows all of the cruddy pasts of my exes out of the water. My first long term relationship was with a guy who had slept with 40 women by age 22. I had thought that was bad. Just be sure you make him go get tested. Statistically, the odds aren't in his favor that he's clean.
alphamale Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by XNemesisX Trust me, I have had life experiences... in my life of 22 years baby u ain't seen nuthin' yet
crazy_grl Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by Syncerity seems like ur also saying that what a person does in hs or whatever that they cant change or be different when they are older... People can change, but it's a stupid mistake to just assume that they have changed when you haven't seen evidence or even talked to them about the situation to find out whether or not they have. The 3 ex-wives indicates more than not that he hadn't changed when he was with them. And if he hadn't changed at that point, why do you believe that he has now? You're arguing that you shouldn't hold a persons past against them. I agree completely, but you've given no evidence that he's a different person. He was probably smart and fun to be around when he was screwing the entire school too. im not the average teen where i would date a "older" man because he has a bentley or a mercedes and a nice house and has a yacht and blah blah blah.... thats what a average "teen" girl would be into if they were to date a older man..i dont date for that, because i make my "own" money.. The average teen girl doesn't date for that. She dates older men for the 'Oh, I'm so mature' factor. Which looks like exactly what you're doing. You can say you're different, more mature, more knowledgable, better, or whatever than other people. That doesn't make it true. Yes, there are some very mature teens and some immature adults. No one here will argue that. People aren't saying what they are based solely on your age. It's the things you are saying about this guy that show you're naive. I'm not saying this to pick on you, but to give you a small dose of reality. You think you're more mature than other 19 yr olds and that you know what you're doing, but nearly every 19 yr old thinks that. And that's why they make stupid mistakes like getting involved in bad relationships. you know all that the first date huh? yeaaaaaa your so "pretty" and so "undesperate" that you have males that you already know their history "before" you two date...its like this, if i knew within the first date that he had so much baggage and blah blah then i woulda high tailed it the other way and been like whoa oooh a lil too much activity for me and i dont even like you like that, so i dont have to stay...most folks dont give out their personal info until they like someone and feel they are worthy of trust to be told this kind of stuff...so i had to wait until he was ready to spring the 3 wives, kids,etc..hell i had to ask how many sex partners and if i didnt, then i doubt if he would have "volunteered" the information... When people won't tell you these kinds of things within the first few dates and you're looking for a serious relationship, that itself is a sign of possible trouble to come and a definite sign not to get emotionally involved. You don't emotionally invest yourself with someone you know virtually nothing about. Doing so is incredibly naive. Because you did that, you're considering staying with a man who, if you'd known his past on the first few dates, you'd have run for the hills. And that would have been the smart move. Sticking around because he can cover up his character flaws by being fun and nice is a bad move. That itself shows your inexperience and lack of maturity.
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