ConfusedInOC Posted July 8, 2005 Posted July 8, 2005 Originally posted by Swamp You want to be James Bond. Possess all the GOOD qualities of a NICE GUY: reliability, positive attitude, smile, sense of humor, endearing, warm, reassuring AND Possess all the GOOD qualities of a JERK: unpredictability, aloofness, independence, opinion, contradictory It's such a 50/50 thing on each side. Half of you should be completely into the girl. Half of you should be completely uninterested in the girl. Don't borrow money. Don't shower her with gifts. Crave her. Be thirsty for her. Absolutely desire her. Don't ever, ever, ever need her. Be great with her. Be great without her. Do show how much you are into her. Don't ever say how much you are into her. Women unhappily break up with nice guys. Women unhappily stay with jerks. It's the guy's fault too. Guys need to master the balance that is required to keep a girl sprung on them. You gotta learn how to mix both sides of it, to be a very effective, and desirable player in the dating game. Be a nice guy at the perfect time, and be a jerk at the perfect time. Outstanding post and right on target. Door Mats of the world, here is your road map to freedom!
TUDOR Posted July 8, 2005 Posted July 8, 2005 Great post Swamp. You should for real change you LS handle to 007!
alphamale Posted July 8, 2005 Posted July 8, 2005 Originally posted by TUDOR 007! vodka martini, shaken not stirred
Rosalind Posted July 8, 2005 Posted July 8, 2005 Originally posted by Swamp aloofness *ahem*...guys? you're all way off base on that one....
TUDOR Posted July 8, 2005 Posted July 8, 2005 Originally posted by Rosalind *ahem*...guys? you're all way off base on that one.... Do tell...........
JS17 Posted July 8, 2005 Posted July 8, 2005 i guess i want a doormat then...what's wrong with wanting a guy that's totally into you?
Rosalind Posted July 8, 2005 Posted July 8, 2005 Okay, 'aloofness'...adj - Distant physically or emotionally; reserved and remote
d'Arthez Posted July 8, 2005 Posted July 8, 2005 Originally posted by JS17 i guess i want a doormat then...what's wrong with wanting a guy that's totally into you? Nothing is wrong with that, JS17. Not all men believe the crap that is posted above.
ConfusedInOC Posted July 8, 2005 Posted July 8, 2005 Originally posted by d'Arthez Nothing is wrong with that, JS17. Not all men believe the crap that is posted above. If a woman so desires a man such as a door mat, that's fine for her. However, the MAJORITY of women do not. That is why door mat men are always whining and crying about being dumped (cough, I know about this first hand.) There is nothing sexy, strong or alluring about a clingy, weak, needy, emotional guy. How many men here want to be with a weak, whiney, emotional, drama queen of a woman? Very few, I would guess.
d'Arthez Posted July 8, 2005 Posted July 8, 2005 Originally posted by ConfusedInOC If a woman so desires a man such as a door mat, that's fine for her. You are pretending that the choice is a dichotomy of opposites. Just as there is no simple dichotomy of being religious or not religious. Just as there is no simple dichotomy between Republicans and Democrats. There is no simple dichotomy between male / female. Need I go on?
ConfusedInOC Posted July 8, 2005 Posted July 8, 2005 Originally posted by d'Arthez Need I go on? No, because the proof is in the number of "door mats/nice guys" posting about being dumped. I'm not disagreeing with you, d'Arthez, to the degree you perceive me to. I am simply stating the majority of women do not want "soft, clingy, door mat nice guys." That's all. I won't argue the fact there are some women who do.
d'Arthez Posted July 8, 2005 Posted July 8, 2005 A post about God does not prove God's existence, nor does it establish any truth about God. The same is true for relationships, nice guys and what women want.
JS17 Posted July 8, 2005 Posted July 8, 2005 damn, then i guess i'm out of luck cause i'm emotional and dramatic.
Swamp Posted July 9, 2005 Posted July 9, 2005 Originally posted by Rosalind *ahem*...guys? you're all way off base on that one.... Aloofness does not mean they do not pay attention to your needs. It means they do not pay attention to things you don't need. It provides attraction. If you want a guy to be absorbed by every second of your day -- you are going to either a. never find a guy, or b. never find a sane guy.
Rosalind Posted July 9, 2005 Posted July 9, 2005 Originally posted by Swamp If you want a guy to be absorbed by every second of your day -- you are going to either a. never find a guy, or b. never find a sane guy. Whoa!!...where all you getting this from? I talked about one item only - aloofness...and I gave the dictionary definition.
d'Arthez Posted July 9, 2005 Posted July 9, 2005 Rosalind, Sanity is a concept that is most often defined by personal experience (unless the majority of Shackers are psychologists / psychiatrists). And of course it tells more of the person who does the defining, than the person who is defined by "sanity."
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