ShyLove Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 Hello, I just have a general question (more so for the guys, I guess) about OLD. I have been doing it off and on for about a year or so and have been very reluctant to try it for this reason... I meet guys, go on dates with them (usually more than one), they go on and on about how much fun they had, schedule future dates and continue to text me throughout the days. While doing and saying all this, they still go online searching for new dates. Now I guess I get it in a sense because it is only a handful of dates but they way I see it is.. why would you still go online searching for other dates if you are going out of your way to call a girl after your dates and talk for 2 hours about how much fun you had and how much you have in common (current guy and a few others in the past) or like a girl enough to send her flowers at work on more than one occasion (different guy) ?? I know they are searching for dates bc they reword their profiles or upload new pics. I also know bc some just flat out stop contacting me even though our last conversation was extremely pleasant, some with future possible plans. The only plausible explanation is that they found a shiny new toy to play with lol It is just so odd to me. I guess my question is...guys if you do this does this mean you are not into the girl as much as you are telling her? And should I just automatically write them off if they are doing this? (because I feel like they are lying to me flat out). I'm such a lowkey, anti dramatic girl (which they often compliment me on) and I appreciate honesty, which I let them know. So why go out of your way to go on and on about our "connection" if there wasn't one in the first place? Thanks for your help!!
smackie9 Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 Girl, I will tell you this...if the guy is still searchin, you didn't make much of an impact with the guy. You need to up your game if you want them eating out of your hand.
smackie9 Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 When you hear bs like how great you are and talk about connection...they are trying to keep you hooked into a holding pattern for sex later. 3
Shining One Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 While I may feel a great connection with a woman on the first date, I won't let that stop me from seeking out others. I don't stop searching until one of the women has met all of my requirements. It usually takes a few dates for me to determine if a woman is right for me. 4
Author ShyLove Posted August 20, 2016 Author Posted August 20, 2016 oh ok. I guess I'm naive and thought that flowers and surprise dates actually meant something lol Its pretty sad that you can't even enjoy sweet gestures anymore But I'm not naive enough to have sex early on. So they will not be BS'n me into that lol Thanks
Author ShyLove Posted August 20, 2016 Author Posted August 20, 2016 While I may feel a great connection with a woman on the first date, I won't let that stop me from seeking out others. I don't stop searching until one of the women has met all of my requirements. It usually takes a few dates for me to determine if a woman is right for me. That makes sense. Thanks for your input
smackie9 Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 oh ok. I guess I'm naive and thought that flowers and surprise dates actually meant something lol Its pretty sad that you can't even enjoy sweet gestures anymore But I'm not naive enough to have sex early on. So they will not be BS'n me into that lol Thanks Dear the sweet gestures only mean something if they are being genuine and the only way to know that is that they are being consistent and true to their word. When I worked at a night club, I had guys buy me flowers all the time, but how they acted later was telling. They were just buttering me up so they could get in a head of the line up. It's a competitive world out there. If you are not ahead of the pack you need to change your game. 2
Author ShyLove Posted August 20, 2016 Author Posted August 20, 2016 Yes, I guess I do need to change it but not sure how since I get positive feedback, which means nothing I guess. I went through some of these questions from guys who seem to be hooked on dramatic, aloof, semi psychotic, 3 baby daddy, women still hooked on their exes. I guess that's what it takes now a days...but don't think I have that in me haha I guess I'll just take some time off to re-evaluate.Again. Thanks again
Gaeta Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 If you had a date with a man that was online 24-7 than he's serial dater or a newcomer and chances are he'll go back to being online full time after your date (s). I have never got something interesting going with a man that was online constantly. The few men I ended up in relationships with were men that came online once in a while only. Surprisingly I was the one in most case that made 1st contact. They were not online. I found their profile while browsing through the result of my search. Also, on first contact ask them how long they've been online. If they are recently single or are just starting online dating, don't waste your time. When people get online for the very first time they are so overwhelmed with the wide variety of choices they will never stop at the first woman they meet. 4
Shining One Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 If you had a date with a man that was online 24-7 than he's serial dater or a newcomer and chances are he'll go back to being online full time after your date (s). I have never got something interesting going with a man that was online constantly.This isn't necessarily true. I'm an OLD veteran and you'll find me online 24/7 when I'm searching. I do this to maximize my chances of success (finding someone who is relationship material with mutual interest) within the shortest time possible (to minimize how long I'm paying for a Match subscription).When people get online for the very first time they are so overwhelmed with the wide variety of choices they will never stop at the first woman they meet.I'd bet it's fairly rare for anyone (man or woman) to stop at the first person they meet. What are the odds of finding long-term compatibility on your first meet?
Author ShyLove Posted August 20, 2016 Author Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) If you had a date with a man that was online 24-7 than he's serial dater or a newcomer and chances are he'll go back to being online full time after your date (s). I have never got something interesting going with a man that was online constantly. The few men I ended up in relationships with were men that came online once in a while only. Surprisingly I was the one in most case that made 1st contact. They were not online. I found their profile while browsing through the result of my search. Also, on first contact ask them how long they've been online. If they are recently single or are just starting online dating, don't waste your time. When people get online for the very first time they are so overwhelmed with the wide variety of choices they will never stop at the first woman they meet. I do think this is good information, thank you! I do not contact or respond to guys who write "new to online dating", "recently single" or "new in the city" just for the reasons you stated. They are going to be overwhelmed and will act more like kids in a candy store with all of their options. Edited August 20, 2016 by ShyLove 1
4x4storm Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) Girl, I will tell you this...if the guy is still searchin, you didn't make much of an impact with the guy. You need to up your game if you want them eating out of your hand. Nope Nope I can not tell you the amount of times I have put all my effort into one girl for them to friendzone me after a few dates. So when I go back to message the girls I stopped talking to they all ignore me. That's exactly the reason I keep searching when at the same time I could be dating someone simply because I have put all my eggs into one basket and have been burned for it to many times. Now some of the comments could be right and these men could be players but I think it's important for you to state your intentions with them. Also, on first contact ask them how long they've been online. If they are recently single or are just starting online dating, don't waste your time. When people get online for the very first time they are so overwhelmed with the wide variety of choices they will never stop at the first woman they meet. Lol what? I was on Okcupid for one week when I met my ex girlfriend I deleted my account 2 weeks after meeting her. Edited August 21, 2016 by 4x4storm 3
Sunkissedpatio Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) Dear the sweet gestures only mean something if they are being genuine and the only way to know that is that they are being consistent and true to their word. Ya but that's her point, she is trying to do exactly that: assess where the guy stands. And these guys are doing all the gestures of someone who is consistent and genuinely interested and they are doing contradictory crap. It isn't just a "handful of guys she chose wrong" OLD these days is inundated with fickle, flighty men who seem to be perpetually suffering from GIGS. And I am certain it is even worse of women. I'm not sure if you are single and on the OLD scene or not but if you aren't and haven't done OLD for a while I wouldn't be too quick to give an opinion of what she should be doing differently her question is valid for the guys. What the heck are they doing? These actions create a lot of confusion for women. Typically the gestures she describes are saved for more serious-minded dating not for dating 100 women at the same time online. ShyLove I've been dabbling in OLD lately and though I can't speak for why guys do this (I'm recently single after almost 5 years) I thought OLD was always a pretty fickle medium in terms of how unreasonable people's expectations are on there and the "all you can eat" buffet syndrome where people keep going back for more because: hey stomach is ready to explode but t's only $19.99, this time around I am finding there is an explosion of vapidness, neurotic behaviour (I have talked to so many angry, ANGRY jaded men that already reach out expecting to be played, be mistreated or rejected that there's nowhere but down to go from there) and these are guys I am luke warm about on paper... Im finding guys on OLD have the attention span of a gnat and I haven't even gone past a few msgs online let alone date them. On the one hand they are complaining about how there are so many crazies online but if you start talking to them or showing interest showing sanity they disappear for a week and you can see they are online every single day (this particular site you don't have to log in to see who is on there) and then a week later "hey what happened to you?" Really? Delete convo. next I pulled the plug today, NOT my scene anymore, yuck! when I'm ready for something serious I think I will pay for a proper dating site if need be. Time is money and I believe people who are paying are not there to waste their money. All the free sites are just a big WOOHOOO of miserable, unrealistic freaks. I can't tell you how many profiles I read "by the way, the reason I always look like I am online is because I check my messages on my phone" Guys actually write that disclaimer in their profiles. WTF!?!? Ya and? You can log off when you are done. Nice try but homey don't play dat...the reason you always look on is because you ARE online all the friggin time. Edited August 21, 2016 by Sunkissedpatio 3
Gloria25 Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 OLD sucks. And not just sucks, but sucks raw eggs. Lots of fakes, flakes, and the like. Worst, they go to "dating" websites when all they want is to hook-up...when they should be frequenting Tinder, Pof, Ashley Madison, Craigslist and/or some other website that is clearly for casual, NSA crap. Anywho, like others said, there are some decent people, but they're diamonds in the rough. Don't expect them to shut down their profile until they had enough dates with you to decide if you're cool. Now, the ones that log on immediately after a date with you (like the same night), that's a bad sign. And, about the flowers and stuff. Yes, it may take a few dates to see if he's just being polite or into you. Lastly, don't take it personal. On OLD it's like a catalog. With so much to choose from and our self-indulgent, quick gratification society, some people are never gonna be satisfied and think they need to keep their options open Well wishes. Still, try to get out there and do like hobbies (hiking, meetups), volunteering and/or church to see if you meet someone in real life. 2
Dis Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 Ya but that's her point, she is trying to do exactly that: assess where the guy stands. And these guys are doing all the gestures of someone who is consistent and genuinely interested and they are doing contradictory crap. It isn't just a "handful of guys she chose wrong" OLD these days is inundated with fickle, flighty men who seem to be perpetually suffering from GIGS. And I am certain it is even worse of women. I'm not sure if you are single and on the OLD scene or not but if you aren't and haven't done OLD for a while I wouldn't be too quick to give an opinion of what she should be doing differently her question is valid for the guys. What the heck are they doing? These actions create a lot of confusion for women. Typically the gestures she describes are saved for more serious-minded dating not for dating 100 women at the same time online. ShyLove I've been dabbling in OLD lately and though I can't speak for why guys do this (I'm recently single after almost 5 years) I thought OLD was always a pretty fickle medium in terms of how unreasonable people's expectations are on there and the "all you can eat" buffet syndrome where people keep going back for more because: hey stomach is ready to explode but t's only $19.99, this time around I am finding there is an explosion of vapidness, neurotic behaviour (I have talked to so many angry, ANGRY jaded men that already reach out expecting to be played, be mistreated or rejected that there's nowhere but down to go from there) and these are guys I am luke warm about on paper... Im finding guys on OLD have the attention span of a gnat and I haven't even gone past a few msgs online let alone date them. On the one hand they are complaining about how there are so many crazies online but if you start talking to them or showing interest showing sanity they disappear for a week and you can see they are online every single day (this particular site you don't have to log in to see who is on there) and then a week later "hey what happened to you?" Really? Delete convo. next I pulled the plug today, NOT my scene anymore, yuck! when I'm ready for something serious I think I will pay for a proper dating site if need be. Time is money and I believe people who are paying are not there to waste their money. All the free sites are just a big WOOHOOO of miserable, unrealistic freaks. I can't tell you how many profiles I read "by the way, the reason I always look like I am online is because I check my messages on my phone" Guys actually write that disclaimer in their profiles. WTF!?!? Ya and? You can log off when you are done. Nice try but homey don't play dat...the reason you always look on is because you ARE online all the friggin time. This is really well said I think OLD is just a crap shoot. You win some you lose some. Just a heads up, I tried a paid dating site after I got fed up with the free ones and I can tell you they're not any better. They're basically the same as the free sites (same guys on there) but theres less options...alot of dads, overweight guys, guys much older than me....just not what I was looking for. The only plus is that you'll get less guys looking for a hook up. IMO, match wasnt worth a penny....I never got one date out of match....I wasnt interested in any of the guys I saw....but on the free dating sites I got lots of dates. You can give it a try but I wouldnt waste another cent on paid dating sites OP, I can see why you're frustrated...seems like these guys put on a show only to disappear later. My advice is to try not to get too invested in the guys you date until its gets pretty serious. I know thats tough but it might save you from some disappointment in the future. Also, be patient....OLD takes a ton of time...you have to kiss alot of frogs before you find your prince. One more tip....take a break from dating if you need to. Sometimes all it takes is a fresh perspective Best of luck to you hun 1
Dis Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 OLD sucks. And not just sucks, but sucks raw eggs. Lots of fakes, flakes, and the like. Worst, they go to "dating" websites when all they want is to hook-up...when they should be frequenting Tinder, Pof, Ashley Madison, Craigslist and/or some other website that is clearly for casual, NSA crap. Anywho, like others said, there are some decent people, but they're diamonds in the rough. Don't expect them to shut down their profile until they had enough dates with you to decide if you're cool. Now, the ones that log on immediately after a date with you (like the same night), that's a bad sign. And, about the flowers and stuff. Yes, it may take a few dates to see if he's just being polite or into you. Lastly, don't take it personal. On OLD it's like a catalog. With so much to choose from and our self-indulgent, quick gratification society, some people are never gonna be satisfied and think they need to keep their options open Well wishes. Still, try to get out there and do like hobbies (hiking, meetups), volunteering and/or church to see if you meet someone in real life. I agree with this too. Even if a guy is interested in you he might just go online for entertainment...OLD is kind of addicting....its accessible anytime, anywhere. It doesnt really mean much if a guy goes online during the time hes dating you....it doesnt really speak to his interest level...unless, like Gloria said, he goes on right after the date. I went out on a few a dates with a guy who adored me...he was enamored with me...he was still active on the site I met him on from time to time. I didnt think anything of it. Like I said, he was probably bored... its entertainment...almost like tv. I've had good dates with guys and gone online a day later. Not necessarily because I'm going out of my way to find someone but because of two things....boredom, and not wanting to put all my eggs in one basket, which is a smart approach And until the guy asks you to be exclusive with him...he can go online anytime he wants and talk to whomever he wants. Try to toughen up your skin hun, dont take this type of thing personally. OLD requires thick skin and resilence 1
Ami1uwant Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 A few comments...... 1. Online activity on a dating site....this can come from you having a dating app on a phone. You might have it closed and you haven't looked at it but it still says you are logged in. Also some dating sites register you logging into your account just when you open an email from the company....even though you never logged in. 2. Online dating is a different animal. Some people who have dated May have turned out fine as a relationship had they met in real life snd didn't have online dating. Part of the reason is the psychology behind it. It parallels shopping behavior. Some are called maximizers and they need to look at all the stores in the mall to find a piece of clothing they are looking for while others are satisfiers who just buy what they think is perfectly acceptable for the price they saw snd don't care if it was 5 bucks cheaper St another store. 3. Part of this dynamic is the issue of you don't know how many the other person is dating and how you rank who you date. You may run into the luck of your date was great but he had another date with someone else snd it was even greater. Seeing multiple people is nothing new. People dated multiple people pre online. It usually didn't happen except by random chance of you happening to meet two peop,e around the same time. This this happened with a good friend of mine 20+ years ago. He happened to date two decent women who each had different qualities. He got yo the point of needing to decide who to pursue so me and him got together for some drinks and talked.
Ami1uwant Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 About 7-10 yrs ago online dating was really good. Then the users were for the most part seriously looking and wanting a relationship. With the emergence of smart phones and mass marketing online dating sites have pulled in more snd more flakes, scammers, and those not all that serious. As a result the searches has gotten watered down by a factor of around 10. It used to be say 3 out of 10 you would have a date with who you communicated with, now it might be more like 3 out of 100 or worse. 1
Author ShyLove Posted August 21, 2016 Author Posted August 21, 2016 Ya but that's her point, she is trying to do exactly that: assess where the guy stands. And these guys are doing all the gestures of someone who is consistent and genuinely interested and they are doing contradictory crap. It isn't just a "handful of guys she chose wrong" OLD these days is inundated with fickle, flighty men who seem to be perpetually suffering from GIGS. And I am certain it is even worse of women. I'm not sure if you are single and on the OLD scene or not but if you aren't and haven't done OLD for a while I wouldn't be too quick to give an opinion of what she should be doing differently her question is valid for the guys. What the heck are they doing? These actions create a lot of confusion for women. Typically the gestures she describes are saved for more serious-minded dating not for dating 100 women at the same time online. ShyLove I've been dabbling in OLD lately and though I can't speak for why guys do this (I'm recently single after almost 5 years) I thought OLD was always a pretty fickle medium in terms of how unreasonable people's expectations are on there and the "all you can eat" buffet syndrome where people keep going back for more because: hey stomach is ready to explode but t's only $19.99, this time around I am finding there is an explosion of vapidness, neurotic behaviour (I have talked to so many angry, ANGRY jaded men that already reach out expecting to be played, be mistreated or rejected that there's nowhere but down to go from there) and these are guys I am luke warm about on paper... Im finding guys on OLD have the attention span of a gnat and I haven't even gone past a few msgs online let alone date them. On the one hand they are complaining about how there are so many crazies online but if you start talking to them or showing interest showing sanity they disappear for a week and you can see they are online every single day (this particular site you don't have to log in to see who is on there) and then a week later "hey what happened to you?" Really? Delete convo. next I pulled the plug today, NOT my scene anymore, yuck! when I'm ready for something serious I think I will pay for a proper dating site if need be. Time is money and I believe people who are paying are not there to waste their money. All the free sites are just a big WOOHOOO of miserable, unrealistic freaks. I can't tell you how many profiles I read "by the way, the reason I always look like I am online is because I check my messages on my phone" Guys actually write that disclaimer in their profiles. WTF!?!? Ya and? You can log off when you are done. Nice try but homey don't play dat...the reason you always look on is because you ARE online all the friggin time. haha yes I agree with this entirely. It's like who goes out of their way to find out where someone works to send flowers to them if your know you're not all the way in? Just so strange. And it wasn't like anything happened, one day I went to text him something funny that happened and he was giving me short, cold, one word responses so I just let it be (although I was upset/hurt bc it literally went from hot to cold within one day). Then out of the blue he texted me months later like we never stopped talking (uuugh do I hate that!!) I just ignored it. As far as people online having the attention span of a gnat that is so true!! lol It also gets to me when I see in people's profile "don't contact me if you like this certain sports team or this certain song...." haha I can't believe people are basing love interests on who likes what song or sports teams!! And these guys are in their 30s they're not teenagers - although mentally they probably are. I do feel like I should put myself out there more in real life situations (and I will) but to be honest, I feel like every single guy out there is at least on one dating site so even if you meet someone in person they can still go home and suffer from online GIGS. But yea, I'm just not going to take it so serious anymore. I appreciate all of these replies 1
Sunkissedpatio Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 Just a heads up, I tried a paid dating site after I got fed up with the free ones and I can tell you they're not any better. They're basically the same as the free sites (same guys on there) but theres less options...alot of dads, overweight guys, guys much older than me....just not what I was looking for. The only plus is that you'll get less guys looking for a hook up. IMO, match wasnt worth a penny....I never got one date out of match....I wasnt interested in any of the guys I saw....but on the free dating sites I got lots of dates. You can give it a try but I wouldnt waste another cent on paid dating sites ..OLD takes a ton of time...you have to kiss alot of frogs before you find your prince. One more tip....take a break from dating if you need to. Sometimes all it takes is a fresh perspective Hahah OMG I could have written this myself Disillusionment Yes yes yesss!! I went on there a month ago was on there for a weekend and left running horrified for the very same reasons you listed. I guess all the guys in and around my age are the ones hitting on women your age, and imagine what you saw but at age 50- 60 yikes!! That's what I got. And I get it that the older you get the harder it gets but c'mon! That was a bad move on my part it ended up spiralling me back into "miss the ex like crazy" mode. You want to rehash a bad ex relationship? Go on Match.com Well thanks for the tip Disillusionment, I was thinking somewhere down the line in the distant future if I do go back to OLD to try e-Harms or Elite Professionals something a little more upscale but i am sure it is all the same crap..
Sunkissedpatio Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) haha yes I agree with this entirely. It's like who goes out of their way to find out where someone works to send flowers to them if your know you're not all the way in? Just so strange. And it wasn't like anything happened, one day I went to text him something funny that happened and he was giving me short, cold, one word responses so I just let it be (although I was upset/hurt bc it literally went from hot to cold within one day). Then out of the blue he texted me months later like we never stopped talking (uuugh do I hate that!!) I just ignored it. As far as people online having the attention span of a gnat that is so true!! lol It also gets to me when I see in people's profile "don't contact me if you like this certain sports team or this certain song...." haha I can't believe people are basing love interests on who likes what song or sports teams!! And these guys are in their 30s they're not teenagers - although mentally they probably are. Shylove don't go too deep into trying to figure out what YOU are doing wrong, obviously do you part in bringing the best of yourself into every situation but what these OLD men you are doing and the weird crap they pull on dates falls on THEM not you. It's not that you are "not making an impression" on these men it is that NO ONE is. They're chasing unicorns. I wouldn't internalize their issue. I met my ex online and had been doing OLD off and on for about year when I met him. As soon as I saw flakey signs in guys I was dating I would bail , no questions asked no explanation. If a guy is coming on strong and doing romantic gestures and showing consisten signs they clearly want to date you and then disappear and reappear without a valid explanation (I was kidnapped by ISIS) he doesn't deserve another explanation. He has issues, and I am not about to stick around to find out what they are. Good riddance. It just sucks for you because two or three months in you may start to develop feelings. No wonder everyone is so guarded and jaded... Edited August 21, 2016 by Sunkissedpatio 1
Author ShyLove Posted August 21, 2016 Author Posted August 21, 2016 No wonder everyone is so guarded and jaded... I agree with this. It sucks to actually have to date with a wall up and to have to question if every sweet gesture is sincere rather than just enjoying the sweetness and feeling all soft and fuzzy inside. Just plain sad lol Thank you for your words. I am getting better at not taking it personal but I do still have moments where its not so easy.
Sunkissedpatio Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 I agree with this. It sucks to actually have to date with a wall up and to have to question if every sweet gesture is sincere rather than just enjoying the sweetness and feeling all soft and fuzzy inside. Just plain sad lol Thank you for your words. I am getting better at not taking it personal but I do still have moments where its not so easy. SO sad! That is such a great point Shylove. It becomes so difficult to tell the genuine guys from the creeps and sometimes the good ones end up paying the price. 1
Dis Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) Hahah OMG I could have written this myself Disillusionment Yes yes yesss!! I went on there a month ago was on there for a weekend and left running horrified for the very same reasons you listed. I guess all the guys in and around my age are the ones hitting on women your age, and imagine what you saw but at age 50- 60 yikes!! That's what I got. And I get it that the older you get the harder it gets but c'mon! That was a bad move on my part it ended up spiralling me back into "miss the ex like crazy" mode. You want to rehash a bad ex relationship? Go on Match.com Well thanks for the tip Disillusionment, I was thinking somewhere down the line in the distant future if I do go back to OLD to try e-Harms or Elite Professionals something a little more upscale but i am sure it is all the same crap.. Omg! The bold print!!! I know right?! Match was so terrible it had me missing my ex...who cheated on me! Thats just sad lol Oh the sad sad realities of OLD You could try e-harmoney or elite. But like you said...they're probably the same deal I dont want to be a huge negative nancy about OLD though. I'm well aware of how tedious, pain staking, annoying, frustrating, and depressing it is...but I do feel that if we are patient and just hold onto some hope....meeting the right guy is possible. I've heard of lots of people who met their SO online...it happens...we need to remember that despite how hard it is...it might be well worth it I've had a year from H*LL as far as OLD goes.....it was awful. 6/9/16 was one year to the day I broke up with my ex....and it was also the day I walked in on my new bf with another woman. I had 3 other short term relationships and lots of dates that didnt pan out. OLD did a number on me but I refuse to give up hope. I know we'll all find someone on OLD or IRL. It's just going to take time...but meanwhile we can all come on LS and b*tch about how terrible it is lol For now..I'm detoxing from this toxic year of OLD Edited August 21, 2016 by Disillusionment373 1
deep_night Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 i think the best way to go about this is to think what your wishes are concerning OLD and how YOU behave and want to be treated. and then decide. for instance, im the kind of person that pays attention to one person at a time. while im dating them i dont pay attention to others. this may last for days or for months. and i expect the same, as mutidating is one of the things i cant bring myself to accept.
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