Oh my.. Dating really is tough.

August 3, 2016

So I asked out one of my friends a few months ago after having a huge crush for about 5 months(i've known him for about 5 years.. same friendship group. He has liked me for a while and did try a few years ago but I wasn't keen. I always chased the losers). At first I struggled to feel much for this guy(as you can probably see by previous post), but i pushed through for once and I got there. By the end I couldn't stop thinking about him. By date 3 I invited him over and cooked for him. It was a really great night and we got on like a house on fire. laughed and talked till 2am. We made out but that was it. As he left he said we would have to do something next week before he starts his night shift(he works long long hours as a sparky). He said he would cook for me.

This is when things got weird.

The next day I received two snapchats that were meant for his brother.

The first one said "yeah, but I didn't get a root out of her" (very aussie slang for sex)

the second one was about 15 minutes later and said "Yeah, I tried. She just wasn't up for it. No biggie"

I immediately felt sick as im sure he did too. I text him about it and he basically lied. He said he was talking about something else.

I told him it was fine. I understand blah blah but added in as a joke.. "good to know you're trying to 'root' other girls i guess :confused:"

I knew he wasn't. I was just poking fun at him for lying and digging himself a bigger hole as clearly it WAS about me. He went into defence mode and was all sentence full stop. Lots of full stops. He said he is not seeing anyone else. He is not cut out for that crap. You have to trust me more than that.

I was like whooaaaa... chill. I told him it was all good. So I saw this as a good opportunity to open up. I told him I don't have a great track record as men have only ever wanted me for one thing and that he can see how i was a little skeptical. Then I told him the reason i asked him out was because i knew he was one of the genuine guys. Good to know we are both terrible at playing the field. Made a joke to lighten the mood a bit. Also threw in the reason I didn't have sex was because i tread a lot more carefully now.

Then i get this weird message. Saying he hasn't been with anyone since his ex two years ago, and even now he doesn't know what he wants, but that is why you date in his perspective. Then explained how dating works. I don't know where that came from but he changed from then on. I got a little worried he was setting me up for a possible ending.

I messaged him again later that week to work out another date and he invited me over the next night and cooked for me.

By this stage, the dynamics had totally changed. I no longer felt carefree and comfortable. He was less talkative. I found I was holding my tongue more and was just constant verbal diarrhoea. We didn't click at all that night. In the end we started making out again. Even that felt weird. Then he started pushing for sex. I stuck to my guns as it didn't feel right. He wasn't forceful at all but I could tell he was rlly up for it. Kept asking me to stay the night. Then asked why i didn't want too. Just looked like a sad horny little puppy. I left and he didn't even walk me to my car.

I knew something was off. I'd made a lot of effort so left it there. If he wanted he could contact me. 4 days later I get a text and by this stage i was feeling very anxious as I was quite into him. He basically ended it and said he doesn't feel the same. He is glad nothing happened as he would have felt like a huge di*k. Im really 'pretty' but spark isn't there for him. My heart sank. Felt like a dagger to the chest. I could barely breathe. It was awful. I was sooo thankful that he was honest with me. I told him that I agreed and that i felt the same (even though it was a lie, but i was embarrassed. We are in the same friendship group and the whole group knows my history. I just didn't want to look like the sad desperate girl that can't seem to find anyone. Even with a guy who liked me for years)

I then told him that if he ever makes it awkward, he'll be in trouble and we had a laugh.

I feel much better today. Almost completely fine just a bit flat. All my experiences whilst dating has made me so much stronger and I am so thankful for that. I know what I want but just can't seem to find it or pin anyone down. People want me for my pretty face or my body. No one seems to want me for me (personality and all) and I know that will eventually come. But seriously... What the hell happened. Everything changed when he accidentally snapchatted me and called me a root I should have dumped his butt then and there. Never even got an apology. He is 24 and I am 26.. I feel it was a maturity problem on his end as I know what I want. Or maybe he just wasn't into me from the start. But I am moving on.

Edited August 3, 2016 by ashy555

August 3, 2016

I would have behaved like I never even got those snapchats and never discussed them with him. And if he asked I would have said - I dunno what he is talking about ... LOL

August 3, 2016

I would have behaved like I never even got those snapchats and never discussed them with him. And if he asked I would have said - I dunno what he is talking about ... LOL

I thought about it haha... Would have been the big elephant in the room. Although I felt a little betrayed by it, so needed to say something. Being called a 'root' is quite disgusting really that he was talking about me in that way. Probably to all his friends too.

August 3, 2016

This is when things got weird.
The next day I received two snapchats that were meant for his brother.
The first one said "yeah, but I didn't get a root out of her" (very aussie slang for sex)
the second one was about 15 minutes later and said "Yeah, I tried. She just wasn't up for it. No biggie"

I'm not going to say you scared off a keeper, but what he said was harmless within context. That's the way 24 year old guys talk to each other. Talking that way is more about his insecurity about being masculine than how he views you. It actually sounded like he was really into you. It's unfortunate things played out the way they did. I could see how it got totally awkward in a hurry. Next time something like that happens, I would downplay it or not mention it at all if you really like the guy.

August 3, 2016

I thought about it haha... Would have been the big elephant in the room. Although I felt a little betrayed by it, so needed to say something. Being called a 'root' is quite disgusting really that he was talking about me in that way. Probably to all his friends too.

Men talk like that with other men. Its how they are. Obviously the first thing a guy would want to know is whether his buddy (or brother in this case) got to have sex... LOL just be cool about such stuff in future... and dont try to interpret what guys talk and why they talk that way....

August 3, 2016

WTF.....

HIGH SCHOOL boys, don't you mean?

And moreover - men who are INTO a girl most certainly DO NOT kiss and tell.

They tell their "mates" about the girls they are not that into. Any man who respects a woman and is falling/has fallen in love, will value her privacy enough to ... not go telling his buddies about you love making. Or "rooting":sick:

True story.

Real men who respect women and actually feel super into a girl, will NOT do as this jerk did.

August 3, 2016

I'm not going to say you scared off a keeper, but what he said was harmless within context. That's the way 24 year old guys talk to each other. Talking that way is more about his insecurity about being masculine than how he views you. It actually sounded like he was really into you. It's unfortunate things played out the way they did. I could see how it got totally awkward in a hurry. Next time something like that happens, I would downplay it or not mention it at all if you really like the guy.

That is what i mean. I got quite a shock at first as it wasn't meant for me and i told him I understand that is how men talk to each other. I said it was all good and made jokes etc. I just wanted to talk about it before it got super awkward(for him. I was actually embarrassed for him). I would imagine he realised and had a heart attack lol. I said at the end how I thought it was actually quite funny with that monkey face covering his mouth. I was so cool about it. But he got so defensive and serious. It was so bizarre. The only reason I said it was 'good to know he was trying to root other girls'..was because he lied lol but he obviously took it way out of context.(thats why i hate texts)

I explained to him that's not what i meant and he said he knew that. All he had to do was own it. I just didn't want him feeling weird about it.

Damn... If only I had not said that. He should have known by now that im not a jealous crazy

August 3, 2016

WTF.....

HIGH SCHOOL boys, don't you mean?

And moreover - men who are INTO a girl most certainly DO NOT kiss and tell.

They tell their "mates" about the girls they are not that into. Any man who respects a woman and is falling/has fallen in love, will value her privacy enough to ... not go telling his buddies about you love making. Or "rooting":sick:

True story.

Real men who respect women and actually feel super into a girl, will NOT do as this jerk did.

He actually did not tell anything. Maybe he would have given the same answer if he did have sex with her as well.

August 3, 2016

But yeah... I guess if it was something as simple as that, then its probably for the best anyway. Just a huge shame as it kind of ruined the mood of our next date. I felt we were both quite reserved. I felt more insecure after his comments so I couldn't be myself. He wasn't flirty at all till the end.

I could analyse and over analyse but he ended it so.. not much I can do.

August 3, 2016

I always chased the losers

Maybe you still do.

He was trying to brag about getting a chance to score and stupidly sent the message to you (he's an idiot). You called him out on it and he got so defensive he turned it around on you (he's a manipulator). You felt so desperate that you let him walk on you by pretending to be cool with it (that's an issue with you). Then you reached out to him for a date (he shows lack of interest). Then he was desperate for sex (dog).

edit: Oh, then he broke up with you after not getting any.

Sounds like a loser to me.

August 3, 2016

WTF.....

HIGH SCHOOL boys, don't you mean?

And moreover - men who are INTO a girl most certainly DO NOT kiss and tell.

They tell their "mates" about the girls they are not that into. Any man who respects a woman and is falling/has fallen in love, will value her privacy enough to ... not go telling his buddies about you love making. Or "rooting":sick:

True story.

Real men who respect women and actually feel super into a girl, will NOT do as this jerk did.

No, pretty, much all guys do this. If your man says he doesn't, hates guys like that, would never disrespect you like that...he is lying.

It's how guys interact with friends and brothers. It's more just talk than anything we analyze or think about or say to make an actual statement. Just bs talk basically, fluff. We don't spend time talking about where we went, what we talked about, how much we are alike, what our feelings were...our friend just asks, "You nail her?" We answer, "Wanna see the pictures?", convo over.

Now where this guy sounds like a complete ass is when he got caught he got defensive. Most guys would be like, "Sh*t. I am sorry, I'm a POS, I'll take responsibility for that." This girl sounds like she handled it awesome, he was too embarrassed to overcome his mistake and bailed.

August 3, 2016

No, pretty, much all guys do this. If your man says he doesn't, hates guys like that, would never disrespect you like that...he is lying.

It's how guys interact with friends and brothers. It's more just talk than anything we analyze or think about or say to make an actual statement. Just bs talk basically, fluff. We don't spend time talking about where we went, what we talked about, how much we are alike, what our feelings were...our friend just asks, "You nail her?" We answer, "Wanna see the pictures?", convo over.

Now where this guy sounds like a complete ass is when he got caught he got defensive. Most guys would be like, "Sh*t. I am sorry, I'm a POS, I'll take responsibility for that." This girl sounds like she handled it awesome, he was too embarrassed to overcome his mistake and bailed.

Wow just because you're like that does not mean that all men are. I've had so many close male friends throughout my life I've actually had very few close female friends. Some of my male friends speak this way to each other (more douchey less mature and respectful men) this way and some didn't and I know for sure several other guys not in my main friendship social circle do not act this way. OP, some men are like this and some men aren't. You sound young and you need to start raising your standards. Don't buy into this "boys-will-be-boys" bullcrap. I agree wholeheartedly with the person above me who responded with all the douchey behaviours he showed and how you should have walked away earlier.

August 3, 2016

Maybe you still do.

He was trying to brag about getting a chance to score and stupidly sent the message to you (he's an idiot). You called him out on it and he got so defensive he turned it around on you (he's a manipulator). You felt so desperate that you let him walk on you by pretending to be cool with it (that's an issue with you). Then you reached out to him for a date (he shows lack of interest). Then he was desperate for sex (dog).

edit: Oh, then he broke up with you after not getting any.

Sounds like a loser to me.

This 100%. Don't let anyone tell you this behavior is normal for men. He showed you very clearly the kind of person he is. I was even more dumb when I was younger and got into relationship with these kind of men. Guess what kind of boyfriends they made?

August 4, 2016

wow... Thanks for all your insights.

You're right, I am only 26 so I guess I still got lots to learn.

It actually didn't really bother me much of what he said. I wasn't 'pretending' as someone said. BUT that is why i called him out on it as I don't want to be the pushover anymore. I've been so naive and stupid in the past. I know some men never grow up but I think I'll start looking for a little older.

Maybe he was just after sex. I just never saw him as that 'guy' i guess as I have known him for a while. From what I can remember I think he has only ever slept with one girl before. I am so happy I never gave it to him. Things were going so well. Considering he liked me for so long, he barely even gave us a chance to feel that spark. I did see him as a little dickish. Not the gentleman I am after.

August 4, 2016

Ashy, I completely understand every bit of what happened here. Knowing his background, at least if he's telling the truth, having not been with a woman in a couple of years, and he was doing that thing guys swear they don't do which is tell their most intimate things to their friends. Like you, I would forgive him for that. It wasn't that bad. It was just kidding around with a friend while letting them know you didn't get laid. So not a big deal. (although a man would go through the roof if they caught you talking like that to your girlfriend, which of course nearly all of us do)

But unfortunately the awkwardness of the situation would have spoiled it.

His first statement about you date to find out if you like someone (that's how I interpreted it) is true and realistic, so I liked him for that. You don't date because you think you'll marry this person. It's just a date to get to know the person.

But in the end, it's another story of if it were going to happen and work out, it probably would have happened a long time ago. There just wasn't enough attraction and it fizzled, and then letting it go was a relief because of "the incident."

But please do not despair! This is your "worst date ever" story to retell to all your friends and your friends grandkids, to the grave. And believe me, once you get older, you are grateful for all the humorous stories of your youth.

August 4, 2016

Wow just because you're like that does not mean that all men are. I've had so many close male friends throughout my life I've actually had very few close female friends. Some of my male friends speak this way to each other (more douchey less mature and respectful men) this way and some didn't and I know for sure several other guys not in my main friendship social circle do not act this way. OP, some men are like this and some men aren't. You sound young and you need to start raising your standards. Don't buy into this "boys-will-be-boys" bullcrap. I agree wholeheartedly with the person above me who responded with all the douchey behaviours he showed and how you should have walked away earlier.

Yeah, no, all guys ARE like this. They will not joke in the same way with you. They talk like that when you are not there. The same as I wouldn't be so bold as to pretend I have any idea about female friendships, it's silly to think you have the inside track of how guys are.

It's like a sports reporter talking about locker room chemistry and the nuances of the clubhouse dynamic...they actually have no idea unless they are part of the team. You are not part of the team and all guys talk like this.

As far as being young, that just shows how far off you are in your guess at how men act with friends and other guys. The older and married guys are usually the biggest pervs. They are the ones asking if you got laid, they are trying to live vicariously through you.

August 4, 2016

Yeah, no, all guys ARE like this. They will not joke in the same way with you. They talk like that when you are not there. The same as I wouldn't be so bold as to pretend I have any idea about female friendships, it's silly to think you have the inside track of how guys are.

It's like a sports reporter talking about locker room chemistry and the nuances of the clubhouse dynamic...they actually have no idea unless they are part of the team. You are not part of the team and all guys talk like this.

As far as being young, that just shows how far off you are in your guess at how men act with friends and other guys. The older and married guys are usually the biggest pervs. They are the ones asking if you got laid, they are trying to live vicariously through you.

Nope my guy friends very clearly do not talk to each other this way. I have many guy friends that are extremely comfortable with me and they will talk with each other like I am not there. They do not do this. In fact many of my guy friends have specifically stated they prefer to not talk about their sex lives with their girlfriends with other people and that it is personal. I have a few times made comments about guys I've dated sexually, very vague and positive comments such as "the physical aspect of our relationship is good "and they do not engage me when I do that nor say similar things . Sounds like you can't be told that you're wrong because I know several guys that don't do this crap. Maybe you should start growing up? I also find it hilarious how you say all guys like you're making this huge generalization and you know every single guy on this planet. Also I'm friends with younger guys and several older closer to my age but slightly older married couples that I'm friends with. All of these couples I'm friends with both of them the husband and the wife because I met them when I was younger in college and I'm equally close with both of them. I have a couple friends that I've been vacationing with for over 7 years and I'm friends with both of them. They are not the biggest pervs in fact I'd say they are the more mature ones. You sound young and lacking in experience. The original posters man sounds young and kinda douchey. That is fine if not the kind of guy she wants but it sounds like she is not fine with that she sounds mature for her age I would recommend that she date someone older and more mature. Or guys her own age who are mature but those will be limited

Edited August 4, 2016 by jazzyhands89

August 5, 2016

I crushed on this guy for months before I asked him out. That gave me so much time to fantasize about how it may work out etc which is why i feel so disheartened. My own fault. Couldn't help it though

I went in pretty confident as I knew he had liked me and that's when it was great. As soon as I felt insecure after he told me he didn't know what he wanted and he got all defensive, I felt I couldn't be myself around him and Boom. That was the end. I thought this was totally different. Falling for a friend, and asking him out. It was just so far out of anything I have ever done. He used to always tell me 'Ash, hes a jerk. Forget about him. You deserve so much better'.

He's never been on tinder or online dating. As long as I have known him, he hasn't really dated except for his one 6 month relationship.

He's also from a friendship group who are all settling down and starting to have kids which I saw as a plus. He certainly has never been easily influenced. So I built this image up in my head but he just didn't want to give it a chance. At first I didn't either and I was terrified. I forced myself as I thought he was a catch. I could feel it working but then he just cut the cord.

I try not to take rejection to heart. I try to steer clear of that negative frame of mind. So far I have been ok though, so I'm glad it didn't go further if it wasn't going to work. It's disappointing as I just got to the point where i was wanting to touch him and kiss him all the time. THAT, I gotta shake off :mad:

Maybe its time to start aiming for more mature.

August 5, 2016

Nope my guy friends very clearly do not talk to each other this way. I have many guy friends that are extremely comfortable with me and they will talk with each other like I am not there. They do not do this. In fact many of my guy friends have specifically stated they prefer to not talk about their sex lives with their girlfriends with other people and that it is personal. I have a few times made comments about guys I've dated sexually, very vague and positive comments such as "the physical aspect of our relationship is good "and they do not engage me when I do that nor say similar things . Sounds like you can't be told that you're wrong because I know several guys that don't do this crap. Maybe you should start growing up? I also find it hilarious how you say all guys like you're making this huge generalization and you know every single guy on this planet. Also I'm friends with younger guys and several older closer to my age but slightly older married couples that I'm friends with. All of these couples I'm friends with both of them the husband and the wife because I met them when I was younger in college and I'm equally close with both of them. I have a couple friends that I've been vacationing with for over 7 years and I'm friends with both of them. They are not the biggest pervs in fact I'd say they are the more mature ones. You sound young and lacking in experience. The original posters man sounds young and kinda douchey. That is fine if not the kind of guy she wants but it sounds like she is not fine with that she sounds mature for her age I would recommend that she date someone older and more mature. Or guys her own age who are mature but those will be limited

For one, this guy was a date. Talking about a serious gf or wife is a bit different. Do you really think that guys are going to admit to you, "Yeah we talk about that stuff all the time!.".

First question asked by most friends for a guy that goes on a date is, "Did you get some?". It has nothing to do with immaturity, it's how guys interact. It's more about giving the guy a hard time than actual meaningful conversation.

I find it hilarious a woman that has "guy friends" thinks she is an expert on how guys are when amongst friends. You can pretend your guy friends are enlightened and above that, I assure you they are not. To a man every one of them has relayed if they have "gotten some" to another friend regarding a first or second date at some point.

But what do I know, I'm just a guy with guy friends, why would I know what really happens behind closed doors and how guys joke and communicate and that women and men that are friends interact differently than guys? You obviously know the inside scoop because a handful of guy friends don't act like that in front of you.

August 5, 2016

For one, this guy was a date. Talking about a serious gf or wife is a bit different. Do you really think that guys are going to admit to you, "Yeah we talk about that stuff all the time!.".

First question asked by most friends for a guy that goes on a date is, "Did you get some?". It has nothing to do with immaturity, it's how guys interact. It's more about giving the guy a hard time than actual meaningful conversation.

I find it hilarious a woman that has "guy friends" thinks she is an expert on how guys are when amongst friends. You can pretend your guy friends are enlightened and above that, I assure you they are not. To a man every one of them has relayed if they have "gotten some" to another friend regarding a first or second date at some point.

But what do I know, I'm just a guy with guy friends, why would I know what really happens behind closed doors and how guys joke and communicate and that women and men that are friends interact differently than guys? You obviously know the inside scoop because a handful of guy friends don't act like that in front of you.

By pure logic alone, I am going to side with Jazzyhands.

There are always going to be SOME people who don't do this or that.

When you generalize and say that ALL men are a certain way, you will always be wrong. There is so much variability among humans.

It might be the norm for guys to talk like that in western society, and perhaps men who don't talk like that are outliers. But this doesn't change the fact that it is statistically probable that they do exist. And if someone wants to aim for an outlier, there is nothing wrong with that.

OP, in the future, the next time a guy says he doesn't know what he wants, I'd next him, or at the very least, let him show me his interest by asking ME out. You don't need wishy washy when you know what you want.

August 5, 2016

Somewhat off topic , OP, do not tell new men you'll date that other men only wanted you for sex of that other men in the past treated to bad. There is a strange phenomenon in human psychology that make the victim appear tainted. Don't ever say that again. You can share more later but only after to are sure of his live and loyalty. Also do not tell men that you slept with guys who used you and now you don't want to sleep with him because you want to be more careful blah blah Just say you only sleep with men to are in a relationship with. Your reasons for that don't need to be disclosed .

Sorry about the typos. I'm not good on the phone.

August 5, 2016

Somewhat off topic , OP, do not tell new men you'll date that other men only wanted you for sex of that other men in the past treated to bad. There is a strange phenomenon in human psychology that make the victim appear tainted. Don't ever say that again. You can share more later but only after to are sure of his live and loyalty. Also do not tell men that you slept with guys who used you and now you don't want to sleep with him because you want to be more careful blah blah Just say you only sleep with men to are in a relationship with. Your reasons for that don't need to be disclosed .

Sorry about the typos. I'm not good on the phone.

Can I get an AMEN?!

I second this post.

August 5, 2016

I crushed on this guy for months before I asked him out. That gave me so much time to fantasize about how it may work out etc which is why i feel so disheartened. My own fault. Couldn't help it though

I went in pretty confident as I knew he had liked me and that's when it was great. As soon as I felt insecure after he told me he didn't know what he wanted and he got all defensive, I felt I couldn't be myself around him and Boom. That was the end. I thought this was totally different. Falling for a friend, and asking him out. It was just so far out of anything I have ever done. He used to always tell me 'Ash, hes a jerk. Forget about him. You deserve so much better'.
He's never been on tinder or online dating. As long as I have known him, he hasn't really dated except for his one 6 month relationship.
He's also from a friendship group who are all settling down and starting to have kids which I saw as a plus. He certainly has never been easily influenced. So I built this image up in my head but he just didn't want to give it a chance. At first I didn't either and I was terrified. I forced myself as I thought he was a catch. I could feel it working but then he just cut the cord.

I try not to take rejection to heart. I try to steer clear of that negative frame of mind. So far I have been ok though, so I'm glad it didn't go further if it wasn't going to work. It's disappointing as I just got to the point where i was wanting to touch him and kiss him all the time. THAT, I gotta shake off :mad:
Maybe its time to start aiming for more mature.

You don't get it. The guy knew you were putting out for 5 years with bad boys and losers. He was willing to take the sloppy seconds and thirds and however manys .... because he was into you that much, biding his time. You had put him in the friend zone for so long, there was no way he could approach you. So he waited for you to finally be attracted to him and let him know you liked him, and you finally did, and he was great with it. Except now you didn't want sex. He waited five years for you, watching/hearing about you banging other guys, and when you finally are interested in him, well, you're going to make him wait because he is a "nice guy" or a "good guy." Well, his view is, if you were willing to screw guys you didn't really like, or who treated you bad, why would you make him -- the "nice guy/good guy" -- wait and wait to have sex. You gave it out easy before, why should he have to wait. And then you brought the whole subject of sex up, rather than just doing it with him, and he realized that you were playing him for a "nice guy" sucker, so he split.

But, it likely all worked out for the best. You weren't really sexually attracted to him, or you'd have had sex with him on the first or second date. Rather, you were in this Disney princess fantasy land you had dreamed up with the supposed "good guy" prince.

Moral of the story: you can try to be a reformed "good girl" now, but don't try it with guys who know your "bad girl" past.

Edited August 5, 2016 by HuskerHomer

August 5, 2016

If you're avoiding telling men you slept with guys that ended up using you because you're worried you're going to be seen as tainted then you need to raise your standards. I've had multiple boyfriends I told the truth about that to. They didn't give a crap or judge me they actually said yeah a lot of guys are like that

Edited August 5, 2016 by jazzyhands89

August 8, 2016

You don't get it. The guy knew you were putting out for 5 years with bad boys and losers. He was willing to take the sloppy seconds and thirds and however manys .... because he was into you that much, biding his time. You had put him in the friend zone for so long, there was no way he could approach you. So he waited for you to finally be attracted to him and let him know you liked him, and you finally did, and he was great with it. Except now you didn't want sex. He waited five years for you, watching/hearing about you banging other guys, and when you finally are interested in him, well, you're going to make him wait because he is a "nice guy" or a "good guy." Well, his view is, if you were willing to screw guys you didn't really like, or who treated you bad, why would you make him -- the "nice guy/good guy" -- wait and wait to have sex. You gave it out easy before, why should he have to wait. And then you brought the whole subject of sex up, rather than just doing it with him, and he realized that you were playing him for a "nice guy" sucker, so he split.

But, it likely all worked out for the best. You weren't really sexually attracted to him, or you'd have had sex with him on the first or second date. Rather, you were in this Disney princess fantasy land you had dreamed up with the supposed "good guy" prince.

Moral of the story: you can try to be a reformed "good girl" now, but don't try it with guys who know your "bad girl" past.

Hahaha I love how you assume I am a 'bad girl' :rolleyes:

This is one of my friends you are talking about who I have known for years. I know him way better than that rubbish you just fed me. He is a decent guy.

I get what you are trying to say and agree to an extent about being in fantasy land, but the rest of it.. crap.

Whats wrong with being a nice guy? Absolutely Nothing. I found him attractive and really.. I always have to an extent, but was always after the wrong men.

I have also never slept with anyone on date one or two. WHY? Because I don't want to as that is not the person I am. So wherever you pulled this ... "I put out for anyone and everyone" crap is beyond me. I am 26 and can count the men I have slept with on one hand. I just haven't found the right guy yet. Yes, I have been very naive in the past, but I am learning. So your comment has little perspective on me. You are just being plain spiteful.

Also... What is so wrong with a bad girl gaining morals and wanting to become a nice self respecting good girl? Absolutely nothing. Get over yourself.

I also never slept with someone I didn't like. Don't know where you pulled that from either..

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