barbossa Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 Successful meaning people who match you actually message you and there's a decent exchange of messages I've had only 1 exchange that just didn't go anywhere.... Just curious to hear other people's results
juniorrocha Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 I haven't tried Tinder after my 2 years RS, but back then I wasn't very successful on it. I had lots of matches, but conversations would often go nowhere. I got to meet some of them, but there was only one who I actually enjoyed meeting. We went out on a few dates, but didn't get serious. She's still my friend nowadays.
Dis Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 I got matched with almost every guy that I swiped "yes/right" to But tinder always felt like a driving fast down an endless strip mall with no brakes...you see a dress you like in the window but you cant stop so you pass it...then you see another one...but you pass that one too It made me dizzy...never again
Weezy1973 Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 I've been on for about 3 weeks. About 35 matches. 20 or so conversations. 3 dates so far. No chemistry yet. Very typical online dating experience regardless of the site for me.
Eternal Sunshine Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 I also get matched with basically any guy I swipe right to. It goes downhill very quickly though. No substance in conversation, not even enough to bother meeting up (in most cases). By far my least favourite dating site. I would love a dating site that just had these stats (verified): age, height, education and occupation/employment status. I don't even need a picture.
Justanaverageguy Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) My experience varied depending on how I was feeling and what I was using tinder for at the time. At different times I've used it for different things. When I first got out of a serious relationship I was using it for some casual fun. Later I transitioned to using it for more serious dates and potential relationship. Other times I've been just seeing whats out their and to be honest sometimes just because I was bored. Was only really interested if someone special jumped out at me. Success rate varied based on this. In terms of getting matches - that was never a problem think I have something like 1600 matches at the moment though obviously didn't message even half of those girls. I also had quite a few who messaged me when I was only sporadically using that I didn't respond to mainly because I simply wasn't checking the app. When I was actively looking and pursuing dates the success ratio in terms of simply getting a date with someone I matched and started chatting with was very high. Pretty close to 100%. You get the odd person that didn't respond or that the chat went no where but mostly if you get a match and start a decent friendly conversation almost all girls wanted to meet. I'm not one for messaging for 3 weeks without meeting. Edited July 19, 2016 by Justanaverageguy
CryForNoOne Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 My experience varied depending on how I was feeling and what I was using tinder for at the time. At different times I've used it for different things. When I first got out of a serious relationship I was using it for some casual fun. Later I transitioned to using it for more serious dates and potential relationship. Other times I've been just seeing whats out their and to be honest sometimes just because I was bored. Was only really interested if someone special jumped out at me. Success rate varied based on this. In terms of getting matches - that was never a problem think I have something like 1600 matches at the moment though obviously didn't message even half of those girls. I also had quite a few who messaged me when I was only sporadically using that I didn't respond to mainly because I simply wasn't checking the app. When I was actively looking and pursuing dates the success ratio in terms of simply getting a date with someone I matched and started chatting with was very high. Pretty close to 100%. You get the odd person that didn't respond or that the chat went no where but mostly if you get a match and start a decent friendly conversation almost all girls wanted to meet. I'm not one for messaging for 3 weeks without meeting. 1600 matches? Seriously??? And you call yourself Justanaverageguy... WTF!!! I found Tinder to be almost a complete ****ing waste of time. Swipe right hundreds of times for a handful of matches and then 1 in 10 result in a meaningful conversation. I had 1 date that turned into casual sex for 2 months then recently ended. All in all I thought it was a major waste of time. Since we ended things I last Wednesday, I've gone out 3 times, had meaningful conversations with 5 different girls, got 3 numbers, and 2 dates just going to bars. Tinder is a total waste of time for guys unless you are the top 5% in physical attractiveness... 1
Justanaverageguy Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) 1600 matches? Seriously??? And you call yourself Justanaverageguy... WTF!!! I found Tinder to be almost a complete ****ing waste of time. Swipe right hundreds of times for a handful of matches and then 1 in 10 result in a meaningful conversation. I had 1 date that turned into casual sex for 2 months then recently ended. All in all I thought it was a major waste of time. Since we ended things I last Wednesday, I've gone out 3 times, had meaningful conversations with 5 different girls, got 3 numbers, and 2 dates just going to bars. Tinder is a total waste of time for guys unless you are the top 5% in physical attractiveness... I'm not the top 5% in physical attractiveness. I'm a decent looking guy but I'm certainly no male model. When I first went on tinder 2 years ago - I struggled a little to get many matches like quite a few guys say they do. I just figured out what works on a profile to get a swipe right. I think most guys are so bad at actually creating a profile. I've seen some of the guys profiles and they are horrible. They don't look like real people they look like they tried to put together some sort of bizarre amateur model shoot. For me dating on tinder is really no different to dating in the real world. If you treat it that way you get similar results. Put something real, be a real human being and have a decent conversation and girls love it. Just be a bit fun on the chat without being a sleaze. Probably that applies more for my age bracket which is mid to late 20's-mid 30's. If your are early 20's the picture with your shirt off and a fast car might actually be more effective. Getting a match and a date on tinder I found pretty easy. If you are looking for something serious finding someone your really connect with once you get the date is the same challenge as in the real world. Edited July 19, 2016 by Justanaverageguy
Eternal Sunshine Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 Lots of guys on tinder try too hard to look seductive or pose and it just makes them look creepy and weird. I find it really suprising how much men don't understand what women really want and the whole PUA community only exarcebetes the problem. 2
insert_name Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 I'm not the top 5% in physical attractiveness. I'm a decent looking guy but I'm certainly no male model. When I first went on tinder 2 years ago - I struggled a little to get many matches like quite a few guys say they do. I just figured out what works on a profile to get a swipe right. I think most guys are so bad at actually creating a profile. I've seen some of the guys profiles and they are horrible. They don't look like real people they look like they tried to put together some sort of bizarre amateur model shoot. For me dating on tinder is really no different to dating in the real world. If you treat it that way you get similar results. Put something real, be a real human being and have a decent conversation and girls love it. Just be a bit fun on the chat without being a sleaze. Probably that applies more for my age bracket which is mid to late 20's-mid 30's. If your are early 20's the picture with your shirt off and a fast car might actually be more effective. Getting a match and a date on tinder I found pretty easy. If you are looking for something serious finding someone your really connect with once you get the date is the same challenge as in the real world. Could you describe what profile pics you used? Ie, how many pics, what were they of and what order? Were any selfies? To get to the point of 100% number closing is actually way way above average. The results of a study of dating app data have just been revealed (they wouldn't give the name of the app but it was a swipe right, swipe left on profile pic type app) and it transpires that around 48% of interactions was a single message that yielded no response! And only around 20% of interactions got to the point where a phone number was exchanged. So yeah, what you have managed is positively not the average experience at all! On the subject of picture choice, I was reading an article by someone who had a development copy of the latest Tinder version that was being tested in Australia- it allowed you to only see the most popular profiles and the most popular profiles were are all using model-esque profile pics. I have a model-esque black and white pic and I can't decide whether to use it as a main profile pic on Tinder. I used it as my main pic on Bumble to test it out and went from getting no matches with my 'normal every day guy' pics to getting 10 matches in an hour. No conversations though which seems to be typical of Bumble. The algorithm soon caught up with me and I was unable to test further. I want to test it on Tinder but given how the algorithm there can screw with you I am in two minds about whether to use it, your post makes me think it was a bad idea yet the matches on Bumble suggest it might be worthwhile? I guess the only conclusion to draw is that some things will work for some people and won't work for others whereas some girls will like a certain profile picture theme while others won't. The question has to be not 'how many women are you matching with?' but rather, 'what sort of women do you want to match with?'.
joseb Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 Could you describe what profile pics you used? Ie, how many pics, what were they of and what order? Were any selfies? To get to the point of 100% number closing is actually way way above average. The results of a study of dating app data have just been revealed (they wouldn't give the name of the app but it was a swipe right, swipe left on profile pic type app) and it transpires that around 48% of interactions was a single message that yielded no response! And only around 20% of interactions got to the point where a phone number was exchanged. So yeah, what you have managed is positively not the average experience at all! Yeah I would love to hear this too. I'm no adonis, but I reckon I'm better looking than average. No stupid shirtless pics or sleeze, just real life pics. Short profile (Ive tried various things). I'd say I match about 1 in 50 tops of my swipes, maybe less. Ladies, if you are matching most of your swipes, but still not having success, you are doing something very wrong. Either you are swiping right way too much, not giving guys a chance, or something else. Of the few matches I do get, most result in decent conversations, and about 1/3 end up in meets.
Justanaverageguy Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) Could you describe what profile pics you used? Ie, how many pics, what were they of and what order? Were any selfies? To get to the point of 100% number closing is actually way way above average. The results of a study of dating app data have just been revealed (they wouldn't give the name of the app but it was a swipe right, swipe left on profile pic type app) and it transpires that around 48% of interactions was a single message that yielded no response! And only around 20% of interactions got to the point where a phone number was exchanged. So the 100% I basically said was if I got a match and started a conversation - pretty much all the time I could get to a date. Now my numbers may be skewed slightly due to the following - quite I often pursue girls who text me first. As I get a lot of matches I get enough people directly texting me that I don't have to send out dozens a day to figure out who is actually interested vs those kicking tires. Also my pictures give very easy in's for girls to make simple text comment to me. More then 50% of the initial "hey" messages I get will reference something in my pictures which immediately gives an easy start to a conversation. In my pics I have zero "model" type shots. I have zero selfies. I don't have a single conventional portrait type shot. I also have zero show off type shots (flash car, shirt off, penthouse or expensive hotel suite etc etc). The basis of my photos are simply to show my personality as being fun and hopefully get pics that make me look good at the same time. I have all picture slots used and I do rotate them occasionally. I always lead with a picture of me and my dog. Everyone knows this works and it really does .... but for me its not just a gimmick. I have a dog, love dogs and like girls who have them too. So this actually helps me get likes from girls with similar interests. Also its not just a Vanilla dog picture either. He is a mini dachshund. Not the manliest dog but I got him with my ex and he is an absolute chick magnet. Seriously best wingman ever The photo is me at a pool party lying on an inflatable pool floating with him standing on my chest with his feat propped up on my knees staring out like he is the captain of the ship. You kind of have to see the photo to see how ridiculous it looks and why it works - but it does. I get comments that range from Titanic references all the way to just I would really love to play with your sausage. Other photos are tailored to simply show I'm a guy who likes to have fun. I travel a lot and have some amazing travel photos I use. Again I tend to like girls who are the same so this is not some gimmick. I have picks hiking in Iceland, camping in the Swiss alps, dancing with a leprechaun @ temple bar on St Patties day, Me pretending to wrestle a real sumo on a train in Tokyo, dressed up and dancing on a table at Oktoberfest, me skiing down a mountain dressed in a kangaroo outfit etc etc. I might then throw in the odd serious pic so I don't look like a complete clown. Girls will notice looks. But if you have basic looks and also seem like you take yourself too seriously or are just boring as bat **** your probably not going to get many likes. My simple piece of advice is simply to show case your personality and give the impression you are a real person and a fun loving person to hangout with. Seriously it works 10X better then any black and white artsy photo will. Failing that - get a cute dog Edited July 19, 2016 by Justanaverageguy 1
insert_name Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 So the 100% I basically said was if I got a match and started a conversation - pretty much all the time I could get to a date. Now my numbers may be skewed slightly due to the following - quite I often pursue girls who text me first. As I get a lot of matches I get enough people directly texting me that I don't have to send out dozens a day to figure out who is actually interested vs those kicking tires. Also my pictures give very easy in's for girls to make simple text comment to me. More then 50% of the initial "hey" messages I get will reference something in my pictures which immediately gives an easy start to a conversation. In my pics I have zero "model" type shots. I have zero selfies. I don't have a single conventional portrait type shot. I also have zero show off type shots (flash car, shirt off, penthouse or expensive hotel suite etc etc). The basis of my photos are simply to show my personality as being fun and hopefully get pics that make me look good at the same time. I have all picture slots used and I do rotate them occasionally. I always lead with a picture of me and my dog. Everyone knows this works and it really does .... but for me its not just a gimmick. I have a dog, love dogs and like girls who have them too. So this actually helps me get likes from girls with similar interests. Also its not just a Vanilla dog picture either. He is a mini dachshund. Not the manliest dog but I got him with my ex and he is an absolute chick magnet. Seriously best wingman ever The photo is me at a pool party lying on an inflatable pool floating with him standing on my chest with his feat propped up on my knees staring out like he is the captain of the ship. You kind of have to see the photo to see how ridiculous it looks and why it works - but it does. I get comments that range from Titanic references all the way to just I would really love to play with your sausage. Other photos are tailored to simply show I'm a guy who likes to have fun. I travel a lot and have some amazing travel photos I use. Again I tend to like girls who are the same so this is not some gimmick. I have picks hiking in Iceland, camping in the Swiss alps, dancing with a leprechaun @ temple bar on St Patties day, Me pretending to wrestle a real sumo on a train in Tokyo, dressed up and dancing on a table at Oktoberfest, me skiing down a mountain dressed in a kangaroo outfit etc etc. I might then throw in the odd serious pic so I don't look like a complete clown. Girls will notice looks. But if you have basic looks and also seem like you take yourself too seriously or are just boring as bat **** your probably not going to get many likes. My simple piece of advice is simply to show case your personality and give the impression you are a real person and a fun loving person to hangout with. Seriously it works 10X better then any black and white artsy photo will. Failing that - get a cute dog Thanks for the explanation - I can see why you get the numbers that you do now! A dog pic (bonus points for making it amusing and not just a generic "Look I have a dog!") + pics showing you are well travelled should always do well with women, displaying a fun personality is probably just icing on the cake at that point. Again, looking at averages I wonder how many guy profiles can compete with that? Is that really an average profile? I can only speak for my experience in that it is very hard for me to get pics that aren't selfies or crafted at home using a tripod and camera because my friends just aren't the type to take photos. Despite them being aware of my ongoing OLD 'campaign' they actually get a bit funny with my photo 'whoring' when I ask them to take a picture during comedy moments that might happen out and about. That is the worst part of OLD, worse than the rejection, having to get other people involved to try and get the best pics of me. So emasculating. So yeah, thanks for the explanation and I can really see why it would work for you- it is a useful template for me to aim for but in practice it is going to be hard for me to get a range of pictures like that.
LookAtThisPOst Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 I also get matched with basically any guy I swipe right to. It goes downhill very quickly though. No substance in conversation, not even enough to bother meeting up (in most cases). By far my least favourite dating site. I would love a dating site that just had these stats (verified): age, height, education and occupation/employment status. I don't even need a picture. I haven't even touched Tinder based what I read about it. It just enables the impersonal nature of online dating. I mean, I think regular online dating is bad, I figured Tinder would be 10 x worse.
Cablebandit Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 My cousin-in-law is 31 and CONSTANTLY getting laid from Tinder. He seems to have even better luck on adult friend finder but these are all for hookups. He hasn't found a serious relationship on either yet. He is good looking with a nice body. FYI
Justanaverageguy Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 I can only speak for my experience in that it is very hard for me to get pics that aren't selfies or crafted at home using a tripod and camera because my friends just aren't the type to take photos. Despite them being aware of my ongoing OLD 'campaign' they actually get a bit funny with my photo 'whoring' when I ask them to take a picture during comedy moments that might happen out and about. That is the worst part of OLD, worse than the rejection, having to get other people involved to try and get the best pics of me. So emasculating. I don't think you really want to be trying to "stage" photo's either. The pics I had were just off the back of traveling and having a really good time. I didn't try to get most of the pics they just kind of happen when you put yourself in those situations. Do you travel much ? At the local pub people aren't that likely to want to record your every move. When you are experiencing something new and different with a group people are like snipers and will take photos of anything. Instead of trying to stage a photo - try and stage an event or trip and you will find you end up with a bag full of photos with out specifically staging any of them. 1
joseb Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) In my pics I have zero "model" type shots. I have zero selfies. I don't have a single conventional portrait type shot. I also have zero show off type shots (flash car, shirt off, penthouse or expensive hotel suite etc etc). The basis of my photos are simply to show my personality as being fun and hopefully get pics that make me look good at the same time. I have all picture slots used and I do rotate them occasionally. I always lead with a picture of me and my dog. Everyone knows this works and it really does .... but for me its not just a gimmick. I have a dog, love dogs and like girls who have them too. = Thanks for the feedback. It's interesting. I have very similar pictures - couple of cool travel ones, some sporty ones, some normal ones. I had two different shots with dogs at different times - one rolling around with two puppies and one with my sisters dog. I got told by a couple of women I asked for feedback to take them off as they were way too cliched. Now I'm wondering if they were just jealous or something. So...either I'm overrating my looks (possible) or my verbage is sub-par. Or it's an age thing. Or women in Melbourne just don't like me (I do do much better pretty much anywhere else, I'm thinking this is due to the 'newness' factor...maybe Ive just exhausted all the local possibilities?!) Edited July 19, 2016 by joseb
Justanaverageguy Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 Thanks for the feedback. It's interesting. I have very similar pictures - couple of cool travel ones, some sporty ones, some normal ones. I had two different shots with dogs at different times - one rolling around with two puppies and one with my sisters dog. I got told by a couple of women I asked for feedback to take them off as they were way too cliched. Now I'm wondering if they were just jealous or something. So...either I'm overrating my looks (possible) or my verbage is sub-par. Or it's an age thing. The dog ones I have never gone wrong. When I was playing around with my profile i was traveling a bit and I actually did experiment with dog pic - without dog pic in different cities. The dog made a significant difference to like ratio. I now pay my dog a recruitment fee But seriously I think its about capturing the right thing if you a put a dog in because it can have a tendency to go into gimmicky model\staged territory which is what I try to avoid. Also one other thing I would mention is that my profile attracts specific types of girls. I tend not to do so well with "princess types". I get a lot of attractive girls but they tend to not be the ones with duck face, mirror selfies and with their photos of them all dressed up etc. This suits me perfectly because even though for a casual encounter I would be down for that and when I first used Tinder I was actually targeting that - now looking at something a little more serious I'm not even vaguely interested in girls with these profiles. Again its because they are hot - but appear to be boring as bat **** and into themselves. So my profile is targeted to the girls I'm trying to get and it reflects that. They must love travel, the outdoors, pets, enjoy a drink and a good party .... then good looking but not conceited or overly vain with their looks. That's the very high level template of girls I want to go on dates with. 2
joseb Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 Also one other thing I would mention is that my profile attracts specific types of girls. I tend not to do so well with "princess types". I get a lot of attractive girls but they tend to not be the ones with duck face, mirror selfies and with their photos of them all dressed up etc. This suits me perfectly because even though for a casual encounter I would be down for that and when I first used Tinder I was actually targeting that - now looking at something a little more serious I'm not even vaguely interested in girls with these profiles. Again its because they are hot - but appear to be boring as bat **** and into themselves. Yeah I don't want anything to do with princessy types either, even for more casual stuff - I still need to actually like the person, maybe I'm weird?!
Justanaverageguy Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) Yeah I don't want anything to do with princessy types either, even for more casual stuff - I still need to actually like the person, maybe I'm weird?! No pretty standard I think. I think its pretty normal across the board that even if its a casual hookup thing you want to actually like the person you are sleeping with. I went a bit crazy after coming out of a LTR and targeted basically just hot girls who wanted something casual for a short period. I went a bit crazy with new found freedoms. Only reinforced what I already knew. The thing is some people try to copy these types of profiles when they are aren't a knock out 9 or 10 in the looks department which is just crazy. These people generally get away with having a horrible self absorbed profile simply because they are really good looking. If your not ridiculously good looking and you try to copy this you are wasting your time. Edited July 19, 2016 by Justanaverageguy
insert_name Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 I don't think you really want to be trying to "stage" photo's either. The pics I had were just off the back of traveling and having a really good time. I didn't try to get most of the pics they just kind of happen when you put yourself in those situations. Do you travel much ? At the local pub people aren't that likely to want to record your every move. When you are experiencing something new and different with a group people are like snipers and will take photos of anything. Instead of trying to stage a photo - try and stage an event or trip and you will find you end up with a bag full of photos with out specifically staging any of them. I am doing a bit of travelling round Eastern Europe next year so will definitely be taking advantage of that! For the moment though I only have some recent stills of me in Spain, although they are rather straight forward, 'smile for the camera in a hot climate' sort of shots. Nothing too exciting. I wish there was a better way of testing photos. I am loathe to really experiment too much on things like Tinder because if you experiment too much the algorithm can bury you and pictures that might actually work get no results because you aren't even seen.
insert_name Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 No pretty standard I think. I think its pretty normal across the board that even if its a casual hookup thing you want to actually like the person you are sleeping with. I went a bit crazy after coming out of a LTR and targeted basically just hot girls who wanted something casual for a short period. I went a bit crazy with new found freedoms. Only reinforced what I already knew. The thing is some people try to copy these types of profiles when they are aren't a knock out 9 or 10 in the looks department which is just crazy. These people generally get away with having a horrible self absorbed profile simply because they are really good looking. If your not ridiculously good looking and you try to copy this you are wasting your time. Not sure if this is exactly what you were getting at but I see so many average looking girls who have that classic model pic schtick going on - wear an extravagant dress and stare wistfully into the distance while looking melancholic. I am sometimes put off their profiles because of the amount of model pics they all have. It really feels like even the most average girls out there have done some sort of modelling gig (for friend's college projects or whatever) and like you say it comes off as self-absorbed. Maybe I am being harsh because they are just trying to keep up with everyone else? The problem with Tinder is it can have a tendency to make you keep going to extremes to get that stand out picture so, as you pointed out earlier, people stop becoming 'real'. In fact that is exactly the observation I am making - so many girls whose profiles are full of what look like professionally done pics- nothing seems 'real' about it all. It is a shame.
Eternal Sunshine Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 Averageguy has it right: A pic with a dog (but please be a genuine dog lover) or any pet = A pic with an expensive car = A pic in an expensive hotel = A pic showing off your 6-pack =
LookAtThisPOst Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 Not sure if this is exactly what you were getting at but I see so many average looking girls who have that classic model pic schtick going on - wear an extravagant dress and stare wistfully into the distance while looking melancholic. I am sometimes put off their profiles because of the amount of model pics they all have. It really feels like even the most average girls out there have done some sort of modelling gig (for friend's college projects or whatever) and like you say it comes off as self-absorbed. Maybe I am being harsh because they are just trying to keep up with everyone else? The problem with Tinder is it can have a tendency to make you keep going to extremes to get that stand out picture so, as you pointed out earlier, people stop becoming 'real'. In fact that is exactly the observation I am making - so many girls whose profiles are full of what look like professionally done pics- nothing seems 'real' about it all. It is a shame. I tend to agree. Not to mention the amount of resting B-face pictures I always see posted. Those dead-eyed, dead panned faces across all 7 of their pictures.
insert_name Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 Averageguy has it right: A pic with a dog (but please be a genuine dog lover) or any pet = A pic with an expensive car = A pic in an expensive hotel = A pic showing off your 6-pack = :sick: You say that, the most popular profile in California, possibly the whole US is a guy whose main pic is of him topless, gratuitously showing off his physique with ridiculous abs, wearing a fireman's uniform (well, the bottom half of it anyway!) I think women verbally protest too much about abs shots. It is not everyone's cup of tea granted, but it will get you results.
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