Popsicle Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 I have never tried/done hard drugs and have no desire to, but I recognize the difference between trying out a drug and doing it. I don't mind if someone has tried hard drugs and decided that they don't like it or want to do it again. Plenty of people have done this. I wouldn't like someone who does hard drugs recreationally. I know other people who are like you, OP. They tend to be religious or virgins. (Nothing wrong with that)
Popsicle Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 I can see how it would be difficult to trust a young person (for example, college age) to not do hard drugs again if they have tried them already, as its not so far removed from their past, but it's easier to trust an older person who has tried it a long time ago and it's a distant memory now.
Author PerryK Posted July 12, 2016 Author Posted July 12, 2016 I can see how it would be difficult to trust a young person (for example, college age) to not do hard drugs again if they have tried them already, as its not so far removed from their past, but it's easier to trust an older person who has tried it a long time ago and it's a distant memory now. Far from religious or a virgin type. Some people dont find fat people attractive, some people are chubby chasers. Some people dont like smokers, some people dont like drinkers. Everyone has their type. My problem i do think is that the ages that are in my range now are between 20 and 24, the age thats fresh out of studying where they go for "independence" which is actually to go out and get drugged up all night so they can party till 7am every night. Its like saying you don't find fat people attractive and like skinny. But you live on that ship that was in the Wall-E film and you start to think "maybe i should just settle". I think the support i have off here though to not drop my standards and i will find a perfect match one day has encouraged me to keep looking.
clia Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 Have you tried meeting girls at places other than raves, clubs, and festivals?
crazyquestions11 Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 I've had the same experience as you with trying to find girls in the past who didn't do drugs, and luckily I found my current gf. There are girls out there who will have tried drugs, tried various things, but don't let that completely turn you off from dating them. I'd say as long as they no longer do them or at the very least fit your profile a bit more, then they're a go. Experiences teach people a lot of things and whether to continue or not. Sometimes it's not realistic to expect people to have not tried drugs at one point or another (alcohol is a drug too haha). But if you want to find a girl who hasn't touched drugs at all, there are those out there too, and it just means right now probably isn't the right time anyways to find one. Plenty of fish in the sea!
Author PerryK Posted July 12, 2016 Author Posted July 12, 2016 Have you tried meeting girls at places other than raves, clubs, and festivals? I dont go to raves or festivals. Everybody else does however. HTH.
VeveCakes Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 I know from personal experience with 99% of those in my life that are involved with it, if theyve done it before they have no barriers now to do it again. Ex gf for example, she had done it at university, i told her my 0 tolerance approach and said i accept her past. She had told me she would never do it again, she wouldnt want to lose me over it and we talked about it a few times so it wasnt a one of convo that she forgot. Then she went to visit her friend who was big into it, her friend put out some lines on the table and said "have some" and she did. And when we talked about it she said that shed done it before she doesnt see the big deal. Dabbling with it in your past completely normalizes it, it becomes the "I've done it before, one more won't hurt" no matter how long youve been clean or dont enjoy it. That girl, i broke up with over it and now she uses every day since moving in with that friend. I have had best friends that got heavily into it to the point that they broke into my house and robbed me. And for the bitch telling me to get off my high horse, why the F would i do that to get with someone that is not in any way attractive to me? Thats like saying "im not a lesbian, i'm straight" "get off your high horse and get with girls too". And those telling me to change where i hang out, in this country it is a major issue. It is so normal now to do it because everyone else is. You can't walk through a club without seeing people with their jaws rolling. I was with my brother when he brought some coke and instantly he had 6 girls around him asking for a key. - You get clothes with pictures of alcohol and cocaine on that people are wearing that makes it seem like a normal thing in life. - You have the rise in people going to festivals because with social media it is so well spread out there that everybody now sees it and wants to go. - You have a large rise in the legal rave culture where dealers can walk around with immunity, and clubs close at 3am and these places go till 7am so everyone goes there where drugs are cheaper than the £15 drinks. - People share videos over social media constantly of people in these clubs drugged up embarrassing themselves, but all these kids think its hilarious to behave like that and completely normal now to act like that. We have a culture now where we can see all these videos of people rolling, we celebrate it with clothes making it into a joke, we listen to music where they talk so constantly about using drugs in clubs to make it better, we have social media spreading the festival/rave culture making it look amazing which just draws these people in to drop a bomb and theyre now messed up. And MDMA is the part of ecstasy that damages your brain and its endorphins. Do some research, the deadly part of E is what is mixed in to make it tablet form. MDMA causes depression and anxiety and a high rate of suicide on its come downs and being away from the drug. It also causes the body to lose feelings and can cause massive paranoia when you stop using. All happened to my ex. Well calling someone a bitch on an online forum doesn't make you seem like all that great of a catch yourself... MDMA does not damage your brain. It blocks the reuptake of dopamine... that's all. Pure MDMA can not kill you. Some users may feel a lull or downer after heavy use but it does not cause depression. Your girlfriend would have been depressed from something else. MDMA does not cause paranoia, suicide or the body to lose feelings. Where do you get your research? From your ex? Are you a scientist or psychiatrist? How about you actually study the drug in a clinical setting if you are going to go online and spew all these misfacts simply because YOU had a bad experience with someone who used it. She could have been getting those effects from alcohol, or other drugs. You really seem to hate drug and festival culture but yet are focused on it. I have a lot of friends in Europe and the U.K. And none of them are festival goers. There are plenty who don't live that life. What's your obsession with this? You almost seem jealous or something.
stillafool Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 I refuse to get involved with girls that do or have ever done drugs. It is one thing I will never ever deal with. At my age though, every girl I have met or know get involved. It is this whole generation '18-30', a bump of coke at the pre drinks, some molly in the toilet, an e tab dropped while dancing. It makes me sick and thinking of being involved with a girl that does that stuff disgusts me. But I have found that because of this, the amount of eligible girls is 0. I have had to go for a load of girls who are all into drugs because it is standard and i am the "wierd" one for not being involved. But throughout the whole relationship or dating period, i just think about it 24/7 and it makes me feel awful. Am i too picky? Every girl wants to be the festival girl who drops MD and E's or a line or 2 because everyone else and their mates do it. Every hit song now that everyone plays or is on the radio, or in the club is about drug use. The weeknd, Miley Cyrus, Lana Del Ray, Ty Dollah, Chris Brown, Jay Z ... it is in such a range of music and it is all the family friendly pop songs too, all sing about putting drugs in their drinks to keep them going all night partying and how fun it is. It makes me feel so depressed that something that disgusts me that i don't want to be involved in, is just so prevalent that I will never find a girl that does not get involved and will make me happy. Shall i lower my standards and just put up with it, no matter how much i hate it? You can always come out of the clubs and date church girls.
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