Iamthedragon Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 How come so many today still deny the power of looks? We still often hear so much about confidence, charisma and to be open to attract girls but very seldom are looks mentioned. It it that much of a harsch truth that looks are dominant in attracting women that it is simply overlooked. And some may say that looks are subjective and what one might find attractive another finds unattractive, but let's be real, looks are objective. We all share the same views about good looking guys. Male models are all looking alike. A guy that looks like a young Brad Pitt is attractive to the absolute majority of women around the world.
Gaeta Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 I would not know what to do with Brad Pitt. I don't like blond men. Give me a Benicio Del Toro, a Clive Owen, William Fichtner OMG I am obsessed with William Fichtner and he does not fall in the category of handsome, good looking, hot or what ever. Clive Owen has scares all over his face, Benicio looks like he slept on his face for 100 years, Still these men are attractive to me. Good look IS relative. 1
TXGuy Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 I think the reason looks is discussed less than confidence, charisma, and openess is the fact that those personality traits/behaviors are generally easier to change than looks. Additionally, the changes you can make to looks are pretty straightforward (at least for guys). Get in shape, dress well, keep up your grooming. Aside from that, there isn't much more to talk about. Though I supposed people could go back and forth on clothing styles. Confidence, charisma and openess will help a guy regardless of his looks. A guy can eventually change any or all three of those things, but he cannot change his height or facial structure. There is no question looks matter a lot, but we might as well focus on things we can improve rather than things we cannot 2
katiegrl Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) How come so many today still deny the power of looks? We still often hear so much about confidence, charisma and to be open to attract girls but very seldom are looks mentioned. It it that much of a harsch truth that looks are dominant in attracting women that it is simply overlooked. And some may say that looks are subjective and what one might find attractive another finds unattractive, but let's be real, looks are objective. We all share the same views about good looking guys. Male models are all looking alike. A guy that looks like a young Brad Pitt is attractive to the absolute majority of women around the world. I used to work in NYC in the entertainment industry and was surrounded by male models all day long. Sorry to burst your bubble, but they did (and do) nothing for me. Too "pretty" for me... ugh, no thanks! And while I do agree Brad Pitt is nice looking, he does nothing for me either! He just doesn't have that certain somethin that turns me on, never did, what can I say? I go for the more rugged look... it is really hard to describe what turns me on.... but when I see it (or him) I know it! So for ME, looks/physical attraction IS very much personal and subjective. Edited July 6, 2016 by katiegrl 3
SwordofFlame Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 It's because what women evaluate the most is your height and your face. You can't really change either. As long as you're not obese, putting on a good amount of muscle and getting a six pack won't really help that much with most women. 1
Grewd Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 I deny the power of looks because it doesn't actually have that much power. I don't mean everyone should look like they just woke up in the morning, but trying to look like a model is excessive. Most people are within the range of looking good, at which point looks isn't a determining factor. There's also a bunch of people who are well within that range but lack confidence they look good, their insecurity shines through in how they behave and talk which ruins their attractiveness. I was recently at a festival with 30k other people, I actually sampled how many I thought was good looking and who I'd believe would have difficulty over their looks. I didn't find many bad looking people there. In that environment at least, good looks wouldn't help anyone because most looked good. In my experience very pretty people often believe they look bad. That is the entire reason they look so good, they obsess about their looks thinking it's never good enough which makes them put in a great deal of effort trying to look good. The sad side of this is that no matter how pretty they look they never have any real confidence, which is a major turn off. All these people would have to do is calm down and be happy about their looks, it would take their attractiveness up to sky high levels. Sometimes I can spot these type of people, they end up on the unattractive side looks wise. Not because they don't do anything about their looks, but because they do too much. They have a thick layer of make-up or extreme styles of what is commonly said to look good, I just think it looks unnatural and weird. You can just tell they're scared to death of not looking good enough by the way they over-compensate.
katiegrl Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 It's because what women evaluate the most is your height and your face. You can't really change either. As long as you're not obese, putting on a good amount of muscle and getting a six pack won't really help that much with most women. I don't care about height so much, but yeah I do care about face. But all I require is that he be good looking to me. I have dated guys who were not good looking to the masses (did nothing for my friends), but I thought he was gorgeous! Why? Because we shared a mutual chemistry, and when that's going on, a man who may not be all that attractive to others suddenly becomes the hottest guy in the world, to me. It is so hard to explain, I don't even have a type! Course my ex was HOT to every woman he came into contact with, but that is not why I fell for him. He just had that certain somethin... that went way beyond looks.
preraph Posted July 7, 2016 Posted July 7, 2016 Looks totally rule on OLD, no doubt about that. Most people don't even read the profile thoroughly, just a glance if that. But no, not all people think the same men are attractive. I am not into Brad Pitt types either, nor do I think big muscled althletic hulks are at all attractive. I don't even mostly think short haired guys are attractive, but there have been some exceptions to that. I don't like guys who look too stiff and straight or corporate either. But online dating sites, looks is about all you have to really go by and that's assuming the photos are recent and not photoshopped.
Bantosm Posted July 7, 2016 Posted July 7, 2016 I would not know what to do with Brad Pitt. I don't like blond men. You wouldn't date someone solely because of their hair color.
neowulf Posted July 7, 2016 Posted July 7, 2016 How come so many today still deny the power of looks? We still often hear so much about confidence, charisma and to be open to attract girls but very seldom are looks mentioned. It it that much of a harsch truth that looks are dominant in attracting women that it is simply overlooked. And some may say that looks are subjective and what one might find attractive another finds unattractive, but let's be real, looks are objective. We all share the same views about good looking guys. Male models are all looking alike. A guy that looks like a young Brad Pitt is attractive to the absolute majority of women around the world. This top has been done over and over again. Science has actually done studies on it. Men are more visual than women. *MEN* are prone to noticing looks first, everything else second. They're biologically predisposed to wanting pretty, young, hot mates. Women notice *STATUS*. That comes in the form of nice clothes, body language, confidence, access to resources. Signs of strength and status. These things matter *more* to women than simply looks. Really, people get seriously wound up over preferences we as a species didn't get a say in. It's baked in. At birth. Personally I think Men get the far easier end of the bargain. My girlfriend thinks I'm handsome as hell to hear her tell it, but I'm nothing special believe me
Leigh 87 Posted July 7, 2016 Posted July 7, 2016 I don't care about height so much, but yeah I do care about face. But all I require is that he be good looking to me. I have dated guys who were not good looking to the masses (did nothing for my friends), but I thought he was gorgeous! Why? Because we shared a mutual chemistry, and when that's going on, a man who may not be all that attractive to others suddenly becomes the hottest guy in the world, to me. It is so hard to explain, I don't even have a type! Course my ex was HOT to every woman he came into contact with, but that is not why I fell for him. He just had that certain somethin... that went way beyond looks. Ditto! The men that made me the hottest were ALL... repeat, ALL..... men who were the least attractive by societal and hollywood standards...... I had a super attractive guy or two, who were hot to the masses ( a colgate commercial smile, gym junkies, OOZING charisma).... The latter ... did nothing for me. Go figure. Oh-- and I have been called ugly and plain heaps. Yet just as many men have found me gorgeous and very attractive---- I ALWAYS have men who think I am VERY attractive everytine I go out---- despite the fact I am NOT objectively hot.
frus69 Posted July 7, 2016 Posted July 7, 2016 Everyone is beautiful to someone so there is no point discussing looks.
normal person Posted July 7, 2016 Posted July 7, 2016 I think after age 25 or so, looks alone usually won't cut it. After that age, women won't get that excited or obsess over you the way they used to in high school and college. At that point, if you don't check a few more boxes, they won't be too concerned, you're just another face and there's no urge for them to look too desperate. 2
Leigh 87 Posted July 7, 2016 Posted July 7, 2016 My type? Non fit bald men who rock a shaved head. Tats Blue collar. I DISLIKE: super fit, thin and perfect toothed-- charismatic guys.
katiegrl Posted July 7, 2016 Posted July 7, 2016 Oh-- and I have been called ugly and plain heaps. Yet just as many men have found me gorgeous and very attractive---- I ALWAYS have men who think I am VERY attractive everytine I go out---- despite the fact I am NOT objectively hot. Plain heaps? Is that an Australian expression, never heard that one! lol Anyhoo, you are far from plain heaps IMHO!
Buddhist Posted July 7, 2016 Posted July 7, 2016 How come so many today still deny the power of looks? We still often hear so much about confidence, charisma and to be open to attract girls but very seldom are looks mentioned. Because you're born looking the way you are. Short of surgery you've got the face you've got. It's kind of a moot point to go on about something that cannot for the most part be easily changed. The other things can be changed and do account for a large part of attraction, yes even with women. While looks matter to both genders it is not the only characteristic that determines whether or not someone gets sex/love/affection from another. And some may say that looks are subjective and what one might find attractive another finds unattractive, but let's be real, looks are objective. We all share the same views about good looking guys. Male models are all looking alike. I think your 'objectivity' here needs a reality check. Here's where to start. Log onto a model agency site and actually view the photographs of all the male models. I think you'll find there are a variety on there, some of them look rugged, others angelic and boyish, some even downright ugly but clothes hang on them well and they have an 'interesting' face for photography. And if looks are so objective, and so important then why are more than 1% of the world's male population getting sex with women? Hmmm...something is not adding up. I don't think all those women dating non-models are blind. A guy that looks like a young Brad Pitt is attractive to the absolute majority of women around the world. You may want to get a dictionary here because I very much doubt that Brad Pitt is loved by the majority of women around the world. Absolute means indisputable quantity. Your assertion is very disputable. 1
tinkerbell16 Posted July 7, 2016 Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) Charisma, intelligence, open minded, empathetic, hard working and physically a nice smile is on the top of the list. These are my turn ons. The guys most people think all woman love do nothing for me, Brad, George and the like... nope, nothing. I have dated drop dead gorgeous men... discovered they did not have enough of the above so they didn't last. I can't imagine it is any different for a man... there needs to be more than looks to sustain a relationship. Edited July 7, 2016 by tinkerbell16
Lorenza Posted July 7, 2016 Posted July 7, 2016 I have been attracted to different type of men, some of them were not even near my "type". I like muscular tall guys, with broad shoulders, strong arms, dark hair and kind, but somewhat rough faces. However the guy I had the longest RL with was on the chubby side, very narrow shoulders, blond, soft and round facial features. His personality was irresistable - intelligent, funny and charismatic. I fell in love with him and thought that every woman would want him, even though he wasn't the desirable type and gained a lot of weight while we were together. Then I was also very attracted to a tall thin guy cause of his musical talents, a guy who was shorter than me but so incredibly romantic - the list goes on (those weren't my boyfriends though). Only a very few were actually my type, but it didn't really matter.
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