Do some women lie about wanting a 2nd Date?

[Versacehottie]

Who said I was upset? I'm a pretty confident guy, self assured and I know I have plenty of options.

I started this thread because I'm fascinated by the psychology of these things.

I'm loving these responses, very interesting to see other opinions.

 

Ooops forgot to add, that it surprising that you say you are a pretty confident guy. You didn't come off that way when you told the story of your date and in portions of some of the subsequent posts.

 

I agree as I am fascinated by the psychology of these things. I agree with redhead (welcome back btw!) though that you can maybe deduce some general guidelines but there are no hard and fast rules. Behavior is complex. In dating a pretty basic one is yes of course girls don't want to tell you to your face that they have no interest in a second date OR they don't know for sure and after the date and some thought decide against it. It is easier often enough to just blow the guy off rather than confront it. Some people don't like doing that and some people don't feel an explanation is necessary at all. The action of not returning a text or a call TELLS you they are not interested and they feel that suffices, especially after one date, (from online right? even more so).

[deadparrot]

Honestly, yes. I've lied about wanting a second date (or at least, I've hedged it as a "maybe, I have to check my schedule" type of thing).

 

As a woman, I've been berated and harassed when I've tried to be honest with a guy about not moving forward, and after that experience, when I've had to turn down guys, I've done it by text.

 

I'm sorry if that means I bummed out some genuinely good guys along the way--I've always been very nice/gentle when I decline--but at the end of the day I value my safety over the feelings of a guy I spent one hour with. And by the same token, he only spent an hour with me, so I assume it'd be his pride more than his heart that was wounded.

[Vado]

Honestly, yes. I've lied about wanting a second date (or at least, I've hedged it as a "maybe, I have to check my schedule" type of thing).

 

As a woman, I've been berated and harassed when I've tried to be honest with a guy about not moving forward, and after that experience, when I've had to turn down guys, I've done it by text.

 

I'm sorry if that means I bummed out some genuinely good guys along the way--I've always been very nice/gentle when I decline--but at the end of the day I value my safety over the feelings of a guy I spent one hour with. And by the same token, he only spent an hour with me, so I assume it'd be his pride more than his heart that was wounded.

 

Yeah, you're rifght, but than again, some girls complain when the tables are turned after the first time they had sex and he wants to let her go easy...

[Gaeta]

In my books, asking for a second date ON the first date is pushy and puts her on the spot. Even if you think it shows assertiveness confidence, it also shows that you are fearful you'll never see her again and try to lock her down there and then. She didn't have to agree to talk on the phone when I texted her 4 days later. She could have said "I'm out at the moment with friends, so I'll let you know when I'm free to chat". She also didn't have to answer my text at all.

 

That is why I asked in my first post in this thread how old you were and how much dating experiencing you had. I would love for you to answer.

 

Someone with experience with today's dating scene, and today's online dating would know asking for a second date at the end of a first one (that went well) is not being pushy. I can dig out for you many threads where the woman was excited she ended first date with a second one on her agenda.

[TheFinalWord]

Yeah and how many times do you see when a guy chases a woman, he ends up getting rejected? Well, if this stuff works for Corey Wayne and not me, then god knows what will work.

 

4 days really isn't anything to cry over but she did openly mention to me on the date that she's stubborn and hot headed, and its ironic because she did strike me as emotionally unavailable. Its her loss, not into the high and mighty.

 

Corey Wayne's rules are mainly designed so that women self-weed themselves out of your dating life. Sounds like they worked in this case. On your end you have to not get hung up, even if the girls shows some signs of interest.

 

Did you follow his protocol exactly? Wayne says not to chit chat prior to dates. Establish a definite time, date, location meet up and leave it at that. If the woman won't do that, or stalls, you can try one more time, and if nothing, then you then know for sure not to waste your time.

[Vado]

Corey Wayne's rules are mainly designed so that women self-weed themselves out of your dating life. Sounds like they worked in this case. On your end you have to not get hung up, even if the girls shows some signs of interest.

 

Did you follow his protocol exactly? Wayne says not to chit chat prior to dates. Establish a definite time, date, location meet up and leave it at that. If the woman won't do that, or stalls, you can try one more time, and if nothing, then you then know for sure not to waste your time.

 

But Wayne also says that if the girls brings it up, a second date, it's ok, because they are the chosers anyway.

[TheFinalWord]

But Wayne also says that if the girls brings it up, a second date, it's ok, because they are the chosers anyway.

 

Could be...he could write him and ask

 

Pretty similar scenario...

 

[Swan89]

Corey Wayne's rules are mainly designed so that women self-weed themselves out of your dating life. Sounds like they worked in this case. On your end you have to not get hung up, even if the girls shows some signs of interest.

 

Did you follow his protocol exactly? Wayne says not to chit chat prior to dates. Establish a definite time, date, location meet up and leave it at that. If the woman won't do that, or stalls, you can try one more time, and if nothing, then you then know for sure not to waste your time.

 

I followed Corey's advice to the core. I did not chit chat, no texting, no texting to confirm the date on the day (she did) She asked if we could 'talk more before the date' to which I agreed but simply only replied to her initiated contact. I called to make a definite date both times. But obviously this time, she pretended she was interested in another date with the 'schedule check' routine.

 

Gaeta, I am nearly 27 years old and I have dated around 10 women in my life. Only 2 of them long term as the rest had no long term potential.

[katiegrl]

I followed Corey's advice to the core. I did not chit chat, no texting, no texting to confirm the date on the day (she did) She asked if we could 'talk more before the date' to which I agreed but simply only replied to her initiated contact. I called to make a definite date both times. But obviously this time, she pretended she was interested in another date with the 'schedule check' routine.

 

 

This Corey Wayne guy seems like an idiot....

 

I wouldn't last with a guy who followed his advice for two minutes.... let alone an entire night.

 

In fact, I would have nexted him before we even met.

[Swan89]

This Corey Wayne guy seems like an idiot....

 

I wouldn't last with a guy who followed his advice for two minutes.... let alone an entire night.

 

In fact, I would have nexted him before we even met.

 

The reason behind his method is that when you pursue MORE than the woman does, it unbalances the polarity of masculine vs feminine energy- allowing her to do 70-80% of the pursuing.

His method implements setting definite date places and times and continuing to do so on a weekly basis, allowing her space to wonder about you and as the dates keep coming, she reaches out more and more to the point that you pretty much no longer have to do any of the pursuing.

Its to help keep guys from falling into the trap of becoming her emotional 'tampon', or 'gay male girlfriend' so to speak.

[Vado]

This Corey Wayne guy seems like an idiot....

 

I wouldn't last with a guy who followed his advice for two minutes.... let alone an entire night.

 

In fact, I would have nexted him before we even met.

 

It happends so many times that girls make out with guys they previously called an idiot, Corey Wayne explains it as the difference between 'like' and 'desire'. For instance not chitchatting over the phone, she likes you less but she desires you more.

[Gaeta]

It happends so many times that girls make out with guys they previously called an idiot, Corey Wayne explains it as the difference between 'like' and 'desire'. For instance not chitchatting over the phone, she likes you less but she desires you more.

 

Did I just read this?? I am speechless.

[Swan89]

Did I just read this?? I am speechless.

 

Indeed! Its the classic 'bad boy' or 'alpha male' thing that they seem to become drawn to and desires the guy that has interest but also acts like a man, one who has goals and is busy and ambitious.

A lot of them don't understand why they desire them over the guys who are eager beavers, always available.

Its a classic case of the baby and the toy scenario.

[Gaeta]

And what type of women are attracted by this behavior you think?

[Swan89]

And what type of women are attracted by this behavior you think?

 

The right ones. The ones who are equally ambitious and have a good life and aren't insecure and sitting by the phone every night.

Its designed to weed out those who get butt hurt and cause drama, as well as weeding out those with so-so interest level from the beginning.

[Vado]

And what type of women are attracted by this behavior you think?

 

Nearly all woman, besides the women who are very masculine.

(which is not only genetic based, but also depends on her mood)

She can sometimes be 'more in her masculine')

 

And it depends a bit on the attraction level you got from the start. As a man you wait untill she reaches out after you have asked her for dates during the first few weeks. But keep it a bit balanced or else she might autoreject her self, if it becomes 'to much desire and less and less like'

[katiegrl]

The reason behind his method is that when you pursue MORE than the woman does, it unbalances the polarity of masculine vs feminine energy- allowing her to do 70-80% of the pursuing.

His method implements setting definite date places and times and continuing to do so on a weekly basis, allowing her space to wonder about you and as the dates keep coming, she reaches out more and more to the point that you pretty much no longer have to do any of the pursuing.

Its to help keep guys from falling into the trap of becoming her emotional 'tampon', or 'gay male girlfriend' so to speak.

 

Hey I am all for balance... and for wondering and missing someone. Spacing dates out and not becoming too over-invested early on. I talk about it all the time on this board.

 

But what this Cory guy is advising seems way over the top to me, and defeats the purpose of dating which is to indicate interest and develop a connection!

 

You cannot do that if you are not communicating in between dates... and what he advised about not confirming a date, not even on the day of the date?

 

What's that about? What if SHE had not texted you confirming? Would you have just shown up without confirming first?

 

That would have been a waste of time, cuz guarantee SHE wouldn't have shown up.

 

What he is essentially doing is advising guys on how to be a-****.

 

The only girls who go for that crap are insecure little girls who enjoy the challenge and chase, and if those are the types of girls you go for, have at it!

 

Best of luck!

Edited June 30, 2016 by katiegrl

[Gaeta]

So again how ironic OP is the one on here being butt hurt because she did not get back to him in 2 days.

 

If this Corey guy is so good how come you 2 advertizing it don't have success stories or a relationship to show for it?

[katiegrl]

The right ones. The ones who are equally ambitious and have a good life and aren't insecure and sitting by the phone every night.

Its designed to weed out those who get butt hurt and cause drama, as well as weeding out those with so-so interest level from the beginning.

 

As I said, it will attract a certain type of women. But not secure women ... because secure women have high-self esteem and expect more from the men they date... not men who need to follow "dating advice" from some bozo who's probably never even had a successful RL.

 

That Doc Love idiot was the same way. None of his RLs or marriages lasted.... he was a total loser in that regard.

 

But there he was advising guys on how to get the girl...what a joke. Made him millions I'm sure. And laughing all the way to the bank!~ LOL

 

Sure he may "get" the girl initially... because, again some chicks like that sort of challenge in the beginning.... but can he "keep" her?

 

Highly doubtful. Not with that type of game playing.

[Swan89]

So again how ironic OP is the one on here being butt hurt because she did not get back to him in 2 days.

 

If this Corey guy is so good how come you 2 advertizing it don't have success stories or a relationship to show for it?

 

Didn't we speak about this earlier? I'm actually very fascinated by the psychology of women's minds and how certain things make her act in certain ways. I already said, I'm not upset, why would I be? Its just ONE date!

I'm here to get perspective from other people.

 

And I don't have success stories yet, because I've literally just started using it. Although in the past, now that I think about it, I have noticed some girls definitely want me more when I don't chase them and hang back a little.

[Vado]

So again how ironic OP is the one on here being butt hurt because she did not get back to him in 2 days.

 

If this Corey guy is so good how come you 2 advertizing it don't have success stories or a relationship to show for it?

 

yeah the OP better outwait her a bit longer, she might reach out the next few days, two days isn't that much, is it?

 

I discovered Corey Wayne after a breakup, and now I clearly see what I've done wrong. Tomorrow I have the next date with a new girl. I like Corey's advice a lot, but i have to admit his advice is a bit less if it comes to approaching/first contact. He says a lot: go to the mall, i don't like malls, better look in my social circle.

[katiegrl]

Didn't we speak about this earlier? I'm actually very fascinated by the psychology of women's minds and how certain things make her act in certain ways. I already said, I'm not upset, why would I be? Its just ONE date!

I'm here to get perspective from other people.

 

I understand that ... but all women's minds are NOT alike.

 

It would behoove you to learn this.

 

Maybe spend your energy getting to know a woman, on an individual basis so you know what makes HER tick.... instead of wasting it on game playing and implementing infantile strategies based on some garbage you read from some dating advice book.

 

Cause one of these days you are gonna meet a chick who you REALLY like, REALLY click with, and end up turning her completely off with this game playing you insist works.... which clearly doesn't otherwise you'd be planning your second date with the chick this thread is about

[Swan89]

I understand that ... but all women's minds are NOT alike.

 

It would behoove you to learn this.

 

Maybe spend your energy getting to know a woman, on an individual basis so you know what makes HER tick.... instead of wasting it on game playing and implementing infantile strategies based on some garbage you read from some dating advice book.

 

Cause one of these days you are gonna meet a chick who you REALLY like, REALLY click with, and end up turning her completely off with this game playing you insist works.... which clearly doesn't otherwise you'd be planning your second date with the chick this thread is about

 

You really need to check it out, he's very successfully renowned, he gets tons of emails from all over the world, helping to salvage people's relationships, marriages and new relationships so that the guy doesn't slip up. Its genius.

I got the result I wanted from his help, I weeded out a woman with low interest to begin with. NEXT!

[katiegrl]

You really need to check it out, he's very successfully renowned, he gets tons of emails from all over the world, helping to salvage people's relationships, marriages and new relationships so that the guy doesn't slip up. Its genius.

I got the result I wanted from his help, I weeded out a woman with low interest to begin with. NEXT!

 

Yeah maybe I should cuz if he has that kind of success... CLEARLY I am missing something.....

[mizunomead]

As someone who spent his whole adult life being married, And just started dating not to long ago as a guy in his mid 30's. All of these rules, books, manuals, codes, sytems etc seem to be a bit crazy right???

If i go out on a first meet with someone. And i liked her and was interested in going on a date with her. I would make it known to her that i enjoyed myself on that first meeting.

And i would probably contact her sometime the next day when i had time to let her know i had a great time and ask about her schedule for the next week to schedule another date if she would like also. I would not wait more then 2 days to contact her personally. I'm interested, i'm not going to wait just because.