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For men, the importance of safe sex may depend on how hot their partner is | Ars Technica

 

 

Studies have shown this is true for both men and women. I believe this is definitely true but I think it has to do with circumstances in the moment.

 

Example. Bob is at a party talking to this really attractive girl and they are vibing well. She wants to have sex with him then and there but Bob doesn't have a condom. This is a one time only shot, Bob isn't gonna turn down sex with a 9 simply because he doesn't have protection. He'll take the chance at that moment. If she was average he'd by like "ehh not worth it I can get that any time I want"

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Example. Bob is at a party talking to this really attractive girl and they are vibing well. She wants to have sex with him then and there but Bob doesn't have a condom. This is a one time only shot, Bob isn't gonna turn down sex with a 9 simply because he doesn't have protection. He'll take the chance at that moment. If she was average he'd by like "ehh not worth it I can get that any time I want"

 

Fantastic, yet another thread depicting men as idiots who think with their penis.:roll eyes: So Bob is willing to risk HIV because she's hot. Perhaps Bob is just eliminating himself from the gene pool for the betterment of humanity? :laugh: And if this story is to be believed, hot women are also lacking in brain capacity because they want an entirely ordinary shag that they could also achieve anywhere, at anytime. Hmmm....something about this just doesn't make sense now does it?

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Kinda obvious.....I dunno...:laugh:

 

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Fantastic, yet another thread depicting men as idiots who think with their penis.:roll eyes: So Bob is willing to risk HIV because she's hot. Perhaps Bob is just eliminating himself from the gene pool for the betterment of humanity? :laugh: And if this story is to be believed, hot women are also lacking in brain capacity because they want an entirely ordinary shag that they could also achieve anywhere, at anytime. Hmmm....something about this just doesn't make sense now does it?

 

 

 

It's not just men it's men and women. Again studies have shown both genders engage in this behavior with "hot" partners. Journal of Health Psychology

 

My best friend looks like a model and he says straight up most women he messes with are straight up ok without using protection with him, he has to be the one to introduce condoms into the situation. If he was average I doubt that would be the case

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Did everyone here forget the definition of the word "may".

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I don't get it. I consider myself to be a very open minded person but when it comes to safe sex I'm beyond dumfounded how irresponsible so many people continue to be. What is wrong with everyone??

 

I couldn't give a f*ck how hot you are or how damp you make my panties, I would never risk catching an STD just for a hot one night stand. Give me a break.

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I'll wait until a cure for aids is sought, and until then will wear my rubber.

 

Seriously, read not so long ago that a good chunk of adolescent seem to believe that aids can be cured now or there's some vaccine to combat it. We need more educational tv, not the Kardashian.

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It's not just men it's men and women. Again studies have shown both genders engage in this behavior with "hot" partners. Journal of Health Psychology

 

My best friend looks like a model and he says straight up most women he messes with are straight up ok without using protection with him, he has to be the one to introduce condoms into the situation. If he was average I doubt that would be the case

 

And yet your hot model friend uses a condom right? He's not willing to risk sores on his dick for a lay, right? And how does he know she wouldnt be introducing a condom herself? It could just be she's expecting him to take care of it, and look at that, he does.

 

Second point is, where are all these mythical hot people who engage in bareback sex with less attractive partners? Because you can't have the first scenario without the second being present. If it's proven by studies then the conclusion to draw must be beauty has a tradeoff in the intelligence department. Because someone who potentially could get a hookup any day of the week is risking an STD for something about as rare as the milk in their fridge.

 

I'm not a big fan of science, especially social science to be honest. The quality of a study depends largely on how it's being conducted and even then any study based on self reporting rather than objective measures is subject to confirmation bias. I don't think the sample set of your friend is really anything to go by. Who's to say he doesn't just continually pick sexually irresponsible people?

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I really don't know about this. I think we're more and more seeing a bunch of PC claptrap. Basically, we all know, in our rational mind, that condoms are the go - we know its best for health and safety and almost completely negates the chances of a spurious pregnancy.

 

At the same time, natural sex still seems really common ... at least in my experience. I don't know that it has anything at all to do with perceptions of 'hotness'.

 

I'm of a certain generation and I've heard it said before that the 'young-uns' take this a lot more seriously and assiduously use condoms ... I'm skeptical though.

 

A large chunk of my formative years was during the AIDS scare of the 80's. AIDS is still big, nasty and everywhere, but those who lived through the 80's will know what I mean, it was constantly on everyones mind at the time, yet, natural sex was -still- prevalent.

 

The thing is, rationally, no-one is hot enough to be 'worth it'. Getting an incurable STD, sheesh, even getting a curable one, isn't really worth it for a evening of fun sexy times with anyone yet we all seem to do it.

 

Its definitely not just a man thing either. Women seem to agree that condoms smell bad, taste bad, feel bad and have a tendency to kill the moment when being found, unpacked and applied.

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Women seem to agree that condoms smell bad, taste bad, feel bad and have a tendency to kill the moment when being found, unpacked and applied.

 

That's because they haven't learnt the art of applying said condom in fun and interesting ways. :cool:

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Everyone knows condoms are important, but in my experience, most people dont really use them in practice. Maybe this confirms I am one of the hot ones, but of all the guys I have been with, and from hearing about my friends' experiences, only a small subgroup, maybe 10%, even suggest using them. The overwhelming majority of men seem to assume all women are on BC (which definitely is not true) and dont seem very bothered by the risk of std's- or maybe they just assume the types of people theyre banging are clean (again, a fallacy). Condoms use seems to be more common amongst my gay friends, but the straight people dont seem to bother.

 

I will say, for myself, the correlation between level of attractiveness and condom use makes sense. And i think the logic behind it is very straightforward. The possibility of an accidental pregnancy with someone you dont find attractive, is more frightening than with someone you do. Furthermore, people tend to have biases based on levels of attractiveness. Studies have shown that people tend to perceive attractive people as more intelligent, harder working, etc. It would make sense that this bias extends to "less likely to have an std".

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Honestly, if you are the kind of man/women who favors the hit'em and quit'em style of dating whenever they're in the presence of some hottie from Hoboken then you should ALWAYS be carrying a condom in your wallet or purse. If my 17 year old can remember to keep a condom on his wallet at all times 'just in case' then I think an adult can too.

 

Being 'hot' and sexually adventurous doesn't mean you have to stupid too.

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I with Michelle on this, and we have had these discussions on LS before.

 

Bottom line seems to be there are a lot of people that are very ho hum about STDs and unwanted pregnancy. Blows my mind, but there ya go.

 

My parents were very open minded hippies. The Joy of Sex was on the living room bookcase, and condoms were in the hall closet. They preached that sex was natural, normal, not something to be all hung up on, but above all, something to do SAFELY.

 

And even beyond STD's I am not on birth control and I don't want to get pregnant!

 

I can't believe guys risk knocking girls up on one night stands - they are strangers, you are going to bet the next 18 years of your life on their word that they are on effective BC?

 

I don't know where you all live - but where I live, a 7-11 is always a few blocks away. Not that hard to put your pants on and go get some condoms. For me, that is a WAY better option then the inevitable stress I would have if one wasn't used.

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For men, the importance of safe sex may depend on how hot their partner is | Ars Technica

 

 

Studies have shown this is true for both men and women. I believe this is definitely true but I think it has to do with circumstances in the moment.

 

Example. Bob is at a party talking to this really attractive girl and they are vibing well. She wants to have sex with him then and there but Bob doesn't have a condom. This is a one time only shot, Bob isn't gonna turn down sex with a 9 simply because he doesn't have protection. He'll take the chance at that moment. If she was average he'd by like "ehh not worth it I can get that any time I want"

 

I think this may apply to SOME males and females, too.

 

BTW: Are people aware that a condom does not protect against all STDs?????

 

Some viruses can slip through a condom, and then of course there is breakage or leakage.

 

Also a few STDs can be caught by kissing.

 

Hep C and HIV can be caught if both have a fresh cut in their mouth at the time they kiss. These viruses can also live for a short time on shared razors or toothbrushes.

 

There are a lot of people on both sides who will never wear a condom.

 

My FOW was always trying to get me to remove the condom. No thanks.

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Example. Bob is at a party talking to this really attractive girl and they are vibing well. She wants to have sex with him then and there but Bob doesn't have a condom. This is a one time only shot, Bob isn't gonna turn down sex with a 9 simply because he doesn't have protection. He'll take the chance at that moment. If she was average he'd by like "ehh not worth it I can get that any time I want"

 

Or he'll drive her up to the gas station and run in an buy one. Seriously... Condoms are cheap for a reason. It's not like people walk around with their latest STD clearance report in their wallet/purse.

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I would surmise anyone who enjoys spontaneous and/or anonymous sex on a regular basis would be packing if they are nominally interested in their and their partner's health, attractiveness of either party notwithstanding. If they don't care, in general, then the attractiveness of the potential partner will turn solely on its own merits.

 

I've never been a casual sex person but always carried condoms whenever the potential for sex was on the table, as example a lady I had been dating but hadn't reached the point of sexual involvement yet. A casual sex person would simply have more iterations, presuming equal concern about personal health.

 

I get that some guys are perpetually horny and who they have sex with may not matter but, personally, if I find a woman sexually attractive she's always a ten in my book and always 'hot' to me and, boy it sure was nice to get married, toss the condoms and start working diligently on getting pregnant. Heh.

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For men, the importance of safe sex may depend on how hot their partner is

 

 

 

That makes exactly zero sense.

 

 

Everyone knows that "the importance of safe sex" is a constant, and not a variable, regardless of what risks you take surrounding that importance.

 

When you're in grade 9, and your health teacher is up there citing statistics, as far as who gets what, and how to reduce your risk... the risks are all the same (a constant)... even if nobody can pinpoint exactly where and what those risks ARE.

 

 

So "the importance" of safe sex is immobile, regardless of what risks you are or are not willing to take.

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I don't get it. I consider myself to be a very open minded person but when it comes to safe sex I'm beyond dumfounded how irresponsible so many people continue to be. What is wrong with everyone??

 

I couldn't give a f*ck how hot you are or how damp you make my panties, I would never risk catching an STD just for a hot one night stand. Give me a break.

 

I'll wait until a cure for aids is sought, and until then will wear my rubber.

 

Seriously, read not so long ago that a good chunk of adolescent seem to believe that aids can be cured now or there's some vaccine to combat it. We need more educational tv, not the Kardashian.

 

I was going to say: if you were in the sexually active years in the 80s/90s then you knew how serious the consequences could be for having unsafe sex due to the AIDS epidemic.

 

I think it's begun to be "dated" and "lost."

 

More people that lived through it need to teach their kids about it.

 

I was born in 1982, I know what AIDS/HIV is all about BUT I didn't even know quite how unfortunate it was in the beginning. How it took years to isolate the virus, figure out how it was transmitted, and test to see of you had it. And years more to convince the people in power that it was necessary to discuss it. It wasn't about "the gay agenda" or "God's Punishment." (Sounds like a witch-hunt. How crazy). Sick stuff.

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"For (a majority) men, the importance of sex may depend on how hot their partner is."

 

 

I find the above to be a more accurate conclusion. In other words, I do not believe that having protection would make a man more likely to have sex with a woman he does not find attractive. He will either use one, or he will not.

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Look, while many people practice safe sex, I believe this article has a point.

 

Come on people, when you see an attractive - even hot person walking down the street, what's the first thing that comes to your mind?

 

You think that person doesn't have a care in the world, the stars are aligned for them.

 

I remember a chick I worked with who was like the beauty queen for a fund raising event at our job. She was "very" beautiful. Thin, petite, gorgeous. Guys asked me all the time to help them get her number. Well, to my surprise, I was floored when she said her bf was cheating on her (with some loser woman).

 

Another chick I worked with? Also attractive. Guys wanted to chat her up all the time. Little did they know she was a single mom with like three kids, living in a trailer park.

 

My point is, people initially use looks to evaluate the person - even when it comes to health. They figure someone with a STD probably has bad teeth, a wart on their forehead, etc...a "monster" even.

 

But, only wise people take a step back and don't allow looks to rule their total evaluation of a person.

 

I don't know, IMO, yes, guys let looks rule. I've seen too many guys let hot chicks rule them. Geesh, on ID, this guy (who was attractive himself) was all wrapped up in this hot mess. She even made false charges against him for abusing him. One nite she called him for a booty call and his friends warned him that one day she would kill him. She did that nite. The girl was a hot, psycho, mess. And, all his friends kept on saying on how he was a guy who just wanted to "help" people. "Help"? Whatever....it was her looks and hot little bod why he kept going back, not cuz he was on some humanitarian mission.

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For men, the importance of safe sex may depend on how hot their partner is | Ars Technica

 

 

Studies have shown this is true for both men and women. I believe this is definitely true but I think it has to do with circumstances in the moment.

 

Example. Bob is at a party talking to this really attractive girl and they are vibing well. She wants to have sex with him then and there but Bob doesn't have a condom. This is a one time only shot, Bob isn't gonna turn down sex with a 9 simply because he doesn't have protection. He'll take the chance at that moment. If she was average he'd by like "ehh not worth it I can get that any time I want"

 

Self-control and common sense should trump "libido" ???? . . . Immediate gratification outweighing insight and forethought for possible consequences is the sign of an immature person. If both parties are of that mindset, they deserve whatever negative impact comes their way.

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I have found most guys try to go bareback immediately without a condom. I don't know if it's related to looks necessarily. I just believe a lot of people like to take stupid risks or don't believe they will ever face the consequences.

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I have found most guys try to go bareback immediately without a condom. I don't know if it's related to looks necessarily. I just believe a lot of people like to take stupid risks or don't believe they will ever face the consequences.

 

 

I believe the reason--as Ashtray's dad so eloquently puts it--is because...

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Look, while many people practice safe sex, I believe this article has a point.

 

Come on people, when you see an attractive - even hot person walking down the street, what's the first thing that comes to your mind?

 

You think that person doesn't have a care in the world, the stars are aligned for them.

 

I remember a chick I worked with who was like the beauty queen for a fund raising event at our job. She was "very" beautiful. Thin, petite, gorgeous. Guys asked me all the time to help them get her number. Well, to my surprise, I was floored when she said her bf was cheating on her (with some loser woman).

 

Another chick I worked with? Also attractive. Guys wanted to chat her up all the time. Little did they know she was a single mom with like three kids, living in a trailer park.

 

My point is, people initially use looks to evaluate the person - even when it comes to health. They figure someone with a STD probably has bad teeth, a wart on their forehead, etc...a "monster" even.

 

But, only wise people take a step back and don't allow looks to rule their total evaluation of a person.

 

I don't know, IMO, yes, guys let looks rule. I've seen too many guys let hot chicks rule them. Geesh, on ID, this guy (who was attractive himself) was all wrapped up in this hot mess. She even made false charges against him for abusing him. One nite she called him for a booty call and his friends warned him that one day she would kill him. She did that nite. The girl was a hot, psycho, mess. And, all his friends kept on saying on how he was a guy who just wanted to "help" people. "Help"? Whatever....it was her looks and hot little bod why he kept going back, not cuz he was on some humanitarian mission.

 

I'm very sexually active and adventurous but I have NEVER let my good sense take a vacation just because of the way my hormones reacted to someone in front of me.

 

Again, being hot or being with someone who's hot and into me is no excuse for being stupid about safe sex. And if it is then this only proves why people need to be smarter and safer about sex.

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Self-control and common sense should trump "libido" ???? . . . Immediate gratification outweighing insight and forethought for possible consequences is the sign of an immature person. If both parties are of that mindset, they deserve whatever negative impact comes their way.

 

I get what you are saying, but would you say someone who smokes deserves cancer? If left untreated, HIV will become AIDS in most people. AIDS is still a death sentence for the majority of people who develop it. So does having unprotected sex warrant a possible death sentence if the person is unlucky enough to contract the disease?

 

The above statement should not be interpreted to say I support or am "ok" with having unprotected sex. Just trying to understand why some people deserve the ultimate consequence?

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