Emilia Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 Ofcourse I loom down on materialistic people lol. We've sold cars to drs lawyers radio talk show owners. Some are deserving. But the vast majority are materialistic. You see the true colors of someone when they're buying a car or a home. Some ppl are genuine and athentic, but the vast majority are shallow. Maybe I'm wrong. But you do a materialistic job. You are in fact a materialistic person. Do you look down on yourself? Most sales people I know have no problem with materialism.
Author Risktaker1 Posted June 19, 2016 Author Posted June 19, 2016 Subjectively, I'd be more into a successful business guy than a doctor. You are being too one sided (not to mention you are not a girl) with how you process this information. I would say if you want to express the compassionate, do-gooder side of yourself (both to satisfy that need in your and fully express who you are when you meet women), then you should do that in a way you can. What comes to mind is that you must have a good entrepreneurial spirit so there is a lot you can do surrounding medical/health field that will impact it in a good way. You should really get involved in a charity or a cause that is important to you and put your money and business sense to use. That would be equally attractive. You can't just look at this "problem" one-dimensionally. Just as you have done well in business, I'm sure if you think about it, there is more than one way to solve this issue. I think it would be really silly to go back to med school now if one of the main reasons for doing so was to attract women. First of all, you are overestimating that profession as an attraction tool. Secondly, you are underestimating the entire gender of women, as well as that a profession such as you have can be attractive too. I'm sure I don't have to tell you that some of the big city dealership people have done some amazing things at a philanthropy level that at some point can bring the same level of prestige as a doctor who is involved in the community. Do some research if you don't know. There are several big name people/families that have done well in business through dealerships and done well for their communities. Thirdly, on a practical, logistical basis, if you go to med school for next 8 years when are you going to have time to date? If you want to be effective for your life as a whole, keep doing what you are doing (assuming you enjoy it/sounded like you did) AND contribute to medicine in another way that will make sense for your life (charity, volunteer, donating, allotted time that you have to give). And if all this still doesn't make sense, you should see a therapist. Honestly, how is a job title or a women who cares about only that portion of you, going to fix what is inside of you? You need to work on that. What a shame to have achieved outside success but never feel as if you are enough--you may be headed down that path if you don't deal with this--it's inside. Good luck One of the best responses I've seen! And on that note I will try to end this string. Everyone's feedback, even my responses were I ndicative of who they are and wheRe they came from. A few women were snappy, some were logical and rationale. What I've realized over and over again is that the rational and logical side always wins. Versacehottie...I go to fundraisers, philanthropic events, and give back tremendously. Thus you're right, there are many other ways to truly give back, rather than just being a dr. Not to discount the profession, but many of the charities we've been involved with have been started and maintained by non medical professionals. Some of the guys we know have realized that unless you have that title at the end of the day it's impossible to keep up with how society perceives one profession over the other. If I do go to med school dating is out of the question until 3rd/4th yr. I dated in college and grad school. Took a hiatus from dating for 4 yrs while I was workkng. Met my ex at 26 who was a pediatrician. Broke up after 1.5yrs. Ive been dating with a purpose since then....I'm honestly over it. You're right going to med school now isn't practical! I'd be 33 this fall, 37 when I graduate. 41 if I do a radiology or psych residency. It's doable, and I don't doubt my drive, I question life at 40. I'd like to travel with my spouse before having kids etc...so it put resource on everything. You're right that it isn't practical and that I should pursue avenues to contribute to society rather than going to med school this late in the game. Like one poster said, this might be a cancer eating away at me, so it's something that I will likely pursue. Thanks again for your response. 1
Author Risktaker1 Posted June 19, 2016 Author Posted June 19, 2016 But you do a materialistic job. You are in fact a materialistic person. Do you look down on yourself? Most sales people I know have no problem with materialism. We do a materialistic job to narrow arbitrage opportunities in an asset class which is trying to be disrupted. Our setup isn't the typical used car lot. In fact it's the opposite. We won't cater to people off of the street. Only Internet leads on hand selected units. So it's not your traditional dealership. Warehouse based, we have ppl fly in, drive in, or ship them out to diff parts of the country. We don't need to "sell" it, they sell on their own. I do look down on my self for what our company does. Yes we've seen families smile and kids become excited at their mothers new minivan, but there's more to life than just that. Thanks
karena70 Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 I will be frank. You obviously have good financial sense. That is a good thing. As an educated woman, your profession and/or description of it would not matter to me. However, the onverall tone of arrogance and the attitude I perceive you have about women would definitely put me off. Financial intelligence and intellectual intelligence seem to be two areas you have grasped. I think you would be well served to attain some emotional intelligence, along with a tad of humility.
Author Risktaker1 Posted June 19, 2016 Author Posted June 19, 2016 And frankly, a good skill to develop for use if you pursue a career as a physician. Doctors who do not ask questions and listen to their patients, but push forward with the belief that they know it all and know what to do are honestly, a disgrace to their profession. We have all seen physicians who do this and nothing is worse than having to put your health and your life in the hands of a doctor who thinks he is doing the right thing... When in reality, he is not listening and being judgmental and dismissive of the patient he is trying to help. I agree with you. This isn't a dr pt relationship. Some of the responses I saw were snappy and headed in the wrong direction. Thus i had to chamge the tonality quick. This was likely due to my original post, as I never post on message boards, so I may not have been as eloquent as some established members would have liked. Nonetheless thanks for your perspective.
Ruby Slippers Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 I do look down on my self for what our company does. This is the root of the problem. By extension, to a degree, you look down on yourself for what you're doing right now. Some of the guys we know have realized that unless you have that title at the end of the day it's impossible to keep up with how society perceives one profession over the other. I've dated a doctor and a business owner, and my anecdotal experience is that the business owner was perceived as higher status and more desirable than the doctor by women across the spectrum. They were both charismatic, intelligent, and accomplished. The only edge the business owner had over the doctor is that he was taller and had a prettier face. In fact, he was less outgoing than the doctor, but women were drawn to him anyway for his physical allure. Sexual desire is the pulsing undercurrent of all romantic interactions, and it counts for a LOT. 1
Emilia Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 I do look down on my self for what our company does. Then this is the problem. Until you fix this, you won't be confident. No-one who is ashamed of what they do can feel good about themselves, certainly not good enough to go after whom they really want.
sc0316 Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) OP: Would you still feel "inferior" (for lack of a better word) to a physician if you had stayed as an i-banker? I never understand why doctors are so overrated. Sure, I've met some amazing physicians, but there are also plenty of mediocre ones out there (whom I try hard to avoid). If you tell your potential date that you got tired as an energy trader in an i-bank and started a biz with this new idea of trading cars (by taking arbitrage), then she will be pretty impressed. Edited June 19, 2016 by sc0316 1
tinkerbell16 Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) One of the best responses I've seen! And on that note I will try to end this string. Everyone's feedback, even my responses were I ndicative of who they are and wheRe they came from. A few women were snappy, some were logical and rationale. What I've realized over and over again is that the rational and logical side always wins. Versacehottie...I go to fundraisers, philanthropic events, and give back tremendously. Thus you're right, there are many other ways to truly give back, rather than just being a dr. Not to discount the profession, but many of the charities we've been involved with have been started and maintained by non medical professionals. Some of the guys we know have realized that unless you have that title at the end of the day it's impossible to keep up with how society perceives one profession over the other. If I do go to med school dating is out of the question until 3rd/4th yr. I dated in college and grad school. Took a hiatus from dating for 4 yrs while I was workkng. Met my ex at 26 who was a pediatrician. Broke up after 1.5yrs. Ive been dating with a purpose since then....I'm honestly over it. You're right going to med school now isn't practical! I'd be 33 this fall, 37 when I graduate. 41 if I do a radiology or psych residency. It's doable, and I don't doubt my drive, I question life at 40. I'd like to travel with my spouse before having kids etc...so it put resource on everything. You're right that it isn't practical and that I should pursue avenues to contribute to society rather than going to med school this late in the game. Like one poster said, this might be a cancer eating away at me, so it's something that I will likely pursue. Thanks again for your response. Am I the only one dying to know if I came across as one of "the snappy or rational" ones in my responses? I mean since we are sharing self awareness lol. Oh geez the OP left this thread... guess the mystery will never be solved Edited June 19, 2016 by tinkerbell16
longjohn Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 The OP has (assuming all is true of course, this is the internet) done an impressive amount of things in his 31 years. Some would look at the negative and say he's failed to finish law school or become a doctor etc or why is he acting entitled or think being a doctor will help him find the right woman. The fact he's helped his family is undeniably commendable and speaks volumes about his charter. I can relate on a few aspects of what he's said with regards to professional status. Trust me OP having the "professional status" is great until.. most ladies don't believe it until you whip out an ID or some credentials to prove it. Now you ask yourself are they dating you or the two, three or more letters after your name and thinking.. well this guy can generate some $$ so I'll stick around until he does or maybe he already has. My advise is try to see yourself form the third person perspective it helps keep ego in check. Date ladies for themselves tell them about you, avoid your job for a while and/or make it sound like any normal boring job. Who knows you might find your 9 or 10 lady out there that likes you for you vs your money.
Poutrew Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 Young fella, if you want to find a quality woman, don't tell her anything about what you do or what you are worth. At least not at first. You come at her with all this money - sales - doctor - banker stuff, you are more likely to eventually wind up on one of those TV Murder shows, you know, "He had it all. Great looks, wealth, a beautiful model wife, perfect kids. He left one night to withdraw $100,000 from the bank, and was never seen again. That night the hysterical wife called the police to report him missing..." By the end of the show, it turns out the wife and her young, poor, high school dropout, pool boy lover, wacked him and never thought they would get caught... Hang out in simple surroundings, and show your humble side. You want a woman who truly doesn't give a damn what your net worth is. Find one who wants to know what your soul is worth instead. I'd recommend a church, or volunteer work of some type to begin with. Good luck, and I seriously hope you don't end up with a Kardashian...
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