yepsurething Posted May 14, 2016 Posted May 14, 2016 so does anyone sign work notes with an XX like kisses? I found a note to my husband in our car with a basic work task for him written in a women's handwriting and it's signed XX. Is this just a new way to sign things? husband works for the state, so a professional job. I'm about to ask him about it and wondered if this is just the way people are signing stuff now =/
Sandy43 Posted May 14, 2016 Posted May 14, 2016 No that is not usual. You need to stop confronting him and just investigate until you get proof. The more you confront the more effort goes into hiding what he's doing. I know that it's difficult but he is not going to confess to anything with that note. Is it signed? I would start looking into the person who wrote the note. If you can't get his phone, check your computer to see if he has backed up his phone, if he did then you will have access to everything on his phone. Does he have an iPhone? 3
Arieswoman Posted May 14, 2016 Posted May 14, 2016 yepsurething, That type of note, if it is work-related, is totally unprofessional. If it isn't work-related then what can I say? I would go quietly into Sherlock Homes mode now and look for other clues of this "unprofessional" behaviour. And BTW, keep the note safe in your possession - you never know when you might need it. I'm sorry, but this doesn't sound good...... x 1
Author yepsurething Posted May 14, 2016 Author Posted May 14, 2016 No that is not usual. You need to stop confronting him and just investigate until you get proof. The more you confront the more effort goes into hiding what he's doing. I know that it's difficult but he is not going to confess to anything with that note. Is it signed? I would start looking into the person who wrote the note. If you can't get his phone, check your computer to see if he has backed up his phone, if he did then you will have access to everything on his phone. Does he have an iPhone? yes, he has an eye phone. he's put pics on our computer before, but he mostly uses just his phone.
Sandy43 Posted May 14, 2016 Posted May 14, 2016 Then I would check your pc, there maybe back up files from his phone. Just google it and it will show you where to find them. It backs up everything on the phone so you should be able to find text messages. If you find the files then it would probably be best to use Dr.phone to view the files.
JulieEverette Posted May 14, 2016 Posted May 14, 2016 Unless his coworker is named Xavier Xiamigram than no its not typical. X X is sill a symbol for "kisses". Check his phone next time you get a chance
mrs rubble Posted May 14, 2016 Posted May 14, 2016 Is there a name on the note too? I'm really curious about what "women's handwriting" looks like!
TaraMaiden2 Posted May 14, 2016 Posted May 14, 2016 so does anyone sign work notes with an XX like kisses? I found a note to my husband in our car with a basic work task for him written in a women's handwriting and it's signed XX. Is this just a new way to sign things? husband works for the state, so a professional job. I'm about to ask him about it and wondered if this is just the way people are signing stuff now =/ I hate to be harsh - but I think I might be just that. Stop asking, wondering, and puzzling. Your H is a cheating secretive master of deceit, and he is deceiving you at every turn. Instead of questioning his actions and everything surrounding his underhand and lying behaviour, just put your ducks in order and devise a strategy to get out. This is not something he will ever help you with. He doesn't care about you, because if he did, he would do everything within his power to set your mind at rest and prove how much he loves you. He's emotionally checked out of this marriage. He is a liar, a fraud, and a cheat. I suspect he is cheating and every single action of his does nothing to make me believe otherwise. I think hios looking at porn is the least of your problems, Your main problem is that you think he can not only provide answers, but will ever return to being the husband you once thought you had. That man is gone. Get used to it, because you have to move on and act, instead of continuing to question his actions. 1
NTV Posted May 15, 2016 Posted May 15, 2016 I like to think I'm fairly attractive (yes might just be ego talking there) but even though I talk about wife and kids at work there are still women who leave little notes or other bullshi* occasionally. I normally just ignore and they get the message quick. I don't push the confrontation because I don't want to be topic of office gossip. Then again I never got one that was a mix of work task and that so it's pretty easy to leave in the trash can. I'm not saying that because I disagree with the sherlock Holmes recommendation because I too think you should. I just wouldn't let it bother me until other evidence. It could be he didn't realize the xx meant that either... I know I wouldn't. Course the less direct methods of signaling availability might be something I overlook often without realizing it. Is you husband the type of guy to miss a subtle signal or not? 1
Lady Hamilton Posted May 15, 2016 Posted May 15, 2016 FWIW, I've been known to sign emails and memos with "XX" or just "X," especially if it's short and informal. 1
SolG Posted May 15, 2016 Posted May 15, 2016 No idea what XX could mean besides kisses, but... Where I work we commonly use 'X' as a colloquial abbreviation for executive assistant, and 'XO' for executive level supervisor of a project (I believe this was stolen from the military XO = executive officer). That having been said... go with your gut is telling you it means, as the gut is generally around and about right. 1
ASG Posted May 15, 2016 Posted May 15, 2016 FWIW, I've been known to sign emails and memos with "XX" or just "X," especially if it's short and informal. Yeap, same here. And I've had many many work emails be signed the same way to me. Personally, depending on the relationship of the two people involved, I see absolutely no problem with it.
jen1447 Posted May 16, 2016 Posted May 16, 2016 I think it depends on how uptight your work environment is. I've done it before myself, but not like "xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo!!!!!:-*xoxoxoxoxo~~~!!!" Just an x or 2. btw I think the letter is important - isn't x the hug? As in xs and os = hugs and kisses? Silly as it sounds, xs (hugs) seem more ok to me than os (kisses). (I hope I'm right about that bc otherwise I've been going around sending my kisses to my coworkers. )
LivingWaterPlease Posted May 16, 2016 Posted May 16, 2016 I think it depends on how uptight your work environment is. I've done it before myself, but not like "xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo!!!!!:-*xoxoxoxoxo~~~!!!" Just an x or 2. btw I think the letter is important - isn't x the hug? As in xs and os = hugs and kisses? Silly as it sounds, xs (hugs) seem more ok to me than os (kisses). (I hope I'm right about that bc otherwise I've been going around sending my kisses to my coworkers. ) oh oh, jen1447, just googled XO! according to this webpage you may have been kissing people you haven't intended to kiss ...How "XOXO" Came to Mean "Hugs and Kisses" not to worry, though, it probably just underscores your workplace charisma...
jen1447 Posted May 16, 2016 Posted May 16, 2016 oh oh, jen1447, just googled XO! according to this webpage you may have been kissing people you haven't intended to kiss ...How "XOXO" Came to Mean "Hugs and Kisses" not to worry, though, it probably just underscores your workplace charisma... Haha ....oh well, I've always been a big kissy face anyway. 1
Davey L Posted May 16, 2016 Posted May 16, 2016 Just to counter all the "he must be cheating, start investigating and invading his privacy" comments - I have often received emails and notes like this from female colleagues. I also work in a professional environment. I never read anything much into it, it's just friendly mild flirting of the type that makes for a happy day at work.
jenkins95 Posted May 16, 2016 Posted May 16, 2016 Just to counter all the "he must be cheating, start investigating and invading his privacy" comments - I have often received emails and notes like this from female colleagues. I also work in a professional environment. I never read anything much into it, it's just friendly mild flirting of the type that makes for a happy day at work. I agree that this note in isolation is not much cause for concern, but combine this with the OP 's other thread and I definitely think there's reason to go into detective mode. Hopefully it will amount to nothing and the OP will get peace of mind, but I think she needs to get some answers before she can stop this nagging at her internal fears and doubts. Good luck OP and keep posting to us.! We are here for you 1
Jersey born raised Posted May 18, 2016 Posted May 18, 2016 I doubt most HR departments would find XX acceptable. Simply because it is commonly thought to mean kisses. Thus XX could be construed to mean as an offer to explore having a personal relationships. Creating a she said, he heard legal nightmare.
standtall Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 it's just friendly mild flirting of the type that makes for a happy day at work. You just made the point. Not much of a professional environment by the way it sounds. I'm sure human resources for your company, just like the wife posting here, have a different take on it.
Mrs. John Adams Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 I am still trying to figure out how one knows a womans handwriting from a mans...... I would never sign a note to someone besides my spouse, or family with an xx.... so I am not sure what that's about...but you can bet I would be trying to find out. 1
katielee Posted May 20, 2016 Posted May 20, 2016 I'm a FWW. This kind of crap is off limits. Even if it meant nothing you never know how that kind of thing is interpreted. Or misinterpreted for that matter. You just don't go there. 1
Lady Hamilton Posted May 20, 2016 Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) Just for fun I consulted my late 90s business shorthand textbook specifically for "legal and administrative executive workplaces" and it says the following... X is a substitute for your signature ("Sincerely, X" for example) or identifies somebody as an executive (so "X Amy" would mean "Executive, Amy"... Like in a signature with title). XX is either an implied signature and title (so if I'm Bob's secretary, I know XX means "Bob, executive job title"), a notation at the end of new content in an email or note when the email or note contains pages of repeated content (think an email chain that's 5 pages long but you only need to read the top) that's used with or without signature blocks, it's the designation of the end of an order/request, or it's a notation of an informal plan or request by a superior (XX meaning "executive execution"). XX is occasionally a substitute in shorthand for "thank you" as TY is shorthand for "typewriter" or a special telecommunication device for the hearing impaired. XO means "executive order" which is a formal request in writing, but potentially done informally on the assumption the formal executive order is incoming. It can also mean "executive officer" or "executive offer" (former when talking about budgeting personnel or military, latter in informal office negotiations usually related to pay). Granted, the computer has killed the need for shorthand and years of having the Internet available to every ding dong in the world has also killed formal business etiquette in emails and communications, but that's what it used to mean. I still use XX in emails and notes, usually in the context above where it serves as a signature and a barrier before old content begins, or as a quick signature on a note that basically says "do this simple task, that's the end of my requests related to this task," but that's me. For example, "Make 14 copies, XX" means "you just need to make the copies. You don't have to read or notate it, and your work related to this task ends when you make the copies. And I'm not saying any of the above applies here, only that it was interesting to read how something that was common business practice 20 years ago is now interpreted as a breech of personal protocol. If it were me and my husband had a note laying about with "XX" on it, unless it said something personal ("pick up my dry cleaning, XX, Amy") or had an informal signature ("get documents filed, XX, Love Muffin") I'd probably ignore it, or assume they were big fans of Scott Pilgrim. I always was under the impression that "XXX" was when it turned from abbreviation to kisses, and I'd just assume that if the note was that poorly hidden then it must be highly routine work stuff. Edited May 20, 2016 by Lady Hamilton
Mrs. John Adams Posted May 20, 2016 Posted May 20, 2016 Just for fun I consulted my late 90s business shorthand textbook specifically for "legal and administrative executive workplaces" and it says the following... X is a substitute for your signature ("Sincerely, X" for example) or identifies somebody as an executive (so "X Amy" would mean "Executive, Amy"... Like in a signature with title). XX is either an implied signature and title (so if I'm Bob's secretary, I know XX means "Bob, executive job title"), a notation at the end of new content in an email or note when the email or note contains pages of repeated content (think an email chain that's 5 pages long but you only need to read the top) that's used with or without signature blocks, it's the designation of the end of an order/request, or it's a notation of an informal plan or request by a superior (XX meaning "executive execution"). XX is occasionally a substitute in shorthand for "thank you" as TY is shorthand for "typewriter" or a special telecommunication device for the hearing impaired. XO means "executive order" which is a formal request in writing, but potentially done informally on the assumption the formal executive order is incoming. Granted, the computer has killed the need for shorthand and years of having the Internet available to every ding dong in the world has also killed formal business etiquette in emails and communications, but that's what it used to mean. I still use XX in emails and notes, usually in the context above where it serves as a signature and a barrier before old content begins, or as a quick signature on a note that basically says "do this simple task, that's the end of my requests related to this task," but that's me. For example, "Make 14 copies, XX" means "you just need to make the copies. You don't have to read or notate it, and your work related to this task ends when you make the copies. And I'm not saying any of the above applies here, only that it was interesting to read how something that was common business practice 20 years ago is now interpreted as a breech of personal protocol. If it were me and my husband had a note laying about with "XX" on it, unless it said something personal ("pick up my dry cleaning, XX, Amy") or had an informal signature ("get documents filed, XX, Love Muffin") I'd probably ignore it, or assume they were big fans of Scott Pilgrim. I always was under the impression that "XXX" was when it turned from abbreviation to kisses, and I'd just assume that if the note was that poorly hidden then it must be highly routine work stuff. wow...thank you for posting this! I had no idea! It sure explains that!
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