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A buddy of mine told me that whenever a woman says "women hate me", she is trying to imply that they're all jealous, hence why they hate her.

 

Is this true?

 

I know some women who are always hated, and these women are intelligent, beautiful, confident and whatever other wonderful qualities they have. Women always hate them, but when they say so, all of a sudden people look down on her and think "she's just saying that to look better."

 

Is that what men really think? Because some women really ARE hated by most other women, and believe me, that's not fun, so it wouldn't be something we would say just for the hell of it...

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People hate others that have ugly character flaws. Women don't hate other women because they are pretty and successful.

 

If a pretty woman told me women hate her I'd right away think she is a B deep down, and she is just not aware of her abrasive personality.

 

I would also view it as she is blowing her own horn. It's just not something you wanna hear out of woman's mouth.

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The red flag is more in the act of drawing attention to it than the statement itself. Not everyone is universally liked so there's nothing surprising about that.

 

I have my fair share of people who dislike me. Sometimes we've just got off to the wrong footing but there also people, sometimes of the same sex, who dislike me for no reason that I can discern. I used to get upset about this. I still do to some extent but then if people dislike you for no reason there isn't much you can do about it.

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Envy and jealousy are not quite the same as hate. Once if a hateful person feels jealous, she'd start hating. Envy and jealousy are quite common in human beings, both men and women. Usually they manifest as keeping distance from that person, yet watching his/her every move, staring. That's not hate.

If a woman says "women hate me", it just means "I hate women".

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She might be devious and have an ugly heart.

 

Women can pick up on that, some guys are just blinded by the exterior.

 

:p

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Having some women hate her is normal, but its a little weird to draw attention to it.

 

Having the majority of women hate her shows she has some negative personality traits.

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Well I wouldn't say "women hate me" because that implies that you are universally disliked. But I can see why people say it out of frustration. I have a couple of close female friends who I get on with very well. Anyway there's a few things I've had to do in the past to avoid being disliked by certain people:

 

1. Acting less intelligent or mocking myself because if I come across as I have brains and I know it, it's automatically seen as a bad thing. I don't think I'm most intelligent person in the world. In fact, far from it. But putting on a self-effacing aura always works more in my favour.

2. Not talking or making eye contact with someone else's boyfriend. I was once accused of hitting on another woman's man but I was absolutely not doing that at all. I had effectively no interest in him at all. If I'm in a group of men and women, I always stay close to the women now.

3. Having to put up with the odd jibe about my appearance from women, sometimes older women. In a previous job, putting up with the odd sexual harassment from older male colleagues because if I was to make a point about it, no one would believe me and it would have affected my credibility at work.

4. Avoiding divulging anything about myself of any particular significance because it will no doubt shoot me in the foot later on when that person betrays my confidence.

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In my experience, telling other people that "women hate me" is usually a kind of humblebrag where the woman saying it is implying that they are all jealous of her. I think a woman saying that is a red flag because what is her motivation for doing so? To get attention and intrigue. If it's true it's not a good thing either.

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I would say that "women hate me", but I wouldn't say it out loud. It's somewhat of a pity party and a means to get attention. In general I just mind my own business with people and if someone has some hate or jealousy, that's their business and I stay out of it. Life is a process of elimination of who is and isn't genuine. This is one of the problems.

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It's fairly common.

 

It's not a personality defect with the hated one.

 

It's a personality defect of the haters.

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It's fairly common.

 

It's not a personality defect with the hated one.

 

It's a personality defect of the haters.

 

I agree ...in some cases, it IS a personality defect in the hater.

 

But then again, I have known very pretty girls who are completely stuck on themselves, snotty, standoffish. etc and then whine they can't make friends cause women hate them.

 

Do you know Katy Lee? Gorgeous, former model. Chef. Utterly stunning! She is beautiful INSIDE and outside, and has a TON of girlfriends! Don't ask me how I know that, but it's true.

 

There is no one right answer, it depends on the individuals involved...

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It CAN be a red-flag.

 

I don't want to be unfair but my experiences with girls who "don't get along with other girls" have been pretty bad.

 

From what I've seen, being friends with other girls, you have to be willing to "play the game" socially. Looking pretty, complimenting everyone, being emotionally sensitive all the time. It's a different beast than guy-guy friendship. In my experience, pretty girls who don't want to play the game, but instead prefer to find male friends, are bad news. Because finding male friends often means finding nonthreatening males who will shower them with attention and give them the positives of a friend minus the negatives. Its a way to have your cake and eat it too.

 

I'm not trying to dig on all women who don't get along with their gender. But in my experience people like that have often been those seeking a path of least resistance, which is a symptom of deeper issues. And once you're dating them you have to put up with their dorky guy 'friends', and their constant drama because they aren't used to not getting their way with a friend, after years of surrounding themselves with people who never say no.

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People hate others that have ugly character flaws. Women don't hate other women because they are pretty and successful.

 

If a pretty woman told me women hate her I'd right away think she is a B deep down, and she is just not aware of her abrasive personality.

 

I would also view it as she is blowing her own horn. It's just not something you wanna hear out of woman's mouth.

 

Wow, i had no idea how misogynistic you are until this point. Just wow. All credibility for your posts instantly went down the drain with this one.

 

Plenty of women get jealous of characteristics they lack and project that onto the person making them feel inadequate. That's a human thing, not a female/male thing. Your attitude is a prime example of this cattiness actually, especially with that second and third sentiment.

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Anyway there's a few things I've had to do in the past to avoid being disliked by certain people:

 

1. Acting less intelligent or mocking myself because if I come across as I have brains and I know it, it's automatically seen as a bad thing. I don't think I'm most intelligent person in the world. In fact, far from it. But putting on a self-effacing aura always works more in my favour.

2. Not talking or making eye contact with someone else's boyfriend. I was once accused of hitting on another woman's man but I was absolutely not doing that at all. I had effectively no interest in him at all. If I'm in a group of men and women, I always stay close to the women now.

3. Having to put up with the odd jibe about my appearance from women, sometimes older women. In a previous job, putting up with the odd sexual harassment from older male colleagues because if I was to make a point about it, no one would believe me and it would have affected my credibility at work.

4. Avoiding divulging anything about myself of any particular significance because it will no doubt shoot me in the foot later on when that person betrays my confidence.

 

And when I read all of that I'm thinking.....

 

Why should you have to dumb yourself down?

Why should you have to actively avoid another person because of their insecure partner?

Why should you have to allow put downs from insecure people and the transgression of your boundaries in order to keep a job?

Why should you have to go through life completely guarded knowing that others are standing by ready to dig the knife in?

 

This whole thread is pretty much a terrible indictment on the state of society and the negative views commonly held by both genders on the subject of women. It honestly surprises me that people really think like this and go throughout their lives accepting the views expressed on this thread.

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I have a colleague who says other women hate her.

 

Having known her a long time, I can say it has nothing to do with her looks, her achievements and so on.

 

It's because she is, deep-down, very insecure and regularly cuts other women down. She is competitive and has been known to be quite two-faced. She also tends be to very condescending to women around her whom she views as a threat in some way. She behaves this way primarily with other women, not with men.

 

So, those are the real reasons she has trouble hanging on to female friends. The same may be true of others who claim women hate them. If they are actually hated by many women, there's usually a reason.

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Wasn't there an ad with a woman saying "Don't hate me because I'm beautiful". I think that was maybe from the 1980's.

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She might be devious and have an ugly heart.

 

Women can pick up on that, some guys are just blinded by the exterior.

 

:p

 

I have not found this to be typical, lilmissjava. I would struggle to name a woman I have met in my personal life or professionally that I would accuse of having a devious mind and an ugly heart.

 

What I have observed, regarding the OP, is that women can be quite hostile toward a woman they perceive as a social/romantic threat. Hate is too strong a word and a word she probably threw out without considering meaning. Some people overuse love and hate words. ;)

 

Imo, it is entirely possible that some women take unnecessary heat and rejection from other women without being actual ogres themselves.

 

I think we should have more women as generals in military because we can be far more strategic than any man I have met.

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A buddy of mine told me that whenever a woman says "women hate me", she is trying to imply that they're all jealous, hence why they hate her.

 

Is this true?

 

I know some women who are always hated, and these women are intelligent, beautiful, confident and whatever other wonderful qualities they have. Women always hate them, but when they say so, all of a sudden people look down on her and think "she's just saying that to look better."

 

Is that what men really think? Because some women really ARE hated by most other women, and believe me, that's not fun, so it wouldn't be something we would say just for the hell of it...

 

They hate her because she's probably the quintessential "Mean Girl". The bully, the jealous, snarky, insecure girl in school who picked on other girls just because . . .

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Anytime I've heard that (I'm a woman) it's been because the woman has no loyalty or boundaries with other women and will have no conscience about moving in on their men, so they dump her and she ends up with only male companions. She tells herself it's jealousy, but like a severe narcissist or sociopath, she is the one lacking in empathy. She is likely to only feel sorry for herself.

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I have not found this to be typical, lilmissjava. I would struggle to name a woman I have met in my personal life or professionally that I would accuse of having a devious mind and an ugly heart.

 

What I have observed, regarding the OP, is that women can be quite hostile toward a woman they perceive as a social/romantic threat. Hate is too strong a word and a word she probably threw out without considering meaning. Some people overuse love and hate words. ;)

 

Imo, it is entirely possible that some women take unnecessary heat and rejection from other women without being actual ogres themselves.

 

I think we should have more women as generals in military because we can be far more strategic than any man I have met.

 

There are plenty of women who lie and are purposely deceitful, this is what I meant by my use of 'devious'. No woman you know has ever lied or been deceitful? I am struggling to believe that.

 

I totally agree with your statement though, about hate being too strong of a word when it comes to people, but hate is also an emotion, and it's human nature to present that emotion in a given circumstance.

 

Lots of the women I know have at times ugly hearts, and are purposefully deceitful.

 

There are just too many variables out there to know exactly why this woman said other women hate her. That was just my take on it.

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Anytime I've heard that (I'm a woman) it's been because the woman has no loyalty or boundaries with other women and will have no conscience about moving in on their men, so they dump her and she ends up with only male companions. She tells herself it's jealousy, but like a severe narcissist or sociopath, she is the one lacking in empathy. She is likely to only feel sorry for herself.

 

Really Preraph? Severe narcissistic or sociopath?

 

There are plenty of women who lie and are purposely deceitful, this is what I meant by my use of 'devious'. No woman you know has ever lied or been deceitful? I am struggling to believe that.

 

I totally agree with your statement though, about hate being too strong of a word when it comes to people, but hate is also an emotion, and it's human nature to present that emotion in a given circumstance.

 

Lots of the women I know have at times ugly hearts, and are purposefully deceitful.

 

There are just too many variables out there to know exactly why this woman said other women hate her. That was just my take on it.

 

I am done judging people in general. It is done waaay too much.

I have seen the worst of the worst and I still say...most of the time when women are ugly to other women it is uncalled for.

There are truly rotten people in the world, no doubt. It is unlikely that OP is referring to a woman who is an A**. More likely she is confused with social skills and pretty. So what?

 

Women being catty to each other is nothing new.

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A buddy of mine told me that whenever a woman says "women hate me", she is trying to imply that they're all jealous, hence why they hate her.

 

Is this true?

 

Way too broad a statement to hold any water in any meaningful sense. Your friend probably had someone specific in mind and just mistakenly slipped in "all women" for one of them. ;)

 

There are good and bad ppl of both genders, and good and bad ppl of both genders judging both types with a variety of personal experiences and value systems informing those judgments, which bscly means it's utterly pointless to try to draw any universal conclusions about anything from it.

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If a woman told me that all women hate her, I'd assume there was a damn good reason. I certainly wouldn't be welcoming her into my circle.

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I've never heard say, "Women hate me" as a complete thought, it was always said just before some self-promoting comment that implied that she was somehow more "guy like" than other women. Then she proceeds to tell you all of the female stereotypes that don't fit her.

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Way too broad a statement to hold any water in any meaningful sense. Your friend probably had someone specific in mind and just mistakenly slipped in "all women" for one of them. ;)

 

There are good and bad ppl of both genders, and good and bad ppl of both genders judging both types with a variety of personal experiences and value systems informing those judgments, which bscly means it's utterly pointless to try to draw any universal conclusions about anything from it.

 

I should be too old to laugh at this...

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