Online Dating for hot guys

February 6, 2016

People like what they like, who on earth do you think you are to give a "wake up call" to women?????
So they should lower their sights should they? As some average/poor looking guys are NOT getting the womanly attention they deserve.... are you for real here?
Everyone has only one life, so why would anyone want to pitch for second best?
This fake pic was of a guy who is supposedly an 8, so hardly out of anyone's league surely?

I was told to lower my sights when I first came on here. As usual the assumption was that I was trying to message really hot women. I wasn't but that didn't stop people telling me that I needed to abandon my standards (even though no one bothered to ask what those standards were).

February 6, 2016

Noone is saying that you are causing forever lasting emotional damage but what you are doing is still mean and childish. And the longer you do it the more jaded you will became because you will come to believe that all women are like that. But the girls who respond to your hot fake guy profile and put up with rude or boring messages dont represent ALL women. Plenty of us check out the hot guy profile but get turned off by a rubbish profile. We are not all desperate to bag a hot guy.
Just out of curiosity..did you put on your pof profile that you have a child?
There are loads of avarage to below average guys who had great luck with OLD. I met all of my exes on old and not one of them was conventionaly hot.

I had that I have a child at first but took it off after a couple of months.

Ok so average to below average guys can have luck with OLD. So thanks, I must be so far below average as to be barely recognisable as human.

February 6, 2016

Do you have female friends, or a sister, who can give you feedback?

Well........?

February 6, 2016

I had that I have a child at first but took it off after a couple of months.

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Why did you take it off?

February 6, 2016

Well........?

I have female friends but none I'd go to for things like this. It'd be weird. Besides they know me as the confident guy who can do and get away with anything. They wouldn't even understand the gap between how I am perceived IRL and on these sites.

February 6, 2016

Why did you take it off?

To see if it was hampering me. It seems as though it wasn't really making any difference either way. I put it back on when I made a new profile a couple of weeks ago.

February 6, 2016

People like what they like, who on earth do you think you are to give a "wake up call" to women?????
So they should lower their sights should they? As some average/poor looking guys are NOT getting the womanly attention they deserve.... are you for real here?
Everyone has only one life, so why would anyone want to pitch for second best?
This fake pic was of a guy who is supposedly an 8, so hardly out of anyone's league surely?

If everyone had that attitude then there would be no relationships because every woman everywhere would be sat around feeling entitled to date Leonardo di Caprio. If it aint working (and if you are on OLD it looks like it isn't) you might want to,y'know, try a bit of introspection perhaps. Problem is that is a symptom of the age we live in now, people want the best and never stop to look at what they actually offer in return to justify why they deserve the best.

Christ, whatever happened to a sense of realism? If you are on a dating site that is likely to be because you can't meet suitable people in real life, that ahould make you more amenable to all sorts of prospects but it actually seems to make people pickier. Ah well, if they want to end up forever alone because Christian Bale refuses to pick up the phone then good luck to them. Not my circus, not my clowns....

February 6, 2016

My very favourite is one I've just been reading from a thread that is about 6 years old now. Pretty much the same complaints from guys. A fair amount of stuff about confidence, attitude etc is given as advice and then, 3,2,1...'I don't find conventionally good looking men to be attractive personally'. Every time. Like clockwork.

It seems that not a single woman finds conventionally hot guys to be hot..

That is just twisted up. Please link the thread, because what I think you wrote there was that people wrote about confidence, attitude, etc a lot, and THEN somebody posts that she doesn't find conventionally good looking men attractive.

Then you suddenly jump to "it seems that not a single woman finds conventionally hot guys to be attractive."

And from this completely outlandish disposal of logic, you decide to mess with strangers on the Internet and steal somebody's identity.

Wow. You are the type of person who would do this. Maybe something about that is coming through and is contributing to your dating problems?? Because none of the standup guys (or girls for that matter) would EVER stoop to that.

People find attractive people attractive.

You don't need to harm strangers in order to discover this. It's a well known fact.

February 6, 2016

If everyone had that attitude then there would be no relationships because every woman everywhere would be sat around feeling entitled to date Leonardo di Caprio. If it aint working (and if you are on OLD it looks like it isn't) you might want to,y'know, try a bit of introspection perhaps. Problem is that is a symptom of the age we live in now, people want the best and never stop to look at what they actually offer in return to justify why they deserve the best.

This is just not true. Needing to feel attracted to somebody in order to date them has nothing to do with "entitlement."

If a person is only attracted to people who are way out of their reach then too bad for them. If none of those people go for them, they can either be alone or start to expand their parameters.

Would you guys all be cheering about a fat girl who posted a hot girl pic and then played games with all the guys who responded to it??

February 6, 2016

For a blast from the past on this exact subject, from 2005:

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/off-topic/water-cooler/74616-experiment-online-match-making-sites

February 6, 2016

For a blast from the past on this exact subject, from 2005:

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/off-topic/water-cooler/74616-experiment-online-match-making-sites

Speaking of which. Here's the woman, the author of this article. That put up two diff. profiles. One of her when she was a size 10 and rather pleasing to the eye...to her current size 18, obese size.

Do men like fat women? My size 18 online dating profile vs size 10 | Metro News

Her outcome was rather disturbing, as she was more insecure about how she looked when she was thin she was and embraced her current state of obesity.

She said she got more emails as the former size 10 and got less emails as a size 18...but still...they were a lot of emails double digits within a week regardless. So by her logic, she'll stick to how big she is and not bother to stay healthy because, well, she's got "enough" men contacting her.

Check out her captions underneath her size 10 and 18 photos. She actually spoke negatively about the size 10 one. Said something about having to still hide her hips with her wrap (big deal.) But was "having fun" in her size 18 photo.

February 6, 2016

Recent update. Saw a new face on POF. Local lady in my small town, my age range...40-something. Cute, but I would put her in the average category. Her turn around time was so quick in viewing and then answering meant she only looked at the pictures and nothing more.

"Sorry, but I don't feel a connection, I wish you luck in your search."

She was pretty fast in responding, too fast to even read anything at length.

February 6, 2016

Her outcome was rather disturbing, as she was more insecure about how she looked when she was thin she was and embraced her current state of obesity.

Why do you find it "disturbing" that a person you don't even know is more comfortable when she's fatter??

She said she got more emails as the former size 10 and got less emails as a size 18...but still...they were a lot of emails double digits within a week regardless. So by her logic, she'll stick to how big she is and not bother to stay healthy because, well, she's got "enough" men contacting her.

I don't think she is gauging her positive attitude by the number of men who are contacting her. She is in a better state of mind now than she was at size 10, having more or less men contacting her is not going to make a difference in that.

Check out her captions underneath her size 10 and 18 photos. She actually spoke negatively about the size 10 one. Said something about having to still hide her hips with her wrap (big deal.) But was "having fun" in her size 18 photo.

February 7, 2016

1, This is exactly what I have said. OLD is shallow and both men and women only go on looks on these sites.

Some? Yes. Many? Probably. All - absolutely not.

The guy I'm seeing currently had NO pictures on his profile due to his profession. Yes, he sent them to me privately, and yes, I found him attractive, but I'd have met him even without the pictures because of the interactions we'd had. Attraction is important, but you can look like <insert whichever male movie star is popular these days here> but I won't go out with you if you're an ass or have no personality.

February 7, 2016

That is just twisted up. Please link the thread, because what I think you wrote there was that people wrote about confidence, attitude, etc a lot, and THEN somebody posts that she doesn't find conventionally good looking men attractive.

Then you suddenly jump to "it seems that not a single woman finds conventionally hot guys to be attractive."

And from this completely outlandish disposal of logic, you decide to mess with strangers on the Internet and steal somebody's identity.

Wow. You are the type of person who would do this. Maybe something about that is coming through and is contributing to your dating problems?? Because none of the standup guys (or girls for that matter) would EVER stoop to that.

People find attractive people attractive.

You don't need to harm strangers in order to discover this. It's a well known fact.

I think you have got both the ordering of events and their significance confused.

The comment about how women never seem to find conventionally attractive people attractive was just an observation that in every thread you can find on here, whether it's a man or a woman complaining about their looks and how this affects their datability (for want of a better word) everyone suddenly decides to tell them not to worry but they, personally, don't even find hot guys/girls attractive. It's a way of trying to make people feel better about themselves. To me, I hear that and think, well if beauty really is so subjective then what you're saying is I am REALLY ugly if no one is attracted to me.

This didn't LEAD ME to creating a fake profile. As I've said a thousand times, I didn't create the fake profile thinking 'I wonder if this really good looking guy will get any attention'. But I think the sheer imbalance between what the good looking profiles get and what my profile could get is quite a knock to the idea that people are not simply playing a more elaborate game of 'Hot or Not' on OLD sites.

If I create the exact same profile and send out the exact same messages I can get about 5-10 messages A YEAR from different women with my photos. I can get about 500 A WEEK with the good looking photos. Now if you're comfortable with that kind of imbalance, fine. You must already have had a far lower opinion of human nature than I previously held.

Edited February 7, 2016 by AverageJoe1986

February 7, 2016

in every thread you can find on here, whether it's a man or a woman complaining about their looks and how this affects their datability (for want of a better word) everyone suddenly decides to tell them not to worry but they, personally, don't even find hot guys/girls attractive. It's a way of trying to make people feel better about themselves.

If you will take your blinders off for a while and look around, you will see dozens and dozens of couples where one or both of the people is not conventionally attractive. I guess it must have been something about their personality or their vibe or character or something ... Because it's clearly not because of hotness.

If I create the exact same profile and send out the exact same messages I can get about 5-10 messages A YEAR from different women with my photos. I can get about 500 A WEEK with the good looking photos. Now if you're comfortable with that kind of imbalance, fine. You must already have had a far lower opinion of human nature than I previously held.

Well I think you're making a big mistake by using this as a gauge of human nature. OLD is a place where people look at pictures and if they like what they see, they read the profile. What's wrong with that? Nobody is actively seeking to date someone who they do not find attractive.

OTOH, real life is a place where you get to know a person at the same time that you are looking at them. Their personality, humor, energy and admirable qualities are right there in front of you. When you are falling for all those things a person starts looking better and better to you even if they are not "conventionally hot."

My fiancee is not "conventionally hot" but I love him. It's because of who he is. He's my type.

February 7, 2016

If Well I think you're making a big mistake by using this as a gauge of human nature. OLD is a place where people look at pictures and if they like what they see, they read the profile. What's wrong with that? Nobody is actively seeking to date someone who they do not find attractive.

OK, that's fine. Then when someone comes onto this website and says that they are getting no response whatsoever with OLD can we just tell them that it's all about looking at pictures and your looks rather than pretend that their profile must be giving out some weird 'vibe' or something equally inane.

February 7, 2016

OK, that's fine. Then when someone comes onto this website and says that they are getting no response whatsoever with OLD can we just tell them that it's all about looking at pictures and your looks rather than pretend that their profile must be giving out some weird 'vibe' or something equally inane.

No. We can tell them how to make their profile better, including the pictures, so that it captures more interest.

That's what people have to do when they aren't just straight up HAWT. Try harder, or different.

I happen to know (because of real life) that not hot people have gotten together through OLD. It's not freakish. They must have figured out a way to promote who they were in that environment, even though they are not super good looking. In fact, I will give you one example - he is an avid rock climber and his profile picture was him in all his gear, hanging on some impossible cliff, you could hardly see his face because of a helmet and some kind of sun glasses or goggles but he had this gigantic smile! (My friend showed me his profile.) He is super impassioned about his sport, she got that, a person who's full of passion for something is what she really digs, so she contacted him.

He is NOT hot. She is much better looking than he is IMO. He does have a very athletic body and great lower arms (I am a lower arm fan!!) He's a pretty awesome guy and she loves him.

February 7, 2016

He does have a very athletic body and great lower arms

Yes, he sounds repulsive. How did he ever find someone?

February 8, 2016

So now I've had a change of pace. Photos are of a 9/10 guy. Almost the definition of tall, dark and handsome. But I've made him lack all ambition. He works at a supermarket and has nver ben travelling outside the UK. He like the pub and football and has very little to say for himself really.

Well naturally he's just as popular as my previous guys. I had a great time yesterday with a lady who had tried it on with my previous guy. When I asked her before why she messaged me it was because of 'my' intelligence (I was a university lecturer) and ambition (also writing a book).

Now she seems to be attracted to guys who work to live and are happy to make their leisure time the centre of their lives. Wow, that's a fast turnaround in priorities. I've had a doctor flirting with me, and a woman who describes herself as a workaholic solicitor. I can imagine 'Simon' at one of their dinner parties: 'I like the pub, football and X Factor'. Oh how they'll warm to him.

February 8, 2016

I hope your doctor and solicitor lady whose time you are wasting are also some bored guy pretending to be something they are not.

It is very easy to spot fake profiles. I bet a lot of women is just having a laugh with your hot guy profile while they know full well that he doesnt exist.

Whats the profile name of your 2 hot guys? let me check them out.

I will message you and i bet you will think that im just another desperate girl. Wanna bet?

February 8, 2016

The only thing the OP is learning by his [experiment] is that yes indeed, there are plenty of women who are attracted to hot guys.

OP - duh. And there is nothing wrong with it. If you aren't a good looking guy you are going to have to find the women who actually are NOT that interested in looks. Of which there are many.

I'm sure no matter what you look like, you could make some improvements. Almost all of us can. []

That's depressing.

Edited February 8, 2016 by a LoveShack.org Moderator
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February 8, 2016

Yes, he sounds repulsive. How did he ever find someone?

Oh. Did I say he was repulsive? His nice arms were not visible in the profile. She got to know about them after they'd met.

So you actually think women who are not superficial should be happy to go out with a guy who looks "repulsive"? Right.

February 9, 2016

I hope your doctor and solicitor lady whose time you are wasting are also some bored guy pretending to be something they are not.
It is very easy to spot fake profiles. I bet a lot of women is just having a laugh with your hot guy profile while they know full well that he doesnt exist.
Whats the profile name of your 2 hot guys? let me check them out.
I will message you and i bet you will think that im just another desperate girl. Wanna bet?

Oh I would think it was hilarious if they were doing the same thing.

I really think you're overrating people's intelligence in this matter. Believe me the most banal conversations on God's Earth have managed to occur with my profiles. They are having the meekest of laughs if that's what you think.

I have no doubt whatsoever that you could convince me that you're another deperate girl. That fact is completely irrelevant. The point here isn't 'Oh look how easy it is to fool people', the point is 'Oh look how easy it is to make people want to get to know you based solely on a few pretty pictures'.

February 9, 2016

TheOP - duh. And there is nothing wrong with it. If you aren't a good looking guy you are going to have to find the women who actually are NOT that interested in looks. Of which there are many.

Yeah, well good luck finding them anywhere online.

As I couldn't get a decent response from a woman in over six months of trying I must either look like something that hangs from Beelzebub's bare bottom or I must have accidentally written on my profile that I was a notorious sex-pest without realising.

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