OLD and women borrowing money

[Gloria25]

I'll keep this short.. I recently got back into OLD after a relationship ended. Two women have asked to borrow money from me after the meet. One I had some interest in and with the most recent one there was no interest on my side. The dates generally went as planned, meeting for a drink and then talking about getting together again. The level of intimacy was kissing, nothing more (not that it should matter). Yet twice now I've been asked a day or two after the date to borrow money. One gave an exact amount of $580 for urgent house bills. Have any of you guys run into this? It's making me very skeptical of women on these OLD sites.

Neither got a penny by the way!

 

I just turned on LS and saw this topic, and am glad it was raised cuz yea, while I've been tired of the fake/flakey men on OLD, for a while I've sorta noticed that the women seem a bit "toooo" hot to be on OLD.

 

I even was checking out this idiot on a military dating website. Get this, she's in platform, tall heels taking a full body picture of herself in short-shorts and a push-up bra claiming she's looking for the "love of her life" cuz she "loved and lost". And, she tries to pass herself off as a "mom" who's going to school for nursing....ok, whatever. Sounds like a dependa on the hunt for another idiot to give her Tricare.

 

I highlighted the part of the thread above ^^ cuz yes, if they're only kissing you - that is something important to pay attention to. My close-up experience with the "town Ho" that some dude dumped me for? That was her "game". She'd kiss, touch, and sometimes give them a "free-bee, one-time sex" to get their appetite wet, and then comes the sob story and/or demands for money. And, unfortunately, some men - once they get sex, they can't think straight and are more likely to give into her cuz they want more of the "crack" (sex, and/or fantasies of where the kissing would lead to).

 

I must say that I'm disappointed with OLD. I wonder if that's one reason why I don't get a lot of responses/hits, cuz they might wonder if I'm just another Ho on there - especially when I put the money I make. I mean, I've gotten several guys tell me that they think I'm out of their league

 

Now, when it comes to men, I did have one guy seem to try to hit me up with money. We were texting and he was like, 'oh, I had a bad weekend, I lost my debit card'...and I was like 'oh, looks like you'll have to write checks until you find it/get it replaced' and I never contacted him again and never heard from him again.

 

I say report them, report them, report them...I mean, if the websites won't do enough to filter out the crap, hopefully reporting them will get it done.

[Gloria25]

Their "Plan B" would have been to get off their lazy butts and from behind the computer to actually "walk" the streets in search of "marks".

 

I see this in real life now and then. When I was in the military, the "town HO" that I got dumped for? That was her "j....o....b", to troll places military frequented to hook marks. Like I'd be invited to a party, picnic, etc at a sergeant's house and there she was: heels, hair, nails and painted on jeans. I'd go to the club, there she was. Once she got into certain cliques, it was like she was trying to pass herself off as like a simple "friend of a friend" so people won't figure out what she was all about.

 

And, I once asked what she did for a living....Get this: she "cleaned houses":lmao: Yeah, right...cleaning houses with nails like those? Ok, whatever. Maybe she should try the other "professions" that professional ho's try to say they are in like "real estate" or "student".

 

BTW, they never will run out of "marks"...cuz like the saying goes, 'every day a sucker is born' And, trust me, I know of one who is in love with the military dependa. He's obsessed about her and think she's such a sweet, loving thing

[dreamingoftigers]

Plan B is just finding another host.

The guy that I was "borrowing" money from me also used:

-his ex wife

-his ex gf

- 3-4 guys that were friends of his

- new old/irl dates

- new "friends"

Etc etc

Each of them received a sobby story to give their cash (mine was his ex gf was stealing from him - turned the opposite!)

 

I had a female friend like this.

 

I think she actually felt entitled to do it because she was "so hard done by."

 

She would go out at least a few times a week and stick other people with babysitting her kids. I did that a couple of times. She said she'd be back at midnight and showed up at FIVE.

 

Then she'd whinge about how "no one ever repaid favors" on Facebook. I have no idea what favor she was talking about or who she EVER did one for.

 

But she had plans A through at least E or F for who was on the list next to use. Diabolical.

[jdubinva]

I just turned on LS and saw this topic, and am glad it was raised cuz yea, while I've been tired of the fake/flakey men on OLD, for a while I've sorta noticed that the women seem a bit "toooo" hot to be on OLD.

 

I even was checking out this idiot on a military dating website. Get this, she's in platform, tall heels taking a full body picture of herself in short-shorts and a push-up bra claiming she's looking for the "love of her life" cuz she "loved and lost". And, she tries to pass herself off as a "mom" who's going to school for nursing....ok, whatever. Sounds like a dependa on the hunt for another idiot to give her Tricare.

 

I highlighted the part of the thread above ^^ cuz yes, if they're only kissing you - that is something important to pay attention to. My close-up experience with the "town Ho" that some dude dumped me for? That was her "game". She'd kiss, touch, and sometimes give them a "free-bee, one-time sex" to get their appetite wet, and then comes the sob story and/or demands for money. And, unfortunately, some men - once they get sex, they can't think straight and are more likely to give into her cuz they want more of the "crack" (sex, and/or fantasies of where the kissing would lead to).

 

I must say that I'm disappointed with OLD. I wonder if that's one reason why I don't get a lot of responses/hits, cuz they might wonder if I'm just another Ho on there - especially when I put the money I make. I mean, I've gotten several guys tell me that they think I'm out of their league

 

Now, when it comes to men, I did have one guy seem to try to hit me up with money. We were texting and he was like, 'oh, I had a bad weekend, I lost my debit card'...and I was like 'oh, looks like you'll have to write checks until you find it/get it replaced' and I never contacted him again and never heard from him again.

 

I say report them, report them, report them...I mean, if the websites won't do enough to filter out the crap, hopefully reporting them will get it done.

 

If either had slept with me do you think it would have made it any different or right? We had just met! With one I should have known something was up because at the last minute she asked me to pick her up because of car issues. Like some have pointed out, I'm lucky they showed their true colors early so I could cut my losses and move on. It's all just disappointing though.

[No_Go]

Yes, people like your friend or my ex just feel like others are obliged to help them... They live that way because people feel like heroes to help them, thinking that's their only chance to make it through, while the naked truth is the helpers are just one of many "hosts" being exploited...

 

I had a female friend like this.

 

I think she actually felt entitled to do it because she was "so hard done by."

 

She would go out at least a few times a week and stick other people with babysitting her kids. I did that a couple of times. She said she'd be back at midnight and showed up at FIVE.

 

Then she'd whinge about how "no one ever repaid favors" on Facebook. I have no idea what favor she was talking about or who she EVER did one for.

 

But she had plans A through at least E or F for who was on the list next to use. Diabolical.

[preraph]

And remember that free dating sites have more con artists and prostitutes than paid ones, but they are everywhere. Think of it. A dating site is simply a free marketing site for those types. And you must also know that usually whoever they say they are or photos they post are not even them. It's some dude from Nigeria or some obese woman with time on her hands using someone else's photos. And if it IS them, even more reason to block them and run.

[stillafool]

OP, those women sound like hookers who are using OLD to get their money. Stop talking to them. The moment they ask for money disconnect without saying a word.

[jdubinva]

OP, those women sound like hookers who are using OLD to get their money. Stop talking to them. The moment they ask for money disconnect without saying a word.

 

If they are hookers then they're really good at what they do. The main sign I should have been deterred by was the lack of any real sounding job. They know they can get so far with their looks but I doubt these women would ever be walking the streets. The sad fact is I bet there are tons of guys who do/would give them money.

 

And the lack of female input HERE makes me wonder whether it hits close to home.

[dreamingoftigers]

If they are hookers then they're really good at what they do. The main sign I should have been deterred by was the lack of any real sounding job. They know they can get so far with their looks but I doubt these women would ever be walking the streets. The sad fact is I bet there are tons of guys who do/would give them money.

 

And the lack of female input HERE makes me wonder whether it hits close to home.

 

*cough cough*

[spiderowl]

As a woman, I've never had this kind of thing happen, except with the obvious scammer profiles but I just report them.

 

I'm sorry this has happened to you because I think it's disgusting behaviour. These women are clearly just after money.

 

The only thing I would say is that you need to check your profile and see if you aren't maybe 'flaunting' your wealth in some way, e.g. showing a flash car, talking about property you have, or how you like fine foods and wine, that kind of thing. I think sometimes guys get disillusioned about the kinds of women that approach them, when they are actually putting themselves forward in a way that 'draws' that kind of attention.

 

Having said the above, there are always people who will look for someone to manipulate. You will probably find these kinds of women will be pushy from the start, messaging you and urging you to meet up with them quickly. They have no need to check out what kind of person a guy is because they are more interested in his money.

 

There are genuine women out there, honest! x

Edited January 18, 2016 by spiderowl

[truth_seeker]

I've been playing around with Tinder the last couple of weeks and connected the other day with this woman. Two days straight of texting. She seemed nice. She tells me she will be at this bar this week - specific day and time - and then all of the sudden deleted me.

 

Go figure. Maybe she was a scammer?

[jdubinva]

I've been playing around with Tinder the last couple of weeks and connected the other day with this woman. Two days straight of texting. She seemed nice. She tells me she will be at this bar this week - specific day and time - and then all of the sudden deleted me.

 

Go figure. Maybe she was a scammer?

 

Sorry you wasted your time. It's a bit different though don't you think?

[spiderowl]

I guess POF falls into that category since I'm not on any other sites.

 

You get them everywhere OP. You just have to be on the look-out. You can bet these women will be pushy and ask questions about money and material possessions. They won't be able to help themselves. They will probably declare their love and interest very early on too.

[dreamingoftigers]

 

And the lack of female input HERE makes me wonder whether it hits close to home.

 

Well, I just had to respond to this jerkishness.

 

I just reread your thread.

You did ask for guy input, but it turned out that you actually got A LOT of female input right up until this comment (and then some after).

 

Males that posted:

SwordofFlame

Fitnessfan365

Robratory

Carhill

Ami1uwant

Wewon

Sambolini

Meanthingsisaid

Truth_seeker

 

Total: 9 posters; 11 posts

 

Females that posted:

 

No_Go

Preraph

Lily_blue

Kendahke

Rejected Rosebud

Methodical

Dobielover

Bobbi7

Gloria25

Stillafool

& yours truly dreamingoftigers

 

Total posters: 11 total posts: 17

 

There was more FEMALE posting & posters than male.

Not that a sample size of approximately 20 people is an accurate global sample to determine if women in general are OLD hookers (seriously!).

 

So I'll ask you some other questions:

 

1. Do you post your salary in your dating profile?

2. Do you brag about your financial acquisitions on dates 1 or 2? You see my father tells everyone how he just has so much money and he's "really really rich." He thinks it makes him more likeable. (Gag) However he gets asked often if he can loan people money (duh). Frankly, it gets very very very old very very very quickly.

3. Do you have a job that is linked with the impression of great wealth?

4. Do you mention financial security etc. As an asset in your profile?

5. Do you take your dates to "the nicest place in town" instead of coffee on a first meeting?

 

Or is it just a run of bad luck on a free dating site?

[Art_Critic]

you know the rule... always borrow money from a pessimist. he won't expect it back.

[sambolini]

The only thing I would say is that you need to check your profile and see if you aren't maybe 'flaunting' your wealth in some way, e.g. showing a flash car, talking about property you have, or how you like fine foods and wine, that kind of thing. I think sometimes guys get disillusioned about the kinds of women that approach them, when they are actually putting themselves forward in a way that 'draws' that kind of attention.

 

I know you mean well, but I just had to respond to this.

 

The prevailing argument is that women can wear as revealing of clothes as they want and say "I'm still not asking for it". In other words, they can flaunt their physical assets while demanding that they still be approached on their terms.

 

I don't see how such an argument couldn't also apply here. A man should be able to say, "I'm financially successful, have property, and like fine foods and wine" without being targeted by gold-diggers; just like a woman should be able to wear whatever she wants without being catcalled.

 

Fair is fair...right?

[No_Go]

Indeed, and on top a female (me) gave him a personal experience with a man from OLD who did the same, i.e. 'Borrowing' money.

 

I really want to make a point here that conartists exist in both genders, 'all women are hookers because I'm a man' just don't cut it for me...

 

Well, I just had to respond to this jerkishness.

 

I just reread your thread.

You did ask for guy input, but it turned out that you actually got A LOT of female input right up until this comment (and then some after).

 

Males that posted:

SwordofFlame

Fitnessfan365

Robratory

Carhill

Ami1uwant

Wewon

Sambolini

Meanthingsisaid

Truth_seeker

 

Total: 9 posters; 11 posts

 

Females that posted:

 

No_Go

Preraph

Lily_blue

Kendahke

Rejected Rosebud

Methodical

Dobielover

Bobbi7

Gloria25

Stillafool

& yours truly dreamingoftigers

 

Total posters: 11 total posts: 17

 

There was more FEMALE posting & posters than male.

Not that a sample size of approximately 20 people is an accurate global sample to determine if women in general are OLD hookers (seriously!).

 

So I'll ask you some other questions:

 

1. Do you post your salary in your dating profile?

2. Do you brag about your financial acquisitions on dates 1 or 2? You see my father tells everyone how he just has so much money and he's "really really rich." He thinks it makes him more likeable. (Gag) However he gets asked often if he can loan people money (duh). Frankly, it gets very very very old very very very quickly.

3. Do you have a job that is linked with the impression of great wealth?

4. Do you mention financial security etc. As an asset in your profile?

5. Do you take your dates to "the nicest place in town" instead of coffee on a first meeting?

 

Or is it just a run of bad luck on a free dating site?

[truth_seeker]

Sorry you wasted your time. It's a bit different though don't you think?

 

Yes. I was just sharing my story as one minute you think you met a cool person, but the next they're gone without any reason.

 

Oh, another woman I connected with asked me flat out: "Do you make enough money to afford me?" lol. No offense to this woman, but she's average looking acting like a Hollywood Movie Star.

Edited January 18, 2016 by truth_seeker

[dreamingoftigers]

Indeed, and on top a female (me) gave him a personal experience with a man from OLD who did the same, i.e. 'Borrowing' money.

 

I really want to make a point here that conartists exist in both genders, 'all women are hookers because I'm a man' just don't cut it for me...

 

I've been heavily financially used in two relationships.

 

Just neither I met on OLD and it was after a bit of time with the second one.

 

The first one ghosted the second I stopped handing over half of my paycheque.

[sambolini]

"Do you make enough money to afford me?"

 

My answer: "Yes, but I choose not to."

 

Damn, dude. Where do you live that you're finding these grotesque individuals??

[No_Go]

Your post proves further gender and place of first encounter (OLD vs IRL) is irrelevant for the conartists - they'll do it anyway, if they can.

 

For the record the first man that conned me with money was an ex-BF that I met IRL, and also nearly two decades older than me (to break the third stereotype young partner uses old partner, we were the opposite)

 

I've been heavily financially used in two relationships.

 

Just neither I met on OLD and it was after a bit of time with the second one.

 

The first one ghosted the second I stopped handing over half of my paycheque.

[Gloria25]

If they are hookers then they're really good at what they do. The main sign I should have been deterred by was the lack of any real sounding job. They know they can get so far with their looks but I doubt these women would ever be walking the streets. The sad fact is I bet there are tons of guys who do/would give them money.

 

And the lack of female input HERE makes me wonder whether it hits close to home.

 

The lack of female input is cuz IMO, groups of people regardless by race, gender, etc, don't wanna be honest and admit they got dirty laundry.

 

BTW, I don't consider these women "hookers" and/or "prostitutes" per se, but they are using what they can to get a quick buck out of guys both online/offline. Sometimes the play on a guy's emotions and/or offer sex - even if it's one pop of sex, followed by endless manipulations cuz he is hoping to get more sex out of them.

 

I have a friend who has another "friend". She'll call my friend out of the blue asking for "help" to pay celphone, water, etc. My friend feels sorry for her and always shells out a buck or so to "help".

 

I don't know what to label these women? "Blue collar golddiggers"?

[oregon0011]

I'll keep this short.. I recently got back into OLD after a relationship ended. Two women have asked to borrow money from me after the meet. One I had some interest in and with the most recent one there was no interest on my side. The dates generally went as planned, meeting for a drink and then talking about getting together again. The level of intimacy was kissing, nothing more (not that it should matter). Yet twice now I've been asked a day or two after the date to borrow money. One gave an exact amount of $580 for urgent house bills. Have any of you guys run into this? It's making me very skeptical of women on these OLD sites.

Neither got a penny by the way!

 

I started a thread on this. Yes it is extremely common. Either wanting to borrow money. Trade money for sex. Have an arrangement. Etc.

 

Girls get a lot of date offers online, so the next step is to make money off it.

Edited January 18, 2016 by oregon0011

[truth_seeker]

My answer: "Yes, but I choose not to."

 

Damn, dude. Where do you live that you're finding these grotesque individuals??

 

It's Tinder... not really the highest quality of people.

[sambolini]

It's Tinder... not really the highest quality of people.

 

Ohhh...I thought were still talking about POF. Even I've never seen that before!

 

Is Tinder really that much worse?