hasaquestion Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 The problem with starting a thread like this is that: 1. Metrosexual isn't defined. 2. What passes as metrosexual in Indiana might not be metrosexual in New York. There are significant regional differences in what amount of effort is "acceptable" to put into your appearance. Can we get a definition here?
Buddhist Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 The funny thing is, all this talk about traditional masculinity is kind of bunk. Traditionally, as in according to history, men have been leaders in look. They invented fashion, cosmetics and hairdressing. Not for women, but for themselves. Nearly everything we call a woman's fashion now, was actually adopted from male fashion centuries ago. Take a look at historical paintings, you'll see wigs, makeup, even high heels, lacey handkerchiefs and not one of these men was concerned about whether or not he appeared masculine. The truth is, this focus on being manly is a very recent invention and comes from the New World where frontier men were important. They were rough and rugged because they weren't gentlemen. But were forging new lives in harsh terrain, and got free land in return for the risk. It's not a hangover from the paleolithic era because as soon as civilisation came along so did the desire for refinement. People just forget the origins of all this stuff. And so now men doing what they've always done, made themselves look good according to their own preferences, is seen as some kind of feminist evil and maligned by tying it to sexual preference. But it has nothing to do with feminism. Metrosexual have been around as long as people have been living in towns. It used to be class related, now it's not.
Samhain Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 The funny thing is, all this talk about traditional masculinity is kind of bunk. Traditionally, as in according to history, men have been leaders in look. They invented fashion, cosmetics and hairdressing. Not for women, but for themselves. Nearly everything we call a woman's fashion now, was actually adopted from male fashion centuries ago. Take a look at historical paintings, you'll see wigs, makeup, even high heels, lacey handkerchiefs and not one of these men was concerned about whether or not he appeared masculine. The truth is, this focus on being manly is a very recent invention and comes from the New World where frontier men were important. They were rough and rugged because they weren't gentlemen. But were forging new lives in harsh terrain, and got free land in return for the risk. It's not a hangover from the paleolithic era because as soon as civilisation came along so did the desire for refinement. People just forget the origins of all this stuff. And so now men doing what they've always done, made themselves look good according to their own preferences, is seen as some kind of feminist evil and maligned by tying it to sexual preference. But it has nothing to do with feminism. Metrosexual have been around as long as people have been living in towns. It used to be class related, now it's not. But we were all cavemen at one time. I wonder what happened to the ones who had a side parting, shaven chest, and an umbrella instead of a club .. Probably didn't get their pick of the local women. 1
hasaquestion Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 But we were all cavemen at one time. I wonder what happened to the ones who had a side parting, shaven chest, and an umbrella instead of a club .. Probably didn't get their pick of the local women. They were all hipsters. They only ate local produce. 1
Wewon Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 Why does it have to be either/or though? Well-dressed, clean shaven, hairless body ...or *schluby* and *gross*? There is a middle ground there, and many men fall into that category. For example, I am attracted to ambitious and successful ...but would not be attracted to a "mover and a shaker." I like a man to be very masculine, with an edge, but dislike an overly hairy body as well. A few hairs on the chest would suit me just fine. I want a man to be attractive (to me) who takes pride in his appearance (without being overly focused on it)... ...but am not attracted to GQ/male model types.... I just don't get the two *extremes* as presented by some on this thread. There IS a middle ground! I was wondering the same thing, it sounds like people are getting into the trenches with their respective strawmen in order to make some kind of a point. "Oh, you don't like MY guy?! Well let me tell you about YOUR guy?!" I bet that most people can find a middle ground between a guy that looks like he just finished cleaning a barn in the middle of July and a guy that sits in the mirror licking and grooming himself like a Siamese cat. Either extreme implies some kind of weird obsession.
jen1447 Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 But we were all cavemen at one time. I wonder what happened to the ones who had a side parting, shaven chest, and an umbrella instead of a club .. Probably didn't get their pick of the local women. Maybe their ancestors became these 'lumbersexuals.' 1
brothers343 Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 I guess is almost like being bald.......i shave my head becouse i like it not becouse I'm going bald. Im in the rescue field so at times it suites me. I like a woman that takes time to look good and smell good. The first thing we usually see is the outer of the individual at first ....it's what attracts us to each other. I think man can pass for both (metro sexual and rugged) I like looking good, I like dressing nice, smelling good and all that comes with that perception. But again i can also be rugged.
Samhain Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 I guess is almost like being bald.......i shave my head becouse i like it not becouse I'm going bald. Im in the rescue field so at times it suites me. I like a woman that takes time to look good and smell good. The first thing we usually see is the outer of the individual at first ....it's what attracts us to each other. I think man can pass for both (metro sexual and rugged) I like looking good, I like dressing nice, smelling good and all that comes with that perception. But again i can also be rugged. Stick around, it honestly wouldn't surprise me if in 2 years time "baldrosexual" was all the next rage.
Buddhist Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 But we were all cavemen at one time. I wonder what happened to the ones who had a side parting, shaven chest, and an umbrella instead of a club .. Probably didn't get their pick of the local women. I don't know, they seem to be out in numbers now. Doesn't that kind of tell you they succeeded? Maybe they were the ones sexing up all the women in the cave while the strong manly guys were out chasing mammoths and stuff. Neolithic dandies may have had the right idea.
Samhain Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 Heh, I don't know. What I do know is we call them pansies where I come from. But that'd be the very stereotypical manicure/pedicure always in the mirror tweezing type of male. I wouldn't consider somebody who takes care of personal hygiene and takes pride in how they dress the majority of the time as any type of "sexual", just normal.
jen1447 Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 Maybe they were the ones sexing up all the women in the cave while the strong manly guys were out chasing mammoths and stuff. I always figured that was the other cavewomen. Nothing new under the sun.
brothers343 Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 Stick around, it honestly wouldn't surprise me if in 2 years time "baldrosexual" was all the next rage. Baldrosexual....that's funny. But haven't you noticed that the (rage) has already started.
thecrucible Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 No I don't like metro as it's a complete sexual turn off for me. I like a man to have personal hygiene but I don't want him to spend longer getting ready than me and I like guys who are kind of rugged and have some sexy stubble like Aragorn in Lord of the Rings. I like a guy to have some sensitivity but I don't want a big girl's blouse. He should be my rock.
Woggle Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 Metrosexual is more of an attitude and mentality than a look. You see a lot of men these days and it's like their balls have been deflated or something. They don't have that mmmph that men used to have even as little as 15 years ago. 1
hasaquestion Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 Metrosexual is more of an attitude and mentality than a look. You see a lot of men these days and it's like their balls have been deflated or something. They don't have that mmmph that men used to have even as little as 15 years ago. Now we're getting somewhere! What are examples of attitudes that make someone a metrosexual? What does a metrosexual do? Think? not do? Not think?
Ruby Slippers Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 I don't find the metrosexual vibe attractive in the slightest. The metro men in the office where I recently started working kind of look and sound like girls to me. They're fun to chit chat with and very nice people, but the carnal attraction is almost at zero. The manlier the man, the more attracted I am. Now, a manly guy dressed up in an understated but well-fitting suit - yeah, that's hot. But he'll be the quiet one who commands the room just with his presence and focus on the work to be done. That kind of energy will send me into a fit of dreamtime fantasies over him
Woggle Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 It is not about dress because I have known men who liked to wear makeup and cross dress had more masculine energy than today's new man. David Bowie and Prince were masculine than today's boy bands. 1
Redfisher Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 If you were to put your beard in a little ponytail, or perhaps add a man bun, and then wear a very fitted flannel with skinny jeans, and an arm full of leather bracelets, you'd be a lumber sexual. They run wild in Northern California. Aka it's a bearded hipster who wears flannel. Aka Brian Wilson. Ahh yes hipsters...... I carry an axe with me so no one confuses me with one.;)Plus I'm 6'1" 200 lbs with tattoos so that helps...haha 1
Gold Pile Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 I once spent a good half hour manscaping my body with a trimmer (not a razor!) The hair on my chest was now uniform, no extra long strays. My dude region was now all short hairs to make my dude part look bigger. The dude part itself was free of anything that would snag on a latex dude cover. If I had any hair on my bum or my back...it was gone now. When I dropped my clothes she grumbled that I was hairy. I once noted that her Father and Brother were hairless at the swimming pool. 1
Ruby Slippers Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 It is not about dress because I have known men who liked to wear makeup and cross dress had more masculine energy than today's new man. David Bowie and Prince were masculine than today's boy bands. See, I don't get a masculine vibe from either of them. I get an adrogynous (male/female) vibe from both of them, even in their manliest clothes and trimmings. But they are sexy - especially Bowie in Labyrinth. Their looks are theatrical, more like costumes than clothes. But yeah, for some men today, it's almost all female energy! Like, they look and sound like GIRLS to me That's cool - I'm just not sexually attracted to feminine energy. I'm viscerally, animally attracted to masculine energy.
Woggle Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 See, I don't get a masculine vibe from either of them. I get an adrogynous (male/female) vibe from both of them, even in their manliest clothes and trimmings. But they are sexy - especially Bowie in Labyrinth. Their looks are theatrical, more like costumes than clothes. But yeah, for some men today, it's almost all female energy! Like, they look and sound like GIRLS to me That's cool - I'm just not sexually attracted to feminine energy. I'm viscerally, animally attracted to masculine energy. Listen to their music though and you get that vibe. They have songs that rock hard as well as ballads which represents a balance and duality that defines masculinity. The best men are rough and tender at the same time. When I listen to modern male singers there is none of that. They have weak voices and the music sounds very weak. They could be 30 years old and it sounds like a 12 year old singing. They are the voice of a weak and emasculated generation of men. 1
Jammer25 Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 I actually find that most women don't like the metro style in my area. The metro guys I know tend to end up friend-zoned if anything. As a guy I like to look good when the time or occasion calls for it, like a fancy night out or in a professional setting. But I don't make it a focus in my lifestyle. (And I just hate hipster types in general.)
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