Girls who dated black guys?

January 8, 2016

Yeah, that penis thing is a total myth.

There are all sizes with all races.

Racist penis theories are bogus.

Thise girls i know that are adult workers confirm this. It's random.

January 8, 2016

Yeah, that penis thing is a total myth.

No it's not. And stating an objective observation isn't racist.

I bring this up because people's "disapproval" of non-black women getting with black guys usually does not have to do with penis insecurities. In my case, the advice from my parents (about not marrying a black person) had nothing to do with penis stereotypes, and had I been born female their advice would obviously had been the same. There is also zero chance that my ex GF's mom, who is 25% black, disapproved of black BF's because of a penis stereotype.

With that said, I'm almost certain that there are those guys that probably would not date a girl that dated a black guy due to insecurities, but a large majority of the time it is due to other reasons.

Two diff things - parental disapproval of dating choices and screening behavior on the part of potential partners.

I'm sure you're right that most white dads don't disapprove of their white daughters dating black guys bc they're afraid of their penises, but the white guys who are dismissing possible partners bc of their interracial dating history are indeed motivated largely by penis envy/insecurity at the core, imo.

January 8, 2016

No it's not. And stating an objective observation isn't racist.

What makes it objective though? How many male penises have you held a ruler next to while fully erect?

Not to jump on you but practically everything which people say about penis lengths has been debunked by experimental method. This includes racial differences which most notably were investigated by the British Journal of Urology and King's College in the UK.

The "Penis size map" that is very common is based on highly discredited research conducted by J. Philippe Rushton in the 80s, whose cause celebre was to argue that responsible Asian cultures evolved small penises because the cultures emphasized small families and intelligence, while unprincipled and savage African cultures evolved larger penises in order to emphasize rapid reproduction and low intelligence. Researchers have been unable to find a meaningful difference in penis sizes across races.

Here's a good summary of a few highly regarded studies performed into the matter by Urology journals.

http://i.imgur.com/bsNrs1u.png

If you want something more contemporary there's this study where the average was confirmed to be 5.57 in with a standard deviation of 1.04 in. Which again, if you are statistically literate suggests that people who are 7" or longer are in fact quite uncommon.

Erect Penile Length and Circumference Dimensions of 1,661 Sexually Active Men in the United States

Debby Herbenick PhD, MPH1,*, Michael Reece PhD, MPH1, Vanessa Schick PhD1 andStephanie A. Sanders PhD2,3

Article first published online: 10 JUL 2013 The Journal of Sexual Medicine

Volume 11, Issue 1, pages 93–101, January 2014

Likewise, Lifestyles (yes the condom brand) did a highly publicized study (on kids on spring break in Cancun!) that produced similar data, albeit with only 400 participants being measured - 50% of men being around 5.5"-6" and roughly 7% being longer than 7".

I'm a guy. I play the game. I've exaggerated my dick size plenty because I know everyone else does. Every time I listen to a girl talking about 8" dicks all I can do is shake my head.

My advice to you is if a guy tells you he is ___ inches long, adjust it in your head appropriately.

January 8, 2016

Anyway, it seems to me like the people who are most racist or are the most insistent on perpetuating racial differences are the ones who are most hung up on black guys having big dicks. After all to a white man who disapproves of black people, painting them as these hung wild sex beasts is a way to dehumanize them, and is subconsciously satisfying. When in fact, black guys are just guys who are black. And they are neither appreciably larger nor any stupider than the rest of us. Ditto Asian folks being neither significantly smaller nor any smarter. Stereotypes are just difficult to break down.

January 8, 2016

No it's not. And stating an objective observation isn't racist.

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Either way, this urban legend is dead wrong.

There are plenty of Asian guys who will tear you in half and plenty of little black guys.

I'm very well blessed in the size department, so I don't have a dog in this fight, but this stereotype is dead wrong.

I know from data. Adult industry sources.

There is no meaningful racial correlation between race and penis size... any more than race and vagina size.

January 8, 2016

I do know the interracial dating rate is pretty high for bm and ww, but the marriage rate is still extremely low compared to other couples. The vast majority of black men marry black women and the vast majority of white women marry white men. And only 30% of black men attend/finish college so I'm not sure how representative college campus dating is for the general public. We're talking about 18 to 21 year olds.

Also, the statistics don't bode well for white women and black men though, so perhaps the negative stereotype is based on that? Studies of interracial marriages show Extremely high divorce rates for black men and white women combined with an extremely high out-of-wedlock childbirth rate. A study said 98% of babies born with black fathers and white mothers are illegitimate and the father is usually not in the picture.

The statistics don't bode well for white women in interracial marriages period, but it is relatively stable for white men for some reason??

For example, black women with white men have pretty stable marriages probably because they tend to marry later in life, both college educated/higher income/ more stable families) etc.

People make racial correlations, but I think those statistics are related more to poverty/ upbringing/ family of origin than race.

My husband is black, I'm white and we've been married 20+ years. He is a great husband and father. He was raised in an intact military family with a present & very involved dad.

I judged him by his character & his values, not his race. And I made a good choice.

Many white guys from broken homes & chaotic childhoods have kids out of wedlock or become absent fathers, just like black guys with a similar upbringing. Now that opiate addiction is affecting so many white families (along with meth out west & in rural areas), we will see even more broken homes & lack of male role models in the white community.

A guy's family of origin, upbringing, values & character are much more important than race when it comes to predicting the kind of father & husband that they'll be.

January 8, 2016

My mom had to hide the fact that she had been with a black guy from several of her later men. They did not want to be where a black guy had been. However ridiculous. And she experienced some major negativity about her dating the guy. She was fearful of being out in public with him because of what she experienced. In Kentucky, early 2000s.

My black was a big guy. 6'4"? His penis was pretty average. Shrug. He was a very nice guy and I rather miss the friendship we had. I have mentioned him to later guys because of what my mom experienced and that kind of attitude totally repulses me. I don't care to be around somebody who carries that kind of attitude inside them.

I agree. This kind of attitude really infuriates me. I've dated men of all races; I don't see what the big deal is, and if some white (or any other color) dude is gonna get in a snit because of it, he can kiss my a** goodbye.

January 8, 2016

Exactly. Ghetto is ghetto regardless of race.

People make racial correlations, but I think those statistics are related more to poverty/ upbringing/ family of origin than race.

My husband is black, I'm white and we've been married 20+ years. He is a great husband and father. He was raised in an intact military family with a present & very involved dad.

I judged him by his character & his values, not his race. And I made a good choice.

Many white guys from broken homes & chaotic childhoods have kids out of wedlock or become absent fathers, just like black guys with a similar upbringing. Now that opiate addiction is affecting so many white families (along with meth out west & in rural areas), we will see even more broken homes & lack of male role models in the white community.

A guy's family of origin, upbringing, values & character are much more important than race when it comes to predicting the kind of father & husband that they'll be.

January 8, 2016

Either way, this urban legend is dead wrong.

There are plenty of Asian guys who will tear you in half and plenty of little black guys.

I'm very well blessed in the size department, so I don't have a dog in this fight, but this stereotype is dead wrong.

I know from data. Adult industry sources.

There is no meaningful racial correlation between race and penis size... any more than race and vagina size.

Um ....yes there is. You've studied data, I've studied penises. (See below.)

What makes it objective though? How many male penises have you held a ruler next to while fully erect?

Not to jump on you but practically everything which people say about penis lengths has been debunked by experimental method. This includes racial differences which most notably were investigated by the British Journal of Urology and King's College in the UK.

The "Penis size map" that is very common is based on highly discredited research conducted by J. Philippe Rushton in the 80s, whose cause celebre was to argue that responsible Asian cultures evolved small penises because the cultures emphasized small families and intelligence, while unprincipled and savage African cultures evolved larger penises in order to emphasize rapid reproduction and low intelligence. Researchers have been unable to find a meaningful difference in penis sizes across races.

Here's a good summary of a few highly regarded studies performed into the matter by Urology journals.
http://i.imgur.com/bsNrs1u.png

If you want something more contemporary there's this study where the average was confirmed to be 5.57 in with a standard deviation of 1.04 in. Which again, if you are statistically literate suggests that people who are 7" or longer are in fact quite uncommon.
Erect Penile Length and Circumference Dimensions of 1,661 Sexually Active Men in the United States
Debby Herbenick PhD, MPH1,*, Michael Reece PhD, MPH1, Vanessa Schick PhD1 andStephanie A. Sanders PhD2,3
Article first published online: 10 JUL 2013 The Journal of Sexual Medicine
Volume 11, Issue 1, pages 93–101, January 2014

Likewise, Lifestyles (yes the condom brand) did a highly publicized study (on kids on spring break in Cancun!) that produced similar data, albeit with only 400 participants being measured - 50% of men being around 5.5"-6" and roughly 7% being longer than 7".

I'm a guy. I play the game. I've exaggerated my dick size plenty because I know everyone else does. Every time I listen to a girl talking about 8" dicks all I can do is shake my head.

My advice to you is if a guy tells you he is ___ inches long, adjust it in your head appropriately.

I'm familiar w/the studies and I don't doubt their scientific validity. But there's often a difference between science and practical reality, and what I'm talking about is the latter. If you want to argue that you'll find men w/a 7/8" size advantage in the Congo if you sample 100,000 test subjects I'll agree w/you, but if you want to determine likelihood of penis size by race for practical purposes among ppl you're likely to have a sexual encounter with, I'll respectfully go w/my own experiences. Much like I would disregard a study that said it's safe to walk in traffic while acknowledging that maybe it's true by some technical measure.

So bscly real world vs. the lab. Black guys tend to have larger penises.

Anyway, it seems to me like the people who are most racist or are the most insistent on perpetuating racial differences are the ones who are most hung up on black guys having big dicks. After all to a white man who disapproves of black people, painting them as these hung wild sex beasts is a way to dehumanize them, and is subconsciously satisfying. When in fact, black guys are just guys who are black. And they are neither appreciably larger nor any stupider than the rest of us. Ditto Asian folks being neither significantly smaller nor any smarter. Stereotypes are just difficult to break down.

This is ....bizarre. Sounds like you're seeing ghosts and muddying the waters of the discussion of what 'real' (i.e. meaningful and harmful) racism is vs. the reactionary, oversensitive and frankly silly fear-mongering efforts some ppl like to push. I could just as soon say you're racist for having this discussion at all.

January 8, 2016

I'm familiar w/the studies and I don't doubt their scientific validity. But there's often a difference between science and practical reality, and what I'm talking about is the latter. If you want to argue that you'll find men w/a 7/8" size advantage in the Congo if you sample 100,000 test subjects I'll agree w/you, but if you want to determine likelihood of penis size by race for practical purposes among ppl you're likely to have a sexual encounter with, I'll respectfully go w/my own experiences. Much like I would disregard a study that said it's safe to walk in traffic while acknowledging that maybe it's true by some technical measure.

So bscly real world vs. the lab. Black guys tend to have larger penises.

I am very confused by your post.

Are you suggesting that men who have smaller penises are less sexually active, but disproportionately less so among populations of African heritage?

I never said that there is zero existing correlation between penis size and race. One has not been established but that does not mean it cannot exist. It just means that to demonstrate a correlation involves replacing the past methodologies with more rigorous, statistically significant, and complete ones. Maybe you have done this with a ruler, maybe you haven't. I'm not going to make any assumptions. But we work with the most correct information we have.

As for the bit about 'average', averages are meaningless from a practical standpoint. And it is entirely possible that one encounters nothing but hung gentlemen. Sexual encounters are a Monte Carlo problem and there's nothing saying you can't be the 1 in 500 case. Its just improbable, and if everyone is saying that they got struck by lightning then skepticism naturally follows.

This is ....bizarre. Sounds like you're seeing ghosts and muddying the waters of the discussion of what 'real' (i.e. meaningful and harmful) racism is vs. the reactionary, oversensitive and frankly silly fear-mongering efforts some ppl like to push. I could just as soon say you're racist for having this discussion at all.

Not really. Stereotypes of all kinds are harmful, and attempts to paint Asians as intrinsically bright or African-Americans as intrinsically oversexed both have widely documented negative consequences. For example, Rushton's hypothesis was that white people are the beneficiaries of a "Goldilocks effect" - between the qualities of an Asian man and a black African man.

January 9, 2016

I am very confused by your post.

Are you suggesting that men who have smaller penises are less sexually active, but disproportionately less so among populations of African heritage?

No, I said iguanas are typically more active in the winter. What on earth are you talking about?

Pointless debate - we clearly speak different languages so let's just not do it.

Not really. Stereotypes of all kinds are harmful, and attempts to paint Asians as intrinsically bright or African-Americans as intrinsically oversexed both have widely documented negative consequences. For example, Rushton's hypothesis was that white people are the beneficiaries of a "Goldilocks effect" - between the qualities of an Asian man and a black African man.

Actually yes really, and thru your maneuvers (and I don't think even you understand you're doing it) here I am presented w/potentially needing to defend myself against nonsensical accusations, or at least implied ones. Not playing ball, sorry.

January 11, 2016

Just wanted to share a brief OLD moment I had recently. And don't want to start a new thread.

So a few months ago (Oct. maybe) a profile showed up and I clicked on it. It was a young white woman. At the top of her profile is "I only date white guys". Strangely, this was the first time I'd seen that on a profile i'd visited that wasn't from a minority. I didn't mind, at least she wasn't wasting me or any minorities time waiting for a reply.

So fast forward, to the end of the year/new years, I had deactivated my profile since around that time and upon re-activating it, I hit on her profile because I forgot who she was and she had a new pic I'd never seen.

Her profile had changed to a vent against how guys weren't bothering to read and how they didn't know how to treat a woman on dates.

I laughed that she was willing to call out the minorities to stay away but when she goes on rant about the behavior of guys she was dating, she fails to even mention that they are white. It's just men in general.

So whatever reason she has for only dating white guys, it might simply be she's bad at picking out good character in general.

January 12, 2016

Honesty hour here on LS. My and I recently split and she's started seeing a hispanic guy. Our city is pretty much 50/50 white/hispanic, and I've always thought of myself as one of the few liberal minded people in a place with lots of racial tension (yeah that's right, man of the year candidate right here).

But when I found out she left me for him, it surprised me how much I was bothered by his ethnicity speciically. This guy seems really cool and nice and I have nothing against him (other than flirting with my girlfriend before we broke up, dick). The best explanation that I could come up with was that I feel she likes this other guy better BECAUSE he his hispanic, which is something I could not provide her with. The white guy she dated before me had rock hard six pack abs, and that bothered me the same way.

I think guys who feel a bit uneasy about girls who have dated other races are simply insecure. A man wants to be his woman's number one preference, and skin color, like height, physique are easily apparent at first glance. He isn't going to sit down with her previous partners and find out their salaries or emotional availability, he's going to judge them based on how they look and if they are more attractive or not. You can't change your race to be more preferable to your woman, and I think that can make a lot of guys insecure.

The previous girl I dated was Mexican and I've been seeing a black girl recently (seriously guys, vote for me), so I wouldn't call myself a racist. But I would agree with the notion that being in a relationship with someone who has been with a different race can bring on bouts of insecurity, though I would never not date someone based on their past partners.

I will say that this talk of white girls not being pure anymore is some Nazi ****. Get away from those people.

About a year after my divorce my ex-husband was jealous and would incite stupid little fights about parenting things until he met my last BF (accidentally). My XH is a very good looking guy. The XBF wasn't good looking at all. Then the XH teased me about my standards and became really nice. I know this was because in my XH's mind I couldn't 'do better than him'.

I think this is the root of it. It's just insecurity and the idea of a guy being the best a woman can get. I also think beyond racism, it could be a reference to porn and the BBC and concerns about measuring up.

January 14, 2016

I can't believe there is even a debate.

If a person won't date a woman because she has dated a black guy, that is racism. It says that there's sonethjng about a black penis that changes and devalues a woman for the rest of her life. That's nothing BUT racism.

Yeah, it might be a preference: a preference a woman us as racist as you.

Sad our society is still there, though I know it is because I've heard this before.

January 14, 2016

A lot of white males look at any white woman who dated black men as tainted.

And no it's not just older white men

January 14, 2016

I've dated inter racially but I only discuss that with men who also have.

January 15, 2016

A lot of white males look at any white woman who dated black men as tainted.

And no it's not just older white men

Why tainted?

January 16, 2016

Why tainted?

Ignorance

Fear of sexually inferiority against black guys

Feeling of superiority over black people

The reasons are endless really.

January 17, 2016

A lot of white males look at any white woman who dated black men as tainted.

And no it's not just older white men

"Tainted" lol.

Why? Because she probably made some sweet love with a chocolate man, hm?

January 18, 2016

If he was an educated, upstanding black man I'd have absolutely no problem with it.

If he was the "hood" black man or someone trying to be "that guy" living "that life", absolutely not and most of that has to do with a difference in value systems and self-respect (or lackthereof). There's a certain lifestyle that is being embraced by that particular group and I flat out don't agree with it at all. Hell I know women who'll ditch having any standards whatsoever and mess with any black guy in this group just because he's black.

Btw, that "lifestyle" is the only thing being glamorized by the media these days, which in turn feeds the beast with a lot of people. Then you have all that cuckhold nonsense in pornography, that's not helping the situation either.

It's definitely an interesting topic, but to immediately assume it's strictly because of penis envy - well that's something that's "small" minded. I'm not saying those people don't exist, but every white guy? C'mon bruh.

Edited January 18, 2016 by a LoveShack.org Moderator
language ~6

January 18, 2016

If he was an educated, upstanding black man I'd have absolutely no problem with it.

If he was the "hood" black man or someone trying to be "that guy" living "that life", absolutely not and most of that has to do with a difference in value systems and self-respect (or lackthereof). There's a certain lifestyle that is being embraced by that particular group and I flat out don't agree with it at all. Hell I know women who'll ditch having any standards whatsoever and mess with any black guy in this group just because he's black.

Btw, that "lifestyle" is the only thing being glamorized by the media these days, which in turn feeds the beast with a lot of people. Then you have all that cuckhold nonsense in pornography, that's not helping the situation either.

It's definitely an interesting topic, but to immediately assume it's strictly because of penis envy - well that's something that's "small" minded. I'm not saying those people don't exist, but every white guy? C'mon bruh.

How many highly-educated white women are hanging out in hoods and ghettos? Most people date people in their social circle or through work so even having to ask someone still points to insecurity and small-minded envy.

Why not all minorities!lol

Edited January 18, 2016 by a LoveShack.org Moderator
edited quote for language ~6

January 18, 2016

How many highly-educated white women are hanging out in hoods and ghettos? Most people date people in their social circle or through work so even having to ask someone still points to insecurity and small-minded envy.

Why not all minorities!lol

Exactly.

If this were really about some kind of value system then race wouldn't even be a question. People would be just as repulsed by a woman dating a white guy from a trailer park that lived the "lifestyle" of a meth dealer, wanna be rapper or any other degenerate. But for some the idea seems to be a forgone conclusion that Black guy = bad values and isn't that really what being a racist is all about?

The idea that one particular race is the litmus test for a value system is really just a back door way to justify other effed up attitudes about race.

January 18, 2016

Exactly.

If this were really about some kind of value system then race wouldn't even be a question. People would be just as repulsed by a woman dating a white guy from a trailer park that lived the "lifestyle" of a meth dealer, wanna be rapper or any other degenerate. But for some the idea seems to be a forgone conclusion that Black guy = bad values and isn't that really what being a racist is all about?

The idea that one particular race is the litmus test for a value system is really just a back door way to justify other effed up attitudes about race.

Bingo. It's a vehicle for rationalizing racism. Black men are not inherently more prone to being 'thugs' than white people. Or Asians for that matter. I've seen so many people who don't sag their pants cheat to get ahead in life. They're small-time thugs as far as I'm concerned, even if no one will brand them as such.

January 18, 2016

How many highly-educated white women are hanging out in hoods and ghettos? Most people date people in their social circle or through work so even having to ask someone still points to insecurity and small-minded envy.

Why not all minorities!lol

No offense, but you're speaking in generalities.

I happen to live in a "resort" town that's really been gaining steam when it comes to destination spots within the U.S. That "lifestyle" I'm referring to isn't just in the actual "hoods" of America. I see it all the time when I'm in the bar/club scene out here.

It's a real melting pot of that group, the EDM scene, hipsters, and young money. So people aren't just "stuck within the confines of their social circle".

January 18, 2016

Exactly.

If this were really about some kind of value system then race wouldn't even be a question. People would be just as repulsed by a woman dating a white guy from a trailer park that lived the "lifestyle" of a meth dealer, wanna be rapper or any other degenerate. But for some the idea seems to be a forgone conclusion that Black guy = bad values and isn't that really what being a racist is all about?

The idea that one particular race is the litmus test for a value system is really just a back door way to justify other effed up attitudes about race.

You're totally bastardizing what I said.

When it comes to the lifestyle I'm referring to, if I know a girl I'm interested was at one point a part of that - I'm going to question her character and value system. I'm not doing that for EVERY black guy a white woman dates.

Edited January 18, 2016 by TheQuirkyGuy

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