Author oregon0011 Posted December 29, 2015 Author Posted December 29, 2015 I just wanna know who's the girl OP was in interested in, whose profile he eventually found in a sugar daddy website, and now he is shocked and digusted. And he won't stop talking about it. No actually this was a girl from regular online dating that had "fwbs" from her past that she thought were no big deal. And yeah, I paid for dates anyway.
GingerVixen Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 No actually this was a girl from regular online dating that had "fwbs" from her past that she thought were no big deal. And yeah, I paid for dates anyway. I KNEW it!!! You're obsessed with her. What happened anyway??
Rejected Rosebud Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 I have visited 25 or more escorts. Some of them have become good friends spanning years..So I can speak from experience and not just speculation. Yes it is becoming a lot more common. The internet is helping facilitate this. The internet is not evil in itself. TCP/IP just allows people with computers to communicate ideas to each other over long distances instantly. Please do not blame technology. I agree with all this and the rest of your post that I didn't quote as well!! But that doesn't support the OP's idea that "online dating is turning girls into escorts."
JGirl83 Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 So it actually, in a way, works out better for both. It is probably good for your d*** but not your self esteem. I imagine one must be very good at compartmentalising their feeling to be able to forget the fact that the girl is only with them for money. I doubt you can ask for exclusivity ( guys get territorial so how does such arrangement work?) or to become a part of their lives etc so what is the point in the long term? There is no progression.
Author oregon0011 Posted December 29, 2015 Author Posted December 29, 2015 It is probably good for your d*** but not your self esteem. I imagine one must be very good at compartmentalising their feeling to be able to forget the fact that the girl is only with them for money. I doubt you can ask for exclusivity ( guys get territorial so how does such arrangement work?) or to become a part of their lives etc so what is the point in the long term? There is no progression. I agree. It is all kind of sad.
venusishername Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 I'm jumping in only replying to the main question in the title. I'm no escort, but online dating sure did make me feel like I was just a bunch of random men's 'company' for the evening. There were times I FELT like an escort. What I mean is, there were SO many men that I met online only looking to hook up, I went on what seemed like hundreds of first dates, sitting there looking pretty and eating sushi or drinking cocktails. I could have been anyone. When I did online dating, (never again, it's not for me)... I felt like I was part of a revolving door of women that these men went out with, very disposable. Most, if not all, of my online dates never resulted in sex, (there were a few over the years)... but even though I never slept with most of these guys, I felt like many of them just wanted the company of a woman; they were lonely and online dating was the easiest way to have that company. Online dating is so artificial and forced to me. I know it works for some people, but I never liked it for these reasons. I think its more likely that people looking to take advantage of or use others would use online dating apps because it casts a really wide net. It's kind of predatory (another reason I'm not a fan). 1
truth_seeker Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 Many guys make 8 to 10 grand a month In America???
truth_seeker Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 Online dating is so artificial and forced to me. I know it works for some people, but I never liked it for these reasons. I'm with you and I'm a guy. 1
LookAtThisPOst Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 With the amount of men coming here talk about women blowing them off and "going cold" or flaking or whatever, it does kind of makes sense to me that some men have resorted to paying for companionship or some kind of "mock" relationship with a woman as of late. Though, I have heard it happening on both sides, as one woman, in her mid-50s who was for years looking for a meaningful relationship had no success in finding someone and was questioning whether or not...to fill that void...to have a no-strings FWB relationship with a male neighbor of hers. Though there's no payment here, there's some kind of physical need fullfilment being exchanged. It's gotten to the point where a lot of singles are so weary of dating that they are considering for the first time in their lives to have some kind of no-strings sex or just going out to pay for companionship/sex. Like a "If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em." thus compromising their own moral compass. 1
Author oregon0011 Posted December 29, 2015 Author Posted December 29, 2015 As an example, just 20 years ago, you would date and often times "like" who you meet and form a relationship. Options were more limited. A girl from work, school, friend, college etc. Now with dating sites options are endless. Sex occurs with little meaning on first and second dates. Sort of how women "compete to keep you" or they just have sex for fun. So it is logical that as sex gets more meaningless, for many the next step is just to get money for it. To deny the above is merely because one is looking at it from some emotional standpoint like "no way girls wouldn't do that anymore now because I don't want girls to look bad"
LookAtThisPOst Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 As an example, just 20 years ago, you would date and often times "like" who you meet and form a relationship. Options were more limited. A girl from work, school, friend, college etc. Right, esp. college which 20 years ago was a haven for dating opportunities. People dated their study buddy, at student activities on campus, clubs, the fun was there and I had a great time joining these groups and having fun with people. As some of these students were getting closer to graduation, those who coupled up wound up getting engaged and even scheduled their weddings a few months after they got their college degrees. It was pretty nice how people got together organically through college campuses and events. Women were easy to approach in the computer lab or common's areas while they were studying. It was great. When the internet started to get into its infancy, I noticed that college-aged women were going online to meet men and forgoing their campus male counter parts. When a guy would ask a woman out she said, "I'm seeing someone". WHen asked "How did you 2 meet?" They'd say, "I met him online and he lives 3 hours away." So here she has this guy that likes her, in her class, and she's trying to maintain a long distance cyber relationship.
The Way I Am Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 So here she has this guy that likes her, in her class, and she's trying to maintain a long distance cyber relationship. So do you see that as a problem? If so, why?
Revolver Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 It's crazy how many girls I knew in HS and college who were selling on the side. The funny thing is most were not coming from broken homes like often portrayed. My brother was talking to this girl and he googled her and found her on backpage. So one day he texted her by her name on that site, and less than a minute later she responded "who told you that?":confused: 2
Imajerk17 Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 (edited) No I don't think OLD is turning women to escorts. However, I do think good behavior (from and towards EITHER gender) keeps getting defined down. At one point, the only acceptable way to cancel a date--even a first date--used to be a phone call. Nowadays blowing off contact the couple days before seems to be becoming an acceptable way to cancel an early date. Same with ghosting and the like. It's on the recipient to get that the other person isn't interested. I see this from the threads on here and even some of my own experiences. THAT I think is a shame. Edited December 29, 2015 by Imajerk17 1
SmartDude Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 This whole topic is very age specific. Most escorts are in their early to mid 20's. They do it for a very short period in their lives. Most drop out of the lifestyle around 25 years of age. Some make it into their late twenties. Very few are doing this in their 30's and beyond as professionals.
RedRobin Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 There are a few times I have responded to emails from much older men by telling them I'd be happy to attend their XYZ function with them, as long as they bought the dress and accessories, and sex wasn't involved. they never accepted, but that's what they get for ignoring my posted age limits. 1
SincereOnlineGuy Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 It's vastly different.. 20 years ago for a girl to be an escort she would have to have a driver, drive to some strangers house without seeing him, and the guy would have to look in the yellow pages to ask a complete stranger, who he has not seen to come over.. Now a girl just has to put a dollar sign on her dating profile.. I really do not believe the amount of women trading sex or company for money is the same as it was 20 years ago.. No way.. But that is in no way a function of online dating. There is surely far, far more abuse rampant in American families in 2015 than was the case in 1980 (and even 1995), and that has far more to do with why there may be more escorts in 2015 than there seemed to be in 1980 than does online dating. The real economy (*that which most closely impacts the middle and lower class - not measured by merely charting the NASDAQ) is another reason, and that has nothing to do with online dating either. As one noted online talkshow host used to say: "Thank God young women in the abuse cycle can become hookers and strippers"... (because the only effect likely for male abuse victims is to continue the cycle for generations to follow).
William Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 Topic check: I loathe quoting nearly the entirety of the topic as a reminder but here goes: Now, there are sites devoted to arrangements, sugar daddies etc, and there are hundreds of thousands of good looking girls on THESE sites..Basically they get paid to go on a date, and they can pick and choose who they go out with.. These sites have more successful guys and better looking girls. Most of these girls are in college, college educated, or have careers and do this for extra cash. Now we can say "prostitution has been around forever".. And I agree.. But 20 years ago a girl would have to stand on the corner, or go through some process to be hired by an escort agency, and that would be fairly rare.. NOW, girls just upload a photo and watch the offers come in..Even on traditional sites, Craigslist, or apps like Tinder, girls quickly ask "P2P"..Or have on their profile that they like "generous men". I wonder how many of these girls, once they settle down, will come clean about their past. Or how many of them will actually ever have a solid work ethic..Or how many will still bond after sex with a husband? It's all pretty sad. So it seems we have all this so called "equality", but in a way more and more women are just using the internet, somewhat discretely and easily, to trade sex for extra money.. ------------ Since this apparently is not about one person's dating experience, rather a general discussion, I'll move this to GRD and remind members to address the topic, to not engage in forays into the politics of prostitution and definitely to treat all members with civility and respect. Thanks!
MissBee Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 (edited) Online dating isn't turning girls into anything, if they want to become an escort or a sb it is probably easier now, but it's not because of online dating. It's also easier for a guy to hire a pro rather than go pick one up from the street corner. Any girl looking for a relationship whether she's amazingly hot or not isn't going to change her mind and become a prostitute just because of the dynamics of dating sites. Precisely. It's like when people blame Facebook and other social media sites for cheating or dysfunctional relationships, when in reality, people choose how they want to use social media and the internet. Certain people will use it for certain things and others won't, it's more about your existing personality rather than the internet warping your mind and values. The internet makes certain things easier but it doesn't seduce and force anyone into escorting if it isn't something they've decided is an avenue for them for whatever reason. Some women (and men) realize that they can capitalize on their looks and other people's desires to make a living, other good looking people use dating sites and the internet everyday and don't come to that same conclusion. The vast majority of good looking women are not escorting. I think sometimes people lose all perspective and blow up social media or even recycled profiles or "catfish profiles" (fake profiles, there are LOTS of them on dating and social media sites) as something that every person or most people are doing when it's not. Escorting profiles may be the most popular or noticeable because 1.they have to be if the point is to attract clients and 2.they will likely be more provocative for number 1. However, other good looking people may have profiles that are less conspicuous, provocative and popular so aren't super noticeable. All that to say, remember to keep things in perspective. Don't be too sad though OP, many women have escorted, been prostitutes, work in the porn industry and still have relationships. Sure, many people who end up in sex work usually so not by choice or have experienced trauma, but others choose it and many still are able to find relationships after. Especially women who have sugar daddies, many do not have sex and see it strictly as business and can separate that from finding a mutual relationship. Not all men are okay with this but obviously some are. Edited December 31, 2015 by MissBee 1
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