LookAtThisPOst Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Wow, this thread grew rapidly in a day. Anyhow, I have heard of this kind of thing happening. You know how in college, some young college women would work at the local strip club to pay for college? Now college women are prostituting themselves for local male students...but more so in a fashion of men buying nice things for them...bartering if you will. Buy their food for them, etc. I had a male friend where he told me his wife's sister was a mistress to a man...and he paid for everything, bought her a car and apartment to live in. She had no interest in being an actual boyfriend to anyone, pretty sad. I bet she was a disappointment to the family. There are some women that regular professionals during the year, but they'd take some time off during the year to live in Nevada to be prostitutes at the local brothels. I saw this documentary on TV where a woman that was a professional accountant. It wasn't like they were waitresses or Wal-Mart workers that do this, but actually professional women that take a few months out of the year to make money being prostitutes in Nevada. Was totally landblasted when I found this out. Link to post Share on other sites
lino Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Truly disgusting if this is true. I don't use online dating but can picture something like this happening in my head. Having said that, women have been demanding men pay for their time and company for long before online dating. Link to post Share on other sites
LookAtThisPOst Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Oh, I meant to add there's actually a woman I know locally, she's an ex-wife to a male friend of mine. She was on Plenty of Fish for a while. When I got to talking to her, she was telling me how some of her old high school male friends from another state would contact her online and they would use their frequent flyer miles to fly them up to visit them. They'd even pay for her hotel room and they'd "hang out" with her. Some were even MARRIED. She got pi**y with me when I asked, "Is their wife okay with that?" And she said, "It's not like that!!" She had a hot body, I admit it, but did need some dental work (messed up teeth) I guess she found her po-dunk town didn't have much to offer. She isn't a drinker, so doesn't hang out with her friends much since they drink. But that was an interesting piece of info to know. Guess she's so bored with her town, she's flying out to other cities as an "escort"...but I'm guessing there's some shame in it for her. Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I don't think OLD is turning women into escorts, I think OLD gives the escorts a place to show their wares looking for clients. When I was doing OLD years ago running into escorts and ladies of the evening was very normal...I think many guys don't realize that quite a few of the profiles out there are just that and they hit on them thinking they will get somewhere but they won't unless they are looking for an escort and contact them for that... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ZA Dater Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I have come across this fairly often on dating sites and other sites. It definitely does happen and even on Tinder it happens but then again as tinder is mostly a hook up app to begin with that particular point might be moot. Quite often the guys taking advantage of this are the ones who really battle with dating. Link to post Share on other sites
sandylee1 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I think I know what the OP is saying...... Kind of. There are some girls who may not have thought of being SBs, without the creation of such websites. Those who are in college and need financial support... These girls would not have necessarily sought a SD without the Internet. I don't classify them as prostitutes... they want a man who is very generous with his cash basically. These SDs want a young hot looking woman.. and for that they'll have to pay. If they went for a woman their own age.. they wouldn't have to splash the cash so much.. but they need ego boosting and sometimes fool themselves that the escorts really like them. What they like is the money....plain and simple. Those men would not get a look in if they were broke... yet they delude themselves. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author oregon0011 Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 I think I know what the OP is saying...... Kind of. There are some girls who may not have thought of being SBs, without the creation of such websites. Those who are in college and need financial support... These girls would not have necessarily sought a SD without the Internet. I don't classify them as prostitutes... they want a man who is very generous with his cash basically. These SDs want a young hot looking woman.. and for that they'll have to pay. If they went for a woman their own age.. they wouldn't have to splash the cash so much.. but they need ego boosting and sometimes fool themselves that the escorts really like them. What they like is the money....plain and simple. Those men would not get a look in if they were broke... yet they delude themselves. Sort of. I am saying with the Internet, clearly lots of guys just want sex with random women. So, a young attractive girl, with many offers, can simply charge. And they do. It does not have to be on a specific sugar baby website. They can post an ad on Craigslist for example. This takes 2 minutes. They get 100 replies. Once talking to an attractive guy out of those 100, they simply say they need help with a bill or 2. That's how easy it is. I had 2 younger guys who worked for me with attractive girlfriends. Their gf's were doing this from time to time behind their back. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
truth_seeker Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Lots of young women are turning to escorting. Why? Easy money. Anytime you see some woman who is a "model" or belongs to a "modeling agency", chances are she's an escort and the agency is a front for escorting. What's even more crazier, these women have boyfriend's and sleep with rich business men who are old enough to be their father's... Link to post Share on other sites
truth_seeker Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Having said that, women have been demanding men pay for their time and company for long before online dating. Fair to say that dating is indirectly prostitution? Link to post Share on other sites
sandylee1 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Sort of. I am saying with the Internet, clearly lots of guys just want sex with random women. So, a young attractive girl, with many offers, can simply charge. And they do. It does not have to be on a specific sugar baby website. They can post an ad on Craigslist for example. This takes 2 minutes. They get 100 replies. Once talking to an attractive guy out of those 100, they simply say they need help with a bill or 2. That's how easy it is. I had 2 younger guys who worked for me with attractive girlfriends. Their gf's were doing this from time to time behind their back. You know a person I know sent their children to uni in another country. They would give the girl more financial support....because they feared that if she was strapped for cash ... she would turn to men to support her. They knew the son would be okay. Sometimes desperation makes you do what you don't want to. Way back in my youth.....I had a really good looking friend (equivalent to a dumb blonde)but hot to trot who only went out with rich men. It was before the Internet was so common ... those who are that way inclined always find a way regardless. Money and sex go hand in hand. I remember when I was in my twenties..Some rich men approaching me and a friend on a night out. They were too old and if they didn't have money they never would have dared approach us... neither of us were interested..but they moved on to other girls who stayed with them. I do think the Internet makes things easier if you have an inclination. It's like online gambling .. Some people would never enter a bookmakers.. but they get sucked into online gaming. The Internet is both good and bad. Link to post Share on other sites
hasaquestion Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Fair to say that dating is indirectly prostitution? A younger and less aware of other people version of me actually talked about this on a date once. The economics of dating. Needless to say we didn't go on another one. Link to post Share on other sites
Author oregon0011 Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 You know a person I know sent their children to uni in another country. They would give the girl more financial support....because they feared that if she was strapped for cash ... she would turn to men to support her. They knew the son would be okay. Sometimes desperation makes you do what you don't want to. Way back in my youth.....I had a really good looking friend (equivalent to a dumb blonde)but hot to trot who only went out with rich men. It was before the Internet was so common ... those who are that way inclined always find a way regardless. Money and sex go hand in hand. I remember when I was in my twenties..Some rich men approaching me and a friend on a night out. They were too old and if they didn't have money they never would have dared approach us... neither of us were interested..but they moved on to other girls who stayed with them. I do think the Internet makes things easier if you have an inclination. It's like online gambling .. Some people would never enter a bookmakers.. but they get sucked into online gaming. The Internet is both good and bad. Yes. And I am not even talking about the 1 in a million perfect 10 with natural beauty and perfect body. I mean basically average fit younger girls who have older men , or even just slightly older men, that have no problem paying them. And they have no problem accepting. So I think when guys their age approach these girls, who you think would be an average girl to date, these girls have a totally different mindset that is often times totally disconnected from a regular relationship where both share, sex is based on love etc. Link to post Share on other sites
truth_seeker Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 A younger and less aware of other people version of me actually talked about this on a date once. The economics of dating. Needless to say we didn't go on another one. Average person goes on what, three dates and expects sex on the third one? So you figure the guys spends money (dinner, drinks, tickets to a show, etc...) for three dates so he can get laid. With prostitution you forego the dates and give the money straight up for the sex. Dating isn't that far from prostitution when you think about it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author oregon0011 Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 (edited) And I have known girls that do this and this was the process. First they start dating on the Internet. Internet is a smorgasbord for "cool guys" so many of these girls were toyed with, used for sex, became bitter etc. So they figured "why am I having sex for free? I can date an equally good looking guy who will pay me to date him. I am strapped for money, I need an iPhone, gym membership, nice clothes, etc" So it begins. At that point they view sex, love and relationships differently. And really it starts even earlier. Girls in high school are setting, taking nudes, etc. this didn't exist when I was in high school. Guys see every type of porn imaginable. Edited December 29, 2015 by oregon0011 1 Link to post Share on other sites
truth_seeker Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 And I have known girls that do this and this was the process. First they start dating on the Internet. Internet is a smorgasbord for "cool guys" so many of these girls were toyed with, used for sex, became bitter etc. So they figured "why am I having sex for free? I can date an equally good looking guy who will pay me to date him. I am strapped for money, I need an iPhone, gym membership, nice clothes, etc" So it begins. At that point they view sex, love and relationships differently. There was a documentary about this on ESPN with athletes. One athlete disclosed how he had women in different cities. It was their job to be available when he came to town. He would pay their rent, food, just about everything. It was like these women were employees on his payroll. Link to post Share on other sites
The Way I Am Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 (edited) oregon, your total lack of substantiation for your claim has totally convinced me. But now I'm worried about all these sugar daddy sites. There are hundreds of thousands of available, financially capable men on THESE sites. Basically, they get to just pay to go on a date, and they can pick any they want to go out with as long as they can pay. These sites have more successful guys and better looking girls. Most of these guys are in college, college educated, or have careers that give them the extra cash to spend on these women. Now we can say "prostitution has been around forever".. And I agree.. But 20 years ago, a guy would have to drive to the shady part of town, or go through the process of calling up an escort agency, and that would be fairly rare.. NOW, guys just log onto a site and send out all their offers. Even on traditional sites, Craigslist, or apps like Tinder, guys quickly respond to ads asking "P2P"..Or have on their profile that they're "generous men". I wonder how many of these men, once they settle down, will come clean about their past. Or how many of them will actually ever have a solid respect for relationships. Or how many will still bond after sex with a wife? It's all pretty sad. So it seems we have all the so called "equality", but in a way more and more men are just using the internet, somewhat discretely and easily, to exploit women and trade money for sex. Edited December 29, 2015 by The Way I Am 3 Link to post Share on other sites
oldshirt Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 OLD isn't turning sweet church girls into prostitutes. However any time something becomes easier and provides more access to the masses, more "normal" people are going to give it a try. In other words, the harder people have to work for something, the fewer are going to do it. In days of yore, prostitutes/escorts/sugar babies etc etc that were out operating in the community were the hardcores. They were the people that were either desperate and had to do it or people that had made up their mind that they were going to do and they set a goal and set out to accomplish it. Today, anyone can get a wild hair one day and find a website that supports it and provides the how-to instruction and by the afternoon someone can give it a whirl. So what that means is there are a lot more tire-kickers, wannabees and curiosity seekers out there just dipping their toe into it than there have been in days gone by. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
hasaquestion Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Average person goes on what, three dates and expects sex on the third one? So you figure the guys spends money (dinner, drinks, tickets to a show, etc...) for three dates so he can get laid. With prostitution you forego the dates and give the money straight up for the sex. Dating isn't that far from prostitution when you think about it. Basically I had seen an article that said the city I live in (Boston) has the most expensive escorts in the US. So the thought exercise on my mind at the time was whether or not you can derive the price escorts charge, from the cost of other goods and services. IIRC the average cost of an escort in Boston was $300. The average cost of a drink is $10, give or take. So the original hypothesis was that if drinks are 50% cheaper, would escorts still charge $300? Or does the price of certain (albeit gross) sex reflect the price of uncertain but adventurous sex? The girl I was on a date with in college while thinking out loud about it ended up being an acquaintance. We've joked about my helpless nerdhood in hindsight. Link to post Share on other sites
loveweary11 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 So it seems we have all the so called "equality", but in a way more and more men are just using the internet, somewhat discretely and easily, to exploit women and trade money for sex. Um... women outnumber men 10:1 on seeking arrangement. I hardly think they are being exploited. They are hoping a guy will choose them. Oregon is right here. Regular girls who would have never had access to sex for money are signing up in droves for these sites since having a little sex is a lot better than working retail or fast food while in college and they know it. I'm pretty sure everything OPis saying is correct. It's also a gateway to more advanced, higher earning full time prostitution. Your attempt to pretend men are the reason girl do this is not really holding water when there are 10 girls for every guy on these sites. The numbers alone prove more girls want to do it than guys. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
losangelena Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 oregon, your total lack of substantiation for your claim has totally convinced me. But now I'm worried about all these sugar daddy sites. There are hundreds of thousands of available, financially capable men on THESE sites. Basically, they get to just pay to go on a date, and they can pick any they want to go out with as long as they can pay. These sites have more successful guys and better looking girls. Most of these guys are in college, college educated, or have careers that give them the extra cash to spend on these women. Now we can say "prostitution has been around forever".. And I agree.. But 20 years ago, a guy would have to drive to the shady part of town, or go through the process of calling up an escort agency, and that would be fairly rare.. NOW, guys just log onto a site and send out all their offers. Even on traditional sites, Craigslist, or apps like Tinder, guys quickly respond to ads asking "P2P"..Or have on their profile that they're "generous men". I wonder how many of these men, once they settle down, will come clean about their past. Or how many of them will actually ever have a solid respect for relationships. Or how many will still bond after sex with a wife? It's all pretty sad. So it seems we have all the so called "equality", but in a way more and more men are just using the internet, somewhat discretely and easily, to exploit women and trade money for sex. Brilliant x 1,000. :lmao: 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author oregon0011 Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 There was a documentary about this on ESPN with athletes. One athlete disclosed how he had women in different cities. It was their job to be available when he came to town. He would pay their rent, food, just about everything. It was like these women were employees on his payroll. And it's not really high level millionaires. Many guys make 8 to 10 grand a month, and paying many sugar babies 1000 a month is far cheaper than paying a wife. The same amount is usually spent dating. And for many girls, 1000 a month extra is a car payment, insurance, phone and food. Link to post Share on other sites
losangelena Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Um... women outnumber men 10:1 on seeking arrangement. I hardly think they are being exploited. They are hoping a guy will choose them. Oregon is right here. Regular girls who would have never had access to sex for money are signing up in droves for these sites since having a little sex is a lot better than working retail or fast food while in college and they know it. I'm pretty sure everything OPis saying is correct. It's also a gateway to more advanced, higher earning full time prostitution. Your attempt to pretend men are the reason girl do this is not really holding water when there are 10 girls for every guy on these sites. The numbers alone prove more girls want to do it than guys. LOL. Go back and re-read the OP. TWIA's post will make a lot more sense. Link to post Share on other sites
GingerVixen Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I just wanna know who's the girl OP was in interested in, whose profile he eventually found in a sugar daddy website, and now he is shocked and digusted. And he won't stop talking about it. Link to post Share on other sites
JGirl83 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Average person goes on what, three dates and expects sex on the third one? So you figure the guys spends money (dinner, drinks, tickets to a show, etc...) for three dates so he can get laid. With prostitution you forego the dates and give the money straight up for the sex. Dating isn't that far from prostitution when you think about it. That is a weird comparison. In prostitution there is nothing after sex. In dating there is ideally more dating and more sex after the first time sex. Dating is not about women rewarding guys with sex because he spent a certain amount. It is very sad if guys see it that way. Dating is about getting to know to other person to see if you are compatible. Sex is part of that. Girls want to have sex too. I dont go into it thinking "he spent x amount. Here is my reward" I try to go halves or take turns buying drinks too, and lots of women do that too. Link to post Share on other sites
Author oregon0011 Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 Um... women outnumber men 10:1 on seeking arrangement. I hardly think they are being exploited. They are hoping a guy will choose them. Oregon is right here. Regular girls who would have never had access to sex for money are signing up in droves for these sites since having a little sex is a lot better than working retail or fast food while in college and they know it. I'm pretty sure everything OPis saying is correct. It's also a gateway to more advanced, higher earning full time prostitution. Your attempt to pretend men are the reason girl do this is not really holding water when there are 10 girls for every guy on these sites. The numbers alone prove more girls want to do it than guys. Exactly. My friends are on these sites. I made a profile. Instantly I am getting several emails a day. After talking to the girls most have a day job, regular life, but want an arrangement. One worked at target. One worked as a waitress. One worked at a accounting office. And they want a "boyfriend" of sorts that can have sex with them and date them and also contribute about 1000 a month or so. Now this is compared to "regular sites" where you rarely get an email, and you have to pay for dates anyway if the girl doesn't flake at the last second. Or she has an fwb or two and withholds sex from you because she likes you lol. So it actually, in a way, works out better for both. Link to post Share on other sites
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