Woggle Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 You can have all three It's hard to spot though, especially because many men assume that great women all have boyfriends, meanwhile these same women are wondering why men don't approach them. Ohhh silly world Men don't approach women anymore because the loudest voices men hear make it clear they don't want men to approach them. Have you ever heard of the anti-street harassment or anti-cat calling campaigns? You smile at the wrong woman these days and you might painted as a harasser. It's easy to understand why guys don't want to approach in this kind of atmosphere.
Gaeta Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 That's a very strong assumption. I could be anyone in the world and here you are stating you know exactly who I am because we are the 'same'. No darling, we are not, even if our relationship status may be. I am not assuming that much. I have been following your threads. That being said you come across as very snobbish and condescending you might want to look into this. 2
xxoo Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 Fact: there are good single men at all ages. Either you are not picking them, they are not picking you, or both. The question is--why not? 2
Author Hopeful30 Posted December 12, 2015 Author Posted December 12, 2015 Men don't approach women anymore because the loudest voices men hear make it clear they don't want men to approach them. Have you ever heard of the anti-street harassment or anti-cat calling campaigns? You smile at the wrong woman these days and you might painted as a harasser. It's easy to understand why guys don't want to approach in this kind of atmosphere. I hear you! And that sucks. People are ruining it for each other
Rejected Rosebud Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 Men don't approach women anymore because the loudest voices men hear make it clear they don't want men to approach them. Have you ever heard of the anti-street harassment or anti-cat calling campaigns? You are wrong, men approach women (me!) regularly. I'm not single though! Street harassment and catcalls - awful. Glad it's not considered acceptable anymore.
insert_name Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 We are out there. I have a job with a decent income, hate random sex for the sake of it and would love to have a serious relationship with a woman who adores me as much as I do her and maybe kids one day. Unfortunately I don't have a beard or tattoos or muscles, I am really not into drama and want a straight forward life so I am practically invisible to women in every day life. The women I meet from online dating are the opposite from where I am in life: I discover they are either seriously unstable (addicts or depressed) or hook up multi-date experts in their 30s whose ideas on intimacy and commitment are so off kilter that they object to holding my hand in public becase they aren't comfortable with it yet are fine having sex on the second date! So I have to ask the same question as you OP. Where are the quality women who actually want a relationship? I can't find them online, that is for sure. 2
Author Hopeful30 Posted December 12, 2015 Author Posted December 12, 2015 Fact: there are good single men at all ages. Either you are not picking them, they are not picking you, or both. The question is--why not? Same reason for anyone else I would suppose, either the circumstances/timing isn't right, or one doesn't like the other.
Author Hopeful30 Posted December 12, 2015 Author Posted December 12, 2015 We are out there. I have a job with a decent income, hate random sex for the sake of it and would love to have a serious relationship with a woman who adores me as much as I do her and maybe kids one day. Unfortunately I don't have a beard or tattoos or muscles, I am really not into drama and want a straight forward life so I am practically invisible to women in every day life. The women I meet from online dating are the opposite from where I am in life: I discover they are either seriously unstable (addicts or depressed) or hook up multi-date experts in their 30s whose ideas on intimacy and commitment are so off kilter that they object to holding my hand in public becase they aren't comfortable with it yet are fine having sex on the second date! So I have to ask the same question as you OP. Where are the quality women who actually want a relationship? I can't find them online, that is for sure. I'm sorry to hear that. Well at least you've ruled out the online option. I've never done online because it's very misleading. Anyone can edit a profile picture or their self-description, but it's when you can sense their energy, how they move, how they speak, how they look at people, that's when you get a truer sense of who a person is, and thus you can make a better decision for yourself and how you feel about this person. It's why I've always felt that online dating isn't always the best option. You need to be in the presence of a person to truly get a feel for them. Anyone can make themselves look good on paper, you know? I don't know where the quality women are, but mostly because I don't care. I'm looking for the guys
Redfisher Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 I'm sorry to hear that. Well at least you've ruled out the online option. I've never done online because it's very misleading. Anyone can edit a profile picture or their self-description, but it's when you can sense their energy, how they move, how they speak, how they look at people, that's when you get a truer sense of who a person is, and thus you can make a better decision for yourself and how you feel about this person. It's why I've always felt that online dating isn't always the best option. You need to be in the presence of a person to truly get a feel for them. Anyone can make themselves look good on paper, you know? I think you should try it...It can work if you know how to weed the bad ones out. Just another tool that may find the man of your dreams... Which is?
loveweary11 Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 all the taken guys were single once and probably not any better then the single guys today....you just think they are because they are in a relationship. Which is an accurate and weird truth about female psychology. As a guy, the more girls I have around, the more want me.
Author Hopeful30 Posted December 12, 2015 Author Posted December 12, 2015 I think you should try it...It can work if you know how to weed the bad ones out. Just another tool that may find the man of your dreams... Which is? I have a confession to make. I've tried online dating, twice. To be honest it made me more pessimistic about dating than when I'm in the real world. I don't know who the man of my dreams is. That's what this search is all about
Author Hopeful30 Posted December 12, 2015 Author Posted December 12, 2015 Which is an accurate and weird truth about female psychology. As a guy, the more girls I have around, the more want me. Isn't it the same for men? lol
joystickd Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 No they are not taken. A man is relationship material to a woman he deems relationship material. If you want a relationship minded man then you have to be a relationship minded woman. You can say whatever you want but the problem here is YOU. A man makes a overall assessment of a woman and determines if she is relationship material. The good ones are not taken. The question is: Are you a good woman that is relationship material?
joystickd Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 Isn't it the same for men? lol Not really. 1
MiddleManMike Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 Is it true? Are all relationship-material men taken? Every man that I consider is either in a relationship, or married. That makes sense of course, because I want the qualities that would make a man a good boyfriend/husband. But are there any relationship-material guys who are SINGLE? I'm relationship material, but I've been single for almost two years now (my choice). I'm waiting on a guy who will really be worth it. I'm tired of being with a guy just because singlehood sucks. That being said, are there any men that are the same? Or once a woman shows interest a man just goes with it? Do men hold out like women do? Just because a guy is in a relationship DOES NOT make him good relationship material or a good boyfriend/husband. Lots of those guys are cheating on the women they are with in one way or another. Why anyone would be with somebody because they dont want to be alone is a great mystery to me. That is really sad.
Author Hopeful30 Posted December 12, 2015 Author Posted December 12, 2015 Just because a guy is in a relationship DOES NOT make him good relationship material or a good boyfriend/husband. Lots of those guys are cheating on the women they are with in one way or another. Why anyone would be with somebody because they dont want to be alone is a great mystery to me. That is really sad. Not all of us have been spared with good childhoods to have a normal enough psychology to be alone properly. Besides, I'm alone now and have been for nearly two years. That's good enough progress for me.
Author Hopeful30 Posted December 12, 2015 Author Posted December 12, 2015 Just because a guy is in a relationship DOES NOT make him good relationship material or a good boyfriend/husband. Lots of those guys are cheating on the women they are with in one way or another. Why anyone would be with somebody because they dont want to be alone is a great mystery to me. That is really sad. I never said it makes a man good relationship material. I said that the men I like all happen to be in relationships, which to me makes sense, because I'm interested in a relationship material kinda guy, and most relationship material people are in relationships (generally). Hence my asking where the others are.
truth_seeker Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 Why anyone would be with somebody because they dont want to be alone is a great mystery to me. That is really sad. I know one guy who married this woman off OLD because she would pay his bills... others are very desperate.
Author Hopeful30 Posted December 12, 2015 Author Posted December 12, 2015 I know one guy who married this woman off OLD because she would pay his bills... others are very desperate. But if that's what makes him and her happy, who is to say they are any less of a good couple than everyone else? We are all in it for different things. I wish it was that easy for me to be happy, have a man pay my bills 1
xxoo Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 I never said it makes a man good relationship material. I said that the men I like all happen to be in relationships, which to me makes sense, because I'm interested in a relationship material kinda guy. Chances are they will be in relationships. Has anyone actually read my post? What would you say to a man saying that all the women he likes happen to be in relationships, which makes sense because he's interested in relationship material women? I'd say that he's invested in the fantasy woman, the image more than a person. Are you invested in the fantasy man?
TheTraveler Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 I never said it makes a man good relationship material. I said that the men I like all happen to be in relationships, which to me makes sense, because I'm interested in a relationship material kinda guy, and most relationship material people are in relationships (generally). Hence my asking where the others are. I actually get what you're saying. I'm single and I have married women after me. One recently, after a 2nd date, told me she was married.
Popsicle Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 That makes me feel worse lol. Not everyone has good luck and chance. Or, maybe you WILL get lucky.
Popsicle Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 My girlfriend is incredible, and I was lucky enough to start talking to her right around the time she was getting ready to date again. If it had been a year earlier or later it might have been different. And she was lucky enough to catch me right when circumstance allowed me to move close to her. If I hadn't it might have been different also. There is a lot of luck and chance in it. Maybe even fate. It's not all that's involved, but it can play a part for sure. Totally! This is how it's worked out for me too. It was all just luck and good timing. 2
truth_seeker Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 But if that's what makes him and her happy, who is to say they are any less of a good couple than everyone else? We are all in it for different things. I wish it was that easy for me to be happy, have a man pay my bills You should be in a relationship because you love the person not in it to use them. 1
truth_seeker Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 Totally! This is how it's worked out for me too. It was all just luck and good timing. Luck, Timing and Fate is the ticket. 1
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