What sort of female seeks a sugardaddy and other such questions?

[tokyo]

My guess is that men feel threatened, when they hear about these kind of relationships, because they immediately remember all the poor fellows who got used by women as a meal ticket and they sympathize with the guys who are foolish and desperate enough to agree to a lame relationship with a greedy woman.

 

Women feel threatened, because they were taught that a woman who has sex in exchange for a gratification is immoral. Suddenly they realize that it's possible to have sex and still enjoy its material rewards, the rewards that they themselves don't receive for being good girls. It sucks when you realize that your damn goodness is so wasted. If your goal merely consists in reaching the same material status, then for a woman not using sex equals wasting her best tools and skills. On the other hand if you prefer to be judged on the efforts that you invested in achieving the same goals as the other women then I see no reason why you should complain. For some people it's important that they get credits for their own merits and the end does not justify the means.

[CurlyIam]

Originally posted by kooky

For some people it's important that they get credits for their own merits and the end does not justify the means.

 

Very true. Like they say "all's fair in love and war". Too bad we're talking about neither of the two here, !

[westernxer]

Originally posted by moimeme

And the answer is: "practical ones" LOL

 

I'm thinking more along the lines of opportunistic.

[CurlyIam]

Originally posted by westernxer

I'm thinking more along the lines of opportunistic.

Opportunsitic women take a chance once it rises. This type of women seek exclusively loaded men. It's not "an opportunity", it's their modus operandi.

[westernxer]

Right or wrong, it's still an opportunity, regardless of how you put it.

[CurlyIam]

I see it as a choice. Of course, you're right, it's my personal take on it. To me oportunity is something like: there are 3 men courting me and one rich guy just started hitting on me at the gym. So I'll pick the rich guy.

 

The type I'm speaking of is more like: I'm attending a gym club where all men need to have 2 houses on Ibiza, LOL!

[moimeme]

It sucks when you realize that your damn goodness is so wasted.

 

Amen sistah!

 

I'm thinking more along the lines of opportunistic.

 

You say that like it's a bad thing

 

Let's take modelling for an example. Requires no skills, really, nor education either. Basically, women and men get hugely rewarded because God happened to bestow amazing looks on them. Pictures of their faces and bodies are used, yes, to sell goods, but are also used as fantasy material by people. That, somehow, is perfectly fine.

 

Or let's take the old boys network. Guys do business because they're golf partners or because they go to the same club - yes maybe the companies are ok but there are probably much better ones out there. However the contract goes to the buddy.

 

Fact of life is that plenty of people make pots of money by being opportunistic - grabbing the brass ring when it's within their reach. The West has a very hypocritical way of deciding what's 'moral' and what's not. If it's about violence or getting obscenely rich at the expense of others, it's fine - unless sex is involved

[tokyo]

Opportunistic would mean to change your values depending on what suits you better, if a woman seeks out rich men and tells them beforehand that her loyalty belongs to the dude who makes the most money then I don't really find that opportunistic. Opportunistic would mean to tell him that he's the only one in her life and then dump him when someone with a bigger limo crosses her way.

[westernxer]

Originally posted by kooky

Opportunistic would mean to change your values depending on what suits you better, if a woman seeks out rich men and tells them beforehand that her loyalty belongs to the dude who makes the most money then I don't really find that opportunistic. Opportunistic would mean to tell him that he's the only one in her life and then dump him when someone with a bigger limo crosses her way.

 

I love free enterprise... so does Anna Nicole Smith.

[alphamale]

Originally posted by Tony

(I'm a bit naive, I guess)

you're not kidding TONY

[lindya]

Women feel threatened, because they were taught that a woman who has sex in exchange for a gratification is immoral. Suddenly they realize that it's possible to have sex and still enjoy its material rewards, the rewards that they themselves don't receive for being good girls. It sucks when you realize that your damn goodness is so wasted.

 

Certainly a lot of taboos seem to have been broken down regarding this sort of thing - and women who are up front about using their sexuality for monetary gain are increasingly respected for their sharp business acumen and blunt honesty.

[Tony]

You guys now have me wondering just how much a lady would be willing to pay for my sexual expertise.....????? Nah......nevermind.....

[alphamale]

Originally posted by lindya

- and women who are up front about using their sexuality for monetary gain are increasingly respected for their sharp business acumen and blunt honesty.

Heidi Fleiss

[CurlyIam]

Originally posted by lindya

Certainly a lot of taboos seem to have been broken down regarding this sort of thing - and women who are up front about using their sexuality for monetary gain are increasingly respected for their sharp business acumen and blunt honesty.

 

God, I hope you're just being sarcastic!

[Tony]

"God, I hope you're just being sarcastic!"

 

No, I think this is the way it is these days. I personally would prefer that a woman tell me upfront that she is ONLY interested in me for what she can get out of me monetarily and otherwise than for her to pretend to be fond of me and milk me dry over time....which, incidentally, has happened to me at times in the past.

[moimeme]

You guys now have me wondering just how much a lady would be willing to pay for my sexual expertise.....?????

 

Please list skills, qualifications and references

[lindya]

Originally posted by CurlyIam

God, I hope you're just being sarcastic!

 

No, it's just an observation. Maybe people feel it's worldly wise to take the "good for you, go girl!" approach. Personally I think there are better things to save your admiration for - and I don't think it takes any great business acumen to flog your bod for cash either... but each to their own I suppose

[westernxer]

Originally posted by lindya

...but each to their own I suppose

 

That's how I look at it. It's not like this is a new trend or anything.

[CurlyIam]

I meant sarcastic about the word in bold:

 

and women who are up front about using their sexuality for monetary gain are increasingly respected for their sharp business acumen and blunt honesty.

 

I see nothing respectable about it. Sorry, everybody can uncross their legs. Their making money our of it is hardly consideres "sharp business acumen". In my town it's simply called being loose (to be very lady like), LOL!

 

Tony, I absolutely agree with them being straightforward as to their expectations of you, LOL. Getting the terms of the deal will be at least interesting, I don't know what the market is these days for a blow job, !

[moimeme]

Um.

To me oportunity is something like: there are 3 men courting me and one rich guy just started hitting on me at the gym. So I'll pick the rich guy.

 

Yep. There's a WIDE spectrum of grey.

[CurlyIam]

Hey, you got that wrong, LOL! I'm such a moron at times.

 

I gave that example to argue west's oppinion on the differnce between what an "opportunity" is and what a gold digger is. I'd never go out with a man just because of his bank account, yuk!! I've heard to many blonde jokes for it and too many people saying "Don't take my Porshe against me"!!!

 

 

God only knows I need what you call "practical" sense myself, one could say my ex bf lived on my money during the first two years of our relationship !!!

[Israfil]

Originally posted by CurlyIam

Not really. They're not all business transactions, where one would pay for certain services, unfortunately. Nt everything is black or white. Grey comes in an extraordinary large range of tones .

 

In this case, it is black and white. I will give you “x”, you give me “y”. Finished. Everyone wins. (Or gets murdered – jk)

 

Originally posted by d'Arthez

The only objection you could make from a moral standpoint, is that the woman involved does little to improve herself spiritually / morally. The same is true for the man.

 

Perhaps. But this is of no relevance. Again, you are trying to apply your own morality – that of spiritual growth – to a situation, that for both parties involved, may not involve growth – or SHOULD involve it – at all.

 

Originally posted by moimeme

Please list skills, qualifications and references

 

Reference:

omg, he is soooo hot, and HUGE! He hits the spot. Oo-la-la!

 

Definitely worth the $50 I paid.

 

Originally posted by moimeme

Um.

Yep. There's a WIDE spectrum of grey.

 

And as for what type of woman would engage in such a practice: One who is able to dissociate her emotional from her physical being.

[westernxer]

A girl can go for any guy she wants... doesn't mean he'll reciprocate.

 

However, if she's young and hot, the world is hers for the taking, and sugar daddies will come crawling on their hands and knees to serenade their "trophy wife."

 

Donald Trump is a good example of this, and not because of his killer hairdo.

[d'Arthez]

Originally posted by d'Arthez

The only objection you could make from a moral standpoint, is that the woman involved does little to improve herself spiritually / morally. The same is true for the man.

 

Originally posted by Israfil

Perhaps. But this is of no relevance. Again, you are trying to apply your own morality ? that of spiritual growth ? to a situation, that for both parties involved, may not involve growth ? or SHOULD involve it ? at all.

 

It is of importance. I don't subscribe to relativistic ethics, but to an ethics that is universal in nature, and not subjective the meaning that it depends on ther person.

[moimeme]

but to an ethics that is universal in nature

 

So these ethics apply around the world? Gee. How would that explain arranged marriages that were common - um - everywhere?

 

It's a quaint little conceit to believe that one is the repository of ultimate understanding of 'universal ethics'. But it's ok. Real famous philosophers thought the same thing.