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Odinani Established Member

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It's actually the Beta Men who are forever bashing women and lamenting the fact that women's don't "appreciate" them. :D

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It's only in the past few years that I started hearing the terms alpha and beta.

 

You can credit the MGTOW ("Men Going Their Own Way") movement. They also popularized "slut-shaming" and the term "feminazi".

 

 

But, look at me...preaching to the choir. ;)

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It's not how they act before, but after you meet them. Fact.

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Well you chose those words, and kept clarifying HUGE for some reason.. You could have said "My bf was multi dating when he met me" But you kept saying he was a huge player, playing women like nobodies business..

 

Maybe her S.O. is extraordinarily well endowed and it was just a Freudian slip

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It's only in the past few years that I started hearing the terms alpha and beta.

 

Seems like animal documentaries are a thing now.

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It's actually the Beta Men who are forever bashing women and lamenting the fact that women's don't "appreciate" them. :D

 

I know men who were sitting around laughing with their friends while they listened to an answering machine of their latest conquest pouring her heart out. They just know what BS to tell a woman to get her to fall for them.

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Um, they certainly wouldn't be bragging about that...

 

 

No, they wouldn't. And, they don't. But, mostly because they don't view women in the world the way some of you men do, so they don't feel the need to use *shaming* language directed at women who live their lives as they please, just like men do.

 

If they ever were "bragging" about anything, it was that they were happy to have found someone who made them so happy to have found someone.

 

I did a lot of "bragging" about it, too.

 

 

Most happy people do.

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You can credit the MGTOW ("Men Going Their Own Way") movement. They also popularized "slut-shaming" and the term "feminazi".

 

 

But, look at me...preaching to the choir. ;)

 

Third wave feminists mainly on college campuses popularized the first term and Rush Limbaugh popularized the second. The PUA community community popularized alpha and beta. I don't think very highly of any of the people I described.

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The players don't think too highly of women either. I know men who were sitting around laughing with their friends while they listened to an answering machine of their latest conquest pouring her heart out. They just know what BS to tell a woman to get her to fall for them.

 

The opposite of Beta, is an assertive, quietly confident, attractive man. This is the part the Beta Men don't seem to understand.

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You can credit the MGTOW ("Men Going Their Own Way") movement. They also popularized "slut-shaming" and the term "feminazi".

 

 

But, look at me...preaching to the choir. ;)

 

The women running around talking about alpha and beta? Well what are they? I mean only men are subdivided into these two groups? Do women subdivide themselves as well?

 

I think women need to spend more time worrying about what they have to offer a man other than sex if they want a relationship..And stop worrying about classifications they can't even define.. Or defining a man as alpha or beta after a text message.

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Well you chose those words, and kept clarifying HUGE for some reason.. You could have said "My bf was multi dating when he met me" But you kept saying he was a huge player, playing women like nobodies business..

 

Well I am feisty, emotional and use words like that often for emphasis.

 

Wrong choice of words perhaps, but that's just semantics.

 

I was just trying to make a point in response to a post from mrldii stating once a man (or woman) meets the right person.... does not matter how many women he was dating prior, he will wish to focus solely on her.

 

Which is what happened in my case.

 

No I did not "tame" him... it's not something I am "proud" of.... it's just what it is.

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Maybe her S.O. is extraordinarily well endowed and it was just a Freudian slip

 

LOL.... good one!:bunny::bunny::bunny::bunny::bunny:

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The women running around talking about alpha and beta? Well what are they? I mean only men are subdivided into these two groups? Do women subdivide themselves as well?

 

I think women need to spend more time worrying about what they have to offer a man other than sex if they want a relationship..And stop worrying about classifications they can't even define.. Or defining a man as alpha or beta after a text message.

 

 

Don't look to me to discern what women's subdivisions are.

 

 

According to most of you men, I'm a "feminazi", so I seriously doubt you'd want me to be in charge of corralling the ladies into their appropriate cages so they're more easily identifiable for some of you.

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it's a way for women who cannot sustain a relationship to shame men... So when they remain single due to their own character flaws, they are like "Aww... All these men are betas.. There are so few alphas.. Yeah thats why I am single" because of course they are perfect godly creations, and men must be to blame..

 

Or, they watch a lot of tv and rap videos, and live in a TV reality, in which they feel they deserve one of those fictional guys..

 

Bolded -- Isn't that precisely what you are doing though? Attempting to shame women because YOU cannot sustain a RL?

 

I feel like you are (or were) trying to shame me because my fiancé happened to be dating many women before he met me and chose to stop once he did meet me.

 

Shaming me into feeling like I was "proud" of that... that I felt it was some sort of big accomplishment that he "chose" me. That I secretly felt someone "better" because I was able to "tame" him.

 

When the truth is I felt nothing of the sort.... and never even implied I felt anything close to that.

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The women running around talking about alpha and beta? Well what are they? I mean only men are subdivided into these two groups? Do women subdivide themselves as well?

 

I think women need to spend more time worrying about what they have to offer a man other than sex if they want a relationship..And stop worrying about classifications they can't even define.. Or defining a man as alpha or beta after a text message.

 

I take it you are the latter:p

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Bolded -- Isn't that precisely what you are doing though? Attempting to shame women because YOU cannot sustain a RL?

 

I feel like you are (or were) trying to shame me because my fiancé happened to be dating many women before he met me and chose to stop once he did meet me.

 

Shaming me into feeling like I was "proud" of that... that I felt it was some sort of big accomplishment that he "chose" me. That I secretly felt someone "better" because I was able to "tame" him.

 

When the truth is I felt nothing of the sort.... and never even implied I felt anything close to that.

 

 

He was. It failed. If it had been successful "shaming" of you, you wouldn't have noticed he'd done it.

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Bolded -- Isn't that precisely what you are doing though? Attempting to shame women because YOU cannot sustain a RL?

 

I feel like you are (or were) trying to shame me because my fiancé happened to be dating many women before he met me and chose to stop once he did meet me.

 

Shaming me into feeling like I was "proud" of that... that I felt it was some sort of big accomplishment that he "chose" me. That I secretly felt someone "better" because I was able to "tame" him.

 

When the truth is I felt nothing of the sort.... and never even implied I felt anything close to that.

 

Well you called him a player..Huge player that was juggling women..

 

Player: A male who is skilled at manipulating ("playing") others, and especially at seducing women by pretending to care about them, when in reality they are only interested in sex.

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Well you called him a player..Huge player that was juggling women..

 

Player: A male who is skilled at manipulating ("playing") others, and especially at seducing women by pretending to care about them, when in reality they are only interested in sex.

 

Eh, that's not always what women mean when they refer to a man in those terms. It could just mean someone who had lots of casual sex. Casual sex can be mutually desired.

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He was. It failed. If it had been successful "shaming" of you, you wouldn't have noticed he'd done it.

 

Lol.. No, I was pointing how she was proud of dating a player... A difference between men and women.. Men are not proud of dating women who were with many men.. it would be a secret.

 

Once again, this carries over from other threads, where every single female states players are a huge turn off, when it suits their argument to say men and women are so much alike..

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These Betas need to understand that going on rants against women, trying to shame them and claiming women are only into players is just making them even more unattractive to women.

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Well you called him a player..Huge player that was juggling women..

 

Player: A male who is skilled at manipulating ("playing") others, and especially at seducing women by pretending to care about them, when in reality they are only interested in sex.

 

 

*CRAP*

 

I just turned in my fantasy football roster.

 

 

How the hell is my team gonna score any points for me (and win me $$$) if all my players are busy "seducing women" instead of "scoring touchdowns"?

 

 

 

 

Since we're listing Urban Dictionary definitions:

 

"Slut" = "a woman who will have sex, but just not with you".

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Eh, that's not always what women mean when they refer to a man they like as a player. It could just mean someone who had lots of casual sex. Casual sex can be mutually desired.

 

Ok, well then they use the wrong term..

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Lol.. No, I was pointing how she was proud of dating a player... A difference between men and women.. Men are not proud of dating women who were with many men.. it would be a secret.

 

Once again, this carries over from other threads, where every single female states players are a huge turn off, when it suits their argument to say men and women are so much alike..

 

Not all women--or men--are alike.

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Ok, well then they use the wrong term..

 

Ok.

 

But that's the word we use between ourselves. Tone conveys meaning.

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*CRAP*

 

I just turned in my fantasy football roster.

 

 

How the hell is my team gonna score any points for me (and win me $$$) if all my players are busy "seducing women" instead of "scoring touchdowns"?

 

 

 

 

Since we're listing Urban Dictionary definitions:

 

"Slut" = "a woman who will have sex, but just not with you".

 

Yeah, the players are playing a game .. In that case football..

 

In the other case the game is women..

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