Guyouthere Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 But I don't, at all, so what's next? People always say the answer to everything is self improvement, well I'm obsessively into self improvement. I'm obsessed with being the best version of myself, so what's next? not good to be too obsessed…. that can lead to narcissism. Just be you. I find it odd that you say you can't get pretty women…. I honestly don't know the answer. Maybe your physical standards are too high? I think most women are pretty. Some have features I prefer to others. We all do that (men and women play the same game). Physical attraction is what gets my eye first. Second is the personality.
kilgore Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 I think you need to create the opportunity. All the guys I had long term relationships with ...I didn't even know they existed till they approached me. I really think you're missing the boat on this one. And of course less attractive girls may be be more assertive out there so do not gauge your attractiveness in their interest in you. However ...you must step up to the batter's box. But others in this thread have told you that and you seem resentful of having to do that. So I'll offer the challenge once again ...ask 5 girls out this weekend ...girls of your choosing not ones who give you some signal. Right. You have to be confident even if you feel scared and insecure. I was always nervous to ask women out. I was shy, decent looking but also hung like a light switch. But I did it anyway and it worked out in the end. 1
CosmicGate7 Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 I think you need to create the opportunity. All the guys I had long term relationships with ...I didn't even know they existed till they approached me. I really think you're missing the boat on this one. And of course less attractive girls may be be more assertive out there so do not gauge your attractiveness in their interest in you. However ...you must step up to the batter's box. But others in this thread have told you that and you seem resentful of having to do that. So I'll offer the challenge once again ...ask 5 girls out this weekend ...girls of your choosing not ones who give you some signal. you don't understand how hard it is on the other side You approach a girl, she gives you no sign that she may be interested and you ask her out of the blue. It's beyond incredibly awkward. "So how about them cubs, oh by the way you wanna go out sometime?" I don't know how other guys can do it. If she has given me no indication that she may be into me, won't it be an automatic and instant rejection? I think I've asked out 3 women like that before and every last one of them was a fierce and instant rejection.
CosmicGate7 Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Maybe your physical standards are too high? you want me to be honest? My ideal is fitness model type figure. I have the male equivalent of that so I believe I deserve the female equivalent What would I take? Anybody who is decent looking and not fat.
joseb Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 SO basically the whole thread could be summed up as this OP : I'm afraid to ask girls out unless they are blatantly obviously into me and there is no chance of any embarrassment from rejection. Well unfortunately, that is not going to happen. You need to man up and start chatting girls up you are attracted to. Most women don't even know if they are attracted to you anyway until you start talking to them. So you waiting to see this big flashing light telling you it's ok, it's safe, she won't reject me - never (well very rarely) going to happen. The only way to get better at it is to do it. Almost nobody finds it easy. But if you want to meet affractive women then you are going to have to push through your discomfort. 1
CosmicGate7 Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 SO basically the whole thread could be summed up as this OP : I'm afraid to ask girls out unless they are blatantly obviously into me and there is no chance of any embarrassment from rejection. Well unfortunately, that is not going to happen. You need to man up and start chatting girls up you are attracted to. Most women don't even know if they are attracted to you anyway until you start talking to them. So you waiting to see this big flashing light telling you it's ok, it's safe, she won't reject me - never (well very rarely) going to happen. The only way to get better at it is to do it. Almost nobody finds it easy. But if you want to meet affractive women then you are going to have to push through your discomfort. I'm very good at reading body language so the signs can be very subtle and I will sense them but it just does not happen This is how the overwhelming majority of men are. Most men will not ask a woman out unless they get some indication that she's open to it. The difference is that most men come across women who are attracted to them, I don't (not anybody in my league)
BLND Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 You really do think very highly of yourself. Women tend to sense that. Even those you think you deserve, are probably seeing that, and are not attracted to you. 1
barbossa Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 I am probably gonna hit close to 180K this year, not too shabby for my age. Best of all, I live in a reasonable area and I'm not in some bogus profession like doctor where I have 800 K student loans. I paid off my student loans last year As far as my car goes, I have a pearl White Lexus GS. Very beautiful car. I couldn't get a corvette because I'm a big guy and it does not fit me 180k at 26? I have friends with MBA's from MIT working at google and facebook not making that amount. I also have older friends computer programmers for 15 years not making that they make 120-150. but they are 40 not 26 something is wrong with you if you can't meet girls with the amount you are making, Your car is just OK, I am glad you like it but by no means is it a chick magnet. nobody in my city would even look at that car,
SwordofFlame Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 It seems the OP just refuses to take any chances or try something new. Doing the same things over and over again while expecting a different result is insanity. 1
CosmicGate7 Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 180k at 26? I have friends with MBA's from MIT working at google and facebook not making that amount. I also have older friends computer programmers for 15 years not making that they make 120-150. but they are 40 not 26 something is wrong with you if you can't meet girls with the amount you are making, Your car is just OK, I am glad you like it but by no means is it a chick magnet. nobody in my city would even look at that car, I work in a sales profession that allows you to make tremendous income at a very young age if you're very good at it...and I may be one of the best in the country at what I do I'm very grateful and fortunate to be in this position. I kind of stumbled into the job by accident and then worked very hard to be the best I can be.
joseb Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 I'm very good at reading body language so the signs can be very subtle and I will sense them but it just does not happen This is how the overwhelming majority of men are. Most men will not ask a woman out unless they get some indication that she's open to it. The difference is that most men come across women who are attracted to them, I don't (not anybody in my league) Well then either you are giving off a terrible vibe with the way you approach women, or you banter is really awful and turns them off. Or you are full of yourself and try to impress them too much. That or you are actually clueless when it comes to reading women. Or you just like to complain here and none of it is true. Or we could go with what you seem to believe. The universe has been set up as an experiment and it revolves around the fact that all women have been specifically set up to ignore you.
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