Toodaloo Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 What it's like to be celibate and why it's all men's fault | Daily Mail Online Please start dating us and treating us with a bit of respect... We are gagging but fed up with being treated badly... Just saying... And yes I know its not all men blagh blagh blagh... 2
Michelle ma Belle Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 Oh boy Toodaloo. You know there will be men who are going to tell you women are just as guilty of this, right? Regardless, sorry you're having a hard time. 2
kpl Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 if we all stopped wasting time with ppl who don't mean us well we will have less experiences of being mistreated. 6
Gaeta Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 Well, after reading this I am ready to open my wrists..... 1
Author Toodaloo Posted October 22, 2015 Author Posted October 22, 2015 Well, after reading this I am ready to open my wrists..... Yeah me too... I have been trying to open my legs but just can't find a guy worth it! MMB - don't worry - I currently have a strong contender. You will know how he gets on by his ability to walk or not after I have finished with him! 3
Krieger Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 Well if i had something more to offer i would get back in the game.
Vintage79 Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 Maybe I missed something, as I just skimmed the article - but it seems to be stating over and over again, that it's the women that don't really want to date/meet/have sex, unless it's a committed, very serious relationship - they want to skip over the beginning of a relationship - this seems like a problem with the women, and a hallmark of spinsterisms...they are forcing themselves to be perpetually single and sexless - this doesn't have to do with the guys... 5
autumnnight Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 Maybe I missed something, as I just skimmed the article - but it seems to be stating over and over again, that it's the women that don't really want to date/meet/have sex, unless it's a committed, very serious relationship - they want to skip over the beginning of a relationship - this seems like a problem with the women, and a hallmark of spinsterisms...they are forcing themselves to be perpetually single and sexless - this doesn't have to do with the guys... dingdingding! We have a winner! That was fast! 1
SammySammy Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 Maybe I missed something, as I just skimmed the article - but it seems to be stating over and over again, that it's the women that don't really want to date/meet/have sex, unless it's a committed, very serious relationship - they want to skip over the beginning of a relationship - this seems like a problem with the women, and a hallmark of spinsterisms...they are forcing themselves to be perpetually single and sexless - this doesn't have to do with the guys... Yep. I read the article and was wondering how was it all men's fault.
mr_dave Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 What it's like to be celibate and why it's all men's fault | Daily Mail Online Please start dating us and treating us with a bit of respect... We are gagging but fed up with being treated badly... Just saying... And yes I know its not all men blagh blagh blagh... It's not all men, but some women choose these men and encourage it. It's up to women to demand that a man court them properly, that he takes them out on dates and gets to know them respectfully, ascertaining his motives before getting intimate. If he doesn't want to get to know you in that way, then next him. God forbid if you're a guy and you express to a woman that you like them fairly early on, or you talk about things in a long term sense. It has them running for the hills! How many women sleep with the distant, mysterious guy only for him to go cold straight afterwards? That's on the woman... 3
Author Toodaloo Posted October 22, 2015 Author Posted October 22, 2015 dingdingding! We have a winner! That was fast! You are getting to know me FAR too well Would be nice to know that I can have a load of sex with a great guy before I die... Its not as if I am 70 and everything is still in perfect working order... Shall I cry now or later do you think? 1
PegNosePete Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 I read the article and thought, well that's good for women isn't it? The more "give up", the less competition you have for the good guys. 2
Single2007 Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 And yet every woman I have dated will screw me and send me pics and text me but the second "exclusive" comes up and I start being a little emotional they run off. Start accepting what you claim you want and we don't have a problem.
Author Toodaloo Posted October 22, 2015 Author Posted October 22, 2015 I read the article and thought, well that's good for women isn't it? The more "give up", the less competition you have for the good guys. Here is hoping!
PaperCrane Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) What it's like to be celibate and why it's all men's fault | Daily Mail Online Please start dating us and treating us with a bit of respect... We are gagging but fed up with being treated badly... Just saying... And yes I know its not all men blagh blagh blagh... I'm...I'm so confused about this article. How is it my fault as a gendered Male that these women are where they are? I ask and approach piles of women. Of those I've secured a whopping two (2! Nice round number eh?) dates for the next week. And I mean I asked literally every girl I remotely found to be interesting/attractive/fun/equally dorky. Not even having to have a combination of the aforementioned either. The reasons for refusal; 1. I'm not looking for a relationship. (Durr, I don't wanna be in one with you.) 2. I only see you as a friend. (Dafuq? I just met you 10 minutes ago.) 3. I'm like, really, like, busy yo. 4. I'm not single. 5. They are a literal tree. Now I'm not being grumpy about this. Some men have better luck some don't. I'm happy I secured two dates. However what I see here is that the large majority of men simply don't have the bollocks to keep approaching woman after woman, seeing her and having his heart race, approaching her, only to be shot down. Over and over and over again. This is what makes it so many men only approach very attractive women. When they get rejected so much, unless they get something they deem "worth it" they will view themselves as a failure. If they "settle" they won't be happy because as a man we always feel we could have "done more". This leaves many other women dateless because then they get skimmed over by the large pool of rejected men or get used simply as a rebound. I'm not one to presume that it's anyone or any gender in particular at fault. However I can understand why men get frustrated. As the ones who must pursue all the time, when you're rarely ever rewarded for your efforts, you tend to just say "**** it." Then you get left with the *******s whom are married/taken and go for the low hanging fruit. Edited October 22, 2015 by PaperCrane 1
jh21 Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 So it's a mans fault that some woman who gave it away for free when she was younger decides she doesn't want to do that anymore and just wants to cuddle? Or that she has no sex drive anymore? And somehow that is the mans fault? Good luck finding a man when you tell him you have no interest in sex. Good lord. 2
Wewon Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 I read the article and didn't see how any of these women's situations were the fault of men; I would just file most of their situations under "Life's tough". Most of them left a relationship and then never went into another one. I suspect that part of the reason is because they mistakenly believe that what worked for them at 25 should work for them at 45 or 55. Life circumstances, the environments that they're in and a whole slew of other variables have changed and they have to change with them. 3
carhill Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 Happy to oblige and did so yesterday evening with someone who apparently identifies with the article under discussion. Life goes on.
Robert Z Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) Good luck finding a man when you tell him you have no interest in sex. Hey at least they're honest! How many more pretend to have an interest in sex just long enough to hook someone? I remember one woman on a dating site who stated that she wanted a loving relationship but didn't want to have sex. She just wanted to go crabbing! Gotta hand it to her - it was honest. I married a woman who wanted to cuddle but not have sex! Some start young. And men my age have often joked about knowing full well that there are plenty of women like that out there. It is enough to make a man chase escorts! The other comment struck me: Can't find any men good enough. Hmmm. Please see every post I've ever made about marriage and the fallout from the women's lib movement. Edited October 22, 2015 by Robert Z
LostOnes05 Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 It's not all men, but some women choose these men and encourage it. It's up to women to demand that a man court them properly, that he takes them out on dates and gets to know them respectfully, ascertaining his motives before getting intimate. If he doesn't want to get to know you in that way, then next him. God forbid if you're a guy and you express to a woman that you like them fairly early on, or you talk about things in a long term sense. It has them running for the hills! How many women sleep with the distant, mysterious guy only for him to go cold straight afterwards? That's on the woman... Yep, I've had this happen to me all the time. Treated women with the utmost respect and got dumped. Then they turn around and get the opposite kind of guy and cry when he gets what he wants, embarrasses them, and leaves. It gets annoying and old very quickly. 1
loveflower Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 Yes. It seems western guys do not really respect and value women. BUT it maybe because that's the women's own doing as a whole. you know, you teach people how to treat you. The same goes with how men treat women. It is not fair to individual women who didn't do anything to deserve that though. 1
loveflower Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 Yep, I've had this happen to me all the time. Treated women with the utmost respect and got dumped. Then they turn around and get the opposite kind of guy and cry when he gets what he wants, embarrasses them, and leaves. It gets annoying and old very quickly. oh, this reminds me of that 'I told my gf to shut up' thread in this forum...
Single2007 Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 Yep, I've had this happen to me all the time. Treated women with the utmost respect and got dumped. Then they turn around and get the opposite kind of guy and cry when he gets what he wants, embarrasses them, and leaves. It gets annoying and old very quickly. It's a freaking joke. That just happened to me two weeks ago. Some of these woman who claim to be "emotionally abused" get what they deserve. 1
salparadise Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) Yeah me too... I have been trying to open my legs but just can't find a guy worth it! MMB - don't worry - I currently have a strong contender. You will know how he gets on by his ability to walk or not after I have finished with him! I thought you had found someone you were enthusiastic about a month or two ago? Same guy? And you haven't run him through the grinder yet? Edited October 22, 2015 by salparadise
LostOnes05 Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 oh, this reminds me of that 'I told my gf to shut up' thread in this forum... How so? The only time I ever yelled at a woman was the end of my first relationship when my ex cheated on me. Other than situations like that, I'd rather not get angry. It's not a good way to express yourself or communicate to a partner. Now I'll call them out on things that are ridiculous, but I definitely pick my battles. 1
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