What's The Male Equivalent of an Attractive Woman?

October 8, 2015

I agree but how can we compare men who are 1 in a million to women who are 1 in 10 (if not 1 in 5)? It seems like a very unfair analogy

isn't a man who is 1 in a million better than a woman who is 1 in 10???

"Hey baby! You are 1 in 10!"

October 8, 2015

Wouldn't the male equivalent of an attractive woman simply be an attractive man?

absolutely not - a female 7/10 has it a 1000 times easier in dating than a male 7/10, with all traits being considered equal

What I'm asking is who are the men who have it equally easy in dating as the 7/10 female?

October 8, 2015

I'm a fairly attractive looking guy, average height and in good shape. What I lack in looks, I more than make up for in charm. I'm fairly well educated and have a positive attitude. I treat the women I'm with with respect and I'm well rounded when it comes to interests.

I have no issues getting dates.

Different women are attracted to different types. And its taken 15 years to realize, but now I go after (and generally date) the women I want.

Part of that is confidence, but it's also knowing what my type is and how to attract them.

October 8, 2015

what are you talking about? Women have the best of both worlds nowadays - they can approach and ask men out or wait back and have 5032580258 men ask them out.

I have maybe a 100 male friends and acquaintances, I don't know a single guy who has a problem with being approached or a woman making moves if she's decent looking. Most of my friends are bodybuilders, football players, etc... I don't hang out with many effeminate males

Anyways, you say this but I'm pretty sure you would be horrified if you had the dating life of a male. Most women have a shattered ego if they get rejected once - imagine getting rejected 10 or 15 times (or more) every week

90% guys I dated, have no problem getting date or getting late. They have it easier than me

October 8, 2015

90% guys I dated, have no problem getting date or getting late. They have it easier than me

You're not dating average males. the 80/20 rule is in strong effect here - you're likely seeing the men who are also seeing 6 other women. Women have no interest in a man unless he's being pursued by tons and tons of other females. It's just fact of life

October 8, 2015

Women have no interest in a man unless he's being pursued by tons and tons of other females. It's just fact of life

Ah, you know all of us so well (you must be busy as there are about 3.5 billion of us)...

October 8, 2015

You're not dating average males. the 80/20 rule is in strong effect here - you're likely seeing the men who are also seeing 6 other women. Women have no interest in a man unless he's being pursued by tons and tons of other females. It's just fact of life

I meant to say "getting date or getting laid" lol

ok maybe they are above average males. But your post IS about attractive people, Not average people, right?

So Im just saying attractive guys don't have it that hard. I actually think they have it easier when it comes to long term relationships.

If an attractive guy wants to settle, he can find an attractive girl. If an attractive girl wants to settle, 90% of the guys after her only want sex.

October 8, 2015

Women have no interest in a man unless he's being pursued by tons and tons of other females. It's just fact of life

lol You make it sound like we are interested in them specifically because they have other options? So if the same person didn't have other women interested we would suddenly lost interest?

October 8, 2015

I think the problem here is that you are looking at this strictly from a male perspective, including stereotypes for what is seen as "good." Allow me to try to break this down from my perspective.

An attractive woman basically has life on a silver platter - she gets hit on by 2350325820582 men the second she steps outside of her house and generally has a line of admirers wherever she goes. No dating rules really apply to her - men everywhere want her

Ok firstly, no one has life on a silver platter unless maybe they are born millionaires. Everyone struggles with personal problems. As for getting hit on in the way that you say, that is hyperbole - not a good way to start a discussion. I will, however, say that a VERY attractive woman will be hit on often, but that does not necessarily mean anything good. Have you taken a look at the our sex? Come on, honestly think about how many seriously amazing, decent, mature male lovers are out there... I am well acquainted with a very attractive woman, and have watched in disgust as wave after wave of PIGS seem to throw themselves at her. The experience is as you say, lots of offers. But I would say 1 in 20 might actually be decent, and that is being generous. If that kind of experience looks desirable to you, well, to each his own. But men can really be disgusting and perverted.

Is there a male equivalent of this outside of maybe being very famous? Obviously there are way way way more attractive women than rich and famous men so the analogy wouldn't be valid.

I don't think you are looking for the equivalent in level of attraction. I think you are looking for how to attract women the way women attract men. And that is a very big step to take. Because we are different sexes. I think men's sex drive is largely dominated by sight, so they will immediately jump at every pretty girl out there, whereas that of a woman seems to gauge based on more than sight alone, which could be one reason why they don't jump at every cute looking guy. Also, when you said "the rules don't apply," I will agree with you somewhat, but only in saying further that "the rules that the male sex follows do not apply." Women have their own to follow. This, I won't even get into, because I am no master at it. But I will say that they have their own rules, which, equally, don't apply to us.

So to answer what I believe is your real question, "how can I attract females in a way that is similar and in proportion to the way that they attract males?" - Join a rock band.

October 8, 2015

Most of my friends are bodybuilders, football players, etc... I don't hang out with many effeminate males

There might be half the problem, assuming that bodybuilders, football players = attractive male while effeminate male = poison. Maybe the problem is not with men but with the assumptions they make about what's considered attractive. It's the same old **** again.....outdated male stereotypes and the people who believe them trying to solve a riddle when there isn't one. I think you'll find that women have a much broader definition of attractive male than men do. This whole thread is rife with male stereotypical thinking, it's kind of cringe worthy.

You only have to look at gay male magazines to get an idea of what men think an attractive male looks like. But this may not be what women think an attractive male looks like and hence the reason why men who aspire to this look don't get covered in bitches. Well.....they might, but in that case they might be same sex bitches.

This thread reads like.....I'm a macho dude godammit, why aren't women swamping me?

Because perhaps women find this kind of thinking a total turn-off and perhaps conforming to a stereotypical male look is equally a turn-off. We can't help it if men aren't that fussy and find 7 & 8 stereotypical women attractive.

Edited October 8, 2015 by Buddhist

October 8, 2015

OP, I don't necessarily agree of your view of what life is like for an attractive woman. I've never been an attractive woman and neither have you, so we're observing from the outside. However, hypothetically speaking, I would say a wealthy man in certain venues can have the experiences you're describing. I have a friend who is a partner in a successful law firm. He is very wealthy and he would occasionally be my wingman. On these occasions, he would loan me his Maserati and he gave me an old Armani suit. These were the only times in my life when attractive women approached me and basically threw themselves at me.

October 8, 2015

Yes women have it in general easier than men in dating, if you consider them having the picker / sorter role easier.

Personally I would rather be in control of who I approach instead of passively waiting for someone who's good 'nuff.

October 8, 2015

An attractive woman basically has life on a silver platter - she gets hit on by 2350325820582 men the second she steps outside of her house and generally has a line of admirers

A silver platter, really? There are millions of very attractive women all around the world living in absolute poverty..very very far from 'life on a silver platter'. Attractive women -even insanely attractive women- have the same exact life struggles as everyone else: family problems, money problems, health problems, relationship problems, crime, mental health problems. Attractive women get cheated on and dumped too. There was a very pretty girl in my secondary school whose mum was dying of cancer while we were in our final year struggling with exams. I had another very pretty friend who got beaten by other jealous girls in school.

You say your 15 year old sisters had guys in their 30' s hitting on them. Grown up men hitting on teenagers/children, pretty creepy in my books. Why do you think that it is so great?

I think i am an attractive lady. I dont get hit on 836728 times in a day and dont have a line of admirers either. I have guys who probably hit on every women they encounter hit on me too. They do it as a hobby.

And as for admirers..more like pervy guys beeping their carhorns driving past, shouting obscenities, blocking your path while out jogging. I have problems with relationships. I am single, on several dating sites. I have been stood up, i have wasted my time on guys who just wanted to be text buddies without ever meeting up, encountered guys who were actually married, liars. I get messages such as "you are so pretty , you surely dont need to be on a dating site. What is wrong with you, whats the catch lol haha?" Charming...

I yearn for a deep connection just like all of us, and i struggle to find it just like all of us. I get messages for sure but very few quality ones. There are talks of dates but they never materialise...all the usual bs. Honestly op, being a pretty girl doesnt protect you from pain, heartache, loneliness, judgement ("if she is pretty she must be selfish/stupid/mean/boring")

October 8, 2015

The word attractive is not universal. You have so many types. People have types and it does not matter how attractive you are if you do not fit into that type, then it does not work.

If a woman enters a room and has an exotic tall beautiful look, but the men are into shorter, all American, casual look, for LTRs, then the exotic woman may not be taken seriously or used temporarily.

I once mentioned I thought Chris Pine the actor was gorgeous and I had a friend knock him down looks wise every which way.

October 8, 2015

I have a few female friends in their 40s.

They are simply beautiful and their phones are constantly going off from guys wanting to get into their pants.

Some do.

Some end up just being their walking ATM for the night when they want to go out drinking.

Most are guys they dated with money who turned out to be loosers or players that just wanted them as side women or fwbs.

The rest were just bad in bed or clingy and turned them off.

So yeah, men flock to these women but they aren't quality men and the women have zero respect for them.

Alternatively I've never seen a quality man last long with these beautiful women.

It's the jerks and loosers and crazies that end up lasting the longest.

My only real life experience with with women I personally know that are a step above the rest in looks.

On the other hand I knew a guy, 6'4" built like a pro volleyball player, crap personality but extremely good looking would go out any night to any club and pull amazingly hot women every time with ease. No money and lived with parents.

Op I agree with your observations on hot women and the way men are just plain pathetic when it comes to them but if the woman doesn't have anything else going for her but her looks pretty much only the low quality men are going to stick around.

Also op, you are either not as attractive as you think you are or your mannerisms are turning women off.

Possibly your gripe posted here is somehow showing in real life when you interact with women.

Or I could be wrong.

When I looked like I did in my profile pic a fee yrs back I had a difficult time finding women to date.

Considering I was 41 and in better shape than most guys half my age I thought it would be easy getting a gf.

Nope most thought I was just a player or so insecure they wouldn't believe I was just sleeping with them and they'd bail.

Now 20lbs heavier with a bellah I do better with the attractive ladies.

I assume it's because my social skills, lack of desperation, and not wasting my time chasing women that just arnt that into me is the major reason.

October 8, 2015

OP, I don't necessarily agree of your view of what life is like for an attractive woman. I've never been an attractive woman and neither have you, so we're observing from the outside. However, hypothetically speaking, I would say a wealthy man in certain venues can have the experiences you're describing. I have a friend who is a partner in a successful law firm. He is very wealthy and he would occasionally be my wingman. On these occasions, he would loan me his Maserati and he gave me an old Armani suit. These were the only times in my life when attractive women approached me and basically threw themselves at me.

Complete nonsense

I'm pulling close to 200K this year, drive a gorgeous Lexus GS 350 luxury edition and wear the latest and greatest in fashion. I couldn't get a date if the entire fate of the universe depended on it

October 8, 2015

I think the problem here is that you are looking at this strictly from a male perspective, including stereotypes for what is seen as "good." Allow me to try to break this down from my perspective.

Ok firstly, no one has life on a silver platter unless maybe they are born millionaires. Everyone struggles with personal problems. As for getting hit on in the way that you say, that is hyperbole - not a good way to start a discussion. I will, however, say that a VERY attractive woman will be hit on often, but that does not necessarily mean anything good. Have you taken a look at the our sex? Come on, honestly think about how many seriously amazing, decent, mature male lovers are out there... I am well acquainted with a very attractive woman, and have watched in disgust as wave after wave of PIGS seem to throw themselves at her. The experience is as you say, lots of offers. But I would say 1 in 20 might actually be decent, and that is being generous. If that kind of experience looks desirable to you, well, to each his own. But men can really be disgusting and perverted.

1 in 20 is bad? So they're getting hit on by 10 good prospects a week

If you think that's bad, you're insane

October 8, 2015

Complete nonsense

I'm pulling close to 200K this year, drive a gorgeous Lexus GS 350 luxury edition and wear the latest and greatest in fashion. I couldn't get a date if the entire fate of the universe depended on it

Then the only reason I can think of why u don't get as many dates as u should providinG everything u describe about yourself so far, is The fact that you're good looking may just be subjective. Sorry, can't think of anything else, u seem perfect on paper.

October 8, 2015

Complete nonsense

I'm pulling close to 200K this year, drive a gorgeous Lexus GS 350 luxury edition and wear the latest and greatest in fashion. I couldn't get a date if the entire fate of the universe depended on it

Note that I specified certain venues. It's not universal. Furthermore the Lexus GS 350 is around $50K, right? The Maserati is $160K+. It's not really a comparison when it comes to a show of wealth.

October 8, 2015

Complete nonsense

I'm pulling close to 200K this year, drive a gorgeous Lexus GS 350 luxury edition and wear the latest and greatest in fashion. I couldn't get a date if the entire fate of the universe depended on it

If this is true are you really as attractive as you think? This thread screams of jealousy towards women.

October 8, 2015

Then the only reason I can think of why u don't get as many dates as u should providinG everything u describe about yourself so far, is The fact that you're good looking may just be subjective. Sorry, can't think of anything else, u seem perfect on paper.

Everybody's looks are subjective to a degree. I've had a few people say I was average but many others who said I was extremely handsome

I've been told gay men have very high standards for male attractiveness and gay men go absolutely crazy for me. I had one gay dude who wouldn't stop complimenting me for an hour - said he loves my arms, smile, teeth, eyes, etc... I was very flattered of course but I don't like men

October 8, 2015

Note that I specified certain venues. It's not universal. Furthermore the Lexus GS 350 is around $50K, right? The Maserati is $160K+. It's not really a comparison when it comes to a show of wealth.

Maseratis are around 70 to 100K. My GS stickered at 63K new

October 8, 2015

Not necessarily true. I have a lot of gay friends and the guys they usually like don't do anything for me. But seriously, i have guy friends who are successful and good looking and they have girls hit on them everywhere they go. I don't see what the problem is here with you not getting as many dates as u want. Are u a tall guy?

October 8, 2015

Looks are subjective and you cannot go by ratings or by someone rating themselves. It is very subjective.

Funny, I once had to communicate with two females who were obviously buddies, and when I approached, one of them turned and said, Oh my goodness, you are gorgeous, and her friend proceeded to say, She is not all that. And then the two went on to argue whether I was ugly or not oblivious to me standing there. I was like this is not fricking happening right now! Surreal.

October 8, 2015

Not necessarily true. I have a lot of gay friends and the guys they usually like don't do anything for me. But seriously, i have guy friends who are successful and good looking and they have girls hit on them everywhere they go. I don't see what the problem is here with you not getting as many dates as u want. Are u a tall guy?

I'm 5'10, it's not a great height but I make up for it with good posture and a thick football player build

I think gay men go berserk for me because I'm both manly looking yet a little pretty in the face and I dress very sharp.

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