rocketman122 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Yeah, I know some women that aren't into the whole body building men. I've seen some women that do the body building thing, and it's a turn off for me...I prefer women who keep the weights small and keep themselves no more than toned...no mass. In fact, the last couple of women I dated said they weren't into looks, and more into personality (women are less visual than men.) There are exceptions where women tend to think really hot men may cheat on them or something, and thus they go for the average looking guys. I've seen a couple of body building competing women on POF, not sure why they are on there because they are in a world where they meet men in their category, right? this is true. there was some survey where they showed women computer generated images of the same man with different body types. from fat to very muscular. very obvious, the vast majority chose the most muscular for passionate sex and desire and ons, but chose the fattest guy for a long term relationship because he would be loyal, as he wouldnt have many options to persuade him to cheat. im the BB whos loyal though. Rocketman122- why are you letting someone's preference in men get you so riled up? I am sure there are women out there who may like your body but there are others who don't. Nothing to get angry about. Sheesh. I like a good argument. most people tell their opinions based on their personal experience so I figure people who dont attract good looking people would say "I dont like muscular BB type" Chippendale dancers arent successful because of any other reason because theyre muscular and look good. not only are the women very attracted to them they throw themselves at them. and a lot of them are very big. most definitely bb sized. some smaller, but they dont look like a hs teenager who thinks getting ripped makes him look good when hes still skinny as a toothpick. I know from when I started working out, interest level in women has only increased.
Celeste.Carol Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Chippendale=Not; Pro tennis players natural and beautiful physique, long lean muscle= Enticing
LookAtThisPOst Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 this is true. there was some survey where they showed women computer generated images of the same man with different body types. from fat to very muscular. very obvious, the vast majority chose the most muscular for passionate sex and desire and ons, but chose the fattest guy for a long term relationship because he would be loyal, as he wouldnt have many options to persuade him to cheat. im the BB whos loyal though. I know what you mean. Thing was,this one woman wasn't in shape herself...but was my body type physically...she was just very curvy, the weight she put on filled her out nicely. LOL Just what I'm into I guess, but she said she stays away from those guys deliberately. So some women who aren't in shape themselves, could likely see they have physical flaws and date their equal in looks. Also, I recently found out that 32% of SHORT men , are less likely to divorce women as they form stronger bonds with them, and more likely to WORK on their marriage. I'm sure there are analogous ties that can come between being tall and being muscular. I recall one woman posting on a dating board somewhere, where this guy at a gym, muscular was trying to ask her out, but she kept rejecting him because, even though he was nice...he was just too short for her. Hm, short and muscular can still be a hurdle?
phineas Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 I know this, but why the BS dates and making out and what not. Why not just say no "CFG I'm not dating you" Save me the trouble of invested effort and some feelings Effort is the key word here. If a woman is into you it takes very little effort to make out with her. But you admit it took time to "warm her up". If she was into you she would of been ready to go and kissing at the beginning of a date. From what you described of her behavior I would of bailed after the 2 nd. You wasted your own time chasing after a chick that wasn't into you. 4
phineas Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Feels like I'm back on the school playground. Are you on steroids? Every male star with muscles and professional athelete is a bodybuilder. They all lift weights to increase strength and muscle mass. Stop being so obtuse or if not, stop being so narrow minded.
rocketman122 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 I know what you mean. Thing was,this one woman wasn't in shape herself...but was my body type physically...she was just very curvy, the weight she put on filled her out nicely. LOL Just what I'm into I guess, but she said she stays away from those guys deliberately. So some women who aren't in shape themselves, could likely see they have physical flaws and date their equal in looks. Also, I recently found out that 32% of SHORT men , are less likely to divorce women as they form stronger bonds with them, and more likely to WORK on their marriage. I'm sure there are analogous ties that can come between being tall and being muscular. I recall one woman posting on a dating board somewhere, where this guy at a gym, muscular was trying to ask her out, but she kept rejecting him because, even though he was nice...he was just too short for her. Hm, short and muscular can still be a hurdle? height is a very desirable attribute women like. I read many posts of women doing OLD that say "if youre shorter than 180cm dont contact me" and they write it just like that. many women are tall so they have a very hard time finding a tall guy. in my country the guys are short on average so that adds to my success. I get a lot of messages from tall women. not my thing though. 170cm is my max height. I dont mind dating a woman who has a tummy or isnt a fitness freak. not an issue for me. not heavy set women though. a lot of women have self esteem issues so they get intimidated by guys who look very good. a lot of women dont want to date a guy that looks better than them. same with some men as well. we know many guys get intimidated to go upt to a very hit woman at a bar to hit on. its no different than women. you can always get bigger and more muscular, but you can never get taller. it sound reasonable that shorter men might put more effort but who knows. I put a lot of effort in my relationship though. short guys seem to like tall women. its like an accomplishment for them that they were able to nab a tall girl. when I see a tall women with a short guy, or guy around her height, I cant help to laugh though. unless the girl is overweight/ugly and then I know she compromised.
beanie66f Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 F Had a talk about this and after some back and forth she admitted to me "I'm basically into gym rats but they tend to be mean and nasty so I decided to give someone who was not my physical type a chance and I thought it would grow over time" She said she loves my personality and that's why she thought she would try to see if it could grow over time. Either way feels bad but I'm gonna keep pushing forward and do what I have to do Hugs. The fact of the matter is she is telling you she is not physically attracted to you. She likes you though. I think you need to move on This is me. I am attracted to guys with broad shoulders chest etc. tall lean guys are not my type from a physical attraction perspective. My husband is the physical look that I like. I never really thought about it in depth until responding to your post ....but while I think mind attraction is really really important generally we need to be physically attracted to someone too. It sounds like she decided " you know what. He isn't the body type I normally go out with but Let me try and see if we fit intellectually and that other stuff doesn't matter" Focus on you. If you are getting healthy for yourself then rock on with your badass self. But do it for you. I would cut and run. I promise you there are women that prefer your body type and she has already confirmed you have the personality . Let her go and say "next"
mrldii Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 ...I like a good argument. most people tell their opinions based on their personal experience so I figure people who dont attract good looking people would say "I dont like muscular BB type" Chippendale dancers arent successful because of any other reason because theyre muscular and look good. not only are the women very attracted to them they throw themselves at them. and a lot of them are very big. most definitely bb sized. some smaller, but they dont look like a hs teenager who thinks getting ripped makes him look good when hes still skinny as a toothpick. I know from when I started working out, interest level in women has only increased. A "good argument" is dependent on actual facts, not emotional outbursts based on personal issues. Since - according to your argument - your personal experience dictates that any woman who is NOT attracted to a guy with a buff body is herself fat and/or ugly, how do you explain this contradictory personal experience, which blows your theory completely out of the water: Years ago, my best friend and I attended a Chippendale's performance. At the time she was performing in Penthouse's Vegas show, as two years prior, she'd been selected as a Pet of the Month and appeared as their centerfold. While onstage with the dancers, she heavily hit on one of the dancers. After the show, he came and found her, where she and I were having drinks at the bar and they continued their hot-and-heavy getting to know one another. As the evening wore down, he leaned over to her and let her know he would love to go back to the hotel room and do her all night long...IF she'd bring her friend. I declined, and no sex was had by anyone that night. Guess I was a big, ol', fat, ugly pig...you know, just the type buff guys are looking for, after a night of women throwing themselves at 'em. Your argument holds no water; most of the women I've known - whether they be shapely, petite, curvy, or any other type of body-style - are not attracted to BBs. Most cite the personality-type and the issues that go along with the life-style...which include steroid usage, anger issues, and severe self-image issues which require massive amounts of coddling to assuage. By the way, when participating in a discussion, including (especially?) while in an online discussion board, it's counter-productive to tell others (or perhaps, just women) "I don't care what you think..." Kinda takes the wheels off the little discussion wagon...after all, what good IS a wagon (discussion board) without its wheels (others' input)?
mrldii Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 OT: OP, I'm sorry she's just not that into you, for whatever reason...it sucks. Like others have stated, be glad that she did it earlier in the relationship (before you'd invested much more of yourself), rather than later. She may have been being extremely candid and truthful; she may have been going for an 'easy' way out. Who knows? Perhaps, in her own growth process, she decided to heed others' advice and try something different (i.e., "Since you are always attracted to the same type and it never seems to work out, why don't you try a different type?!?"), and you were the guinea pig. In any event, you deserve someone who's as into you, as you are them. Now, you're free to go find her. Best of luck to you...and congrats on the weight loss and keep up the good (and hard!) work!
rocketman122 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 A "good argument" is dependent on actual facts, not emotional outbursts based on personal issues. Since - according to your argument - your personal experience dictates that any woman who is NOT attracted to a guy with a buff body is herself fat and/or ugly, how do you explain this contradictory personal experience, which blows your theory completely out of the water: Years ago, my best friend and I attended a Chippendale's performance. At the time she was performing in Penthouse's Vegas show, as two years prior, she'd been selected as a Pet of the Month and appeared as their centerfold. While onstage with the dancers, she heavily hit on one of the dancers. After the show, he came and found her, where she and I were having drinks at the bar and they continued their hot-and-heavy getting to know one another. As the evening wore down, he leaned over to her and let her know he would love to go back to the hotel room and do her all night long...IF she'd bring her friend. I declined, and no sex was had by anyone that night. Guess I was a big, ol', fat, ugly pig...you know, just the type buff guys are looking for, after a night of women throwing themselves at 'em. Your argument holds no water; most of the women I've known - whether they be shapely, petite, curvy, or any other type of body-style - are not attracted to BBs. Most cite the personality-type and the issues that go along with the life-style...which include steroid usage, anger issues, and severe self-image issues which require massive amounts of coddling to assuage. By the way, when participating in a discussion, including (especially?) while in an online discussion board, it's counter-productive to tell others (or perhaps, just women) "I don't care what you think..." Kinda takes the wheels off the little discussion wagon...after all, what good IS a wagon (discussion board) without its wheels (others' input)? you may be right, but then again, I dont care what you say hahaha
rocketman122 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 OT: OP, I'm sorry she's just not that into you, for whatever reason...it sucks. Like others have stated, be glad that she did it earlier in the relationship (before you'd invested much more of yourself), rather than later. She may have been being extremely candid and truthful; she may have been going for an 'easy' way out. Who knows? Perhaps, in her own growth process, she decided to heed others' advice and try something different (i.e., "Since you are always attracted to the same type and it never seems to work out, why don't you try a different type?!?"), and you were the guinea pig. In any event, you deserve someone who's as into you, as you are them. Now, you're free to go find her. Best of luck to you...and congrats on the weight loss and keep up the good (and hard!) work! what weight loss? where did he mention weight loss. he has some handles and man boobs. he didnt say he was going through weight loss.
mrldii Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 you may be right, but then again, I dont care what you say hahaha Of course you don't. I'm a woman. Why should you care what women think? You do realize that repeatedly stating such [to women] leaves the impression you only care what men think about you and your situations, right?
mrldii Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 what weight loss? where did he mention weight loss. he has some handles and man boobs. he didnt say he was going through weight loss. Sure he did. It was right there in his OP: ...Yeah I know I'm out of shape, Ive been working on it, dropped 25 lbs in the last 4 months from 205 to 180... When participating in "good argument", it's a good idea to pay attention to the details; often, that's where the [advocating] devil hides.
lino Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 I thought women didn't care much about looks You were used as the 'good enough for now' guy OP. Any woman who used the phrase 'gym rat' would be sorted in the brainless pile for me.
Imported Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 OP - No chemistry in the physical department - it happens. And it will happen again in your lifetime. It will also happen that you will find physical chemistry with someone, and it will be mutual. It's really not personal, even if it feels that way. You can't help who you are attracted to. If the proverbial shoe were on the other foot, as in you weren't physically attracted to her, it doesn't mean no one else will be or that she is unattractive. It just means you aren't a fit. No it doesn't. Unless you're trying to be "not shallow" and "look beyond physical attraction and pretend beauty is from within". Always start off with how physically attracted a person looks. Worry about beauty from within when you are satisfied with physical attraction. Yes, personality and how you get along is important, but don't worry about that unless you want to see them naked and just seeing them turns you on sexually. You know who needs a lot "warming up" to do anything sexual with you? People that are not physically attracted to you. Stop putting the carriage before the horse. You know what you're physically attracted to .....instantly. Women are more likely to look past physical attraction. So they can marry the guy with $$$, live the life style, have a nice home, drive new cars every year, go on vacations to tropical islands and cheat with the cabana boy to be satisfied sexually because....they're not physically attracted to their fat husbands.
LookAtThisPOst Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 short guys seem to like tall women. its like an accomplishment for them that they were able to nab a tall girl. when I see a tall women with a short guy, or guy around her height, I cant help to laugh though. unless the girl is overweight/ugly and then I know she compromised. Height doesn't matter to me, they could be 6'3" to 4'10", as long as they have a nice figure..I am able to over look the height. Now, I don't puruse tall women exclusively though, even though I'm 5'8". I do get a kick out of how a 5'4" woman or even shorter, demanding in their profile "You must be 6 feet or taller to date me!" Sometimes they include their heels. I mean, if you're shorter than the man that's wants to ask you out, shouldn''t that be enough?
Tobin Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Felt led on, and hurt. Why would you date me if I wasn't your type? WTF? She told you the reasons she dated you, it's right there in your own post. Get over feeling led on and hurt, it was a month, she was giving it time to see how she felt, and she just wasn't going there. It's not her fault you let yourself go, it's good that you lost the weight but if you've still got manboobs and love handles then you've got more work to do. Problem with manboobs is they don't tend to evaporate once you've got 'em. To many women, it's just really unattractive, it's like the opposite of a guy with a built chest. Consider yourself fortunate she gave you an entire month to try to get past your physical drawbacks.
Author CFG Posted September 19, 2015 Author Posted September 19, 2015 She's just testing you. The more you act like it bothers you the more you are turning her off. Be confident a take control of the situation. Women like playing these stupid games. Here are a few links to help you. One is a free class, one is a cheap ebook, and the other is a free blog. I recommend the class, then the book. If you're gonna use the blog then focus on the videos page. Home | Seduction101 http://payhip.com/b/DuR6 http://payhip.com/b/DuR6 I read stuff like this everywhere....is this true or just bunk?
Tobin Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 I read stuff like this everywhere....is this true or just bunk? It's just bunk. The poster is a spammer. Disregard those posts.
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