Author logan415 Posted September 19, 2015 Author Posted September 19, 2015 You get attention because it's a ticket to the US. They'll say whatever you need to hear to get that green card. Won't mean that they mean it. But yeah... if you got that kind of money, do you, boo. True but not all. Your saying all do. How would you like if I said all American women are gold diggers just want to control men. You probably won't like that much right because its stereotyping. But your stereotyping. I know this lady for over a year. If she wanted a green card badly she would not be waiting for over a year. I think American women just want to put guys down like me so I can be under the control of American of the poison of feminism in this country. Sure there gold diggers there but I think we have bigger ones in the US.
mrldii Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 True but not all. Your saying all do. How would you like if I said all American women are gold diggers just want to control men. You probably won't like that much right because its stereotyping. But your stereotyping. I know this lady for over a year. If she wanted a green card badly she would not be waiting for over a year. I think American women just want to put guys down like me so I can be under the control of American of the poison of feminism in this country. Sure there gold diggers there but I think we have bigger ones in the US. For somebody who took offense to a perceived stereotype and generalization and wouldn't do it, you sure got real good at it, real quick, and with great manual dexterity. Jus' sayin'. Again and still, regardless of your reason (legitimate or not) for believing you'd fare better with off-shore women than home-grown ones, be like Nike, and Just Do It. You don't owe us American women any explanations, justifications, OR swan songs on your way out. Best of luck to you, OP... 4
Guyouthere Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 quite honestly,,, i do notice that most american women lack the quality that many guys want. It is the culture that cheapens relationships, glorifies self satisfaction and overall promotes selfishness. 2
mrldii Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 I'M an American woman and have been here all my life, save a 10-day vacation once in Mexico. I'VE never had any problems finding men; none of my friends have, either. Of course, we - being American women - gravitate towards men who appreciate and respond to the fact that we WANT to be with them, not that we HAVE to be with them (due to financial constraints, the ability to have children, parents pressuring us TO get married, etc.). 1
Author logan415 Posted September 19, 2015 Author Posted September 19, 2015 quite honestly,,, i do notice that most american women lack the quality that many guys want. It is the culture that cheapens relationships, glorifies self satisfaction and overall promotes selfishness. Very true. Its hard to find a woman who enjoys family values.
Woggle Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 American society in general has taken a turn for the worse and relationships are part of that but I don't think it could be blamed on just women. This past June I was in Bermuda and it was sort of a shock to see people talking and greeting each other in public and being social. I felt more relaxed there as opposed to the US where you have to always be on guard.
mrldii Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 If by "enjoys family values" some of you mean "will stay at home and cook and clean and tend to your children while you earn the money and go bar-hopping with the boys and chase other women and will still be waiting up for you when you stumble in at 3AM with the perfume of some other woman dripping off your clothes and various parts of your anatomy" you may be right. "Feminism in America" has ruined it and made it difficult to find the "Good-Hearted Woman" Hank Williams, Jr., paid tribute to in his very popular - and oft-played in bars - song. If by "enjoys family values" you mean "wants to be - and be with - a supportive partner in life's journey", hell, we're everywhere across the United States. You just have to log off your computer, open your front door, and step out in the real world and meet with us, day-to-day AND face-to-face, rather than saving your best stuff for each evening's 1-hour Skype session. Again and still, best of luck to you, OP... 6
Author logan415 Posted September 19, 2015 Author Posted September 19, 2015 If by "enjoys family values" some of you mean "will stay at home and cook and clean and tend to your children while you earn the money and go bar-hopping with the boys and chase other women and will still be waiting up for you when you stumble in at 3AM with the perfume of some other woman dripping off your clothes and various parts of your anatomy" you may be right. "Feminism in America" has ruined it and made it difficult to find the "Good-Hearted Woman" Hank Williams, Jr., paid tribute to in his very popular - and oft-played in bars - song. If by "enjoys family values" you mean "wants to be - and be with - a supportive partner in life's journey", hell, we're everywhere across the United States. You just have to log off your computer, open your front door, and step out in the real world and meet with us, day-to-day AND face-to-face, rather than saving your best stuff for each evening's 1-hour Skype session. Again and still, best of luck to you, OP... I want the latter half. I don't want a woman that stays home all day and prepare my dinner and do my laundry like I'm a 10 year old. I don't mind maybe a surprised home cook meal but I definitely do not want a house wife. The lady I'm talking is working on her degree and almost finished and she tells me she wants to work which is good.
mrldii Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 I want the latter half. I don't want a woman that stays home all day and prepare my dinner and do my laundry like I'm a 10 year old. I don't mind maybe a surprised home cook meal but I definitely do not want a house wife. The lady I'm talking is working on her degree and almost finished and she tells me she wants to work which is good. Oh. So, the woman you're currently interested in (in Europe) is enjoying the fruits of "feminism", by getting an education with the hopes of getting a job which, hopefully, will pay her the same amount of money as the man in the office/cubicle right next to hers, performing the same functions who was hired a month after her. She doesn't sound that different from female American "feminists"...so what's your issue with home-grown terroris...ooops, I mean, home-grown feminists? Here or abroad, either she'll be quitting her job to tend to the kids, or you'll be quitting your job to tend to the kids, or you'll (together) be hiring a nanny to care for/raise your kids. Same-o, same-o. 1
Author logan415 Posted September 19, 2015 Author Posted September 19, 2015 Oh. So, the woman you're currently interested in (in Europe) is enjoying the fruits of "feminism", by getting an education with the hopes of getting a job which, hopefully, will pay her the same amount of money as the man in the office/cubicle right next to hers, performing the same functions who was hired a month after her. She doesn't sound that different from female American "feminists"...so what's your issue with home-grown terroris...ooops, I mean, home-grown feminists? Here or abroad, either she'll be quitting her job to tend to the kids, or you'll be quitting your job to tend to the kids, or you'll (together) be hiring a nanny to care for/raise your kids. Same-o, same-o. Its because we share the same interest and she is interested in me and I could not find that here at least through online dating.
Maggie4 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Dating in the US is so hard... so I had given up. I also think it has to do with me being mixed with Indian, Latin and Irish and maybe I just plain weird. Do you feel your difficulty dating has to do with your mixed race? Do you prefer white women? Are Indian or Latin American women interested in you? Have you tried mixed race dating websites? Secondly, for online dating, if you just look around this site, you'll find other people having a difficult time online. OLD is rough for a lot of guys. It's not just you.
ExpatInItaly Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 That is true. However, a visa is required for any American to get into the country. The lady I'm talking told me how the Visa process is and she told me what I can expect when I do go there. I just want to visit her and go on some dates while I'm there. I feel that we connect pretty well online. I would suggest you do some research through your closest Embassy or Consulate of Belarus. A tourist visa can be obtained, but it is not exactly a simple process especially if you're being sponsored by a private citizen (and not a travel agency, for example) Belarus is widely considered to be the most Soviet-like state of the former USSR, which means that their doors are tricky to open for American and other western citizens. Do you know about the current political climate there? These may seem like irrelevant points, but all of this influences your ability to travel freely in the country. Just something to take into consideration when planning a trip there. Also, imagine you do connect in person. What happens then? You need to think of the long-term feasibility of international dating, if that's the avenue you want to pursue. Unless you want to relocate there (no easy feat) or you find a woman who wants to relocate to the US (an even bigger challenge) you have to consider whether just leaving it a few dates is what you really want.
Siquijor Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 quite honestly,,, i do notice that most american women lack the quality that many guys want. It is the culture that cheapens relationships, glorifies self satisfaction and overall promotes selfishness. In a nutshell, although it's western women as a whole, not just Americans.
Lois_Griffin Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 You get attention because it's a ticket to the US. They'll say whatever you need to hear to get that green card. Won't mean that they mean it. But yeah... if you got that kind of money, do you, boo. LOL. Bingo. She'll see him as 'rich' if he can afford to go over there just to go on a couple of dates. It'd be pretty naïve to assume she's not hunting for someone to financially take care of her. Ahhh youth. 1
Hopeful30 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 (edited) I think it's great you're open-minded and willing to date women of other mentalities, but having said that, I find it very difficult to find myself attracted to North American men, simply because I'm not North American (Eastern European myself) and the men are sooooo different - they think differently, they treat women differently, they dress differently etc.. Also, be weary. A lot of Eastern European women who "fall in love" online with Northern men are doing so just to find a way to leave their home countries to pursue a better life in Canada/States. Don't think this is a dream and is magical. Usually there are ulterior motives. Also bear in mind that Eastern European women, generally, want and look for different things that Northern women. You might do something you think is normal, but you could get scolded from your lady because that's not proper of a man (as per her culture). Since we are on that topic, I honestly believe it's easier to date someone from the same background. They just get you. Maybe that's why I've never hit it off with Northern men. I appear too demanding or picky to them, whereas men from my country of origin see that as normal. I find people of different cultures are very judged in the West because they are misunderstood. *sigh* Edited September 19, 2015 by Hopeful30
Author logan415 Posted September 19, 2015 Author Posted September 19, 2015 I think it's great you're open-minded and willing to date women of other mentalities, but having said that, I find it very difficult to find myself attracted to North American men, simply because I'm not North American (Eastern European myself) and the men are sooooo different - they think differently, they treat women differently, they dress differently etc.. Also, be weary. A lot of Eastern European women who "fall in love" online with Northern men are doing so just to find a way to leave their home countries to pursue a better life in Canada/States. Don't think this is a dream and is magical. Usually there are ulterior motives. Also bear in mind that Eastern European women, generally, want and look for different things that Northern women. You might do something you think is normal, but you could get scolded from your lady because that's not proper of a man (as per her culture). Since we are on that topic, I honestly believe it's easier to date someone from the same background. They just get you. Maybe that's why I've never hit it off with Northern men. I appear too demanding or picky to them, whereas men from my country of origin see that as normal. I find people of different cultures are very judged in the West because they are misunderstood. *sigh* Just because you don't connect well with North American men it does mean other Europeans won't. She there is culture differences but there is lot of culture differences here in the US. And the whole thing about her wanting to just in the USA. Again some are but quite of few are looking outside of their country for love. Did you know there is a shortage of men in Russia and Ukraine? That means the odds of woman there getting married is slim to none and life is short because of the drinking these men do. There is several men from US and other countries go and meet women there and had successful marriages.
Rejected Rosebud Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 It is the culture that cheapens relationships, glorifies self satisfaction and overall promotes selfishness. You think this cultural problem only affects the WOMEN in America though?? :confused: Or do you think that relationship cheapening, self satisfaction and selfishness is okay for men but bad for women?? Or what?? :confused:
Rejected Rosebud Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 In a nutshell, although it's western women as a whole, not just Americans. You shouldn't believe so much of what you read on the Internets. :rolleyes: I bet you have very little experience of "western women as a whole" upon which to base your opinion. That's ok though, like I said - go for the (feminist)European lady but I sincerely advise you to quit the ridiculous stereotyping, lots of us are beloved by men. We aren't suffering a bit if you decide to abandon us and our Sex in the City ways!! :laugh:
Author logan415 Posted September 19, 2015 Author Posted September 19, 2015 One thing I would never do is a "mail order bride" as I seen a documentary about them. There is difference meeting a woman than looking her up in some catalog like a item. Mail order bride is awful and its for sure once she claims residency she will leave.
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