MuddyFootprints Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 Would widely divided political beliefs be considered reasonable ground for divorce?
trippi1432 Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 Would widely divided political beliefs be considered reasonable ground for divorce? If you were running for President and your spouse didn't support you....maybe. TBH - The way politics are these days, to divorce over them is a bit silly, your politician of choice will change their underwear (and political position) tomorrow. 1
lollipopspot Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 More detail? Is this about core value differences that affect your daily life, or a philosophical point? Many things people can just agree to disagree. Some things are core values that play out in daily lives and they're very difficult to overlook. 1
Author MuddyFootprints Posted August 15, 2015 Author Posted August 15, 2015 Core values. Extreme left vs extreme right.
lollipopspot Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 How does that difference play out in your daily life?
d0nnivain Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 Maybe. But why did you marry in the 1st place? My parents were of opposite political parties. My husband & I are too. I had an LTR of 12 years with a member of a different party; we used to go vote holding hands so we made sure we cancelled each other out. I'm all for anybody who cares enough to show up on election day. I also enjoy a good debate. Since you are already married, I'd work on finding commonality before you headed to divorce court. 4
angel.eyes Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 Did they not know this before they got married? Isn't that the point of being engaged? Planning a wedding is time-consuming and all, so is finding the perfect wedding dress:p, but the whole point of an engagement is to suss out these details. There are lots of successful couples at opposite ends of the political divide. Two that come immediately to mind: Mary Matalin and James CarvilleArnold Schwarzenegger and Maria Shriver...well before the housekeeper fiasco imploded anyways
Author MuddyFootprints Posted August 15, 2015 Author Posted August 15, 2015 Almost 25 years married. We had progressive conservatives then. 1
Author MuddyFootprints Posted August 15, 2015 Author Posted August 15, 2015 Is this about sex? Not yet. Lol
angel.eyes Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 I thought it was a general question. I hadn't realized it was about your situation. Sorry. What's a progressive conservative? Did one of you change?
angel.eyes Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 Okay, I googled it. You must be in Canada. 1
angel.eyes Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 Who changed? How is it impacting your relationship? If it helps, I tend to have very different political views than some of the guys I've dated...which comes as a huge surprise to them. But it's never impacted our ability to discuss issues in depth or get along. I can respect their misguided confusion!:laugh: Obviously I'm kidding with that comment! I focus on understanding how they arrived at their views, and they mine, and in subsequent conversations, we discuss our viewpoints on an issue while maintaining a healthy respect for each other's perspective. Do you think you can get to a place where you are accepting that you are individuals who won't always agree on everything? It seems a little sad to end a marriage over evolving viewpoints. 2
casey.lives Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 Protecting the home-front, safeguarding/maximizing resources and promoting family values. I can't see how my political views can be bad for my relationship but i don't often run into people who don't agree with me. So.. um.
angel.eyes Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 Of course. But the devil is in the details. How to go about doing those things are where the disagreements most commonly occur. 2
Author MuddyFootprints Posted August 15, 2015 Author Posted August 15, 2015 Who changed? How is it impacting your relationship? If it helps, I tend to have very different political views than some of the guys I've dated...which comes as a huge surprise to them. But it's never impacted our ability to discuss issues in depth or get along. I can respect their misguided confusion!:laugh: Obviously I'm kidding with that comment! I focus on understanding how they arrived at their views, and they mine, and in subsequent conversations, we discuss our viewpoints on an issue while maintaining a healthy respect for each other's perspective. Do you think you can get to a place where you are accepting that you are individuals who won't always agree on everything? It seems a little sad to end a marriage over evolving viewpoints. The thing is, our government dictates every aspect of our lives. Discussion is one thing. Application is something else completely.
cocorico Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 Would widely divided political beliefs be considered reasonable ground for divorce? Depends where. In my home country, all divorce is no fault, based on "irreconcilable differences". This would certainly qualify. In the UK, no fault D takes up to five years, so I guess you could make it valid if you really were prepared to work at it and wait it out. Or you could go for a "fault" D based on "unreasonable behaviour" if there was any of that associated with the divergent beliefs. 1
autumnnight Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 It would depend on how obnoxious and superior they were about it. I can rationally disagree with pretty much any rational person. They make it personal and insulting, that's a problem. 1
Justanaverageguy Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) Core values. Extreme left vs extreme right. I don't think it could ever get to divorce - Its grounds for never getting married though. I require intelligence in any partner I date and anyone who takes an "extreme" view on either side of politics (or the extreme end of any field of thought) is in my opinion not an intelligent person. Life is yin and yang. You need balance from both sides to make a functioning whole in every facet of life. The further you go to the extreme end of any ideal or philosophy the more it starts looking exactly like the opposite extreme you are opposing. It also explains why it is quite easy to flip between the two Edited August 17, 2015 by Justanaverageguy 1
Author MuddyFootprints Posted August 18, 2015 Author Posted August 18, 2015 Admittedly, I tend to be a little too passionate about politics. We aren't considering divorce, he had me pose the question here following a particularly lively discussion about past campaign donations. We are both fairly knowledgeable and experienced politically. He tends to like playing the game and I don't!
salparadise Posted August 18, 2015 Posted August 18, 2015 Tea Party North. Which one of you is the Tea Party fruitcake? Yea, I'd say that's grounds for divorce pretty much anywhere. I don't date extremists on either side, but extreme conservatism is the ultimate deal breaker... or anybody who thinks and talks politics day in day out. Life is too short. 2
Els Posted August 18, 2015 Posted August 18, 2015 If you were literally extreme left and extreme right, how did you not find this to be a problem early in the relationship? Politics haven't changed THAT much. Honestly, I know lots of couples who don't share similar political views. But that is because most of the people I know are moderates (both the lefties and righties). Two extremists at different poles would definitely have trouble working things out I would think, but these people tend to not get married to each other in the first place. 1
Author MuddyFootprints Posted August 19, 2015 Author Posted August 19, 2015 Here, our right has changed. Significantly.
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