Gloria25 Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 My friend recently went on a date with a woman who was actually wearing a shirt that said proud misandrist. At least she was showing her true colors right from the start I guess Are you serious? I mean, I have a "This is what a feminist looks like" T-shirt I bought years ago when I was a raging feminazi, but "misandrist" on a T-shirt? Gee, I guess the women's movement really could care less what people perceive them to be now a days?
HereNorThere Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 do you not believe in objective morality? No, no I do not. I believe our morals are based on our own sense of empathy and there's no true or absolute standard that exists in the Universe. Without digging too deep, my belief is based upon my atheism and world view.
Author LoveRefreshed Posted August 9, 2015 Author Posted August 9, 2015 Try and play along, see if she'll go out with you and come back and write about it. It should be interesting. Message sent. I might exude to much testosterone to score a date. I thought I was pretty witty. On the scale of things, she's not super 'out of my league' but honestly, I do better with girls that are. Single mothers and less attractive women run rampant through OLD, and for some reason, those women never respond to me. Let's see 1
Author LoveRefreshed Posted August 9, 2015 Author Posted August 9, 2015 What did you write? WHAT UP TOOTS? I THINK YOU SO FINE. Nah, she mentioned some **** about quantifying self. So I picked up on that and discussed the scientist Duncan MacDougall who talked about the weight of the human soul (apparently we lose 21 grams of mass right after death, or so he said, and that was the loss of the human soul)... some intellectual **** up on there, she seemed to be a thinker. Oh and a short compliment on her taste in music. 1
jay1983 Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 WHAT UP TOOTS? I THINK YOU SO FINE. Nah, she mentioned some **** about quantifying self. So I picked up on that and discussed the scientist Duncan MacDougall who talked about the weight of the human soul (apparently we lose 21 grams of mass right after death, or so he said, and that was the loss of the human soul)... some intellectual **** up on there, she seemed to be a thinker. Yeah, that 21 grams thing was debunked, I forgot how or who. Good stuff though.
guest569 Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) Most intelligent women would avoid sexists anyway. If you think that is some hippy, new age thing to say well you're probably in 1955. Also I would probably be a bit hesitant about people who it strong political or religious views all over their dating profile, it's not the place for it. Edited August 9, 2015 by smiley1 1
WomenWubber Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 Some people just like to hear themselves talk. 1
mrldii Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 To be fair there are a lot of misandists who claim the feminist label. Then, those people also don't know what they're talking about. I'm glad you're not one of those people, and that you're someone who understands that the two terms are mutually-exclusive.
mrldii Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 incorrect. see post #2. feminists are misandrists. Break out a dictionary and you will realize how bastardizing the English language doesn't turn an erroneous statement into a factual one. Empirically-speaking, I am a feminist and I am NOT a misandrist...and not just because I am literate and know the definition of words. 2
Author LoveRefreshed Posted August 9, 2015 Author Posted August 9, 2015 ruh roh. Misandry, Feminism and Equalism. Look at another parallel.. no one is complaining about the name 'gay rights movement' even though they are also just fighting for equality. It's because they are the marginalized minority striving for equality. The thing is, is that I think that misandrists fail to realize that men are not the problem. Most men don't actively seek to push women down and put them in their place. It strives from societal pressures that are ingrained into both men and women, generation after generation. A misandrist might not realize that a woman can be sexists against other women just as easy as a guy can. Women participate in slut shaming all the time, for instance. Feminist, true ones, I dare say are enlightened to the fact that men and women are allies in the struggle against breaking societal bondage. At least that's my take on it. I didn't come here to start this debate, but, fun topic anyway, so I say discuss on. I was more or less just wondering if women who are overtly feminist in their profile end up being man hating super beasts of which I should avoid (as I have been) or if I should give them an honest shot. I don't like dealing with overly aggressive feminists, I am not a perfect feminists and I have my own battles to overcome and don't care to be 'put in my place' at her discretion.
mrldii Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 ...Feminist, true ones, I dare say are enlightened to the fact that men and women are allies in the struggle against breaking societal bondage... I agree. One of the societal binds-that-tie that has prevented equality of the sexes is the extreme imbalance of male voices when compared to women's voices in positions of power, in corporate positions as well as elected ones, and in both the private and public sectors. Studies continue to show that companies who have the highest number of women on their Boards (NOT necessarily MORE women than men) do better financially. Female Board Members Are Good for Business - NYTimes.com It's very refreshing to hear the number of male feminists who are willing to consider a female candidate for President, simply based on her ideas of governance. Perhaps we'll soon see if the success of Corporate profits can be translated into the Office of the President and the U.S. can experience similar financial gains. 228 years at the helm is long enough; let us take a crack at it for a bit. Really, all things considered...it's not like we could do much worse, yanno?
mrldii Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 Yet...I'm still expected to pay...every time. Date a different type of woman. This board is filled with women who do not expect a man to pay or don't like a man to pay. The same ratios translate into the real world, too. Or, keep doing the same thing and expect a different result. 3
lollipopspot Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 Yet...I'm still expected to pay...every time. Then stop paying and stop complaining about it. It's your choice, no one else's. 3
HereNorThere Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 Don't confuse women's civil rights with courtship norms and rituals. They're just two completely different things. Your right to education, voting, etc. is not on the same level as paying for dinner. You might think a little different about women's civil rights if your sister was raped and you had to take her out and the streets and "honor kill" her. You might feel different if the women you love weren't able to leave their home without their face covered. You wouldn't like it if your sister's husband could beat her mercilessly with no penalty. If they were denied access to education, voting, their right to choose what happens to their own body, etc. etc. You guys want to sit around and complain because women are complicated and there's no special trick to having one under your control. You get mad when you strike out time and time again and instead of learning the game, accepting how it works, accepting that's it's not always logical, you build resent and start hating on them. For me, I'm a man. My gender conquered the continents, the sea and sent us into outer space. We fought bears for food, provided for our families, built the world we have today and made living better for future generations. I'm not threatened by any woman or worried that she's going to end up with some sort of advantage that I don't have. If women want to vote, drive cars, sleep with whomever they chose, that's fine by me. If they want to go on the front lines or into the coal mines (things I won't even do), I'm fine with that also. U mad, bro? cause I think u mad. http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/trollpasta/images/d/db/U-mad-bro.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140610192555 3
autumnnight Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 Feminist, true ones, I dare say are enlightened to the fact that men and women are allies in the struggle against breaking societal bondage. At least that's my take on it. I love this. Oh, and Websters Dictionary was instituted by NOAH Webster....who I am pretty sure was a man.
jay1983 Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 Hey dude, does she have a pic in a certain pose that says brownie points if you guess the reference?
Author LoveRefreshed Posted August 10, 2015 Author Posted August 10, 2015 ha, no. Are you looking for the profile?
BlueIris Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 Everybody has to sort through some crazies if you’re back in the dating pool or doing OLD. Talk on the phone first. Talk substantively rather than trying to be appealing. I talked to an OLD guy once who was so innocuous on paper- lots of education, professional job, widowed, three daughters. He told me about the phone app he was developing to track how many drinks women in a bar had consumed, and then a light would go off when a given woman was “sufficiently” inebriated. Ooh, yeah… that's a real gem. I’ve got a crummy poker face so I’m glad that was a phone conversation. If excessive feminist comments are your particular pet peeve, and no matter what your pet peeve is, talk first before going to meet someone. 1
fitnessfan365 Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 I will admit, I was guilty of assuming that all feminists are man hating ball busters. So the term used to make me REALLY uneasy. However, as I've gotten way more dating experience over the years, I'm starting to appreciate feminists a lot more. I've met many who are extremely feminine in demeanor and appearance, very seductive, nurturing. and submissive in the bedroom. The only difference is that they actually express opinions, suggest date ideas, and chip in financially. So they're fun to talk to, don't make you feel like an entertainment director, and don't take advantage of you w-money. Why is that a bad thing?
wb1988 Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 the champions of feminism don't forget that it is, indeed about equality. That sexism can go both ways (I have seen it) and there remain things unfair with our current laws (I almost got kicked out of grad school on the lie of a woman that said I sexual harassed her. It costs me thousands of dollars to prove my innocence. It's completely contrary to our 'innocent until proven guilty' ideology in the US. So I am weary of self-proclaimed feminists and don't want to date the crazy ones. It isn't about equality, that's just something that say to get away with ****. Also I know a guy that got forced to resign after a sexual harassment complaint. What did he do you ask? He bought this girl a really expensive gift, can you imagine that ****, getting fired from the station for buying a female an expensive gift? Super feminist HR. They even admitted that it was BS but they didn't want to deal with the complaint and would rather just have him leave. Oh. I assume most normal, healthy, well-adjusted adults are feminists, since "a feminist" = "a person who believes in the social, political, and economic equality of the sexes", but may I'm just naive... ...or, just engaging in a little humansplaining. You are half right. Most normal people are humanitarians and are all for gender equality. The part where you were wrong was saying that feminist = person for equality.... blah blah. think about it, if it really was about equality then why does it start with "femini". I have a "This is what a feminist looks like" T-shirt Oh no, please tell me you're not a fat chick.
mrldii Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 ... You are half right. Most normal people are humanitarians and are all for gender equality. The part where you were wrong was saying that feminist = person for equality.... blah blah. think about it, if it really was about equality then why does it start with "femini"... Nahhhh...I'm not "half right", half wrong, or any percentage of right or wrong; that's not my definition of the word...it's Mr. Merriam's and Mr. Webster's. You'll have to take it up with them. It's spelled the way it is because "equalism" was already taken and means something all-encompassing and includes racism, which is another focused study of inequality. 2
HereNorThere Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 There may be some women who have been convinced by the Internet that they aren't "feminists" but I call BS. Wait until someone comes along and tells them they can't go to school, leave the house uncovered and without a male relative, that they're being auctioned off to the neighbor for some livestock and we'll see who isn't a feminist. 3
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