Aggressive Comments; Possible Misandry; OLD

[LoveRefreshed]

More for the guys I guess- but sure, ladies, feel free to jump in. I know you will.

 

 

I am quite liberal and tend to match a lot with women who have heavy feminist comments in their profile. I wouldn't mind it if it was in moderation, nor do I think it really needs to be put their. I assume most women are indeed feminists, but maybe I just naïve.

 

 

Have you guys gone out on dates with these women and have them turn out to be normal? I never write to them because I'm afraid their going to be condescending man haters. For instance, one girls profile-

 

 

She was really good at mansplaining mansplaining... I kinda want to mansplain to her that you have to be a dude to mansplain. Clearly. God, I hate that word. I want to punch people who use it.

 

Anyway, this specific profile I won't message for several reasons, but generally I avoid these ultra feminist ones. Do you think I am needlessly dodging matches?

[katiegrl]

More for the guys I guess- but sure, ladies, feel free to jump in. I know you will.

 

 

I am quite liberal and tend to match a lot with women who have heavy feminist comments in their profile. I wouldn't mind it if it was in moderation, nor do I think it really needs to be put their. I assume most women are indeed feminists, but maybe I just naïve.

 

 

Have you guys gone out on dates with these women and have them turn out to be normal? I never write to them because I'm afraid their going to be condescending man haters. For instance, one girls profile-

 

 

She was really good at mansplaining mansplaining... I kinda want to mansplain to her that you have to be a dude to mansplain. Clearly. God, I hate that word. I want to punch people who use it.

 

Anyway, this specific profile I won't message for several reasons, but generally I avoid these ultra feminist ones. Do you think I am needlessly dodging matches?

 

What is "mansplaining"? Lol

[Woggle]

My friend recently went on a date with a woman who was actually wearing a shirt that said proud misandrist. At least she was showing her true colors right from the start I guess

[HereNorThere]

What is "mansplaining"? Lol

 

verb

 

informal

 

(of a man) explain (something) to someone, typically a woman, in a manner regarded as condescending or patronizing.

 

"I'm listening to a guy mansplain economics to his wife"

 

Now run along sweetheart, the men are talking. J/k

[LoveRefreshed]

Mansplaining is suppose to mean when a man explains something to a woman in a condescending or patronizing way.

 

However, basically I see it used any time a man disagrees with a super fem and is trying to articulate his point of view.

[LoveRefreshed]

@Mongo

 

 

I don't mind calling it feminism, just so long as the champions of feminism don't forget that it is, indeed about equality.

 

That sexism can go both ways (I have seen it) and there remain things unfair with our current laws (I almost got kicked out of grad school on the lie of a woman that said I sexual harassed her. It costs me thousands of dollars to prove my innocence. It's completely contrary to our 'innocent until proven guilty' ideology in the US.

 

 

So I am weary of self-proclaimed feminists and don't want to date the crazy ones.

[katiegrl]

Mansplaining is suppose to mean when a man explains something to a woman in a condescending or patronizing way.

 

However, basically I see it used any time a man disagrees with a super fem and is trying to articulate his point of view.

 

Thanks.

 

What about when a man proceeds to *explain* to a woman how SHE actually feels/thinks about any given topic, which suggests HE knows better than SHE what SHE is feeling and what SHE thinks about said topic?

 

Mansplaining?

[mrldii]

... I assume most women are indeed feminists, but maybe I just naïve...

 

Oh. I assume most normal, healthy, well-adjusted adults are feminists, since "a feminist" = "a person who believes in the social, political, and economic equality of the sexes", but may I'm just naive...

 

...or, just engaging in a little humansplaining.

[mrldii]

Thanks.

 

What about when a man proceeds to *explain* to a woman how SHE actually feels/thinks about any given topic, which suggests HE knows better than SHE what SHE is feeling and what SHE thinks about said topic?

 

Mansplaining?

 

I believe that's called "dicktating".

 

 

I could be wrong though. I probably am. No, I most assuredly am.

 

 

 

 

I'm one of those dreaded "feminists". YOU know the type.

[LoveRefreshed]

Yes Katie, that is also a good example.

 

 

And things I agree with, mrldii. I assume in this day, most younger generation folk (30ish and younger) are transitioning to a less sexist ideology (at least overtly), but knowing some men, they are still covertly sexist.

 

 

I assume most men do things without realizing what they are doing without the intentions of being sexists, so I think a calm discussion of it is better than using pejoratives and annoying words.

 

 

I.e. talking over women when discussing things. Women refer to this as sexism. Sometimes sexists I guess, but sometimes just egotistical men. Men do this to other men all the time.

[katiegrl]

I believe that's called "dicktating".

 

 

I could be wrong though. I probably am. No, I most assuredly am.

 

 

 

 

I'm one of those dreaded "feminists". YOU know the type.

 

LOL @ *dicktating"!

 

And no I think you may be right!

[LoveRefreshed]

I believe that's called "dicktating".

 

 

I could be wrong though. I probably am. No, I most assuredly am.

 

 

 

 

I'm one of those dreaded "feminists". YOU know the type.

 

Based on your posts, you're the type I'd like.

[mrldii]

OP (and others), do you have any real-world (or made-up, if you have to) examples of these "excessive femanist comments" to whence you refer?

 

I mean, are we talking, "Death to all men as all men are pigs" manifesto-type-stylings,

 

or "While I believe kittens are soft and cuddly, I also have thoughts on the gold standard" manifesto-type-stylings?

[HereNorThere]

A lot of men have a problem realizing that feminism at its core is a good thing. Is it perfect? Nah, not even close, but we should always champion our fellow human beings to have equal rights.

 

Do we sometimes over compensate and give people special rights? Sure, nothing is perfect. Do some women use feminism to forward their own agenda, sure. Everything can be twisted and bastardized. That doesn't mean that at its core aren't some really good things. Women should have a right to make decisions about their body, the right to vote, etc. and that's really what the women's civil rights movement is about.

 

Some people will always mess up a good thing, always. We can't let them get us off track and derail the whole thing.

[LoveRefreshed]

Well I gave one. There was more in it about feminism too. things about fighting misogyny one dick at a time.

 

 

I don't like or save profiles that are like this, but if you want, I can go troll OKC looking for some.

[casey.lives]

i don't think men and woman are so different but i do think they are meant to do different things

[HereNorThere]

No one is really meant to do anything. It's 2015 and we're at a point in our evolution where we do actually have a choice. This is our reality and we can make our rules. No one should be confined to some sort of specific behaviors because they have to conform to their social gender role.

 

There can be no male without female and and vice versa. We are an incomplete organism without each other. The truth is that our similarities far outweigh our differences. We're written in the same language, the same genetic code, with the same chemicals transmitting from one cell to another to make our consciousness. When a man looks down on a woman, he's looking down on himself, because he is incomplete without her.

[Woggle]

I think a lot of men see the misandrists who go around saying that all men are pigs and how they are bathing in male tears and that is what their impression of feminism is. Just like with most things the loudest and most extreme voices get noticed.

[LoveRefreshed]

True that.

 

I took a course in college called 'women in science' and it really addressed a lot of issues. I am totally disillusioned and am a feminist, truly. That is why I avoid these squeaky cogs, but was just wondering if it is a hrmm.. intimidating front put on to scare away true misogynists, or if they are going to be unhinged.

[mrldii]

I think a lot of men see the misandrists who go around saying that all men are pigs and how they are bathing in male tears and that is what their impression of feminism is...

 

 

Oh, well then they just don't know what they're talking about.

 

"A misandrist" = "a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against men".

 

"A feminist" = "a person who believes in the social, political, and economic equality of the sexes".

 

Ergo, according to the definitions, "a misandrist" can not be "a feminist"; the terms are mutually-exclusive and can not be interchanged.

 

 

Thank God we got that cleared up; no doubt, She is most pleased that no intelligent, English-speaking person will ever make that mistake, again!!!

 

 

[rocketman122]

I can smell feministos a mile away. they disgust me.

 

I dont believe male and female are equal. I believe everyone has their strong points and we complement one another. I hate women who compete with men. "I can do it all and dont need you attitude". I can do it but I dont feel I dont need her. just disgusting.

 

I also stay far away from those who write any of the words dominant/independent/opinionated/assertive

 

sure a person can be those things. but writing it means they are strong points in you. im also those things but I dont write it. when a woman writes it specifically in her profile it says to me that "if we get along great but I can do without you as well. I dont need you" and I dont have that mindset. I believe "if we dont get along, lets talk and work things out because I want you in my life" its a one foot in the door attitude.

 

I stay far far away.

[Woggle]

Oh, well then they just don't know what they're talking about.

 

"A misandrist" = "a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against men".

 

"A feminist" = "a person who believes in the social, political, and economic equality of the sexes".

 

Ergo, according to the definitions, "a misandrist" can not be "a feminist"; the terms are mutually-exclusive and can not be interchanged.

 

 

Thank God we got that cleared up; no doubt, She is most pleased that no intelligent, English-speaking person will ever make that mistake, again!!!

 

 

 

To be fair there are a lot of misandists who claim the feminist label.

[HereNorThere]

i smell new age bs.

 

 

 

do you not believe in objective morality? next youre gonna say we are all "one" or something.

 

we might all have the same awareness, but man and woman are not same. there are objective roles.

 

youre just pandering to get likes from women. meditate with those crystals some more...

 

 

I'm not pandering to anything. In fact, I'm often accused of being misogynistic because I do point out that women and men have differences, especially when it comes to the way we process emotions and the way society treats each of us. This includes sometimes giving women the advantage or overcompensating instead of things being "equal" as we often hear.

 

Theres nothing new age about me. I speak strictly from a staunch atheistic, science minded point of view. When I say we have more similarities than we do differences, I speak strictly from a scientific point of view. We share upwards of 98% of our DNA. We require the same fuel to fuel the chemical reactions that power our bodies processes. We share virtually all the same organs, can transplant from one to another, react to the same prescription drugs, share most of the same illnesses, etc. etc. There's no denying we are cut from the same cloth. What maka s a human a human is there brain and our brains aren't much different. We both capacity for things greater than any other organism we have come across in Universe. I have yet to see a man do something with his brain that no women could ever do.

 

When I say you are in incomplete organism, I mean from that from a strictly scientific point of view as well. An organism's only real function that we clearly see is reproduction. We eat sleep, sleep, breathe, etc and we have sex, reproduce, live long enough to watch our spawn reproduce and then we die. This is clearly a biological life pattern most people naturally seek out. When you can't reproduce, you are not a complete organism.

 

Women can be some cruel, cold bitter people, just the same as I know a lot of males can be. I know they are sometimes given advantages I don't have and sometimes can be confusing, irrational, illogical, etc. However, when you dehumanize them, overgeneralize and put them all into the same box, treat them as less than men, you're no better than what the worst woman has ever done to you. Just the same as men, they are not all the same. They are also your mother, your sister, your best friend, your doctor, etc. etc.

 

That doesn't mean I haven't come across some cold, cold women or been put in some unfair situations because of them. The difference is that I know we all have own own struggle. Sure, women have more choices when it come to dating, but they also have to deal with the fact that a lot of men fake interest for sex and break their hearts. Sure, they may certain social advantages, but a lot of them have to deal with not being taken as seriously. There's advantages and disadvantages to being both gender. I seriously wouldn't want to have a vagina... Ugh, that seems like a lot of hard work. Too much maintenance on those things. I wouldn't want to get pregnant. Oh, and certainly wouldn't want to have to date a bunch of jerk off immature dudes who are pissed because they can't control the Universe or women and what they attracted to. I can go on and on, but I personally like being a guy.

[jay1983]

Well I gave one. There was more in it about feminism too. things about fighting misogyny one dick at a time.

 

 

I don't like or save profiles that are like this, but if you want, I can go troll OKC looking for some.

 

Try and play along, see if she'll go out with you and come back and write about it. It should be interesting.

[Gloria25]

heh. my favorite one is "feminism is about equality". then i ask "really? then why is it called feminism and not equalism?"

 

steer clear of those women at all costs.

 

Excellent point ^^ of all my anti-femenazism points, this one is a very good one

 

Oh, and to answer your question? It's "feminism" instead of "equalisim" cuz it's not about equality of the sexes, it's about women putting their heels on the necks of men.