Art_Critic Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 OLD is heavily tilted against men because of the huge male to female ratio. No is isn't... it is skewed because as men we are supposed to pursue.. it is no different than in face to face meeting women.. the women don't just come up to you and give you their digits, you have to turn their head.. win them over with some good conversation, show them you humor and show them they will have a good time on a date with you and you will get those digits and a date with that woman. If you don't show a woman she will have a good time on a date with you you will never get a chance to go out.. It is up to you as the man.. like it or not to court a woman and show your best side to her. Many guys when doing OLD dating are missing the point of courting.. they think reading some girls profile and sending an email that says.. what's up or some shiot will get a reply... You have to get a woman's attention to get a reply.. so show them how fun of a guy you are and you will have 20 emails a day in your inbox.. or 20 replies rather... 2
Maleficent Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 (edited) <editorial content redacted> [E]ntitlement stinks guys! No one owes you an answer to an awkward message on OLD and no one owes you a coffee date. Edited July 26, 2015 by a LoveShack.org Moderator Topical content retained. 1
jay1983 Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 I really really really think she chickened out. A lot of girls online are too scared to actually meet someone from the internet.
Maleficent Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 No way! What dating site are you talking about? Because i use a popular one- match- and despite of being attractive i only get about 20 messages a day. 500 messages on the first day for an average girl is a massive exageration! Yes, it is a numbers game and yes, not all your messages get responses.and yes, there are creeps on both sides. I got flaked on by a guy just the other day. I turned up for dates where the guy was 10 cm shorter, 30 kg heavier and 10 years older than he claimed to be online. ( i walked out). Anyway, there are many normal caring ladies who use OLD too, and besides, if you truly believe that all women on OLD are unhinged or egoistic then why are you on it? It is not for everyone, but i know plenty of average looking guys who met their other half on OLD so it does work Oh hell, once I started chatting with a guy who posted pictures of someone else on his profile. It was some soccer player who didn't even looked like him. Hell the soccer player was white and the guy was indian...
Maleficent Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 I really really really think she chickened out. A lot of girls online are too scared to actually meet someone from the internet. That and sometimes the conversations we had with the guy was not enough to spark enough interest to get out of the house that day (that being said, just send a quick text to cancel FFS lol)
Maleficent Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 ha! only 20 messages! id go bananas if i got 20 messages in one day. noguys are getting that can tell ya. Why is it such a great injustice to men that women receive more message on OLD? I'm curious.
Maleficent Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 creep and loser are terms you throw around very subjectively...at least people will talk to you and give you some sort of attention...actually show up to meet you and give you the time of day. a lot of men lie because they trying to make their perceived value higher to women. after all money and status matters. when i was in college i would tell girls the truth, that i was a student and an entrepreneur. their eyes light up "ohh you own a business?". well yes i run an ebay store. i make pretty good income....never heard from em again. dont act like it doesnt matter. here is a snapshot of when i ran the experiment. the fake account was not up long, maybe a few days...my real account had been up for like 5 years... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/pyro98/THETRUTH.jpg its funny...most of the dudes who messaged the fake girl said things like, youre very pretty, hey how are you, hows your day going, mostly nice greetings. very few said anything perverted. no i didnt reply to any of them. if all you seriously attract is scumbags and liars i dont know what your problem is lol. theres gotta be somebody worth talking to in there. RE bolded: Honesty is also important. So by lying to make yourself more 'valuable' you are instantly discrediting yourself when the truth is revealed. And you know, part of the reason why women don't answer messages on OLD is probably because we've all heard men mention they've send hundreds of messages in a week without getting a response. To us, this means that men are just copy-pasting the same 'hi how are you message' to 100 other girls. Not much of an incentive to answer, is it? edit: for the record, I don't do OLD...
jay1983 Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 That and sometimes the conversations we had with the guy was not enough to spark enough interest to get out of the house that day (that being said, just send a quick text to cancel FFS lol) No no no you don't know what you're talking about. It's because............ Nah I'm just screwing with you. Lol 1
Maleficent Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 No no no you don't know what you're talking about. It's because............ Nah I'm just screwing with you. Lol 1
wb1988 Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 (edited) Reasons why girls flake on the first date/meetup via OLD: 1. She couldn't be bothered to doll up for you. Many girls need to dress up nice and put lots of makeup when they leave the house for even a moment. If they're not really into going out then they'd rather just stay home. It's the same reason why once they leave the house they tend to stay out longer as they put in the effort for going out and would not want to 'waste' it. 2. Some girls just don't like saying no both verbally or even on text. But of course her actions would have said no. 3. Someone else came along that she considers a better option. The other guy might have even sprung up before she said yes to you and you were a backup. 4. Too shy to just meet up a stranger for the purpose of romance. There is a good chance that even if you chatted with her for weeks she still wouldn't have seen you. 5. She's either not quite the same girl on her profile or she thinks that you think she's a lot better looking than she really is. After all, all girls know that seeing girl IRL is very different to looking a pics of her just showing a closeup of her face & boobs pushed up, or the slimming pose with the arm bent out. I'm sure you've noticed that any profile that doesn't have at least 1 body pic almost guarantees that the person is a fatty. 6. She was only looking for an ego boost. It's similar when us guys ask & get a girls number knowing that we'll never call her. Edited July 26, 2015 by wb1988
DaisyBug Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 And you know, part of the reason why women don't answer messages on OLD is probably because we've all heard men mention they've send hundreds of messages in a week without getting a response. To us, this means that men are just copy-pasting the same 'hi how are you message' to 100 other girls. Not much of an incentive to answer, is it? I've had a few profiles on OLD, but only without a picture, and have never pursued anything from it (free sites only) because I mostly just wanted to lurk. Sometimes, all you get is a message where the subject says "hi" or whatever, and that's it. What's funny is when you get the same exact message twice, some time apart, or they comment on you having a nice picture when you don't have one up... Half the time it doesn't even sound like they read your profile!
Maleficent Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 I've had a few profiles on OLD, but only without a picture, and have never pursued anything from it (free sites only) because I mostly just wanted to lurk. Sometimes, all you get is a message where the subject says "hi" or whatever, and that's it. What's funny is when you get the same exact message twice, some time apart, or they comment on you having a nice picture when you don't have one up... Half the time it doesn't even sound like they read your profile! Cool story. And thanks for adding to people's frustrations with OLD with yet another fake profile...
jay1983 Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 Cool story. And thanks for adding to people's frustrations with OLD with yet another fake profile... Huh?
DaisyBug Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 Cool story. And thanks for adding to people's frustrations with OLD with yet another fake profile... Not fake, just no photo. Not many guys respond to a woman with no photo, which is how I like it. I didn't join to get picked up on, but to see what it's like out there, and if I saw someone I liked I would have joined.
katiegrl Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 (edited) Huh? jay, read wb's post above (no. 115) listing the reasons why women flake, don't respond, etc. I love DaisyBug, but she just added to his list: "Women who create a profile with no intention of meeting, they are only there to lurk." DB, if I misinterpreted, my apologies, but that is how I read your post. Which is okay BTW, if lurking is all you want to do. But I can see how it might be frustrating for the guys who message you and want to chat with and meet you. Edited July 26, 2015 by katiegrl
Gaeta Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 creep and loser are terms you throw around very subjectively...at least people will talk to you and give you some sort of attention...actually show up to meet you and give you the time of day. a lot of men lie because they trying to make their perceived value higher to women. after all money and status matters. when i was in college i would tell girls the truth, that i was a student and an entrepreneur. their eyes light up "ohh you own a business?". well yes i run an ebay store. i make pretty good income....never heard from em again. dont act like it doesnt matter. here is a snapshot of when i ran the experiment. the fake account was not up long, maybe a few days...my real account had been up for like 5 years... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/pyro98/THETRUTH.jpg its funny...most of the dudes who messaged the fake girl said things like, youre very pretty, hey how are you, hows your day going, mostly nice greetings. very few said anything perverted. no i didnt reply to any of them. if all you seriously attract is scumbags and liars i dont know what your problem is lol. theres gotta be somebody worth talking to in there. 175 messages is far from the 500 you were claiming. If your profile has been up for 5 years maybe it's time you change it a little eh!!! If you've let your profile visible for 5 years you just shot yourself in the foot, you've over exposed yourself. Women don't see your profile anymore. You're like one of those annoying ads on the left side no one looks at. It's good to hide your profile for extended periods of time, weeks or months at a time. Also you can alternate dating site but never use 2 at the same time, again over exposure.
Gaeta Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 sigh...its like im arguing with a wall. Hey, if online dating is crap for YOU than get off of it. Why spend so much energy trying to convince others it's crap? It's good for some, it's not for others. End of story.
autumnnight Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 Going silent and flaking out before a date is rude and worthy of an eyeroll, a bit of irritation and a "next." This reaction is almost like she stood him up at their wedding. It's over the top whining. 2
bentleychic Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) You have single handedly confirmed a scientific theory that will be highly beneficial to me and any other single guys who think OLD might be a good way to meet a nice single woman with whom they can start a relationship. You've proven that mentally stable, mature, attractive women aren't on dating sites. They don't need them. These women don't need to take the time to take selfies, write up a profile that's mostly lies (except for the part about them binge watching Netflix every Friday night) and bask in the attention of an inbox full of messages from guys they have no intention of meeting irl. Because these women have no problem attracting men IRL. In fact, most of these women are probably already in relationships. The fact that you were online in itself should have been a huge red flag. I'm sure someone else has already touched on this, but couldn't the same exact thing be said of you? (Before you got your feelings hurt and deleted your profile, that is.) Or does that whole red flag, mentally unstable, immature thing only apply to WOMEN that are online dating and not men? Edited July 27, 2015 by bentleychic 2
katiegrl Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 I'm sure someone else has already touched on this, but couldn't the same exact thing be said of you? (Before you got your feelings hurt and deleted your profile, that is.) Or does that whole red flag, mentally unstable, immature thing only apply to WOMEN that are online dating and not men? Yeah it has been mentioned and unbelievably, the OP claims it DOES only apply to women! 1
bentleychic Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 Yeah it has been mentioned and unbelievably, the OP claims it DOES only apply to women! Well, of course he claims that. Because that makes perfect sense. lol *smh*
jay1983 Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 Going silent and flaking out before a date is rude and worthy of an eyeroll, a bit of irritation and a "next." This reaction is almost like she stood him up at their wedding. It's over the top whining. I think it's more like the straw that broke the camel's back. It's happens more often than not. I don't date traditionally anymore, I just make plans with friends and invite. If she shows up cool, if not I just go on about my night.
autumnnight Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 I guess I'm just too simple and old to get it. If you are having trouble dating, how is exuding anger and bitterness at the entire female gender going to HELP your chances.... Maybe I'm missing something 1
bentleychic Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 I guess I'm just too simple and old to get it. If you are having trouble dating, how is exuding anger and bitterness at the entire female gender going to HELP your chances.... Maybe I'm missing something The only way it will help is if he decides to start batting for the other team. (Which hey, do whatever floats your boat, but otherwise, if you want to end up in a happy relationship with a woman, might want to work through your anger towards women.)
katiegrl Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 Well, of course he claims that. Because that makes perfect sense. lol *smh* Haha .....:p:p right back at ya!
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