Bobbi7 Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 And what drugs would they be referring to? Weed? Mushrooms? Hopefully, its nothing major like crack or heroin-I'm not down with that...
Gary S Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 Vices, such as drugs, can be a deal breaker for many people. You'll have to decide what is right for you. 5
yxalitis Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 At least he's honest and up front about it... How YOU deal with that is up to YOU. For me, it depends massively on the what, and how often. 1
amaysngrace Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 And what drugs would they be referring to? Weed? Mushrooms? Hopefully, its nothing major like crack or heroin-I'm not down with that... I doubt it's crack or heroin. It's probably just how he parties from time to time but doesn't make a habit of it, like just does them recreationally.
shvrk Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 I'd just assume it'd be pot and wouldn't care. Since pot can be nice to have around sometimes. That's just me. I would ask though.
acrosstheuniverse Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 Doesn't really matter what we think does it? It all depends on your stance on drugs. 3
Omei Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) It would be worrying for me, im not sure id think it was pot, us pot users usually like to announce "I only smoke weed!" as to not be mistaken for someone who dabbles in other things. Pot tokers really prefer to say weed and not drug because it sounds less harsh. The only way you'll know is by asking I guess. Edited July 18, 2015 by Omei
Arieswoman Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 Q Would you be turned off if a guy puts he "sometimes" does drugs on his profile? A. Yes. I don't know about USA but in UK drugs are illegal. If you work in Healthcare, Rail Transport, any of the Emergency Services, Government(Central or Local) Social Services or major charities drug-taking is a disciplinary offence and so is facilitating that activity. I would tread warily.... 1
candie13 Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 yes, red flag. People usually minimize the quantity of cigarettes / drugs. People who say that they do drugs "sometimes" usually do it every other day. Let's not even get into what sort of drogs. Just say no - to drugs and to men doing drugs. Let's put it differently, if the man smoked weed during the weekend, to try and sleep, I doubt he'll put it on his online form. A guy who loves partying and does LSD and stuff when he goes drinking with his mates might say "sometimes". Personally, I prefer a man who likes his own company and doesn't need drugs to keep himself entertained. I would so never respond to that guy... But I'm pretty black and white. I would also never date a separated man, a man fresh out of a break up or divorce or a man with children. Yes, I eliminate a lot of potential dates, but... peace of mind over a peace of arse. Works like a charm 3
lollipopspot Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 I don't know about USA but in UK drugs are illegal. Pot is not illegal everywhere in the US. Occasional recreational/medical use of pot and mushrooms would be fine. Harder drugs, no.
candie13 Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 FYI: people constantly underevaluate the consumption of drugs / cigarettes they do. For instance, a person who says that smokes 5-6 cigarettes a day is considered a smoker by cigarette companies and would pay a LOT of money to track his consumption behavior for their market research studies . I don't know what's the bigger red flag: that he admits he does drugs or that the admits doing them sometimes. 2
still_an_Angel Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 Yes for me. I work in the health department and I know the devastating effects of drugs on lives, family, society, etc. More important is how do you stand on this issue? 2
elaine567 Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 The fact he is saying that he "sometimes does drugs" on his profile means they are pretty important to him in the same way that a guy who says he "likes a drink" on his profile is unlikely to be only having a glass of wine with a meal on the odd night out, is he? No assumptions can be made ie "its probably only weed on the odd weekend", as that may NOT be the case. He maybe only takes drugs "sometimes" ie when he is not in rehab... Also "does drugs" as opposed to saying he "smokes", may also be the clue it is not just a weed habit. "Weed" is also not as harmless as some may think and do you really want to be with a guy who is stoned half the time, buzzed up, or is spending vast sums on the latest high? IMO, relationships are hard enough without the complications of a drug habit to contend with too. 3
VengeanceGuidesMe Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 It would be worrying for me, im not sure id think it was pot, us pot users usually like to announce "I only smoke weed!" as to not be mistaken for someone who dabbles in other things. Pot tokers really prefer to say weed and not drug because it sounds less harsh. The only way you'll know is by asking I guess. Who smokes pot but hasn't taken some shrooms or dropped some LSD? I put sometimes in because I like to blaze. When I was younger, I liked to do shrooms and LSD with the occasional party with some blow or wearing a morphine patch, or eating a vicodin. I put sometimes because I don't want to deal with people who are uptight and anti drugs even though I no longer do them. I still smoke pot on a weekly basis, but I don't do anything else anymore. I just am in the mindset that it's not a problem if someone does. I support it. Open your mind, experience it.. just don't become an addict.
babycakees Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 For me, yes. I wouldn't even initiate contact or reply if he contacted first. I work in management at my job and we have a strict no drug policy, including random drug testing. Not saying their drug use would influence me to participate, but I'd prefer not to even associate and be with someone who has similar beliefs. 4
IronZ Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 It depends what drugs they are (not very specific, is it?) but for me something like that shows a lack of control and it kind of makes them seem like a loser. Not only is this person hung up on doing drugs, but they're open about it and don't care who knows. Most worthwhile jobs want you to undergo drug testing before hiring you. This means he/she will probably not have a good stable job. They likely won't be very financially independent. There's always the risk that they will get caught and might face disciplinary charges. If you go out with them they might try to get you into the lifestyle. So for me, drugs on a profile are definitely a deal breaker. 2
lollipopspot Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 I actually think a lot of people could benefit from the controlled use of mushrooms. Drugs don't have to signal addiction. Critically, however, the participants themselves were not the only ones who saw the benefit from the insights they gained: their friends, family member and colleagues also reported that the psilocybin experience had made the participants calmer, happier and kinder.... many of Griffiths’ participants said they were left with the sense that they understood themselves and others better and therefore had greater compassion and patience. “I feel that I relate better in my marriage. There is more empathy — a greater understanding of people and understanding their difficulties and less judgment,” said one participant. “Less judging of myself, too.” Another said: “I have better interaction with close friends and family and with acquaintances and strangers. … My alcohol use has diminished dramatically.” Study: Psilocybin, the Drug in 'Magic Mushrooms,' Lifts Mood and Increases Compassion Over the Long Term | TIME.com 2
VengeanceGuidesMe Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 Most of you don't know what you're talking about. I'm sorry, but it's true. I know plenty of people who make 70-100k+ year who smoke pot on the daily. A lot of companies, when you're highly educated, don't bother drug testing. Why? Because, you've proven that whatever it is you do between 6 pm and 8 am doesn't affect your ability to make it here and do your job. Look at people in the academic sector. No drug tests are administered by academic institutions for positions for post docs (40k/year) to faculty (200k/year). I know plenty of professors who blaze. I also have had friends working in companies that didn't drop them because they had a phD and letters of rec. Not to mention, most drug laws are horse **** (check out gabor matee to read up about the difference between drug addiction and drug use). Most drug users aren't the low life addicts you think they are. Usually they are highly intelligent thrill seekers. I think it's a mind set thing, and think people so opposed to drugs are also close minded and unwilling to be objective to their own thoughts. So for me, putting sometimes use drugs is legit, because you don't use them daily, you know that there are more important things in life, but you don't have any problems or insecurities about it. I want to know how many of you sit there and answer no to that question and drink vodka, wine or beer. That is the most consumed drug in the US, and is also one of the most problematic. Weed is incredibly safe compared to booze, a lot less addictive (physically weed isn't at all, but psychologically, yes it is), and just illegal from years of baseless lies spread about it. Follow anti-marijuana legislation funding. You'll see how many tobacco and alcohol companies are the ones funding it. They don't want competition for their drug. 2
elaine567 Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 I actually think a lot of people could benefit from the controlled use of mushrooms. Drugs don't have to signal addiction. Study: Psilocybin, the Drug in 'Magic Mushrooms,' Lifts Mood and Increases Compassion Over the Long Term | TIME.com OK, but I doubt this guy means he is on a controlled trial of a drug.
VengeanceGuidesMe Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) OK, but I doubt this guy means he is on a controlled trial of a drug. You missed the point Elaine. The point is that psychedelics have positive outcomes and can be beneficial. They aren't all to be lumped into some dirty box of things only used by the dregs of our society. This guy is treating heroin addictions with DMT. (ayahuasca tea) Edited July 18, 2015 by VengeanceGuidesMe
elaine567 Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 You missed the point Elaine. The point is that psychedelics have positive outcomes and can be beneficial. They aren't all to be lumped into some dirty box of things only used by the dregs of our society. I didn't miss the point, I am well aware drugs legal and illegal have a beneficial effect, but this isn't really about drugs per se. Is it really advisable for a young girl who isn't into the drug scene, who knows little about it, to get attached to a guy who is? A guy, who may be one of those "oh so sensible" casual drug users, but may just as easily be a mixed up kid who is self medicating to cope with his many issues. 1
lollipopspot Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 Is it really advisable for a young girl who isn't into the drug scene, who knows little about it, to get attached to a guy who is? A guy, who may be one of those "oh so sensible" casual drug users, but may just as easily be a mixed up kid who is self medicating to cope with his many issues. I'd say to take it on a case by case basis, and see what camp he falls into. I don't know your geographic location or culture, but where I'm from there are many respectable people who are very occasional drug users, and find either recreational or medicinal benefit from it, and it doesn't veer into harder drugs or daily use. 2
BlackOpsZombieGirl Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 Most of you don't know what you're talking about. I'm sorry, but it's true. I know plenty of people who make 70-100k+ year who smoke pot on the daily. A lot of companies, when you're highly educated, don't bother drug testing. Why? Because, you've proven that whatever it is you do between 6 pm and 8 am doesn't affect your ability to make it here and do your job. Look at people in the academic sector. No drug tests are administered by academic institutions for positions for post docs (40k/year) to faculty (200k/year). I know plenty of professors who blaze. I also have had friends working in companies that didn't drop them because they had a phD and letters of rec. Not to mention, most drug laws are horse **** (check out gabor matee to read up about the difference between drug addiction and drug use). Most drug users aren't the low life addicts you think they are. Usually they are highly intelligent thrill seekers. I think it's a mind set thing, and think people so opposed to drugs are also close minded and unwilling to be objective to their own thoughts. So for me, putting sometimes use drugs is legit, because you don't use them daily, you know that there are more important things in life, but you don't have any problems or insecurities about it. I want to know how many of you sit there and answer no to that question and drink vodka, wine or beer. That is the most consumed drug in the US, and is also one of the most problematic. Weed is incredibly safe compared to booze, a lot less addictive (physically weed isn't at all, but psychologically, yes it is), and just illegal from years of baseless lies spread about it. Follow anti-marijuana legislation funding. You'll see how many tobacco and alcohol companies are the ones funding it. They don't want competition for their drug. You've raised some valid points here, Vengeance. Although I wouldn't want to be associated with or date someone who smokes weed 'on the daily', I wouldn't look down on them in any way - because as you've stated above, alchohol/beer etc. is also a type of drug; and I do drink wine at home on occasion and also drink mixed (girly lol) drinks and shots when I go out on a Friday or Saturday night. I guess alcohol/wine/beer is more acceptable to most people because they're legal even though it has probably killed more people than marijuana ever has. Hmm...Idk if I'd date someone who was bold enough to put that they 'sometimes do drugs' on their public profile; I guess it would depend what kind of drug they 'sometimes' partake in. If it's only marijuana, I'd probably date them to see if they were a hardcore pot head or if they just smoked occasionally the way that I drink wine. . 1
VengeanceGuidesMe Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) You've raised some valid points here, Vengeance. Although I wouldn't want to be associated with or date someone who smokes weed 'on the daily', I wouldn't look down on them in any way - because as you've stated above, alchohol/beer etc. is also a type of drug; and I do drink wine at home on occasion and also drink mixed (girly lol) drinks and shots when I go out on a Friday or Saturday night. I guess alcohol/wine/beer is more acceptable to most people because they're legal even though it has probably killed more people than marijuana ever has. Hmm...Idk if I'd date someone who was bold enough to put that they 'sometimes do drugs' on their public profile; I guess it would depend what kind of drug they 'sometimes' partake in. If it's only marijuana, I'd probably date them to see if they were a hardcore pot head or if they just smoked occasionally the way that I drink wine. . It's unquestionable; alcohol has killed more people than weed. Do you know what the LD50 of weed is? No one knows, because no one has smoked themselves to death. https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/LD50 This is what I mean about being objective though- if people sit and judge weed as being worse than alcohol clearly have never questioned what legality really is. They accept what media, society, and the government shove down their throat. I know a lot of women who wouldn't date a daily smoker that tokes a hit or two in the evening every night but would gladly date the guy who has a drink or two every night. Other than big brother telling us one is worse, what is really the difference? "At present it is estimated that marijuana’s LD-50 is around1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman terms this means that in order to induce death a marijuana smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times as much marijuana as is contained in one marijuana cigarette. NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh approximately .9 grams. A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal response." Edited July 18, 2015 by VengeanceGuidesMe 2
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