PogoStick Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 Any French or Europeans care to comment on this "2014 study by the French Institute of Public Opinion, which found that 55% of French men and 32% of French women had admitted to cheating on their spouse or significant other. Fortunately for the men, only 47% of the French see infidelity as "morally unacceptable," according to a Pew Research study Ansari cites."
PrettyEmily77 Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 So the majority of the French actually find it morally unacceptable, then... I have French relatives and, from what I know 1st hand, it's BS. Probs due to the fact the French are a lot more open to discussing that type of stuff to all and sundry. In terms of actual behaviour, I haven't noticed any difference between France and anywhere else - it's not exactly like no-one's ever been unfaithful in any other country ; not sure where you live, but infidelity is alive and well here in the UK. 1
Renton Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 Paternity tests in France: Paternity testing is regulated by the state and only allowed in certain cases: Without a court order the express consent of the person must be obtained in writing before the carrying out of the examination, after the person has been duly informed of its nature and its purpose. With a court order (if consent could not be obtained) This is partially due to the official desire to "preserve the peace" within French families, with the French government citing psychologists who state that fatherhood is determined by society, rather than biology. French men often circumvent these laws by sending samples of DNA to foreign laboratories, but risk prosecution if caught. The maximum penalty for carrying out secret paternity testing is one year in prison and a €15,000 fine. Progress indeed 1
Davey L Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 I don't know about France and Europe but certainly there is plenty of infidelity in the UK - I've known several people who had affairs, I've both been cheated on and cheated myself too. A married female friend of mine told me she'd had an affair and also said to me that "everyone does it". It does seem to be rampant these days, or maybe it's not hushed up as much as it used to be, and these continentals seem much more open about that sort of thing.
TaraMaiden2 Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 Infidelity is alive and well, always has been probably always will be, and is merrily living anywhere people do.
Author PogoStick Posted June 24, 2015 Author Posted June 24, 2015 I've heard from another source that it is not uncommon for a married French person to be allowed out on a "date" outside of the marriage. It may not be a majority doing so, but common enough that it's not particularly taboo.
PrettyEmily77 Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 I've heard from another source that it is not uncommon for a married French person to be allowed out on a "date" outside of the marriage. It may not be a majority doing so, but common enough that it's not particularly taboo. Must be gospel, then. 1
Snaggletooth Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 Any French or Europeans care to comment on this "2014 study by the French Institute of Public Opinion, which found that 55% of French men and 32% of French women admitted to cheating on their spouse or significant other. Fortunately for the men, only 47% of the French see infidelity as "morally unacceptable," according to a Pew Research study Ansari cites." Englishman with a French girlfriend. The article is a load of b*ll*cks. I have just read the article to my girlfriend and she says she agrees, Ansari is talking from his ars*hole. She said "what a prick, where on earth did he get that rubbish from. Is he trying to be a comedian? Connard!" While many may look upon the French and think anything goes, that is not the case. They take relationships and marriage as seriously as anyone else and betrayal hurts as much as it does for anyone else, it's just the French are more open and honest in talking about it, as PrettyEmily said. The funny thing is, the French actually look upon Americans and think they are charmless, artless, clueless, clumsy and shallow serial daters with a bizarre concept of love and romance who struggle to be exclusive to one person at a time and do not take the art of seduction seriously. An American waltzing around certain parts of Paris asking young men questions may find the answers he needs to confirm his preconceptions. Should he prance around a city like Bordeaux he would likely get very different responses. Dare he frolic around Marseille asking such questions, he may well waddle away with a boot up his rectum. 2
lollipopspot Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 If both parties find it acceptable to "cheat" on their mate I would say that it's not cheating, it's an open relationship. I question if there is a translation/semantics issue here.
MuddyFootprints Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 Paternity tests in France: Paternity testing is regulated by the state and only allowed in certain cases: Without a court order the express consent of the person must be obtained in writing before the carrying out of the examination, after the person has been duly informed of its nature and its purpose. With a court order (if consent could not be obtained) This is partially due to the official desire to "preserve the peace" within French families, with the French government citing psychologists who state that fatherhood is determined by society, rather than biology. French men often circumvent these laws by sending samples of DNA to foreign laboratories, but risk prosecution if caught. The maximum penalty for carrying out secret paternity testing is one year in prison and a €15,000 fine. Progress indeed If someone takes any tissue or dna without my consent for any reason should be subject to criminal penalties.
Author PogoStick Posted June 24, 2015 Author Posted June 24, 2015 Englishman with a French girlfriend. The article is a load of b*ll*cks. Thanks for the 1st hand report. I suppose Paris itself could be different than other parts of the country. 1st hand I can say I've known 2 French men who were not faithful. One lives in the US but has only been here a couple years. The other has a mistress here when he flies to the US for business.
PrettyEmily77 Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 An American waltzing around certain parts of Paris asking young men questions may find the answers he needs to confirm his preconceptions. Should he prance around a city like Bordeaux he would likely get very different responses. Dare he frolic around Marseille asking such questions, he may well waddle away with a boot up his rectum. That's where my mother's from and she would definitely agree! 1
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