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I support maternity leave and wish it would be even longer than what it is now. I was just pointing out the fact that losing a manager, female or male, can be potentially disruptive, which is why those kinds of thoughts cross a person's mind when making hiring and promotional decisions.

 

I think anyone who just denies employment or promotions solely on the basis of what someone might do is an idiot and not worth working for. The issue of pregnancy and motherhood shouldn't even be brought up during an interview, for both professional and not to mention legal reasons. Still, people are going to think about it, and perhaps a few of those might factor that in with a host of other variables.

 

Sure, there are a lot of idiots in the world. And a lot of lawyers waiting to pounce. :laugh:

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Where I work it's equal pay, but negotiated starting on a higher salary scale, so I may have been on more than some male co-workers.

 

 

I work in Public Sector though, so we are held more accountable

 

 

Mrs Trishern

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Ha! Accountability in the public sector. That's a first.

 

I haven't seen much financial discrimination between sexes. My job requires me to work on the sales side of things and people are paid commission. Pretty much performance related. Agree on the lack of negotiation though. The trick is to move at the top of your game when demand for you is highest. Not when you HAVE to.

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Thinking that women are earning less is going to sicken many women and thinking there's this glass ceiling is a great way to not try very hard. Sounds like self-fulfilling prophecies to me and a way to underachieve.

 

I've never experienced this "glass ceiling" on the east coast of the US and never know what people are talking about since I've worked from the young age of 14 and I'm in my early 40's now.

 

As a matter of fact, one of the best jobs I had (pay wise) went so the opposite of what I hear is supposed to happen. I was aggressive, competitive and watched my boss fire one guy and bingo! Raise in my check and I took over his job along with the one I already had. Then, another guy gets fired and bingo! Another raise for me and more responsibility. My coworkers were dropping like flies and I was getting raises every week to every 2 weeks. I had no idea what to do with all the money and I loved all the responsibility because I have a pretty bad case of ADHD and all that work kept me awake.

 

I have never experienced a "glass ceiling" and I think the reason why is my competitive nature combined with having ADHD which has made me an insanely productive person at work who outperforms anyone I've ever worked with. I have confidence in myself and ask what I deserve and when I don't get it, I'm the first one to go in my bosses office and slam my fists on his desk and demand it. If he wavers, I don't - I leave.

 

There is no glass ceiling that can't be easily shattered with a good sledge. I think the worst problem is a lack of competitive nature with most women because typically, little girls just are not raised that way. They are raised to be nice, nice, nice. Not competitive in a very healthy way.

 

When the boys were playing football and learning to be FAIR but competitive, what, as a girl, were you doing? Slumber party? I was dealing with abusive, hallucinating drug dealers for parents so I'm harder than most women. And I think it's a shame. Every time I see women not expect what they deserve and not know how to strive to be the very best at what they do because that competitive nature wasn't instilled in them, that's what sickens me.

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