Naive Posted April 29, 2005 Posted April 29, 2005 I get them a lot, not as much as before because I do everything in my hands not to feel like that but at times it is inevitable and I get them. My biggest fear is fainting somewhere where no one knows me. I have never actually fainted but I always feel like I am about to and somehow I manage to relax so it will not get to that point. It is the nastiest, most scary feeling. I am more scared of feeling like that and fainting than of anything else. Has anyone ever fainted while they had a panic attack and if so how did it feel?
tokyo Posted April 29, 2005 Posted April 29, 2005 I have never fainted in my life, but I just wanted to ask something. Have you ever tried relaxation techniques like yoga or meditation? They might enhance your body awareness and help you when you getting your panic attacks. I'm doing autogenic training and I think it's contributing to my general health and state of mind.
blind_otter Posted April 29, 2005 Posted April 29, 2005 I've had seizures because of panic attacks. It is the worst feeling and it f*cking hurts like HELL, and then I pass out for like 2-3 hours.
alphamale Posted April 29, 2005 Posted April 29, 2005 Originally posted by kooky Have you ever tried relaxation techniques like yoga or meditation? They might enhance your body awareness and help you when you getting your panic attacks. I'm doing autogenic training and I think it's contributing to my general health and state of mind. what a farce, yoga, meditation, autogenic bullkrap. yeah that will really help with a biochemical based brain receptor imbalance. none of that hokus pokus bullshyt works for these types of problems. have you ever tried yoga to fix your broken leg or unclog your arteries? what a joke. people who recommend these snake-oil remedies are keeping some people from getting real treatment that could help them out.
CurlyIam Posted April 29, 2005 Posted April 29, 2005 Relaxation techniques are VERY effective when you're anxious and prone to panic attacks. Naive, you seem to be ignoring the real problem here. IT's not where but why? Why would you faint? Do you hav diabetes, are you spasmophilic, or what? It is not normal AT ALL to feel like fainting. If you don't know what's causing this sensation, I suggest a blood test and a complete check up with your doc. I hope you're not starving yourself to death in order to lose some pounds, Naive!
blind_otter Posted April 29, 2005 Posted April 29, 2005 Originally posted by alphamale what a farce, yoga, meditation, autogenic bullkrap. yeah that will really help with a biochemical based brain receptor imbalance. none of that hokus pokus bullshyt works for these types of problems. have you ever tried yoga to fix your broken leg or unclog your arteries? what a joke. people who recommend these snake-oil remedies are keeping some people from getting real treatment that could help them out. Buspar blows hairy ballsack. benzodiazepines are highly addictive.
st8toftheheart Posted April 29, 2005 Posted April 29, 2005 I have fainted/blacked out from a panic attack. I usually know when the panic is getting bad enough that that might happen. So I make sure that I am in a safe place etc. I am on Xanax, a type of benzodiazepine. I don't take it regularly as to not be addicted to it, only when the attacks are extermely bad. So Yes, if you get to the point where fainting is a possibility you need help urgently, by whatever mechanism is available. Talk to your doctor first.
alphamale Posted April 29, 2005 Posted April 29, 2005 Originally posted by blind_otter benzodiazepines are highly addictive. they are very addictive but also quite effective. doctors are now prescribing benzos on long-term basis if the drug works (which, usually it does). there new thinking on this class of drugs is that it is better for the patient to be addicted at a low dose as long as their symptoms are gone or reduced. read up on it.
tiki Posted April 29, 2005 Posted April 29, 2005 I don't have panic attacks, but I do have vaso-depressor syncope. I pass out. I took meds for it daily and weaned myself off of it about 6-9 months ago. I see a cardiologist and have even had a tilt test (where they try to make you pass out). I had no recollection of passing out, but the nurse said that I had seized too. It's so stressful on my body, I feel weak for hours. It feels like I'm dying. My heart begins to pound out of my chest. My eyes go black and I can't see anything. It's like an outer body experience. It seems that flourescent lights aggrivate it. I often times have these spells in Wal-Mart, once when I was pregnant. The only thing that is of any comfort to me is cool air or cold water. Then just patience....and you come back to. It's the scariest thing I've ever experienced in my life. It's happened numerous times. I feel it coming on. If I'm driving, I pull over. I tell people around me that if it happens, just leave me be. Maybe elevate my feet or something (this stimulates blood flow to the heart). I think a lot of it can be brought on by poor diet.
alphamale Posted April 29, 2005 Posted April 29, 2005 Originally posted by st8toftheheart So Yes, if you get to the point where fainting is a possibility you need help urgently, by whatever mechanism is available. Talk to your doctor first. ahhh yes, let me point out something here first. the FEELING that you will faint or die or lose control is a symptom of panic attacks in general. but actually fainting or dying or losing control does not happen or if it does it is extrememly rare.
blind_otter Posted April 29, 2005 Posted April 29, 2005 Originally posted by alphamale they are very addictive but also quite effective. doctors are now prescribing benzos on long-term basis if the drug works (which, usually it does). there new thinking on this class of drugs is that it is better for the patient to be addicted at a low dose as long as their symptoms are gone or reduced. read up on it. I already did. I was on xanax for 6 months, and klonopin for 1 year. xanax withdrawal was one of the things they considered in my seizure disorder because I was in benzo withdrawal and went into convulsions. edit: getting off klonopin was one of THE most difficult processes I've ever gone through. Also not recommended for women of childbearing age.
blind_otter Posted April 29, 2005 Posted April 29, 2005 Originally posted by tiki I don't have panic attacks, but I do have vaso-depressor syncope. I pass out. I took meds for it daily and weaned myself off of it about 6-9 months ago. I see a cardiologist and have even had a tilt test (where they try to make you pass out). I had no recollection of passing out, but the nurse said that I had seized too. It's so stressful on my body, I feel weak for hours. It feels like I'm dying. My heart begins to pound out of my chest. My eyes go black and I can't see anything. It's like an outer body experience. This is how I feel after my seizures. I wonder if this is one of the tests they are going to do when I am in the hospital next week? Should I ask about it? They are wondering why i have convulsiosn and pass out because my last eeg 2 years ago didn't show an epileptic brain wave.
tiki Posted April 29, 2005 Posted April 29, 2005 It's called a tilt test. The point is to try and make you pass out. You've got on a BP cuff, EKG leads and an IV. You lay there strapped to a table in the dark for 15 minutes. They monitor your levels. Then the put you up, almost to a standing position. I started feeling funky. She cut on this med into my IV and I was gone. My heartbeat felt like I was getting hit in the chest with a hammer, no joke. I started to freak out and she was like "It's okay, just relax and let it happen". I didn't realize I had passed out. When she told me that I had loss conscousness, I literally fought with her, telling her that she must be mistaken (I had no recollection). That's when she said that she was saying my name, I was unresponsive and 'seizing'. I do have a lot of anxieties about passing out. I usually lie really still, close my eyes and go with it.
HotCaliGirl Posted April 29, 2005 Posted April 29, 2005 I've fainted twice. The first time was when I was a waitress supporting myself through college. While at work, I was VERY stressed out and overwhelmed, thinking I had to get off so I could go study for an exam. I was getting light headed and went to the break room. The next thing I knew I was on the floor looking up with a bunch of faces looking down at me, telling me they had called the ambulance. The 2nd time I fainted was about a year and a half ago. I was at work and VERY stressed out over a deal I was working on that had some problems come up. I was in a meeting and was not feeling right so I excused myself. As I was walking to my office, I started to see black dots and felt a little light headed and boom, I fell/dropped to the ground, barely missed hitting a wall. I was out for a while but fortunately my assistant used to be a nurse and she took care of me. She knows how private I am so she waited for me to come back and asked if i wanted her to call an ambulance or else she could take care of me. I didn't want others to know so I said don't call the ambulance and she drove me to the hospital after giving me orange juice and waiting til I was more alert. It was very scary and sometimes I start feeling the symptoms and get scared if it ever happens and nobody is around, like while I'm at home alone. What if I hit my head or need immediate medical attention when it happens? Recently I had been feeling the symptoms come up a few times.
alphamale Posted April 29, 2005 Posted April 29, 2005 Originally posted by HotCaliGirl I was out for a while but fortunately my assistant used to be a nurse and she took care of me. She knows how private I am so she waited for me to come back and asked if i wanted her to call an ambulance or else she could take care of me. I didn't want others to know so I said don't call the ambulance and she drove me to the hospital after giving me orange juice and waiting til I was more alert. The above was a real dumb thing to do, HCG. Had it been something more serious the extra time could have been the diffreence between life and death. next time call 911. most people understand these medical situations at work so don't worry about it.
Pocky Posted April 29, 2005 Posted April 29, 2005 I've fainted once - face first on a hardwood floor, but it wasn't anxiety related although I did have anxiety attacks for a year or so after I left the bad relationship. Ouch.
HotCaliGirl Posted April 29, 2005 Posted April 29, 2005 The above was a real dumb thing to do, HCG. Had it been something more serious the extra time could have been the diffreence between life and death. next time call 911. most people understand these medical situations at work so don't worry about it. You know, you're right Alpha...pathetic how some of us could be so concerned about appearances and what other people think sometimes... I'm quite petite so health ailments affect me much more than on a larger person - not much room to absorb things, instead my body reacts. I should take things more seriously.
blind_otter Posted April 29, 2005 Posted April 29, 2005 Originally posted by HotCaliGirl You know, you're right Alpha...pathetic how some of us could be so concerned about appearances and what other people think sometimes... I'm quite petite so health ailments affect me much more than on a larger person - not much room to absorb things, instead my body reacts. I should take things more seriously. I don't think being petite has much do to with how health ailment affect you. I'm petite (5' even) and I am chock FULL of health ailments, from digestive diseases to migranes to epilepsy. I'm still pretty sturdy. Take a lickin', keep on tickin'.
tiki Posted April 29, 2005 Posted April 29, 2005 Originally posted by HotCaliGirl You know, you're right Alpha...pathetic how some of us could be so concerned about appearances and what other people think sometimes... That's why most people die of choking in the restaurant bathroom. That's where they find most choking victims' bodies, on the floor in a bathroom stall. They're too embarassed to actually cough in front of everyone.
alphamale Posted April 29, 2005 Posted April 29, 2005 Originally posted by blind_otter I am chock FULL of health ailments, from digestive diseases to migranes to epilepsy. you forgot insanity, B_0
blind_otter Posted April 29, 2005 Posted April 29, 2005 Originally posted by alphamale you forgot insanity, B_0 I thought that was a given because I'm a woman! All women being completely insane, emotionally random, and completely inconsistent.
st8toftheheart Posted April 29, 2005 Posted April 29, 2005 ahhh yes, let me point out something here first. the FEELING that you will faint or die or lose control is a symptom of panic attacks in general. but actually fainting or dying or losing control does not happen or if it does it is extrememly rare. In my case I have fainted. Mostly due from Hyperventilation of course.
Author Naive Posted April 29, 2005 Author Posted April 29, 2005 Originally posted by CurlyIam Naive, you seem to be ignoring the real problem here. IT's not where but why? Why would you faint? Do you hav diabetes, are you spasmophilic, or what? It is not normal AT ALL to feel like fainting. If you don't know what's causing this sensation, I suggest a blood test and a complete check up with your doc. I hope you're not starving yourself to death in order to lose some pounds, Naive! I have never fainted before. I just feel like I am about to when I get the panic attacks. I always manage to control myself before it happens. It's something that is wrong with me mentally not physically. Before I knew that what I have is Agoraphobia I would go to the doctor all the time trying to find out why my heart was acting up and I thougth so many things were wrong with me until finally I found out I had a phobia.
tiki Posted April 29, 2005 Posted April 29, 2005 Originally posted by ~Naive~ It's something that is wrong with me mentally not physically. But it's physical, I think. You get mentally bombarded and your heart and brain miscommunicates, that's when you pass out. Your brain says to speed up and your heart says to slow down - so you shut down. That's how the doctors have explained it to me, anyway. Mines related to low blood pressure too.
Author Naive Posted April 29, 2005 Author Posted April 29, 2005 Originally posted by tiki But it's physical, I think. You get mentally bombarded and your heart and brain miscommunicates, that's when you pass out. Your brain says to speed up and your heart says to slow down - so you shut down. That's how the doctors have explained it to me, anyway. Mines related to low blood pressure too. Mine is related to Agoraphobia and my Agoraphobia is related to God knows what!!!!
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