Do modern women reject men too often?

[Zing]

I'm glad that you feel you know my experiences better than I do. I've been rejected every time I pursued a man, but you're right, I know nothing about rejection. Silly me to think I knew something... none of my past experiences are relevant or real life!

 

I never claimed such a thing. I am only talking from the perspective of the majority, and how things work for most of us. If you actually did pursue men(I'm guessing way above your value) then that is an enigma.

 

 

It doesn't matter what I do? News to me.

 

Tell the younger me that was single for 6 years and couldn't figure out why the hell she couldn't get dates and couldn't figure out why the hell men weren't interested in her, that it doesn't matter what she does and she can just have whoever she wants, guarantee I would've felt like complete **** and would further wonder what the hell was so wrong with me that I couldn't do what is clearly so very simple for even total bitches.

 

Were you out of shape or unable to dress yourself or maintain proper hygiene? Those are the only reasons I can think of that you wouldn't get dates for 6 years.

 

Putting aside your personal experience for one second, do you think that women face as much rejection as men?

 

Some guys need to grow a pair come on guys if she says NO it not the end of the world.

 

White knight to the rescue!

 

Becoming more and more common. Especially among attractive, well educated, successful women who are tired of:

 

A) only getting the attention of men they are not interested in.

B) playing the role of being passive and waiting for the people who they are actually interested to make a move.

 

My current girlfriend pursued me and quite heavily at that and I've been asked out several times by other women. Quite often get asked if I'm single in one way or another. I wouldn't say it's a fantasy world the landscape is changing however I'm not going to argue that men get rejected far more often than women.

 

Look, I have been pursued as well. But my point is that it's totally different and when it's happened to me it's been maybe a once a year thing, and rarely is it from a woman who I would ever consider worth dating.

 

Being pursued is a daily occurrence for women. They are constantly made to feel how great they are and get validation without even trying.

Edited June 20, 2015 by Zing

[Krieger]

I never claimed such a thing. I am only talking from the perspective of the majority, and how things work for most of us. If you actually did pursue men(I'm guessing way above your value) then that is an enigma.

 

 

 

 

Were you out of shape or unable to dress yourself or maintain proper hygiene? Those are the only reasons I can think of that you wouldn't get dates for 6 years.

 

Putting aside your personal experience for one second, do you think that women face as much rejection as men?

 

 

 

White knight to the rescue![/QUOTE]

 

How so? I do care if a female says NO to me and will move on to another female.

 

One of my female teachers made the comment on how her and her husband meet. It was at college but what he made him a boss. He asked her out she said NO he did cry like a child do you know what he did ? He asked another girl out in front of her .

[Krieger]

Pretty much sums up this thread.

 

I think most woman will agree with this they all ready have one vagina to take care of there do not want to take care of two.

[Zing]

All you men just need to man up! Hurr just harden up you pussies!

 

Ridiculous.

[Shining One]

I don't get it.

 

How did I not reject him? He asked me out, I said no. I'd wager that he took that as a rejection.

 

Even the next morning he texted me telling me to look outside my front door. There was a fresh coffee waiting for me and a note saying his offer still stood. I had to tell him no, again and wanted to kick something because of it.

 

I don't think there's any logical way to say it wasn't a rejection.

I agree, this is a rejection, but it's probably the easiest rejection to receive. It's easier to accept a woman's rejection if she's unavailable because your default thought isn't: "What's wrong with me?"

[Shining One]

But women DO pursue. Many do, actually...

 

I've pursued men before. Sure, not on a WEEKLY basis or anything, but yes I've done it.

 

And got rejected every single time.

 

No, rejection isn't fun, but I can appreciate what it feels like, and then move on from it.

Not many women have the experience you do. How have the cumulative rejections affected you? For me, it got steadily worse and I didn't notice my demeanor changing as the rejections piled up. I was quite the mess for a while.

[Halcyon]

All you men just need to man up! Hurr just harden up you pussies!

 

Ridiculous.

 

I wouldn't say harden up. I would say accept the person just isn't interested in you for whatever reason and move on. It isn't their fault which a lot of guys get hung up on because they feel slighted that they couldn't possibly feel the same way. That is where it becomes toxic.

 

Rejection for me became much easier to deal with as time went on. Especially when I shifted my mentality from 'there must be something horribly wrong with me to be rejected' to 'I am simply not what they are looking for and that doesn't mean there is something wrong with me'.

[Shining One]

I wouldn't say harden up. I would say accept the person just isn't interested in you for whatever reason and move on. It isn't their fault which a lot of guys get hung up on because they feel slighted that they couldn't possibly feel the same way. That is where it becomes toxic.

 

Rejection for me became much easier to deal with as time went on. Especially when I shifted my mentality from 'there must be something horribly wrong with me to be rejected' to 'I am simply not what they are looking for and that doesn't mean there is something wrong with me'.

This is a hard lesson to learn. It took me a very long time to accept this.

[guest569]

Not many women have the experience you do. How have the cumulative rejections affected you? For me, it got steadily worse and I didn't notice my demeanor changing as the rejections piled up. I was quite the mess for a while.

 

A lot of women actually have that experience. I had my fair share of rejections, starting as a child/teenager. It has destroyed my self esteem to this day.

[Shining One]

A lot of women actually have that experience. I had my fair share of rejections, starting as a child/teenager. It has destroyed my self esteem to this day.

If you don't mind my asking, can you elaborate? What do you consider your fair share? You mention that it has destroyed your self esteem even today. Have you not had positive experiences since then? Or have the positive experiences not been sufficient to restore your self esteem? In my case, I started getting "better" once I started experiencing success.

 

To be clear, what I meant in my response to Phoe was that very few women have a 100% rejection ratio, with the exception of those women who have only asked out one person and been rejected.

[guest569]

If you don't mind my asking, can you elaborate? What do you consider your fair share? You mention that it has destroyed your self esteem even today. Have you not had positive experiences since then? Or have the positive experiences not been sufficient to restore your self esteem? In my case, I started getting "better" once I started experiencing success.

 

To be clear, what I meant in my response to Phoe was that very few women have a 100% rejection ratio, with the exception of those women who have only asked out one person and been rejected.

 

I've had only a couple of brief relationships and they both dumped me! So they are the times i was not rejected straight up.

[Rejected Rosebud]

 

I don't even have to debate this because it's just not how things work, it's really silly to claim that "women face rejection too!!", because you just don't,

Really? REALLY?? :eek: So you just 100% refute all the experiences of all us girls on here because our experiences don't support the way you believe "things work" and our experiences are SILLY??? Oh. I wonder why you have issues with women.

[Shining One]

I've had only a couple of brief relationships and they both dumped me! So they are the times i was not rejected straight up.

That makes sense. No positive experiences means no opportunities to rebuild your self esteem. How many men did you ask out? Did you feel any resentment building towards the men with each rejection or did you blame yourself entirely? In my case, I blamed myself for the most part. As the numbers grew (not sure exactly when), I started resenting women.

[Leigh 87]

I think that saying guys are rejected too often is perhaps over simplifying a difficult concept. Without sounding patronising I think the wants females have, have changed and evolved.

 

How much of this is driven by media and society I cant speculate on but I believe that perhaps guys haven't change fundamentally enough to meet these wants.

 

Sure, the fundamentals remains the same, security, looks, material worth but the advent of the career minded female has perhaps left many guys who would have had a chance with the typical housewife scenario, looking around and wondering why they are alone.

 

Are females unduly harsh at rejecting guy, definitely, are their requirements unrealistic, I believe in some aspects they are.

 

Perhaps everything would be better if when a female rejects a guy she has the COURAGE to tell him WHY!

 

 

 

Oh I tell a guy why.

 

It only gets me abused!

 

I say sorry, I felt no spark and I look for strong chemistry. I find you attractive but I am just not feeling excited about another date so what's the point?

 

The men then abuse me saying that I am throwing away a great guy and and I'll be single forever.

 

A few say " good luck then chasing the hot jerks who don't want you"

 

I never react badly. I've had men be honest and tell me " I find you smoking hot but our personalities aren't compatible for a relationship " or " I find you attractive but I am just not feeling that we click at this level of warrant dating...... But you're hot and I'd like to have sex with you if you're keen "

 

Hahaha. Me who decline me always ask for sex. They say I'm physically what they would settle for but they either want to an the field (the rich successful men who some panther are actually honest and upfront about their their intentions).

 

I always graciously wish them luck and thank them for their honestly . It's better than pretending to be into me, having sex then dissapearing on me.

 

Men are just awful though. They get so butthurt. Like Omg.

 

It's so sad and pathetic lol.

[Zing]

Really? REALLY?? :eek: So you just 100% refute all the experiences of all us girls on here because our experiences don't support the way you believe "things work" and our experiences are SILLY??? Oh. I wonder why you have issues with women.

 

When discussing this issue we can only look at the majority, these small instances of rejection are outliers and pale in comparison to what a successful man has to deal with weekly.

 

So for the purposes of the thread yes i do refute it because for the MAJORITY of the population this is not how things go.

 

Why do you think 70% of divorces are initiated by women? In before "'Cause women are empowered now and men just arent stepping up to the plate"

[Zing]

I wouldn't say harden up. I would say accept the person just isn't interested in you for whatever reason and move on. It isn't their fault which a lot of guys get hung up on because they feel slighted that they couldn't possibly feel the same way. That is where it becomes toxic.

 

Rejection for me became much easier to deal with as time went on. Especially when I shifted my mentality from 'there must be something horribly wrong with me to be rejected' to 'I am simply not what they are looking for and that doesn't mean there is something wrong with me'.

 

So why bother dating in the first place? Seeing as women can change their mind at the drop of a hat over the smallest thing.

 

You can see things that way but personally i think you're just dressing up rejection to make it not seem so bad. Rejection is still at its core saying "i do not like being around you and don't like who you are or the way you act". Especially true when done while in a relationship. Hence why advice like "be yourself" is terrible advice, usually given by women. If something isn't working, even dating/attraction and you keep doing the same thing that is insanity. You have to go be better, this is another thing women generally do not have to experience either.

[guest569]

That makes sense. No positive experiences means no opportunities to rebuild your self esteem. How many men did you ask out? Did you feel any resentment building towards the men with each rejection or did you blame yourself entirely? In my case, I blamed myself for the most part. As the numbers grew (not sure exactly when), I started resenting women.

 

I've come across 3 of the men on dating sites and Tinder who had rejected me (in that I would try talking to them but they wouldn't give me the time of day) . 2 of them didn't even remember me, but were interested and asked me out. The other right swiped me. I guess I'm just giving an example to OP, although these guys didn't regret rejecting me, they changed their minds later. Too late for me though.

 

I've never counted the amount of rejections and do not wish to. Its pretty shameful for me.

 

I never felt resentment for men. With break ups i struggled and blamed myself entirely. But others such as being ignored on dating sites, or being rejected after a date or two, i just accepted. Don't get me wrong, some of them were painful and upsetting too. But you have to accept it. You cant make someone like you.

[Halcyon]

When discussing this issue we can only look at the majority, these small instances of rejection are outliers and pale in comparison to what a successful man has to deal with weekly.

 

So for the purposes of the thread yes i do refute it because for the MAJORITY of the population this is not how things go.

 

Why do you think 70% of divorces are initiated by women? In before "'Cause women are empowered now and men just arent stepping up to the plate"

 

Let us have a conversation about how many women are sexually assaulted and murdered by their partners since only the majorities opinion matters. Makes us men look pretty ****ing terrible. You are cherry picking arguments to suit what you believe and ignoring anything that contradicts that.

 

We get it men have a raw deal when it comes to being rejected (initially). How do you propose this changes? Women be more pro active in dating? Oh no but that is not real and not even worth acknowledging because that is outliner activity. Despite pretty much everyone women I know doing this now because they know what they want. They must be all liars.

 

I still wouldn't trade being rejected less for the **** women have to deal with on a daily basis.

 

So why bother dating in the first place? Seeing as women can change their mind at the drop of a hat over the smallest thing.

 

You can see things that way but personally i think you're just dressing up rejection to make it not seem so bad. Rejection is still at its core saying "i do not like being around you and don't like who you are or the way you act". Especially true when done while in a relationship. Hence why advice like "be yourself" is terrible advice, usually given by women. If something isn't working, even dating/attraction and you keep doing the same thing that is insanity. You have to go be better, this is another thing women generally do not have to experience either.

 

Because for the most part dating is a fun activity for me? Men change their mind at a drop of a hat, I'm guilty of that myself.

 

You keep bringing rejection in relationships as if this is something that only happens to men which is just simply not true. You already answered your own questions about divorce even if you don't like that answer. There is less social stigma around divorce and rather than staying in a relationship they are deeply unhappy in for life some chose to leave. Let's add in that a larger percentage of women are abused by their partners might help partially explain explain a spike in why women initiate divorce. Men generally have more to lose in that regard so are more hesitant to pull the trigger.

 

I have never given the advise 'just be yourself' my advise is improve yourself for yourself and never stop people will find you attractive as a side effect. Too many men I know including some of my friends just go why bother I want the smart, attractive, successful women but I really don't want to grow as a person she should just accept who I am. It's much easier just to blame them for not accepting me. I have offered to help those friends multiple times but they all just go 'naa too much effort, i'll be jaded instead' which is totally their choice one they are deeply unhappy with.

 

Sorry just had to have a bit of a belly laugh at the idea women don't have to experience hard ship or understand it. Let's talk about trying to build a career as a women and the amount of bull**** they have to deal with trying to get past a certain point especially in male dominated fields because women are simply 'not suited for those roles'.

 

Say that to any successful women they don't understand hardship and their eyes will roll so far back into their head you will think they are having a seizure. Plus they also deal with relationship rejection as well even if they are the 'outliners' it doesn't make it any less real.

 

I don't know what you are trying to prove other than men have a really raw deal when it comes to rejection which I agree they do, I don't agree it is the worst thing in the world and how you deal with it is a lot to do with you. At least one has the option of controlling how they deal with rejection.

Edited June 20, 2015 by Halcyon

[Zing]

Let us have a conversation about how many women are sexually assaulted and murdered by their partners since only the majorities opinion matters. Makes us men look pretty ****ing terrible. You are cherry picking arguments to suit what you believe and ignoring anything that contradicts that.

 

No it doesnt, it makes a few select people look pretty ****ing terrible. DV also affects both genders, women commit it as well. But, again, this is a straw man. We were never discussing sexual/domestic violence. Whats the relevance to the topic?

 

We get it men have a raw deal when it comes to being rejected (initially). How do you propose this changes? Women be more pro active in dating? Oh no but that is not real and not even worth acknowledging because that is outliner activity. Despite pretty much everyone women I know doing this now because they know what they want. They must be all liars.

 

It won't change, not until theres a shift in the balance. I cant really say anything about your anecdotal hyperbolic response.

 

I still wouldn't trade being rejected less for the **** women have to deal with on a daily basis.

 

Ahh here we go, women have it so horrible on a daily basis, why exactly? And why do they need you to tell me how bad it is?

 

Because for the most part dating is a fun activity for me? Men change their mind at a drop of a hat, I'm guilty of that myself.

 

That's nice for you i guess. I find dating to be tiring and annoying and it seems many men feel the same. If you wondered why this article sums it up pretty well.

 

You keep bringing rejection in relationships as if this is something that only happens to men which is just simply not true. You already answered your own questions about divorce even if you don't like that answer. There is less social stigma around divorce and rather than staying in a relationship they are deeply unhappy in for life some chose to leave. Let's add in that a larger percentage of women are abused by their partners might help partially explain explain a spike in why women initiate divorce. Men generally have more to lose in that regard so are more hesitant to pull the trigger

 

So you're going with my entirely tongue-in-cheek response? You are buying into a victim mentality and its sad.

 

I have never given the advise 'just be yourself' my advise is improve yourself for yourself and never stop people will find you attractive as a side effect. Too many men I know including some of my friends just go why bother I want the smart, attractive, successful women but I really don't want to grow as a person she should just accept who I am. It's much easier just to blame them for not accepting me. I have offered to help those friends multiple times but they all just go 'naa too much effort, i'll be jaded instead' which is totally their choice one they are deeply unhappy with.

 

You didn't, but many women do, and have in this thread. Or is it at all possible that those women are perceiving themselves as providing much more value than they are actually worth. This whole argument is completely dissonant to the other arguements provided earlier by the way. The contradictions are astounding.

 

Sorry just had to have a bit of a belly laugh at the idea women don't have to experience hard ship or understand it. Let's talk about trying to build a career as a women and the amount of bull**** they have to deal with trying to get past a certain point especially in male dominated fields because women are simply 'not suited for those roles'.

 

Say that to any successful women they don't understand hardship and their eyes will roll so far back into their head you will think they are having a seizure. Plus they also deal with relationship rejection as well even if they are the 'outliners' it doesn't make it any less real.

 

I don't know what you are trying to prove other than men have a really raw deal when it comes to rejection which I agree they do, I don't agree it is the worst thing in the world and how you deal with it is a lot to do with it is a lot to do with you.

 

Stop with the strawmans. We arent discussing careers, we are talking dating. They arent related.

 

And dont misrepresent my words to suit your own needs, I never claimed that women don't "experience hard ship". I said that women do not have to respond to rejection by improving themselves at their core. They only need to lose weight, buy some clothes and go out to feel great again.

 

Due to the options women have breakups do not affect them nearly as badly. Why would it when you can just go out and get sex, affection and attention from mostly any guy.

Edited June 20, 2015 by Zing

[guest569]

And dont misrepresent my words to suit your own needs, I never claimed that women don't "experience hard ship". I said that women do not have to respond to rejection by improving themselves at their core. They only need to lose weight, buy some clothes and go out to feel great again.

 

Due to the options women have breakups do not affect them nearly as badly. Why would it when you can just go out and get sex, affection and attention from mostly any guy.

 

Oh FFS, what can I say. Where to start.. ANd should i bother.. No.

[GemmaUK]

Let us have a conversation about how many women are sexually assaulted and murdered by their partners since only the majorities opinion matters. Makes us men look pretty ****ing terrible. You are cherry picking arguments to suit what you believe and ignoring anything that contradicts that.

 

We get it men have a raw deal when it comes to being rejected (initially). How do you propose this changes? Women be more pro active in dating? Oh no but that is not real and not even worth acknowledging because that is outliner activity. Despite pretty much everyone women I know doing this now because they know what they want. They must be all liars.

 

I still wouldn't trade being rejected less for the **** women have to deal with on a daily basis.

 

 

 

Because for the most part dating is a fun activity for me? Men change their mind at a drop of a hat, I'm guilty of that myself.

 

You keep bringing rejection in relationships as if this is something that only happens to men which is just simply not true. You already answered your own questions about divorce even if you don't like that answer. There is less social stigma around divorce and rather than staying in a relationship they are deeply unhappy in for life some chose to leave. Let's add in that a larger percentage of women are abused by their partners might help partially explain explain a spike in why women initiate divorce. Men generally have more to lose in that regard so are more hesitant to pull the trigger.

 

I have never given the advise 'just be yourself' my advise is improve yourself for yourself and never stop people will find you attractive as a side effect. Too many men I know including some of my friends just go why bother I want the smart, attractive, successful women but I really don't want to grow as a person she should just accept who I am. It's much easier just to blame them for not accepting me. I have offered to help those friends multiple times but they all just go 'naa too much effort, i'll be jaded instead' which is totally their choice one they are deeply unhappy with.

 

Sorry just had to have a bit of a belly laugh at the idea women don't have to experience hard ship or understand it. Let's talk about trying to build a career as a women and the amount of bull**** they have to deal with trying to get past a certain point especially in male dominated fields because women are simply 'not suited for those roles'.

 

Say that to any successful women they don't understand hardship and their eyes will roll so far back into their head you will think they are having a seizure. Plus they also deal with relationship rejection as well even if they are the 'outliners' it doesn't make it any less real.

 

I don't know what you are trying to prove other than men have a really raw deal when it comes to rejection which I agree they do, I don't agree it is the worst thing in the world and how you deal with it is a lot to do with you. At least one has the option of controlling how they deal with rejection.

 

Great post and more than anything thank you for understanding and empathising and sorry but even being 'aware of' this stuff. Many men seem perpetually unaware.

 

I've had rejection from men I have approached and yes it stings but I don't dwell on it. It could be anything, I don't see a point taking it personally when I don't barely know a guy.

Having said all of that I have been through the style re-vamps (as we age we all do this - or at least women usually do. I still know many guys from school who are single and have pretty much always been who wear the same styles that they did when we were at school 30 years ago!), fitness & keeping in shape, make the most of what I have and honing my social skills and awareness over time so I now rarely get a rejection when I approach. I've learned what to look for to be pretty darned sure I will not get rejected if approached.

I learned all of this back between the ages of 18 and 22. I'm now 46.

Instead I would be much more concerned if whilst dating someone he realised I wasn't for him and that this was a scenario that repeated itself over and over. That would tell me there was something I am doing consistently to turn a guy who liked me off.

For the record I approached my guy who I was with for 14 years, I approached, I asked him out on a first date, I suggested we move in together - although he was kinda hinting..and had been for several months..

 

One guy who I would never approach no matter how attracted I was is the one who gives off the bitter and jaded vibe. You can smell them a mile off.

I know a few guys like this, one I am very attracted to in many ways but his bitter and jaded vibe comes off in normal everyday conversations every single time I see him he is complaining about 'something' and frowning, screwing his face up and looking generally miserable.

When he smiles it's electric - but he rarely ever smiles.

[Zing]

Oh FFS, what can I say. Where to start.. ANd should i bother.. No.

 

Are you overweight or not considered conventionally attractive? Not implying that you are but I'm curious because your posts here are not congruent with reality.

 

I've dated objectively beautiful women (the last one is now getting semi-successful at modelling to give you an idea) and I've seen first hand how women can like a profile on tinder and 95% of the time be matched instantly, and how picky they are, they only like maybe 10% of the men offered to them, they also receive hundreds of messages/emails on a weekly basis.

Edited June 20, 2015 by Zing

[guest569]

Are you overweight or not considered conventionally attractive? Not implying that you are but I'm curious because your posts here are not congruent with reality.

 

Of course you're not implying it.

[Halcyon]

No it doesnt, it makes a few select people look pretty ****ing terrible. DV also affects both genders, women commit it as well. But, again, this is a straw man. We were never discussing sexual/domestic violence. Whats the relevance to the topic?

 

Not straw man showing how absurd it is to have a an argument with someone who refutes anything that doesn't suit their world view aka confirmation bias. You literally just said womens opinions on this matter are not valid.

 

I can at least acknowledge the other side of the argument, hell I've been there myself I still don't think it as bad as many guys make it out to be.

 

It won't change, not until theres a shift in the balance. I cant really say anything about your anecdotal hyperbolic response.

 

Which is happening maybe not at the pace you would like but it is.

 

Ahh here we go, women have it so horrible on a daily basis, why exactly? And why do they need you to tell me how bad it is?

 

In short society. They don't need me to tell you. This is my genuine belief as they happen to be people I care about a lot my sisters, my mother, my GF's past and present, my co-workers all discuss these issues they are important to them. Maybe that is why I have pretty good success with women is because I understand they have been given a ****ty deal in a lot of areas.

 

Also what does my gender have to with the validity of my opinion?

 

That's nice for you i guess. I find dating to be tiring and annoying and it seems many men feel the same. If you wondered why this article sums it up pretty well.

 

I used to find dating frustrating as hell as well. I did something about it.

 

So you're going with my entirely tongue-in-cheek response? You are buying into a victim mentality and its sad.

 

What is sad is the bitter resentfulness that is coming from you. I was there once and as you suggested I used to pity guys like this once. Until I realised most of them had no interest in changing and thus are their own worst enemies when it comes to dating.

 

You didn't, but many women do, and have in this thread. Or is it at all possible that those women are perceiving themselves as providing much more value than they are actually worth. This whole argument is completely dissonant to the other arguements provided earlier by the way. The contradictions are astounding.

 

I don't know why anyone gives this advice as it's generally pretty terrible. So I don't have an answer for that. I don't think its' dissonant, I just noticed a correlation as I improved myself more people kept approaching me. The difference being many guys try to improve themselves for the sole purpose of dating. I do it because I want to.

 

Stop with the strawmans. We arent discussing careers, we are talking dating. They arent related.

 

They are when you dismiss anything that is an inconvenient truth. Once again just pointing out how absurd it is to have an argument with someone who rejects anything that doesn't suit their world view.

 

And dont misrepresent my words to suit your own needs, I never claimed that women don't "experience hard ship". I said that women do not have to respond to rejection by improving themselves at their core. They only need to lose weight, buy some clothes and go out to feel great again.

 

I think you will most women who have been rejected wish it was two denominational to fix their problems as you have suggested. I was more pointing out I certainly hope you don't express these views in public with women you meet because for most of them it would go down like a rock.

 

Due to the options women have breakups do not affect them nearly as badly. Why would it when you can just go out and get sex, affection and attention from mostly any guy.

 

Once again you are assuming they would get attention from men they want. Quantity != quality even so is that really a healthy way to deal with a breakup? I don't think so.

[elaine567]

As approximately 30% of the population are overweight, and most of the guys on here will not give a "fat woman" the time of day, then there must be a lot of women out there partner-less and a lot of women out there who will also receive rejections daily/weekly/monthly too.

 

Or does rejection only matter if you are a man?

 

I guess the jaded attitude seen on those who struggle and the rigidity as to who they will and won't date are factors that make rejection more likely.

The covert/overt misogyny expressed here on LS, I also guess is something most women will sense too.

In order to truly attract women it is necessary to like women and some, by the way they talk here, patently do NOT like women.

Full stop.

 

That is something they need to address and correct, in the same way rejected "fat women" need to address whether their weight is contributing to their lack of dating success too.