d0nnivain Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 While I'm not going to debate the ethics of fake profiles, you have your answer. You thought she wasn't quite the prim & proper girl you met & now you have your suspicions confirmed. You already said your jealous streak was coming out & that you didn't want her to be multi-dating. BTW, if you can't handle multi-daters get off OLD; everybody dates multiple people in the beginning. Anyway you now know that she's not the women you thought (& wanted her to be) and she's a liar. She's also rude -- canceling on you to date someone "better". Me personally I'd be less offended at her if she kept her date with you but rescheduled him for another time. Canceling on you is what annoys me. You had one great date then all this drama. If it's this bad now, the future certainly dosen't bode well
Lois_Griffin Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 The funny thing is, my alter ego John was just me with my filter turned off and not caring so much. John didn't give a crap. Also, as far as looks go I don't think John was that much far ahead of me. The real me is pretty attractive too, just not a 6'2' law student. I know it was messed up thing to do. I did get some answers. I've had successful relationships before. I'm in the military though... knowing these things before I deploy makes a big difference. I already have to worry about getting shot at, I don't need a cheating girlfriend to take my mind off my job and get me killed. Seriously. Forgetting the ruse you're pulling on her with "John," I don't think you're losing out at ALL by cutting ties with this woman. For God's sakes, she's basically agreeing to have casual sex with someone she hasn't even TALKED to, much less met and at least tried to have the decency of some time spent together. I never acted like this when I was young. She sounds stupid and desperate. Personally? I think you dodged a huge bullet. 1
Lois_Griffin Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 " It sounds to me that she was at least initially trying to keep to the date but her arm was twisted. LOL...my ass. How much 'twisting' can one do via the written word? I mean, come on. I still vote that she's a ho. 3
Redhead14 Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 So, I recently had a fantastic first date the other evening, with someone I met on another site. It was an interesting situation because she is a bit older than me, and also native to panama. Absolutely beautiful woman. It was a pretty simple date, I picked here up and we went for a drink and some food. Despite actually having very little in common, we had a very simple but pleasant evening of talking and laughing, and telling each other stories about our lives and what not. When we were finished, I took her back to drop her off at her vehicle where she met me, and leaned in for a quick good night kiss. What started as a good night kiss ended up as a 2 hour plus make-out session and her on top of me with her shirt off. It was awesome, and probably the last thing I expected from her since on the surface she is very prim and proper. Now, we do have tentative plans to meet again. She said she was busy the weekend because she had a graduation party to go to, and Sunday I have duty (military), so we decided most likely monday. Since that first date, I kind of have a whole lot of irrational emotions running through my head now. Normally when I'm dating someone, when it gets to the heavy physical stage, I start asking about exclusivity. But in this situation, it has only been one date. I know it is completely irrational, and she has every right to keep using online dating, but I keep having this jealous feeling in the pit of my stomach when I see her log on. She told me I'm only the second guy she has met since she's even met from online, but I keep having the thought of her seeing other men along with me. I had a bad experience once before, where I was dating someone from online, and slept with her around the 1 month mark. When I brought up exclusivity with her, she said I wasn't the only guy she was seeing, and that since I'd eventually be leaving with the military she'd rather put her eggs in his basket rather than mine, which hit me pretty hard. So, I did something kind of messed up, just to see how she'd respond. My inuition was telling me she wasn't what I thought she was. I created a fake online profile with pictures of a super attractive guy. I made him a tall, charming, smart law student with an edge. I messaged her with "John" and proceeded to talk to her. She responded, and she was reluctant at first, but I pushed and flirted, and told her I wanted to meet her on Monday, the day she said she'd meet the real me. She ended up agreeing. When the real me inquired about the situation, she lied and told me she had a job interview. John continued to flirt with her to see what else he could do. Slowly, John turned on the sexuality, and started asking her questions. The John admitted he didn't want anything serious with her, because he's leaving. John then started saying really dirty things to here. When she had sex last, etc. John told her he could fix her dry spell. She was hesitant at first, but then she agreed it could be fun, and that John could teach her some things. So, she cancelled on me, to meet John for casual sex. I know what I am doing is messed up, but at the same time I'm also glad I did. I'm surprised she is this dumb to not figure it out. You stole your own girl? Geez You know she's dating others so what if she wnats to date "John" now too. Apparently, John was really good at getting her attention and you weren't so good with getting her interested enough in you when you had her right in front of you. Be "JOHN" from now on, I'd say. And, it appears that you two probably aren't on the same page anyway about what you want out of your dating journeys. You seem to be dating for a relationship and she just wants to date casually (with sex). So be it.
elaine567 Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 You already said your jealous streak was coming out & that you didn't want her to be multi-dating. BTW, if you can't handle multi-daters get off OLD; everybody dates multiple people in the beginning. Exactly. This is all rather creepy after one date. Only one date?? Did you really think any girl was going to fall for your charms so much so that after one date that she would resist all the goodies that you threw at her, with your fake profile? She already told you she was seeing another guy, and she effectively dumped you anyway in favour of him. SO What on earth did you think you were doing here? Ugh! 2
Eternal Sunshine Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 I have a hard time believing this story. Any woman that I know that has an OLD profile gets TONS and I mean TONS of sexual messages and offers of casual sex. A lot of these are from extremely attractive guys. We actually try to come up with ways to block any sexual content messages without even looking at a profile. That's how they are. It's hard to believe that a woman would agree to meet for a first-meet casual sex with a creep-o stranger. This sounds like the type of scenario guys from PUA-like forums have in their head as plausible and true but isn't. This is exactly what they think women do. 5
Redhead14 Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 I have a hard time believing this story. Any woman that I know that has an OLD profile gets TONS and I mean TONS of sexual messages and offers of casual sex. A lot of these are from extremely attractive guys. We actually try to come up with ways to block any sexual content messages without even looking at a profile. That's how they are. It's hard to believe that a woman would agree to meet for a first-meet casual sex with a creep-o stranger. This sounds like the type of scenario guys from PUA-like forums have in their head as plausible and true but isn't. This is exactly what they think women do. Well, the truth is that there are some women who do it. And, sometimes post in dating forums about how a man had sex with them and they never heard from them again and/or used them for sex. 1
Gary S Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 It takes a couple months for a woman to fall in love so until that time, until you own her heart, sure, she's open to dating other guys.
MissBee Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 So, I recently had a fantastic first date the other evening, with someone I met on another site. It was an interesting situation because she is a bit older than me, and also native to panama. Absolutely beautiful woman. It was a pretty simple date, I picked here up and we went for a drink and some food. Despite actually having very little in common, we had a very simple but pleasant evening of talking and laughing, and telling each other stories about our lives and what not. When we were finished, I took her back to drop her off at her vehicle where she met me, and leaned in for a quick good night kiss. What started as a good night kiss ended up as a 2 hour plus make-out session and her on top of me with her shirt off. It was awesome, and probably the last thing I expected from her since on the surface she is very prim and proper. Now, we do have tentative plans to meet again. She said she was busy the weekend because she had a graduation party to go to, and Sunday I have duty (military), so we decided most likely monday. Since that first date, I kind of have a whole lot of irrational emotions running through my head now. Normally when I'm dating someone, when it gets to the heavy physical stage, I start asking about exclusivity. But in this situation, it has only been one date. I know it is completely irrational, and she has every right to keep using online dating, but I keep having this jealous feeling in the pit of my stomach when I see her log on. She told me I'm only the second guy she has met since she's even met from online, but I keep having the thought of her seeing other men along with me. I had a bad experience once before, where I was dating someone from online, and slept with her around the 1 month mark. When I brought up exclusivity with her, she said I wasn't the only guy she was seeing, and that since I'd eventually be leaving with the military she'd rather put her eggs in his basket rather than mine, which hit me pretty hard. So, I did something kind of messed up, just to see how she'd respond. My inuition was telling me she wasn't what I thought she was. I created a fake online profile with pictures of a super attractive guy. I made him a tall, charming, smart law student with an edge. I messaged her with "John" and proceeded to talk to her. She responded, and she was reluctant at first, but I pushed and flirted, and told her I wanted to meet her on Monday, the day she said she'd meet the real me. She ended up agreeing. When the real me inquired about the situation, she lied and told me she had a job interview. John continued to flirt with her to see what else he could do. Slowly, John turned on the sexuality, and started asking her questions. The John admitted he didn't want anything serious with her, because he's leaving. John then started saying really dirty things to here. When she had sex last, etc. John told her he could fix her dry spell. She was hesitant at first, but then she agreed it could be fun, and that John could teach her some things. So, she cancelled on me, to meet John for casual sex. I know what I am doing is messed up, but at the same time I'm also glad I did. I'm surprised she is this dumb to not figure it out. You admit what you did was shady, so why is she the dumb and awful one??? You went on ONE date. You've admitted with the reasonable part of your brain that she can see others if she wants. That's what dating is for. It's to explore possibilities before exclusivity. Had you not gone online and pretended to be John and pursued her relentlessly (even though you admit she initially was reluctant to talk to John but you pushed it), then she would have likely met up with you on Monday. Why is she dumb because she didn't expect that her date was online pretending to be another man and pursuing her? I think she's dodged a bullet here and you've ruined any chance at anything with her. I don't suggest in the future that you behave like this. If I go out on a date and I really like a guy, of course I get a little jealous thinking he might be going out with other women, but in the beginning he can, and I can too so I don't bring up exclusivity until we've been seeing each other often then I start asking about what we want and if we want to stop seeing other people. I'm not gonna go on one date with a man and then go online and create a fake profile of a beautiful woman and start charming him...I mean come on. Was John better looking than you? More successful? Lol...if so...you would be the one who made a dumb mistake, because of course after one date if you meet someone else who has a lot going for them you're gonna at least give it a shot....and even if it's for casual sex it's not wrong...you're the one who requires exclusivity for sex, she never said she did. You need to keep your jealousy in check in the future as it will only ruin potential relationships. Your test proved nothing except that you're shady, and she is a normal woman online dating who chose to go meet up with another guy who she's attracted to and charmed by after only having one date with some other guy. 1
Fhsjkfjrhsdh3646 Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 I think the OP is a bit crazy going to those lengths, but now he knows this girl isn't girlfriend material for him. People say he ruined a good thing, I will disagree. If she was potential girlfriend material she wouldn't be cancelling on their plans to go and have casual sex with some guy she hasn't met yet. The OP likely dodged a bullet. If his fake persona didn't come along to snag her, eventually a REAL guy would have and she'd leave him high and dry. That being said I don't endorse him to keep doing this to "test" girls because it's well.... crazy..
the tank Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) You need to fix your jealousy problem. I have a second date tonight with a girl I met online and both of us were going on the website between the date. You cannot ask exclusivity after one date even if you like the girl... Edited June 15, 2015 by the tank
Sameold Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 so you literally just ruined your own date...what the
ascendotum Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) I have a hard time believing this story. Any woman that I know that has an OLD profile gets TONS and I mean TONS of sexual messages and offers of casual sex. A lot of these are from extremely attractive guys. We actually try to come up with ways to block any sexual content messages without even looking at a profile. That's how they are. It's hard to believe that a woman would agree to meet for a first-meet casual sex with a creep-o stranger. This sounds like the type of scenario guys from PUA-like forums have in their head as plausible and true but isn't. This is exactly what they think women do. In the local sports magazine there was an article on one of the young footballers where I live who made a bet with his team mates that he could sleep with 100 women in 100 days. I think he used FB and OKC, but not sure if he supplemented from nite club as well. The article said he won the bet comfortably. It did not say how he proved it for his teammates but I assume date stamped pics of the ladies naked. So while this guy was not quite the total stranger (no big star tho) for all of the women he banged, I don't especially doubt the OP. While the blatant opening sex request msgs for most women get binned pretty quick, I suspect if a good looking guy contacted many women but did not start out that way, but slowly escalated the flirty banter, he would get through the sex pest shields of quite a few. I've also seen the pre-date dirty flirty msgs from some of the guys I know who do/did well with OLD. Edited June 15, 2015 by ascendotum
Survivor12 Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 It is possible that she's not as "dumb" as you think...
joseb Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 LOL...my ass. How much 'twisting' can one do via the written word? I mean, come on. I still vote that she's a ho. Quite a lot. People do it all the time. Look at the success of Tinder. It just takes some good banter and imagination, coupled with an extremely attractive person and a lot of people would fall for it. Not everyone certainly. Calling someone a Ho because she was seduced by a guy online makes a very large percentage of the female population Hos.
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