Snooping - Right or wrong?

[deadelvis]

If you are living your life righteously you should have nothing to hide, from your partner especially. Picture your SO going through your cell phone, computer etc. How would you feel about their "discoveries"? If there are things you wouldn't like them finding, delete that **** and try living your life in a way that is consistent with your own morals. If you are afraid of your secrets being known, then you should make more of an effort to live in accordance with your values.

 

People only hide things they are ashamed of, or things which are dishonest. Clean it up and live better.

[frogs88]

Nothing to hide but some porn and this weirdass website. Would still feel weird if I would get snooped on.

[Davey L]

I feel it's wrong to snoop unless you have strong evidence of wrongdoing. It's like the police needing evidence to get a search warrant to search your house; they can't just go round ransacking everybody's house just for the hell of it.

 

I never look at my wife's emails, go through her 'phone or look in her handbag. If however I had a strong suspicion of an affair I would start snooping but I would try to keep the level of snooping commensurate and proportionate with my level of suspicion.

[Redhead14]

I've seen a lot of people mention snooping being wrong. Even, at times, when someone suspects they're being cheated on.

 

It occurred to me this morning (after hearing my neighbor get chewed out at 7am for cheating on her boyfriend - he read her e-mails) that I couldn't care less if someone was snooping through my things.

 

I never turned this around on myself before when I thought about it. I've never had anything to hide so it doesn't bother me even slightly to think of someone secretly checking my e-mails or whatever. If it went on and on, the person would be in need of some kind of psychological help though because being paranoid in the face of continued evidence that I'm not up to anything wouldn't make any logical sense.

 

Every single ex-boyfriend of mine and even the guy I'm with now says they were cheated on in the past. I knew the guy I'm with now for nearly 20 years and remember him being cheated on with the help of a mutual friend of ours (who we're no longer friends with). I don't know if it's actually true that every one of these guys were cheated on but if they are paranoid because of their past baggage, I couldn't blame them for checking to make sure I'm not cheating on them.

 

Being that I have nothing to hide, it doesn't bother me and is easy to shrug off. Not only that, I think that if someone suspects they are being cheated on, they'd better start snooping for their health and safety because some STD's are permanent. Even if it's not going to make someone severely ill, I wonder how many people could've avoided herpes if they just knew they were being cheated on so they could've protected themselves.

 

I actually know someone who found out she was being cheated on by her husband when she popped up with a case of herpes. Not the way to find out!

 

If someone started reading all of my text messages and e-mails right now, they'd get bored before long. There's just nothing there. And if the same person checked 6 months from now and 2 years from now, it would still be a very boring undertaking. There's nothing to find.

 

Am I the only one that doesn't think it's a big deal?

 

And if you're against snooping, why? I've noticed people who are seem very adamant about it. Why?

 

If it is an established, committed relationship, there should be transparency. If there is some suspicion about something, you open a casual, non-confrontational conversation to "test" the temperature of the relationship. In other words, you say something like "I respect and appreciate our relationship. I've been sensing that something is off between us (or distance) and I want to work together to keep the relationship strong". Is there anything you think we need to address?

 

There is likely some other indicators in the relationship that something is wrong, so you use those indicators to "investigate" first so that you don't have to say you've snooped. Opening a conversation like this will at least give them a heads up that you're paying attention and tap into their conscience. If they become defensive or uncooperative in discussing the relationship, you simply jsut need to say that you suspect something.

[autumnnight]

My boss has permission to snoop on my work computer use.

 

My bank has permission to snoop on my balance.

 

The landlord has permission to ask to do a walk through of my house.

 

My SO has a right to snoop if he feels I am cheating/betraying.

 

However, for example, jay (sorry dude) doesn't have the right to do any of the above, and I do not have the right to do any of the above to RobertZ.

 

Heck, the LS moderators have the right to snoop through my posts and PM's on LS. They do not have the right to snoop into t rest of my life.

 

It's all about context.

 

Oh, and jay, RobertZ, and mods, I love ya all.

[deadelvis]

If it is an established, committed relationship, there should be transparency. If there is some suspicion about something, you open a casual, non-confrontational conversation to "test" the temperature of the relationship. In other words, you say something like "I respect and appreciate our relationship. I've been sensing that something is off between us (or distance) and I want to work together to keep the relationship strong". Is there anything you think we need to address?

 

There is likely some other indicators in the relationship that something is wrong, so you use those indicators to "investigate" first so that you don't have to say you've snooped. Opening a conversation like this will at least give them a heads up that you're paying attention and tap into their conscience. If they become defensive or uncooperative in discussing the relationship, you simply jsut need to say that you suspect something.

 

But what about a situation such as I described... I confide personal details about my thoughts and feelings to my best friend on the other side of the country (he's basically my therapist) which I wouldn't want her to see, mainly because I wouldn't want to hurt her feelings, not because I'm being dishonest... or what about her texting former FWB's and making lot's of sexual inneundos and jokes about their sexual history. Certainly that would hurt my feelings and make me feel depressed if I read it. We are faithful to each other but some things we don't share because we don't want to hurt each other. I realize this is contradictory to my previous statement, and I do believe in complete transparency, but I also understand sometimes we omit things or tell white lies to protect each other and spare each other pain.

[MissBee]

I've seen a lot of people mention snooping being wrong. Even, at times, when someone suspects they're being cheated on.

 

It occurred to me this morning (after hearing my neighbor get chewed out at 7am for cheating on her boyfriend - he read her e-mails) that I couldn't care less if someone was snooping through my things.

 

I never turned this around on myself before when I thought about it. I've never had anything to hide so it doesn't bother me even slightly to think of someone secretly checking my e-mails or whatever. If it went on and on, the person would be in need of some kind of psychological help though because being paranoid in the face of continued evidence that I'm not up to anything wouldn't make any logical sense.

 

Every single ex-boyfriend of mine and even the guy I'm with now says they were cheated on in the past. I knew the guy I'm with now for nearly 20 years and remember him being cheated on with the help of a mutual friend of ours (who we're no longer friends with). I don't know if it's actually true that every one of these guys were cheated on but if they are paranoid because of their past baggage, I couldn't blame them for checking to make sure I'm not cheating on them.

 

Being that I have nothing to hide, it doesn't bother me and is easy to shrug off. Not only that, I think that if someone suspects they are being cheated on, they'd better start snooping for their health and safety because some STD's are permanent. Even if it's not going to make someone severely ill, I wonder how many people could've avoided herpes if they just knew they were being cheated on so they could've protected themselves.

 

I actually know someone who found out she was being cheated on by her husband when she popped up with a case of herpes. Not the way to find out!

 

If someone started reading all of my text messages and e-mails right now, they'd get bored before long. There's just nothing there. And if the same person checked 6 months from now and 2 years from now, it would still be a very boring undertaking. There's nothing to find.

 

Am I the only one that doesn't think it's a big deal?

 

And if you're against snooping, why? I've noticed people who are seem very adamant about it. Why?

 

It's totally your call if you decide snooping works for your relationship.

 

However, I think it's one thing to snoop based on reasonable suspicion and another to simply periodically snoop around in your relationship just to check. Look, for me, I'm not here to massage anyone's paranoia. Just because you were cheated on shouldn't mean that now you get to treat me like a potential cheater even when you have no reason to or have imagined these reasons. We all have our issues and past hurts but it's unfair and unhealthy to use that as justification for putting our current partner through particular things "just in case."

 

For me: if I feel I need to snoop or feel you're cheating then that's ALREADY a problem and signals we need to talk. Snooping simply confirms what you felt OR in the case of the paranoid confirms nothing or in some cases the person may cheat but have covered their tracks so when you snoop you don't find anything...then what? So for me it starts with me feeling that distrustful. If I already feel that way either the relationship has a problem or I do.

 

I have never snooped or felt the need to and as far as I can tell none of the men I've been with have felt it necessary to do that either. They didn't do anything to make me feel I needed to snoop and I didn't do anything to concern them either so a natural trust existed. I could leave my phone, tablet, computer, everything around and so could they, no one was hiding their electronic devices because we didn't have anything to hide and because nothing was there to hide I wasn't clamoring to check anything and neither were they. I don't have time for it and I wouldn't respect a guy who was doing that to me.

[autumnnight]

But what about a situation such as I described... I confide personal details about my thoughts and feelings to my best friend on the other side of the country (he's basically my therapist) which I wouldn't want her to see, mainly because I wouldn't want to hurt her feelings, not because I'm being dishonest... or what about her texting former FWB's and making lot's of sexual inneundos and jokes about their sexual history. Certainly that would hurt my feelings and make me feel depressed if I read it. We are faithful to each other but some things we don't share because we don't want to hurt each other. I realize this is contradictory to my previous statement, and I do believe in complete transparency, but I also understand sometimes we omit things or tell white lies to protect each other and spare each other pain.

 

I agree. For example, a SO might not want to continue to delve into their past if their previous conversations have caused pain.

[Tayla]

 

People only hide things they are ashamed of, or things which are dishonest. Clean it up and live better.

 

Can you clarify this please? Unsure I understand how keeping certain data private is deceptive or even shamefilled. I have numerous pieces of information that if placed in the wrong hands would create a breach of confidentiality in the court of law. It has zero to do with morals or righteous, and everything to do with common regard and respect for privacy.

[deadelvis]

But what about a situation such as I described... I confide personal details about my thoughts and feelings to my best friend on the other side of the country (he's basically my therapist) which I wouldn't want her to see, mainly because I wouldn't want to hurt her feelings, not because I'm being dishonest... or what about her texting former FWB's and making lot's of sexual inneundos and jokes about their sexual history. Certainly that would hurt my feelings and make me feel depressed if I read it. We are faithful to each other but some things we don't share because we don't want to hurt each other. I realize this is contradictory to my previous statement, and I do believe in complete transparency, but I also understand sometimes we omit things or tell white lies to protect each other and spare each other pain.

 

 

although actually, after thinking about this... divulging hurtful details to anyone, even my best friend is a betrayal of her trust, and honestly I know it's wrong. So I guess I will stop doing it. And her having inappropriate (by my definition, we have very different views on the term appropriate) conversations with former FWB's is also a betrayal of my trust. So really I'm not sure I still agree with my last post anymore. We are both doing things which would hurt each other if they were revealed. That's wrong, mainly because it's avoidable and shows a lack of respect for the SO. I guess I should follow my own advice and start living my life like she is a fly on the wall.

[MissBee]

It's one of those things everybody does, but doesn't like to admit.

 

Bad side to it, you might find something there's nothing wrong with, but you didn't really wanna find. I remember a thread last year where a guy went through his girl's computer and found old pics of her and her ex having sex. Lol

 

False.

 

I have NEVER done this.

 

 

Everyone doesn't snoop around for leisure and as a side hobby.

[deadelvis]

Can you clarify this please? Unsure I understand how keeping certain data private is deceptive or even shamefilled. I have numerous pieces of information that if placed in the wrong hands would create a breach of confidentiality in the court of law. It has zero to do with morals or righteous, and everything to do with common regard and respect for privacy.

 

Because we shouldn't hide things from our SO. If you are behaving in a way which is appropriate and respectful there should be no secrets. Obviously if you are a professional in a field like law or medicine thats a bit different, but thats not really relevant. We are talking about personal communications and texts, not doctor patient confidentiality. If you are doing anything in your life what would be hurtful to your SO, perhaps it's time to consider why you are engaging in those behaviors. Posting about my life on LS forum is a good example. If she could read what I've written it would cause her pain. Therefor, it is wrong. Maybe I will stop saying things on this forum which I wouldn't say to her face. Hmmmm...

[MissBee]

I feel it's wrong to snoop unless you have strong evidence of wrongdoing. It's like the police needing evidence to get a search warrant to search your house; they can't just go round ransacking everybody's house just for the hell of it.

 

I never look at my wife's emails, go through her 'phone or look in her handbag. If however I had a strong suspicion of an affair I would start snooping but I would try to keep the level of snooping commensurate and proportionate with my level of suspicion.

 

That was the example I was gonna give as well but couldn't edit in time.

 

 

Similarly, I think it's one thing to snoop based on reasonable suspicion and another to simply periodically snoop around in your relationship just to check. I think of it like police search warrants. The police cannot(shouldn't) search your home or vehicle without a search warrant based on probable cause. They can't just decide to start searching around for no reason. Searches also have to be reasonable and specific and warrants have to specify what they're searching for and where. If the warrant says they need to search your garage they cannot start searching your bedroom and so on. But point is, you have to bring probable cause to the magistrate, and if you don't have that you can't search. I think of it as the same in relationships. I understand maybe having probable cause because I have frozen you out, not communicated, keep coming home late, and am just overall behaving very suspiciously but just as standard practice that you just wake up one day and think "I could be cheated on since my ex cheated, I have no real reason to think MissBee is cheating but who knows, lemme do some snooping around just to make sure...." I think that is paranoid and not conducive to a healthy relationship.

[deadelvis]

However there is a huge flaw in that logic. I do not love my government or the police.

 

In fact I hate them. Not even the same ballpark as a SO.

I feel like that example falls into the same heap as the doctor patient confidentiality comment.

This isn't about legalities. It's about the issues of privacy, transparency and trust. And where those boundaries are drawn in a given relationship

Edited June 9, 2015 by deadelvis

[MissBee]

However there is a huge flaw in that logic. I do not love my government or the police.

In fact I hate them. Not even the same ballpark as a SO.

 

The point of the analogy is a comparison of probable cause for searching/snooping versus no probable cause. That is what is being compared. There is no logical flaw.

 

As I said: snooping based on reasonable suspicion and probable cause is one thing (which is the point of the analogy with search warrants, i.e. they too are obtained based on probable cause and it's not just hmmm....a blue house once had cocaine in it so here's another blue house, let's just dig it up for no reason other than maybe it could have drugs) and snooping as ordinary practice just cause is another.

 

People snooping with probable cause (suspicious behaviors observed, partner's stories stop making sense, they start coming home late, sex stops, various things change and they tried to communicate and it doesn't work etc.) are more understandable and it's akin to having probable cause for a search warrant.

 

People snooping based on nothing other than just because they were cheated on before, just because today is Tuesday, just because they are with someone they just need to look through their stuff for what, I dunno = similar to searching without probable cause and a warrant.

[Tayla]

Snooping- a lose lose situation.

 

IT surely doesn't enhance trust building. For anyone.

 

Curiosity is one thing. Acting upon it is probably not wise in an intimate relationship. Most healthy relations have boundaries not to keep one in the dark but to establish that autonomy.

[deadelvis]

The point of the analogy is a comparison of probable cause for searching/snooping versus no probable cause. That is what is being compared. There is no logical flaw.

 

As I said: snooping based on reasonable suspicion and probable cause is one thing (which is the point of the analogy with search warrants, i.e. they too are obtained based on probable cause and it's not just hmmm....a blue house once had cocaine in it so here's another blue house, let's just dig it up for no reason other than maybe it could have drugs) and snooping as ordinary practice just cause is another.

 

People snooping with probable cause (suspicious behaviors observed, partner's stories stop making sense, they start coming home late, sex stops, various things change and they tried to communicate and it doesn't work etc.) are more understandable and it's akin to having probable cause for a search warrant.

 

People snooping based on nothing other than just because they were cheated on before, just because today is Tuesday, just because they are with someone they just need to look through their stuff for what, I dunno = similar to searching without probable cause and a warrant.

 

Right but to use your metaphor...

 

If you are not breaking the law and a police officer asks to "have a look around" you should have no problem opening the door and letting him look around. Regardless of his reason for being at your house (lets assume he is at the wrong address, people make mistakes) If you are not breaking the law then there is no reason to be worried about him looking around in your house. If you are running a meth-lab out of your garage then you certainly wouldn't want him looking around your house. I'm not an angel in the eyes of the law, so I would NOT want a cop in my house, however this is a metaphor, and the "cop" in this metaphor is your SO, the "house" is your cellphone, and "breaking the law" is violating the trust of your partner. So I wouldn't want a cop in my house because I'm a criminal, but my girlfriend has the passcode to my phone because I'm an honest boyfriend with nothing to hide. If she wants to have a look around, she doesn't need a warrant.

[MissBee]

Right but to use your metaphor...

 

If you are not breaking the law and a police officer asks to "have a look around" you should have no problem opening the door and letting him look around. Regardless of his reason for being at your house (lets assume he is at the wrong address, people make mistakes) If you are not breaking the law then there is no reason to be worried about him looking around in your house. If you are running a meth-lab out of your garage then you certainly wouldn't want him looking around your house. I'm not an angel in the eyes of the law, so I would NOT want a cop in my house, however this is a metaphor, and the "cop" in this metaphor is your SO, the "house" is your cellphone, and "breaking the law" is violating the trust of your partner. So I wouldn't want a cop in my house because I'm a criminal, but my girlfriend has the passcode to my phone because I'm an honest boyfriend with nothing to hide. If she wants to have a look around, she doesn't need a warrant.

 

One can refuse an officer wanting to look through your car/home even if you have nothing to hide, esp if that officer seems to be abusing their power or it's intrusive or inconvenient. It seems your logic (and others') is that the only reason anyone could object a search is because they have something to hide, when that's actually not the only reason. As others have mentioned, it's the principle of the thing, feeling like you aren't trusted etc. that also makes it objectionable and not just whether you really have anything to hide or not.

 

If for example my boyfriend said to me one day when I came home from hanging out with friends, "Can I check your panties for semen?" I mean... while outrageous, by your logic, since I have nothing to hide and no semen will be there, it's perfectly reasonable for him to make this request and the ONLY reason anyone would object to this line of searching is because they are cheating.

 

In my initial response to this thread I already said that I've never been in a relationship with anyone where I was hiding anything or they were and because of that there was also no snooping as neither of us had a reason to snoop. In my relationships as I already mentioned, my phone, tablet, computer all lay around with no passccodes on them and so does my guy's....however at NO POINT do I open his phone, laptop or tablet and start searching around in his email or texts or what have you. It NEVER even crosses my mind to do so. That is what transparency is. Transparency is knowing that all our devices and everything are there and accessible and no one is hiding and trust is, not feeling the need or it even crossing your mind to wait for them to go to the bathroom to start going through their mail and texts.

 

The part that seems to be amiss here is the question of WHY do you feel the need to do it???? Just like your example...if an officer comes to your house and asks to see inside, you'd (plural not you specific) be, and forgive me, a moron, to not ask WHY? It's not about having anything to hide...it's about realizing they must be looking for something so what exactly is is that they think they're looking for? You have a right to know and it's silly that because one has nothing to hide you subject yourself to all kinds of searches without question. If for example they said, we're looking for a fugitive, then I'd say sure have a look if I know no fugitive is inside but likewise, I can also reject this, even if no fugitive is inside if they have no probable cause. The logic that any objection is guilt is what is flawed.

 

Transparency and trust should lead to lessened desire to snoop, that is logical. If you know you can see whatever you want, no one has pass codes and you trust them, the desire to even see anything shouldn't be there. Transparency and trust are not however, to be used as "If you trust me or you're transparent you'll let me look through your stuff..." My bf can look through all my stuff...but please explain WHY on earth should he if he doesn't feel anything is amiss Which goes back to my original point: Snooping in your relationship with probable cause is understandable. Snooping around with no probable cause, just cause it's Tuesday is paranoid and intrusive.

 

Snooping has to be for a reason. Agree or disagree? I don't see why snooping would be for no reason. If you have a reason to snoop that's already a problem and that's akin to probable cause. If you have no reason, you just want to then that's a problem. To each his own, but I have better things to do than dig up in my partner's phone or email for no reason other than it's 3:30pm and if I felt the need to dig around it would either mean I have a problem or the relationship does.

Edited June 9, 2015 by MissBee

[sandylee1]

But what about a situation such as I described... I confide personal details about my thoughts and feelings to my best friend on the other side of the country (he's basically my therapist) which I wouldn't want her to see, mainly because I wouldn't want to hurt her feelings, not because I'm being dishonest... or what about her texting former FWB's and making lot's of sexual inneundos and jokes about their sexual history. Certainly that would hurt my feelings and make me feel depressed if I read it. We are faithful to each other but some things we don't share because we don't want to hurt each other. I realize this is contradictory to my previous statement, and I do believe in complete transparency, but I also understand sometimes we omit things or tell white lies to protect each other and spare each other pain.

 

I'd still feel crushed if I knew my H discussed my physical appearance with anyone. I'd never discuss him like that.

 

When I'm out with girlfriends we occasionally talk about sex and our SOs but I'd never write about it. Not intimate details just how guys are always ready for it.

 

Having worked in law enforcement I'm very careful with what I write. Evidence gets you nailed, not that I've anything to hide.

[deadelvis]

But if the cops went around randomly knocking on doors and searching houses without probable cause, (grateful this is still illegal at least for now) about half this country would be in jail. I don't believe our legal system is just or fair, so I don't agree with this. But the point being, with transparency in regards to our police and government, once they have the ability to tap everyones phone and process that huge amount of information, you'll discover that half of this country is consistently breaking the law.

 

Your boyfriends may not cheat on you or be picking up hookers off craigslist, but I'm sure if you actually went through his phone, tablet, computer etc. you would inevitably find a multitude of things which would hurt your feelings. From conversations with his mom about your housekeeping to text messages with his coworkers about the "hot new girl at work" I promise you, it would make you look at him in a different way than you do now. Does that mean you should snoop? It depends on how much you really want to know about him.

 

How much transparency do you really want? Privacy is a tricky thing. I don't look in my GF's phone because I don't want to see what she talks about with her friends, specifically her male friends who she used to sleep with. Some information is better left in the shadows. But I wish we both lived our lives in a way that we could have complete transparency and be respectful enough to never say or do things which would hurt each other, even behind each others back. If we had that i would ask her to marry me.

 

Similarly, if we lived in a country with fair laws then maybe we could all be law abiding citizens. In that utopian world I would invite the cops in for dinner.

Edited June 9, 2015 by deadelvis

[jay1983]

False.

 

I have NEVER done this.

 

 

Everyone doesn't snoop around for leisure and as a side hobby.

 

I meant people IRL not the internet and who said anything about a hobby?

[hotpotato]

I am pro-snooping. I have snooped before and for good reason. In the future maybe I'd just leave?

 

The risk of snooping is getting beat up. Unfortunately, I've heard the stories. Girl goes through phone, confronts guy with evidence, and bam, domestic violence case happens. I would never go through a man's phone, but I would go through his browser history.

 

I'm glad I did. With this guy in particular, I found out he was looking at was essentially kiddie porn. I always think of this when he asks to take me back. In my case, it helped me stay solid in my decision.

[MissBee]

But if the cops went around randomly knocking on doors and searching houses without probable cause, (grateful this is still illegal at least for now) about half this country would be in jail. I don't believe our legal system is just or fair, so I don't agree with this. But the point being, with transparency in regards to our police and government, once they have the ability to tap everyones phone and process that huge amount of information, you'll discover that half of this country is consistently breaking the law.

 

Your boyfriends may not cheat on you or be picking up hookers off craigslist, but I'm sure if you actually went through his phone, tablet, computer etc. you would inevitably find a multitude of things which would hurt your feelings. From conversations with his mom about your housekeeping to text messages with his coworkers about the "hot new girl at work" I promise you, it would make you look at him in a different way than you do now. Does that mean you should snoop? It depends on how much you really want to know about him.

 

How much transparency do you really want? Privacy is a tricky thing. I don't look in my GF's phone because I don't want to see what she talks about with her friends, specifically her male friends who she used to sleep with. Some information is better left in the shadows. But I wish we both lived our lives in a way that we could have complete transparency and be respectful enough to never say or do things which would hurt each other, even behind each others back. If we had that i would ask her to marry me.

 

Similarly, if we lived in a country with fair laws then maybe we could all be law abiding citizens. In that utopian world I would invite the cops in for dinner.

 

I'm not sure what you're arguing at this point.

 

I don't go through people's phones 'cause nothing is there for me. And yes, I also wouldn't do it because I don't want to find things I'm not looking for, I don't think I need to know every single thing they talk about with other people. It also never really crosses my mind because I'm not suspicious and have no probable cause or reasonable suspicion that anything is awry.

 

Snooping has to be for a reason period. If you just find that it's your habitual practice to check through your SO's stuff you might be controlling or paranoid. As for me, I have never even felt the desire in any of my relationships. I might pick up my guy's phone if mine is far away to check the time or use the calculator app or use the internet...but it's never a thought like "Hmmm he's asleep let me look through his messages and see what he's been saying and who he's been talking to." I don't think like that.

 

If I started to think like that though, my actions would be to have some talks before it even got to that point. But having a mom who is married to a serial cheater who has spent much of her time snooping around...I've watched her and thought "I have NO TIME." You don't trust this man, rightfully, so leave him! But to stay with him and then daily and weekly or whenever act like you work for the FBI is too much for my tastes and I much prefer the peace of mind that comes from a relationship where checking and searching and snooping isn't even a thought.

[MissBee]

I meant people IRL not the internet and who said anything about a hobby?

 

 

Mmmkay.

 

And I assume you are not a real person either, just an internet robot. Alright.

[alphamale]

Mmmkay.

haha thats from south park

 

anyhoo, i think its ok to snoop. mainly cause everyone else does it. you may find something you don't like but you also may get some good info that you can use later on