katiegrl Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 Yes im sure there are fake profiles and whatnot, but they aren't paying people to go out on dates and have sex Okay BC whatever...done arguing with you about it. At 27, you know best I guess....have fun and enjoy! :bunny:
LookAtThisPOst Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 Here's an article of a Florida mom (AND part-time model - Yuliana Avalos)where someone had been using HER pictures on online dating profiles, including Match.com. She sued Match.com for millions.
KSCHV Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 When I was on match messaged easily a couple hundred different women. At first I was slow and somebody told me its a numbers game. Message this one here and there with no dice. So I went off the deep end one night bored. Nice guy approach, compliments, humor, A hole approach, insults across the board with different "women" just to see what worked. I maybe received messages back from two or three which went nowhere. It's a joke in my book.
Cowboysnation Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 So, my 6 month Match membership ended. It was pretty dismal and I had very little success in getting many women to respond to me. But anyway, I was going to renew just because I wanted to go one last round and email a whole bunch of the women I thought were really cute, just to say I did it, but didn't get a chance to, and the monthly fee isn't too bad I guess, even just to sit there and browse. Anyway, I'm in no rush and when I let it lapse, I got an email message from a female profile, my first unsolicited message. I waited a bunch of days, and then re-upped like I planned to. It ended up being a generic email with a generically attractive female profile, and almost a robot like message and when I replied, I got a robot type reply back. So, do you think Match.com uses fake profiles to get lonely guys who have cancelled their subscriptions to reup? Like go around and see which guys get no messages, and then spam them an email after they cancel? Cause that's what it seems like. And if so, woudn't that be illegal? They could potentially make thousands upon thousands of dollars by drawing back disenfranchised men like that. It wouldn't surprise me one bit since the memberships are so expensive and the site probably lost lots of people to free dating sites.
Cowboysnation Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 ALL dating websites do it. OKCupid, POF, etc. If you get a msg from someone who you can see has not viewed your profile, that's how you know they're fake, hired by the site to lure you in. What a scam... Well it's not a problem if it happens on OKC but when you are paying money that's when it gets annoying.
Cowboysnation Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 One guy who sued match..and won....had an entire relationship with a chick hired by the site. Anything to get your money....and they're getting plenty of it too... that's for damn sure. When I tried to sign up years ago and found out it was $70.00 for a 30 day membership I was like no way. lol
Cowboysnation Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 Usually a dead giveaway a profile is fake is when a so called woman says "hey wanna get a drink"
katiegrl Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 (edited) Well it's not a problem if it happens on OKC but when you are paying money that's when it gets annoying. My sentiments exactly! And if you are paying money for a service and this happens...it fraud. And who is to say how low they will stoop to keep paying members coming back and renewing memberships. As I said in a previous post, a few years ago there was a lawsuit filed by a guy who had an entire relationship with a chick hired by the site. In deposition under oath, she admitted she was hired by the site... the case settled after that. I don't know if that type of thing still happens but I wouldn't put it past them.... Edited June 7, 2015 by katiegrl
Cowboysnation Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 My sentiments exactly! And if you are paying money for a service and this happens...it fraud. And who is to say how low they will stoop to keep paying members coming back and renewing memberships. As I said in a previous post, a few years ago there was a lawsuit filed by a guy who had an entire relationship with a chick hired by the site. In deposition under oath, she admitted she was hired by the site... the case settled after that. I don't know if that type of thing still happens but I wouldn't put it past them.... When I see the match.com commercial it just always gave off a fraudulent vibe especially when they promoted marriage.
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted June 7, 2015 Author Posted June 7, 2015 My sentiments exactly! And if you are paying money for a service and this happens...it fraud. And who is to say how low they will stoop to keep paying members coming back and renewing memberships. As I said in a previous post, a few years ago there was a lawsuit filed by a guy who had an entire relationship with a chick hired by the site. In deposition under oath, she admitted she was hired by the site... the case settled after that. I don't know if that type of thing still happens but I wouldn't put it past them.... I'm not sure about Match.com going to those lengths, but I can tell you that if they hired one person to research all the men who got zero to three unsolicited messages from a woman in six months, and they were sent a message after they lapsed, the % of men who would re-up just to see that message are probably 70%+. Think about how much extra revenue that would generate. And you probably only have to pay one person $15/hr part time all year to do that. I'm not sure if they do it, but it would be a whale of a revenue strategy.
katiegrl Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 I'm not sure about Match.com going to those lengths, but I can tell you that if they hired one person to research all the men who got zero to three unsolicited messages from a woman in six months, and they were sent a message after they lapsed, the % of men who would re-up just to see that message are probably 70%+. Think about how much extra revenue that would generate. And you probably only have to pay one person $15/hr part time all year to do that. I'm not sure if they do it, but it would be a whale of a revenue strategy. Yup....unethical marketing strategies.... hard to prove in a court of law however. You better believe match.com has nondisclosure and other contracts they require their employees to sign...they are very well protected. Just be aware that is all one can do. If someone appears too good to be true..or real...he/she probably is. Just sayin...
Fhsjkfjrhsdh3646 Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 Okay BC whatever...done arguing with you about it. At 27, you know best I guess....have fun and enjoy! :bunny: I didn't think we were arguing? I was merely pointing out that there is no financial incentive for Match to hire Women to go on dates (let alone have sex) for $30 members Likewise there wouldn't be any financial incentive for Women to do that (even if they were cool about whoring themselves out) To me its pretty logical, not sure how anyone would argue otherwise Of course these sites do use gimmicks such as fake photos and fake profiles, but that's a lot easier to achieve financially. I agree with you there.
katiegrl Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 I didn't think we were arguing? I was merely pointing out that there is no financial incentive for Match to hire Women to go on dates (let alone have sex) for $30 members Likewise there wouldn't be any financial incentive for Women to do that (even if they were cool about whoring themselves out) To me its pretty logical, not sure how anyone would argue otherwise Of course these sites do use gimmicks such as fake photos and fake profiles, but that's a lot easier to achieve financially. I agree with you there. I don't think they hire people specifically to have sex either....but I would not put it past them to encourage employees to go out on an occasional date...to keep members hopeful that meeting someone beautiful and seemingly perfect *is* possible. So they continue renewing their membership... and spread the good word to others so they will join. Their target members for this are usually men over 50 barcode (that is what I have read)....men who rarely if ever get any dates....so no worries... the chicks you meet are legit...
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted June 7, 2015 Author Posted June 7, 2015 Just be aware that is all one can do. If someone appears too good to be true..or real...he/she probably is. Just sayin... Just to let you know, that isn't even the issue as you cannot see the pics and profile when you are not paid up. All you see is the age and location and that they messaged you. So, you are re-upping just see an unsolicited message from a woman. But I know I'm not terribly unique in that sense, and some other guys would do the same. Like I said I was going to re-up anyway, but the promise of a message pushed it along.
katiegrl Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 Just to let you know, that isn't even the issue as you cannot see the pics and profile when you are not paid up. All you see is the age and location and that they messaged you. So, you are re-upping just see an unsolicited message from a woman. But I know I'm not terribly unique in that sense, and some other guys would do the same. Like I said I was going to re-up anyway, but the promise of a message pushed it along. Yeah that sucks...have you tried the other sites that do not cost money?
Cowboysnation Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 Just to let you know, that isn't even the issue as you cannot see the pics and profile when you are not paid up. All you see is the age and location and that they messaged you. So, you are re-upping just see an unsolicited message from a woman. But I know I'm not terribly unique in that sense, and some other guys would do the same. Like I said I was going to re-up anyway, but the promise of a message pushed it along. And then sometimes you renew and find out the message is from someone with no picture. lol
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted June 7, 2015 Author Posted June 7, 2015 Yeah that sucks...have you tried the other sites that do not cost money? Not yet...
ascendotum Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 Yup....unethical marketing strategies.... hard to prove in a court of law however. You better believe match.com has nondisclosure and other contracts they require their employees to sign...they are very well protected. Just be aware that is all one can do. If someone appears too good to be true..or real...he/she probably is. Just sayin... You could automate a lot or even all of that with code. I thought AFF were the pioneers of this last minute msg when your membership expires scam years ago. They are registered in tax haven I believe that wont worry about consumer protection laws of other countries (not sure about Match..I thought it was owned by a big US coy) and they hire people to write messages in 3rd world call centers, who wont care and just want to make a buck, so I read in an article.
Art_Critic Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 Here's an article of a Florida mom (AND part-time model - Yuliana Avalos)where someone had been using HER pictures on online dating profiles, including Match.com. She sued Match.com for millions. that woman is a scammer... 1.5 billion Yuliana Avalos, Miami Bikini Model Suing Match.com for $1.5 Billion, Has Shady Online Connections | Miami New Times
Gaeta Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 Say what you want, I've dated a lot of hot women on Match, the site works well. Compared to any other dating pool, I think you really have the opportunity to date-up on Match. Depends where you are. Where I am from match is useless. I was on it for 1 month and I only got scams emails always the same story, widow dad raising his kids on his own and happens to be on a military tour at the time.
Gary S Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 Their target members for this are usually men over 50 barcode (that is what I have read)....men who rarely if ever get any dates....so no worries... the chicks you meet are legit... - Katie.... men over 50 have the easiest time dating (as long as they have game), there is less competition (not as many men over 50).
katiegrl Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 (edited) - Katie.... men over 50 have the easiest time dating (as long as they have game), there is less competition (not as many men over 50). Gary...I am going to say the same thing to you as I said to barcode. This is not ***MY*** theory or speculation. I am only repeating what I have read in various articles published in reputable newspapers like The Wall Street Journal, Huffington Post, among others written by reputable reporters who have conducted tons of research about the subject. And their research dictates via interviews with men over 50 who use OLD as their main source of meeting women, and the numerous lawsuits filed by men over 50 who HAVE, IN FACT, been scammed....that THIS *is* happening. The scams are mostly committed by women wanting money but there are other scams out there as well... fake profiles, fake dates, etc. that target men 50+ to maintain their accounts. 50+ men have money, are lonely, vulnerable (for the most part) and Match knows this...and uses it to their advantage to keep them coming back and renewing memberships. I don't know why you and barcode are so adverse to believing that this happens. For god's sake it's marketing, not ethical of course, but all or most large companies engage in unethical marketing strategies and I think it is extremely naive to believe otherwise. In any event, I am not making this stuff up based on some theory I have dreamed up in my head....okay? This stuff IS happening...so it is best to just accept it happens and be aware so it doesn't happen to you! Edited June 7, 2015 by katiegrl
Cowboysnation Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 Gary...I am going to say the same thing to you as I said to barcode. This is not ***MY*** theory or speculation. I am only repeating what I have read in various articles published in reputable newspapers like The Wall Street Journal, Huffington Post, among others written by reputable reporters who have conducted tons of research about the subject. And their research dictates via interviews with men over 50 who use OLD as their main source of meeting women, and the numerous lawsuits filed by men over 50 who HAVE, IN FACT, been scammed....that THIS *is* happening. The scams are mostly committed by women wanting money but there are other scams out there as well... fake profiles, fake dates, etc. that target men 50+ to maintain their accounts. 50+ men have money, are lonely, vulnerable (for the most part) and Match knows this...and uses it to their advantage to keep them coming back and renewing memberships. I don't know why you and barcode are so adverse to believing that this happens. For god's sake it's marketing, not ethical of course, but all or most large companies engage in unethical marketing strategies and I think it is extremely naive to believe otherwise. In any event, I am not making this stuff up based on some theory I have dreamed up in my head....okay? This stuff IS happening...so it is best to just accept it happens and be aware so it doesn't happen to you! I would hope a man is smart enough to know when he gets a robotic message and if he is not then that;s kind of sad.
katiegrl Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 I would hope a man is smart enough to know when he gets a robotic message and if he is not then that;s kind of sad. Yes it IS very sad....but the sad truth is I that there are ALOT of very lonely people seeking love on line...who are vulnerable and ready to believe anything in exchange for some affection from the opposite sex. Yes very sad indeed, breaks my heart to read about it, even on this forum.
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