katiegrl Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) LOL, match does not hire actors.... they are Nigerian boileroom scammers. If you don't want to deal with the scammers try POF, POF deletes their accounts 10 times quicker. No they hire regular folk who want to make a little money (or ALOT) of money on the side...and who don't give a crap who they hurt in the process. Do your research. Lawsuits up the ying yang, articles written by women hired by the site, etc. It DOES work..as many people have gotten married too. Maybe even more than get scammed, I don't know. They have millions of members. Who dole out a lot of money each year to remain members. But be aware....that is all I am saying. It would be naive not to. Edited June 6, 2015 by katiegrl
Gary S Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 Lawsuits don't prove anything, anybody can file a lawsuit. A lot of people have poor attitudes and blame their lack of success on everything else but themselves - the dating site, the employees, the world, lol I have heard of stories of workers. I don't know if they were on match or not though. All I have ever seen are Nigerian boileroom scammers.... I've seen those on many sites, we've played with them before. I was talking to one on a dating site once, knew it was a scammer because he had model pics... I let my wing-woman pose as me and write him and play with him for awhile, I did not feel like playing, lol The Nigerian scammers are easy to spot... they ask for your email. Marc Katz tells women to ask for email address from men too. Great, let's make women look like Nigerian scammers.... Brilliant - not!
katiegrl Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 Lawsuits don't prove anything, anybody can file a lawsuit. A lot of people have poor attitudes and blame their lack of success on everything else but themselves - the dating site, the employees, the world, lol I have heard of stories of workers. I don't know if they were on match or not though. All I have ever seen are Nigerian boileroom scammers.... I've seen those on many sites, we've played with them before. I was talking to one on a dating site once, knew it was a scammer because he had model pics... I let my wing-woman pose as me and write him and play with him for awhile, I did not feel like playing, lol The Nigerian scammers are easy to spot... they ask for your email. Marc Katz tells women to ask for email address from men too. Great, let's make women look like Nigerian scammers.... Brilliant - not! Google match.com fraud.
Gary S Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 Katie, I've seen it before.... the vast majority of the complaints are whiners. Lot's of conspiracy theories out there. And you can find plenty of bad reviews for other big companies in other businesses too. Don't believe everything you read, don't believe it unless you see it with your own eyes. Besides, the vast majority of scammers or fakes are going to be out of town, if not in another state. If you are a smart dater, that should be a red flag by itself. LDR does not work. The biggest problem is not Match, not by a long-shot - it's people with poor attitudes. That's the reason many of them are single, it's not a desirable trait.
aloneinaz Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 Say what you want, I've dated a lot of hot women on Match, the site works well. Compared to any other dating pool, I think you really have the opportunity to date-up on Match. I've had plenty of great dates on Match and a couple of relationships as well. I've seen plenty of REAL people I know on the site and also am aware of many marriage from people meeting on it. I think Match is a step up from POF as far as quality. If someone is paying to be on a dating site, it means they are serious about meeting someone. I often wonder why guys and girls report back not having much success on dating sites? I think it's the absolute best way to meet partners in todays times vs. trolling bars or clubs.. 1
Fleur de cactus Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 Yes all dating websites do this. If I stay away from the website for a while, I get some emails saying someone added me as his favorite, or he messaged me, log in to see his profile!! Scam! when I log in, the profile was deleted!! Wait a minute! within a minute!! Or you responded and no response! It means it was a fake message. That is how they get money!! Scam!!
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted June 6, 2015 Author Posted June 6, 2015 I often wonder why guys and girls report back not having much success on dating sites? I think it's the absolute best way to meet partners in todays times vs. trolling bars or clubs.. Everybody's experiences are different. I walked in with an open mind, but the results were just not good despite making several tweaks. I can't say the results were good because they weren't. But I re-upped to give it another chance.
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted June 6, 2015 Author Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) Changed my mind. No post..... Edited June 6, 2015 by JuneJulySeptember
aloneinaz Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 Everybody's experiences are different. I walked in with an open mind, but the results were just not good despite making several tweaks. I can't say the results were good because they weren't. But I re-upped to give it another chance. You may ask someone of the opposite sex to view your profile and pictures for a critique. I know I've helped some friends with there profiles and that had better results. I have a female friend who wasn't having luck. I looked at her profile. Her pictures were terrible and her profile made her come off as a bitch. We took some new pictures and re-wrote her profile and she suddenly started getting a lot more attention. Some people are simply lazy when they join a dating site. The put $hit for effort in their pictures or what they write about themselves in their profiles. People need to understand that you're selling yourself or marketing yourself on these sites.
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted June 6, 2015 Author Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) You may ask someone of the opposite sex to view your profile and pictures for a critique. I know I've helped some friends with there profiles and that had better results. I have a female friend who wasn't having luck. I looked at her profile. Her pictures were terrible and her profile made her come off as a bitch. We took some new pictures and re-wrote her profile and she suddenly started getting a lot more attention. Some people are simply lazy when they join a dating site. The put $hit for effort in their pictures or what they write about themselves in their profiles. People need to understand that you're selling yourself or marketing yourself on these sites. I've already done that. I've changed my profile pic twice. And it doesn't matter because this thread was not intended to help JuneJulySeptember get a date. It was on the subject of does Match.com create fake profiles to help lure you back in? Edited June 6, 2015 by JuneJulySeptember
kendahke Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 I'm not sure about fake but inactive absolutely. . Fake. I counted 27 fake profiles on different sites using the exact same profile verbage with different pictures today. 6 of them were on Match.
kendahke Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 I've already done that. I've changed my profile pic twice. And it doesn't matter because this thread was not intended to help JuneJulySeptember get a date. It was on the subject of does Match.com create fake profiles to help lure you back in? they certainly allow them to exist on their site; whether the people who run Match are the ones doing it certainly looks that way, but they also do not do nearly enough due diligence to make sure that identity theft isn't their currency.
kendahke Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 Besides, the vast majority of scammers or fakes are going to be out of town, if not in another state. If you are a smart dater, that should be a red flag by itself. LDR does not work. they should be willing within a month to skype/facetime with you if it's starting out as an LDR. I've had a scammer tell me they live close by (25 miles away), but refused to meet me--they were going out of town in 2 days and couldn't meet up for a quick coffee. I had to lay a trap in order to find out where they were.
kendahke Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 Say what you want, I've dated a lot of hot women on Match, the site works well. Compared to any other dating pool, I think you really have the opportunity to date-up on Match. It may have worked out well in your favor because women are more likely to buy a subscription on the site in order to correspond than men are. In my experience, the men I've messaged never messaged me back--they looked at my profile, but never wrote a word, so they were most likely skating on the free tip and didn't want to spend their money on a subscription. Same goes for men in general. I see them looking, but they don't send me a message. I let my subscription on there lapse. It's not worth the aggravation. I've had my best luck on OKC. One thing, though--if someone doesn't meet my criteria, they get sent to the filtered folder and unless I'm on my computer, I cannot access the filtered folder from my phone or iPad. Sometimes I go weeks without signing on on my computer at home to look at the site. I do it mainly with my devices.
petsrule Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 I often wonder why guys and girls report back not having much success on dating sites? I think it's the absolute best way to meet partners in todays times vs. trolling bars or clubs.. The problem is (particularly on eharmony, in my experience) is that when we send the first message 9 times out of 10 the person we sent the message to doesn't respond. 1
Fhsjkfjrhsdh3646 Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) How do you KNOW? These girls...and guys.....are good! And they're paid big bucks for being good too. Not saying that last chick was a fraud. I have no idea...but it's a possibility. I mean, the perfect face, hot body. all the PDA, the hot sex (the best you ever had?), and then the next date she turns her cheek? Then when you end it...she says "hope you find what you're looking for"? Some chicks really are too good to be true. Just sayin....it's possible because again it does happen, more often than you think. Katie, if you get a date with someone they're real just like everyone else. Any lawsuits are probably due to some whiney idiot who is 36 and a virgin and trying to blame the world for his problems. Let's do some math, I pay 30 for a match membership for a few months... Yet a girl will get paid thousands to go date members who bring in 30 bucks? Please.... And yes they'd have to be paid well If they're ****ing me all night long, an Escort would get like 1-2 grand for that kind of work. See the holes in your theory? Lol. The girls that I've dated (and others) are other normal (or not so normal) people. Yes all dating websites do this. If I stay away from the website for a while, I get some emails saying someone added me as his favorite, or he messaged me, log in to see his profile!! Scam! when I log in, the profile was deleted!! Wait a minute! within a minute!! Or you responded and no response! It means it was a fake message. That is how they get money!! Scam!! You realize scammers also favorite people to get them to contact them usually to get them to a porn/webcam pay site? The OLD service usually deletes those profiles. It's not an OLD method to get your money. You wouldn't resub just because someone favorited you now would you? Edited June 6, 2015 by barcode88
aloneinaz Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 Katie, if you get a date with someone they're real just like everyone else. Any lawsuits are probably due to some whiney idiot who is 36 and a virgin and trying to blame the world for his problems. Let's do some math, I pay 30 for a match membership for a few months... Yet a girl will get paid thousands to go date members who bring in 30 bucks? Please.... And yes they'd have to be paid well If they're ****ing me all night long, an Escort would get like 1-2 grand for that kind of work. See the holes in your theory? Lol. The girls that I've dated (and others) are other normal (or not so normal) people. You realize scammers also favorite people to get them to contact them usually to get them to a porn/webcam pay site? The OLD service usually deletes those profiles. It's not an OLD method to get your money. You wouldn't resub just because someone favorited you now would you? We tried Barcode. I know far to many folks who like Match and have had many great dates or relationships from it. Sure, there's going to be haters and folks who don't know how to play the OLD game. I just know many average looking folks who have no problems meeting up with folks which is why I get so puzzled when people post how much they hate Match or OLD sites. To get back on point, I've never seen anything outlandish from Match nor have I ever gotten any other luring types of emails to get me back on there.
katiegrl Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) Fair enough barcode ....except you got one thing wrong. It is not MY "theory." And I never said it was my *theory*. I am only conveying what I have read...on the internet, in the news (the WSJ reputable enough for ya?).... and reading the several lawsuits that were filed against match.com throughout the years. I am a legal assistant, remember? So I have access to court records, etc. And match.com settles these lawsuits which says something right there. Also, if you (or any member) pay $30.00 per month (higher in some areas) x 12 = $360.00 per year. Multiply that by 10 million members (not everyone on the site is a paying member) then we are talking A LOT of money! And by doing what they do, planting fake profiles and members, not only do you continue subscribing, but you're telling others how *successful* you are also (just like you are doing here) which results in *them* becoming paying members too...which increases their profits even more!!! It's called marketing. And trust me, with all the the billions they make, they can afford to pay someone a few hundred dollars to email you and perhaps even go out on a few dates with you....to keep you hopeful that your *special* someone IS out there. Like I said, these folks are regular folks with regular jobs...who wish to make a few extra bucks on the side. But hey...I am sure you are right. Chances of someone you meet being a fraud is probably very rare....so nevermind. I did not mean to rile you (if I did). I just don't trust paying sites like match. I do happen to think they are a fraud (although again I do acknowledge it works great for many people). It is not my theory... it is my opinion based on everything I have read, and all the many many lawsuits filed...which I am sure are baseless in many cases...but probably not all. If you are happy with it, that is all that matters.Good luck! Edited June 6, 2015 by katiegrl
Art_Critic Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 I just don't trust paying sites like match. I do happen to think they are a fraud (although again I do acknowledge it works great for many people). I didn't trust them either when I used them, eharmony would recycle old non paying members to match you with.. I never had a date on eharmony I was happy with.. Match on the other hand.. I had many relationships off of match.. some lasted more than a year and I also met my wife on match and we have been married almost 8 years... You don't have to agree with the company's business practice to use the service and the service works.. I'm only one of many many people I know who met their BF,GF or wife/husband on match.. I do believe they market themselves in many of the manners that have been discussed here but who cares if they are providing a product that works on the whole. I think it is how you use the service and the expectations the person sets.. many people think they can send a few emails and get married in a few weeks..or at least that is the impression they give me.. Online dating took me years to find my wife.. but it certainly was worth the money spent and even spent along the way to finding her 1
katiegrl Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 I didn't trust them either when I used them, eharmony would recycle old non paying members to match you with.. I never had a date on eharmony I was happy with.. Match on the other hand.. I had many relationships off of match.. some lasted more than a year and I also met my wife on match and we have been married almost 8 years... You don't have to agree with the company's business practice to use the service and the service works.. I'm only one of many many people I know who met their BF,GF or wife/husband on match.. I do believe they market themselves in many of the manners that have been discussed here but who cares if they are providing a product that works on the whole. I think it is how you use the service and the expectations the person sets.. many people think they can send a few emails and get married in a few weeks..or at least that is the impression they give me.. Online dating took me years to find my wife.. but it certainly was worth the money even along the way. I am actually very happy to hear it worked for you!! I know of couples who met on match.com too...so as I said I know it works...or they would not be making billions of dollars each year!
Art_Critic Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 I am actually very happy to hear it worked for you!! I know of couples who met on match.com too...so as I said I know it works...or they would not be making billions of dollars each year! yeah, so true .. I will say though that because of my finding my wife on match and having a wonderful 7 year old little boy today I have to say it works and was money well spent Of course my bias is obvious, but that doesn't negate my story.. hopefully..
Fhsjkfjrhsdh3646 Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 Fair enough barcode ....except you got one thing wrong. It is not MY "theory." And I never said it was my *theory*. I am only conveying what I have read...on the internet, in the news (the WSJ reputable enough for ya?).... and reading the several lawsuits that were filed against match.com throughout the years. I am a legal assistant, remember? So I have access to court records, etc. And match.com settles these lawsuits which says something right there. Also, if you (or any member) pay $30.00 per month (higher in some areas) x 12 = $360.00 per year. Multiply that by 10 million members (not everyone on the site is a paying member) then we are talking A LOT of money! And by doing what they do, planting fake profiles and members, not only do you continue subscribing, but you're telling others how *successful* you are also (just like you are doing here) which results in *them* becoming paying members too...which increases their profits even more!!! It's called marketing. And trust me, with all the the billions they make, they can afford to pay someone a few hundred dollars to email you and perhaps even go out on a few dates with you....to keep you hopeful that your *special* someone IS out there. Like I said, these folks are regular folks with regular jobs...who wish to make a few extra bucks on the side. But hey...I am sure you are right. Chances of someone you meet being a fraud is probably very rare....so nevermind. I did not mean to rile you (if I did). I just don't trust paying sites like match. I do happen to think they are a fraud (although again I do acknowledge it works great for many people). It is not my theory... it is my opinion based on everything I have read, and all the many many lawsuits filed...which I am sure are baseless in many cases...but probably not all. If you are happy with it, that is all that matters.Good luck! Yes im sure there are fake profiles and whatnot, but they aren't paying people to go out on dates and have sex
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