Lernaean_Hydra Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 Yes, disgruntled "settlers" make very poor partners. The hurt they cause to those who genuinely care for them, is distressing to witness and hell to experience first hand. Absolutely. And I forgot to add the worst bit which is the fact that some seem to genuinely feel those they "settled" for should feel grateful - and I mean express genuine gratitude - that they deigned to settled for them in the first place. 1
Timshel Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 Abbott and Costello did a comic routine that went something like this: Costello: Hey, Abbott, I think I'm going to marry an ugly girl. Abbott: Why is that? Costello: Because a pretty girl might run away. Abbott: That's silly, an ugly girl could run away too. Costello: Yeah, but who cares? She may be ugly on the outside, but beautiful on the inside. When you get to see that side of her, you'll see her that way on the outside. There are tons of women who are beautiful, but ugly on the inside. That is part of the reason you see so many beautiful women who are single. Haha! Yes and gorgeous men who are unbearable as well. Some beautiful women remain single because they want a 'real' connection. They don't want to settle only to be partnered up and will bypass many before falling for someone who is right for them. A person's attractiveness doesn't necessarily correlate with who they choose. 'Unattractive' people can be shallow too! 1
Villainous Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 It isn't a matter of confidence or happiness. It has to do with the OP learning to settle for normal, and that the majority of "beautiful" women are in fact just normal or "ugly" when they aren't all made-up. Wow you're quite the charmer aren't you! I know i am confident and happy with myself, with or without makeup, which I hardly ever wear. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and everyone has their different opinions on it.
Emmie83 Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 It isn't a matter of confidence or happiness. It has to do with the OP learning to settle for normal, and that the majority of "beautiful" women are in fact just normal or "ugly" when they aren't all made-up. Obviously we look at things differently. Regardless of makeup or not, as I said before, it's all in the eyes of the beholder. What you perceive as 'ugly', someone else will see as beautiful. And again, confidence and happiness within yourself can get you what you want. It is something that I have always valued and been attracted to in a man regardless of looks. The OP should definitely join social groups rather than the bar/club scene and and I think the word ugly to describe someone's looks is heinous. I am more than happy to use that word with people that do bad things....because that is what they are inside, but otherwise it's just plain nasty.
Lernaean_Hydra Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 It isn't a matter of confidence or happiness. It has to do with the OP learning to settle for normal, and that the majority of "beautiful" women are in fact just normal or "ugly" when they aren't all made-up. Oh, back with this again? Yes, yes we know, most women are ugly. *yawn* 1
Villainous Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 Obviously we look at things differently. Regardless of makeup or not, as I said before, it's all in the eyes of the beholder. What you perceive as 'ugly', someone else will see as beautiful. Agreed, but as was pointed out by a previous poster, there are standards of beauty that transcend individual personal opinion, which is why you can find people that are generally regarded as "beautiful" by many members of the opposite sex, and vice versa. And again, confidence and happiness within yourself can get you what you want. It is something that I have always valued and been attracted to in a man regardless of looks.You were referring to yourself though originally, in regard to being confident without wearing makeup. While confidence is an attractive feature to females, it does almost nothing for males. We generally don't care how confident you are, what career you have, etc. We're mostly looking at your face and body. I know i am confident and happy with myself, with or without makeup, which I hardly ever wear.
Villainous Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 Oh, back with this again? Yes, yes we know, most women are ugly. *yawn* Sorry! Didn't mean to wake you.
Leigh 87 Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 By the way, On behalf of all women that aren't beauties. We won't settle for you, either. We can find a guy who is very attracted to us and feels lucky to have us.
empresario Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 Obviously we look at things differently. Regardless of makeup or not, as I said before, it's all in the eyes of the beholder. What you perceive as 'ugly', someone else will see as beautiful. And again, confidence and happiness within yourself can get you what you want. It is something that I have always valued and been attracted to in a man regardless of looks. The OP should definitely join social groups rather than the bar/club scene and and I think the word ugly to describe someone's looks is heinous. I am more than happy to use that word with people that do bad things....because that is what they are inside, but otherwise it's just plain nasty. True, beauty is relative. There are definitely sociological factors that makes one more appealing than another! But here I go being a scientist again... However, don't take that as me agreeing with the prior poster. Anyone that considers everyone 'average' in their own eyes should probably investigate their own potential homosexuality or get checked out by a professional for narcissism.
spiderowl Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) I know some really good-looking guys. These guys are great characters. They have talents, social skills, well-paid professions. They are nice to know as well. Their girlfriends are not strikingly beautiful at all; they are lovely characters and so attractive because of it. Attractiveness is not about beauty - it can be part of it but it doesn't have to be. I think once you start to understand that, you may have more luck. Some shallow guys may go for beautiful women. Some of those beautiful women may be more than just good looking - I'm certainly not judging them. The guys I know who are incredibly attractive chose women who have many qualities but are not 'beautiful' in appearance by 'Hello' magazine standards. They wouldn't stand out in a crowd, but when you talk to them you are totally charmed and interested in what they have to say. The guys I am thinking of have life experience and success; they also know what really matters. Edited June 15, 2015 by spiderowl 1
Emmie83 Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 I know some really good-looking guys. These guys are great characters. They have talents, social skills, well-paid professions. They are nice to know as well. Their girlfriends are not strikingly beautiful at all; they are lovely characters and so attractive because of it. Attractiveness is not about beauty - it can be part of it but it doesn't have to be. I think once you start to understand that, you may have more luck. Some shallow guys may go for beautiful women. Some of those beautiful women may be more than just good looking - I'm certainly not judging them. The guys I know who are incredibly attractive chose women who have many qualities but are not 'beautiful' in appearance by 'Hello' magazine standards. They wouldn't stand out in a crowd, but when you talk to them you are totally charmed and interested in what they have to say. The guys I am thinking of have life experience and success; they also know what really matters. Well said!
Krieger Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 I know some really good-looking guys. These guys are great characters. They have talents, social skills, well-paid professions. They are nice to know as well. Their girlfriends are not strikingly beautiful at all; they are lovely characters and so attractive because of it. Attractiveness is not about beauty - it can be part of it but it doesn't have to be. I think once you start to understand that, you may have more luck. Some shallow guys may go for beautiful women. Some of those beautiful women may be more than just good looking - I'm certainly not judging them. The guys I know who are incredibly attractive chose women who have many qualities but are not 'beautiful' in appearance by 'Hello' magazine standards. They wouldn't stand out in a crowd, but when you talk to them you are totally charmed and interested in what they have to say. The guys I am thinking of have life experience and success; they also know what really matters. That good for them but if she does not have it all looks and lovely characters I am not interested. If woman want it all why cant I want it all? Woman want men that make good money, and be good looking ,and have it all . One of the reason I am going back to college is so I can date better looking woman . I just got sick of dating ugly woman with nothing going for them and to be fair I did not have much going for me so I cant knock them for that. Now days I have thing going for me and getting my stuff together. When I say ugly I mean in the face .
Emmie83 Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 That good for them but if she does not have it all looks and lovely characters I am not interested. If woman want it all why cant I want it all? Woman want men that make good money, and be good looking ,and have it all . One of the reason I am going back to college is so I can date better looking woman . I just got sick of dating ugly woman with nothing going for them and to be fair I did not have much going for me so I cant knock them for that. Now days I have thing going for me and getting my stuff together. When I say ugly I mean in the face . Wow! Shallow... Why do you have the perception that women only want men with looks and money?
jay1983 Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 Wow! Shallow... Why do you have the perception that women only want men with looks and money? IDK I have no idea where anybody got that idea. Lol 2
Krieger Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 Wow! Shallow... Why do you have the perception that women only want men with looks and money? I lot of women when looking for a man want security and they feel that men with money will give them that security. Men go for the hottest woman he can afford, women go for the most successful man she can attract. Successful men have more dating opportunities compared to the opposite.
Emmie83 Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 I lot of women when looking for a man want security and they feel that men with money will give them that security. Men go for the hottest woman he can afford, women go for the most successful man she can attract. Successful men have more dating opportunities compared to the opposite. That's a pretty one sided and warped view. I don't rely on a man for money and I don't base my relationships solely around looks and neither do any of my female friends. You comments sound like you think that all women are gold diggers.
Krieger Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 IDK I have no idea where anybody got that idea. Lol Studies have shown that some women will rate a man higher on a 1-10 scale based solely on how much money he makes. Women are Biologically More Attracted to Social Status. Mythbusters tested this premise in the recent episode "laws of attraction" and found it confirmed. Women are more attracted to financially successful men. The Build Team invited a group of 250 women to the Roxy Theater in San Francisco and showed them pictures of 12 men, with names, locations, and actual occupations. The women rated each man on a 1-10 scale, after which the team presented the same pictures again, but with more lucrative occupations shown for half of the men. In the first test, the men earned an average rating of 56 out of 120, while the men with changed occupations earned 68 out of 120 in the second. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters_%282014_season%29#Money_Talk.24 One last thing if i had more money I could afford to go out and do things and meet people so it not all about money but going out I have more opportunities to meet woman. 1
johan Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 so i could settle for an unattractive but polite girl with a good attitude. it has an advantage...she gets little attention from men, she will actually pay attention to you. unattractive women also tend to be less self absorbed and arrogant. they havent been spoiled by all the attention. That's the foundation of love right there. "I'm with you because I find you unattractive, so you can't afford to be arrogant and I don't have to worry about you getting attention from other guys." 1
Emmie83 Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 That's the foundation of love right there. "I'm with you because I find you unattractive, so you can't afford to be arrogant and I don't have to worry about you getting attention from other guys." Off point, but omg that made me laugh
Krieger Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 That's a pretty one sided and warped view. I don't rely on a man for money and I don't base my relationships solely around looks and neither do any of my female friends. You comments sound like you think that all women are gold diggers. All I said is money matters to woman and it should . A woman should not date a guy that has less than her and same goes for men should not date woman with less than him. I work a dead end retail job and do not make any money there is no way in hell a woman with a career and a college degree from a university will give me the time of day. Why would she? I am going back to college so I can move up the social ladder and have more options in woman to date. Yes I will be making more money but it not like I am going to become rich . I will how ever be moving on up to the East side LOL it a better place to raise children and the best schools. It is just the median income for a family was $104,839 take home. I do want to live on the island but median household income is $140,020 take home.
Author mongo Posted June 16, 2015 Author Posted June 16, 2015 That's the foundation of love right there. "I'm with you because I find you unattractive, so you can't afford to be arrogant and I don't have to worry about you getting attention from other guys." love is for little girls. its not real only fantasy in the mind
Krieger Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 love is for little girls. its not real only fantasy in the mind Love is real but true love is a fantasy.
Emmie83 Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 All I said is money matters to woman and it should . A woman should not date a guy that has less than her and same goes for men should not date woman with less than him. I work a dead end retail job and do not make any money there is no way in hell a woman with a career and a college degree from a university will give me the time of day. Why would she? I am going back to college so I can move up the social ladder and have more options in woman to date. Yes I will be making more money but it not like I am going to become rich . I will how ever be moving on up to the East side LOL it a better place to raise children and the best schools. It is just the median income for a family was $104,839 take home. I do want to live on the island but median household income is $140,020 take home. Why would she not?! Money should never be a factor in love or the dating game. It's irrelevant as far as that goes. I don't care if I earn more or less then a significant other. It's the person within himself or herself (for your case) that matters most. And why the need to move up a 'social ladder'? If people aren't so accepting of you as you are in yourself/life, then they are not worth the time of day. Be worthy of yourself! And Yes...definitely go back to college/uni and do something that makes you feel accomplished, but definitely not to get a woman. 1
Krieger Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 Why would she not?! Money should never be a factor in love or the dating game. It's irrelevant as far as that goes. I don't care if I earn more or less then a significant other. It's the person within himself or herself (for your case) that matters most. And why the need to move up a 'social ladder'? If people aren't so accepting of you as you are in yourself/life, then they are not worth the time of day. Be worthy of yourself! And Yes...definitely go back to college/uni and do something that makes you feel accomplished, but definitely not to get a woman. Well a lot of my issues have to deal with my low self worth and self esteem . I worked on it and now I have to be the best man I can be and not be happy at a dead end job. It sucks feeling like I have noting to offer but I know I do.
Emmie83 Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 Well a lot of my issues have to deal with my low self worth and self esteem . I worked on it and now I have to be the best man I can be and not be happy at a dead end job. It sucks feeling like I have noting to offer but I know I do. Everyone has something to offer to a partner and that's usually unconditional love and emotional support. If someone is a gold digger, they're not worth the time of day. Also, you don't have to be in the best paying job, have the best education or come from a particular family to get that 'one'....you just have to be yourself and don't second guess what you have and what you think someone wants. Work on your self esteem Mr. You know you're better than that
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