PogoStick Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 (edited) Just date Asian and Latina women. Problem solved. A good male friend of mine is tiny (by my standards since I'm 6'2). I'm sure he's under 5'6 and maybe 135 lbs, not muscular, jewish. He doesn't have any special career, English major and has taught at community college. He's dated around and is now married to a Japanese woman who might actually be taller than him. It's close. I've never heard him talk with any defeatist attitude about being short or having trouble with women. BTW I've noticed lots of Jewish men are short. I've known 3 who were all under 5'6. All are married and have kids. Edited June 7, 2015 by PogoStick
JuneJulySeptember Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 Just date Asian and Latina women. Problem solved. A good male friend of mine is tiny (by my standards since I'm 6'2). I'm sure he's under 5'6 and maybe 135 lbs, not muscular, jewish. He doesn't have any special career, English major and has taught at community college. He's dated around and is now married to a Japanese woman who might actually be taller than him. It's close. I've never heard him talk with any defeatist attitude about being short or having trouble with women. BTW I've noticed lots of Jewish men are short. I've known 3 who were all under 5'6. All are married and have kids. He might not voice it in public. But when I'm with other short guys, they bring it up. I don't think anybody here is idiotic enough to voice this kind of stuff in person. Short guys can get gals, you're just working from a smaller pool. The shorter you are, the smaller it is. But you're right, they can get women.
BronzeAgeJaeger217 Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 I'm 5'6 and also in the medical profession. I do okay, but I'm told that I'm "cute" or "hot" often enough. Has a woman ever commented positively on your looks or otherwise shown interest in you? Also, you have an arranged marriage as an option, no? I would kill to have that option, personally. Its futile for a man to have a woman comment on his looks since women are generally not forward with men like that, and as for women showing interest, many men are oblivious to those signs
Arieswoman Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 OP, You asked ;- Q. Given my height, am I at all dateable? A. Absolutely. From what I have seen of Native Americans they have good skin, striking features with great bone structure. Go for it ! And good luck with your career BTW
marigo Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 No, you will not have a problem finding women that will date you. The last guy I dated who I was madly in love with was 5'5" and his goals and determination in life and career are what drew me to him. And I am used to dating guys who are at least 6'0" ft. I'm not gonna lie but before our first date, I was a little bit concerned with the height but the moment I met him in person, I was smitten. I forgot about the height thing and it never bothered me. I mean yes, you will meet girls who wouldn't date you because of your height but you will also meet girls who will date you because they are able to focus on what you are as a person. Be positive and focus on your goals and aspirations. The right person will come along.
elaine567 Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 OP, You asked ;- Q. A. Absolutely. From what I have seen of Native Americans they have good skin, striking features with great bone structure. Go for it ! And good luck with your career BTW I think the OP is an Indian-American not a Native American. He says there is the arranged marriage option available for him and I do not think Native Americans have arranged marriages.
Vercetti Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 Next thing you know you'll say the people who go to the doctor complaining of their health problems are pessimists and that the cause of their problems comes from their negative personality. Dude, most of my shorter than average friends had decent faces and weren't obese and they spent their teen and 20s single, without knowing any sexual success with women. They weren't interested in only women who looked like Jessica Simpson. They were rejected for their height. If you were ever to visit the forums dedicated to short men you'd learn that most short men are victims of heightism, and if women want a tall man - the taller the better until a certain point- then its only natural for short men to be victims of descrimination. My short friends all eventually found mates. Those mates spent a few years with my friends then collected alimony and massive child-support. A couple of my friends found out later the kid they were raising belonged to other men. Yeah, women really are attracted to ambition. It makes them feel sexually attracted to the guy Women aren't attracted to confidence. Confidence is a little gimmick PUA's and women use to encourage men into pursuing women. A pua is going to base all of his work, his teachings on becoming the Alpha male with confidence being that fuel that turns socially awkward young men into casanovas, and women are going to use the excuse of confidence as a motive to reject you. ''oh, I rejected you because you weren't confident enough. It had nothing to do with your short stature, your receding hairline, or whatever other flaw you have and that I can't publicly confess to being as attracted to looks as men are. Of course if the women who reject you are honest you lose the incentive to pursue women and then who is going to date them, marry them and give them children? Look, buddy. If you work hard you can attract a woman. You can even marry her. I have a friend who is absolutely beautiful. She's married to a guy who owns a highly sought-after private clinic. I'm a bum. A trust-fund baby who hasn't done anything with my life because I don't have to. I even payed other people to do my work in college, and the women who slept with me couldn't care less about my lack of ambition or goals in life. I looked good, I made them all hot and bothered and that's what matters to women. And yet, despite being a bum who never bothered with anything I'm sleeping with my friend whereas the doctor who is highly successful, confident and ambitious has no other option but to visit escorts because his wife, my friend, is too busy having ''headaches.'' This is what awaits you if you pay attention to any of this silly, feel-good advice that you can attract a mate via your personality and your accomplishments. Maybe in the 50s, but women make their own money nowadays and they're looking for something else. Listen to men who are successful with women. Thanks for confirming the lack of ambition that was telegraphed in your first post. Find it hard to believe someone that had effortless success with women would magically have the perspective of some forever alone outcast. All the fantasy blanket statements of society are delusions. The more deny such the more confirmation of your lot in life is displayed. If the op should only listen to those successful with women, well... 1
Elam Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 Thanks for confirming the lack of ambition that was telegraphed in your first post. Find it hard to believe someone that had effortless success with women would magically have the perspective of some forever alone outcast. All the fantasy blanket statements of society are delusions. The more deny such the more confirmation of your lot in life is displayed. If the op should only listen to those successful with women, well... yeah, and I can also tell you the tell-tales of the black plague. It must mean that I have the black plague. Kid, I've befriended all sorts of people in my life. Forever alones like yourself, casanovas and so forth. Here's an explanation for my lack of ambition. All that men do. Becoming doctors. Putting themselves inside a wooden boat and searching for new continents. Becoming musicians, actors. Its all a way to get women. I already have what I want. There is no point in having ambition. Don't be jelly. Maybe your mommy should have married a doctor like my own mother did.
pteromom Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 That's funny because there are communities like /short and /foreveralone with many, many young men who are in their late 20s and never even had a date, let alone a kiss. There are communities for ANYTHING. Just because someone finds a group of kindred souls to be commiserate misery with doesn't mean that their situation might not be largely their own fault. I've seen pictures of these guys. They aren't ugly, they aren't obese. What they are is short. The women they are into aren't Jennifer Lawrences. They approach a multitude of women of varied looks and heights and still they are rejected by all. I would need more info. How are they approaching women? Do they walk around with chips on their shoulders about their height, just expecting to be rejected? Do they have the attitude of love/hate with women, where they want to get laid and find women physically attractive, but HATE that women have the power to give it up or not, and think that women are just after money and status and are entitled princesses? Because with a lot of guys, that attitude just DRIPS off them...it's like a glowing neon "do not date me" sign. And although YOU seem to have that attitude, you say you are successful, so you've obviously learned to hide it and know what to say what unsuspecting victims...er...women...want to hear. I don't care about the handful of women who are willing to disregard a man's short stature when selecting him for a relationship or a hook-up(although the men who are short and successful with women tend to have extreme good-looks like Tom Cruise). Well - OP does! He doesn't seem to want the same things you want. You said in other threads that you aren't interested in a relationship or marriage, and you just want to get laid. OP has said he IS interested in a girlfriend and eventually, wife. So he has completely different goals than you do - which makes your advice largely invalid. OP is going to be a successful guy, he's obviously smart, and he says he has a nice face and is working out. He can find someone. There's no reason he can't. And it won't necessarily be someone who doesn't find him attractive and just wants his future money. Do you really think so little of women? Most of the men I've met who were short only began to have some success with women when they finally got their career started. And that wasn't success. Success is getting laid for free. What these guys had was a ''relationship'' which saw women trade sexual intimacy for resources. I don't know that OP shares your definition of success. What PUA thinking? I don't deal with PUAs. Treating women as resources to be manipulated and used rather than people with their own feelings and personalities.
fireflywy Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 Thanks for your replies. Any more thoughts? I should have tried dating earlier but I got so buys with school and getting into med school I ignored this part of life. I'm determined to put myself out there but at times I do get disheartened by the height thing. Dude, if you're going through medical school and you become a doctor the least of your worries will be your height; it will be attractive women going after your wallet. Have no fear, if you build it, they will come.
JuneJulySeptember Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 Dude, if you're going through medical school and you become a doctor the least of your worries will be your height; it will be attractive women going after your wallet. Have no fear, if you build it, they will come. Hmm. Not quite. The best way that I can describe how becoming a doctor helps you is that women would be a the very fringe of your league are now options. Being a doctor isn't THAT much $, plus looks is still king. Most women still wouldn't date Bill Gates. Though I'm sure he could get at least a few very beautiful women. 1
Author dsg14 Posted June 9, 2015 Author Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) Yes I am indian american (like the country) not Native American. Over the past year I have worked out a lot. Im looking forward to school as I'll be on my own again (spent past year at home as I had just graduated college and was applying to med school) and interacting with more people (I live in a small town currently and besides the occasional meet up with HS friends not much goes on). And yes to pteromom I am hoping that someday I do find someone for a long term commitment. What annoys me most about my current situation is the lack of someone to deeply share experiences with. I have some great friends and a wonderful family but it would be nice to have someone to more deeply enjoy life with. I have attempted to improve myself over the past year (work out, learn to cook, dress well) so that there is more to me than just an MD after my name. Edited June 9, 2015 by dsg14
BronzeAgeJaeger217 Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 5'7 is not too bad of a height for a guy right?
fireflywy Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 Hmm. Not quite. The best way that I can describe how becoming a doctor helps you is that women would be a the very fringe of your league are now options. Being a doctor isn't THAT much $, plus looks is still king. Most women still wouldn't date Bill Gates. Though I'm sure he could get at least a few very beautiful women. Two words which shoot this entire post down: Donald Trump
JuneJulySeptember Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) Two words which shoot this entire post down: Donald Trump I don't know why people say this. Not only is Donald Trump 6'3" and imposing, aggressive, and masculine, he is also pretty handsome and was even more so when he was younger. http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/10/22/business/23trump2.jpg Bill Gates is more slight, prototypical nerdy, non-masculine, not as handsome. Trump would get women even if he wasn't rich. He's arrogant and goes after what he wants without caring who is in the way, traits that women in general love. Bill Gates gives away all of his money to charity. Oh yea. That gets women hot. Not. Edited June 14, 2015 by JuneJulySeptember
TheBathWater Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 I'm a 23 year old indian american guy about to enter his first year of med school. My family didn't have a lot growing up and I really pushed myself in HS and college to do well, really ignoring the opposite gender. I was also overweight. Thankfully I've slimmed down and added some muscle over the past year. I want to put myself out there ( in terms of dating etc) come fall. However, given that I'm 5ft 4, would anyone be willing to date me? It's discouraging to see how much the ladies value height. I can't fault folks for having some very deeply ingrained preferences, but a part of me fears that I'll be alone for forever. It's not a selling point exactly, but I think you'll do fine. You are on a good career path and are probably an interesting guy. I'm barely 5'6", and although I'm sure it limits my dating opportunities at times, but I consistently attract and date gorgeous, smart, awesome women, and have been with more women than most men I've met. I've also had male friends who were even shorter than me (your height and shorter) and absolutely killed it with the ladies. I believe that confidence, being an interesting guy, and having your act together, are essential elements for being attractive, regardless of height. There is a difference between men who are good looking and men who are attractive. The former involves superficial qualities and unfortunately doesn't always lead to them being an attractive guy because of how they behave (I'm sure women will back me up on this). So, take care of what you have, be confident, and put yourself out there.
TheBathWater Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 5'7 is not too bad of a height for a guy right? No. I'm 5'6" (maybe 5'7" on a good day) and I do just fine. I like to think before I came into the world, God took note and said: "uh oh, this one's going to be too much to handle, so we better cut him down a few inches".
fireflywy Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 I don't know why people say this. Not only is Donald Trump 6'3" and imposing, aggressive, and masculine, he is also pretty handsome and was even more so when he was younger. http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/10/22/business/23trump2.jpg Bill Gates is more slight, prototypical nerdy, non-masculine, not as handsome. Trump would get women even if he wasn't rich. He's arrogant and goes after what he wants without caring who is in the way, traits that women in general love. Bill Gates gives away all of his money to charity. Oh yea. That gets women hot. Not. Yes. He's SO handsome. Lol I think that if youre going to medical school, that you're also a pretty agressive person as well.
JuneJulySeptember Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 Yes. He's SO handsome. Lol I think that if youre going to medical school, that you're also a pretty agressive person as well. Nah. He's not a bad looking guy at all. Average looking white guy at worst. Which places him above average in the grand scheme. And like I said, he's very tall. As far as being an MD, it depends what kind you become. If you become the guy at the local clinic or VA hospital, you'll still be nerdy and passive and won't attract women who like aggressive men. If you however you become chief surgeon who bosses people around, then yea, you'll attract women who like that. But like I said, it will help, especially Indian and Asian guys with Indian and Asian women. You will almost never be disqualified due to your career within that dating circle.
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