Vintage79 Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 There are plenty of women out there who would be willing to date someone that is 5'4. I know a lot of Asian men who are not tall and they have no problem meeting women. Just focus on building friendships with women. From friendship relationships will blossom. As you spend time with them casually you will get to know them and they will get too know you. That is where feelings of attachment form. Yep, you'll get some quality platonic feelings out of that approach...way to go on telling him how to poison potential romance.
Author dsg14 Posted June 4, 2015 Author Posted June 4, 2015 Ladies if you are just trying to let me down easy it's ok. Better to swallow the hard truth early. Ugh genetics. I love you for my intelligence but despise you for my height. 1
Elam Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Ladies if you are just trying to let me down easy it's ok. Better to swallow the hard truth early. Ugh genetics. I love you for my intelligence but despise you for my height. Its pointless to hate your height. You are as you are. Just don't get married and don't co-habitate and you'll do fine. Women won't sleep with you unless you are hot, but if you study hard you'll be able to rent girlfriends in the future. Just get a vasectomy and don't get them pregnant. 1
BronzeAgeJaeger217 Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 i'm 5'7, for a while I was self-conscious about my height
Charles in Charge Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 There is a desire or fetish for everything. You could have a horn growing out of your forehead and there would be, at the very least, a niche group of women/men into it. In the past people who weren't considered "classically" attractive had to rely on chance that they might find someone into their peculiarity. Not so these day because we have the internet. Google women who love short men and you'll no doubt find what you're looking for. If that fails just focus on getting rich...then your appearance will be a non issue.
EgoJoe Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Forget about negativity. Just focus on learning about emotions and attraction. Get a part time sales job to learn how to interact with people better.
Phoenician Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I am 5 4.1" , so I am am more privillaged than you with 0.1" In college I was in your feet , but shortly after the first lady I dated with taller than me . don't ever attribute your height as an issue in dating . of course you will not shoot for a 6' girl , just concentrate now on a succesfull carrier , and you will have so many dates on the trip
Shining One Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Short and Indian is a rough combination. Women who are selective about race or height are automatically out of your dating pool, so online dating will be brutal. The end result is that you will have to approach significantly more women than average to get positive responses.
Author dsg14 Posted June 5, 2015 Author Posted June 5, 2015 Yea I can't believe it's 2015 and we still have racial preferences. That will close some doors but hey they can stay closed. Someone like that isn't worth knowing anyway. I've actually got a good face, I'm on a good career path. Time for me to make the most of it. 6
BlackOpsZombieGirl Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 Yea I can't believe it's 2015 and we still have racial preferences. That will close some doors but hey they can stay closed. Someone like that isn't worth knowing anyway. I've actually got a good face, I'm on a good career path. Time for me to make the most of it. This is an awesome attitude to start with, OP! As you go on to date in the future, you'll come to find that all of the negative posts in your thread aren't true about ALL or even most women. Negative and blatantly untrue posts such as this one is something that I want you to IGNORE: You'll be invisible to most women, and you'll probably spend your 20s without a girlfriend, nor will you hook-up, but as you enter your 30s you'll be making a lot of money and women will want to marry you because of your income. They won't be sexually attracted to you but at least you'll get some before they divorce you. Honestly, if I was you I'd stick to escorts and forget about dating and marriage. Negative people who make posts such as these to a person such as yourself who is looking for positive and realistic feedback and advice are miserable people who see the worst in everything and that make sweeping generalizations to justify their pessimistic attitudes as well as their lack of motivation and ambition to continue to strive at succeeding with whatever it is that they're seeking - despite the roadblocks, detours or disadvantages that they have or may encounter. Continue onward with your strong and positive attitude, OP. Most women who see that you're ambitious and successful with pursuing your career will be attracted to your AMBITION and your CONFIDENCE - they will NOT see you as a 'bank account' as some on here would want you to believe. Sure, you may encounter an occasional 'gold digger', but when you do, just kick them to the curb and continue with dating DECENT and RESPECTABLE women who will be attracted to your physicality as well as to your motivation to succeed in your life. You have a good head on your shoulders, you're intelligent, articulate, you know what you want...and you're determined and ambitious enough to attain it! THAT is very attractive!! Good luck, OP. Chin up, proceed onward with your goals and...SMILE! The world is YOUR oyster. . 1
Author dsg14 Posted June 6, 2015 Author Posted June 6, 2015 This is an awesome attitude to start with, OP! As you go on to date in the future, you'll come to find that all of the negative posts in your thread aren't true about ALL or even most women. Negative and blatantly untrue posts such as this one is something that I want you to IGNORE: Negative people who make posts such as these to a person such as yourself who is looking for positive and realistic feedback and advice are miserable people who see the worst in everything and that make sweeping generalizations to justify their pessimistic attitudes as well as their lack of motivation and ambition to continue to strive at succeeding with whatever it is that they're seeking - despite the roadblocks, detours or disadvantages that they have or may encounter. Continue onward with your strong and positive attitude, OP. Most women who see that you're ambitious and successful with pursuing your career will be attracted to your AMBITION and your CONFIDENCE - they will NOT see you as a 'bank account' as some on here would want you to believe. Sure, you may encounter an occasional 'gold digger', but when you do, just kick them to the curb and continue with dating DECENT and RESPECTABLE women who will be attracted to your physicality as well as to your motivation to succeed in your life. You have a good head on your shoulders, you're intelligent, articulate, you know what you want...and you're determined and ambitious enough to attain it! THAT is very attractive!! Good luck, OP. Chin up, proceed onward with your goals and...SMILE! The world is YOUR oyster. . Thank you. I'm a realist. It'll be tough but maybe someone's out there. Thank you again for your kind and uplifting words. I just have to remember to make time to put myself out there during med school & residency.
Elam Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) This is an awesome attitude to start with, OP! As you go on to date in the future, you'll come to find that all of the negative posts in your thread aren't true about ALL or even most women. Negative and blatantly untrue posts such as this one is something that I want you to IGNORE: Negative people who make posts such as these to a person such as yourself who is looking for positive and realistic feedback and advice are miserable people who see the worst in everything and that make sweeping generalizations to justify their pessimistic attitudes as well as their lack of motivation and ambition to continue to strive at succeeding with whatever it is that they're seeking - despite the roadblocks, detours or disadvantages that they have or may encounter. Continue onward with your strong and positive attitude, OP. Most women who see that you're ambitious and successful with pursuing your career will be attracted to your AMBITION and your CONFIDENCE - they will NOT see you as a 'bank account' as some on here would want you to believe. Sure, you may encounter an occasional 'gold digger', but when you do, just kick them to the curb and continue with dating DECENT and RESPECTABLE women who will be attracted to your physicality as well as to your motivation to succeed in your life. You have a good head on your shoulders, you're intelligent, articulate, you know what you want...and you're determined and ambitious enough to attain it! THAT is very attractive!! Good luck, OP. Chin up, proceed onward with your goals and...SMILE! The world is YOUR oyster. . Next thing you know you'll say the people who go to the doctor complaining of their health problems are pessimists and that the cause of their problems comes from their negative personality. Dude, most of my shorter than average friends had decent faces and weren't obese and they spent their teen and 20s single, without knowing any sexual success with women. They weren't interested in only women who looked like Jessica Simpson. They were rejected for their height. If you were ever to visit the forums dedicated to short men you'd learn that most short men are victims of heightism, and if women want a tall man - the taller the better until a certain point- then its only natural for short men to be victims of descrimination. My short friends all eventually found mates. Those mates spent a few years with my friends then collected alimony and massive child-support. A couple of my friends found out later the kid they were raising belonged to other men. Yeah, women really are attracted to ambition. It makes them feel sexually attracted to the guy Women aren't attracted to confidence. Confidence is a little gimmick PUA's and women use to encourage men into pursuing women. A pua is going to base all of his work, his teachings on becoming the Alpha male with confidence being that fuel that turns socially awkward young men into casanovas, and women are going to use the excuse of confidence as a motive to reject you. ''oh, I rejected you because you weren't confident enough. It had nothing to do with your short stature, your receding hairline, or whatever other flaw you have and that I can't publicly confess to being as attracted to looks as men are. Of course if the women who reject you are honest you lose the incentive to pursue women and then who is going to date them, marry them and give them children? Look, buddy. If you work hard you can attract a woman. You can even marry her. I have a friend who is absolutely beautiful. She's married to a guy who owns a highly sought-after private clinic. I'm a bum. A trust-fund baby who hasn't done anything with my life because I don't have to. I even payed other people to do my work in college, and the women who slept with me couldn't care less about my lack of ambition or goals in life. I looked good, I made them all hot and bothered and that's what matters to women. And yet, despite being a bum who never bothered with anything I'm sleeping with my friend whereas the doctor who is highly successful, confident and ambitious has no other option but to visit escorts because his wife, my friend, is too busy having ''headaches.'' This is what awaits you if you pay attention to any of this silly, feel-good advice that you can attract a mate via your personality and your accomplishments. Maybe in the 50s, but women make their own money nowadays and they're looking for something else. Listen to men who are successful with women. Edited June 6, 2015 by Elam
jay1983 Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 I know you're tied up with med school right now, but when you have free time, start weight lifting. You'll be short, but swoll. Trust me it'll make up for your height and plus you'll be a doctor, most female doctors, pharmacists, nurse practitioner date people in their field and on their level.
Author dsg14 Posted June 6, 2015 Author Posted June 6, 2015 I know you're tied up with med school right now, but when you have free time, start weight lifting. You'll be short, but swoll. Trust me it'll make up for your height and plus you'll be a doctor, most female doctors, pharmacists, nurse practitioner date people in their field and on their level. I'm about to start med school come fall but yea I have been lifting. I definitely been getting more muscular.
Phoe Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 Ladies if you are just trying to let me down easy it's ok. Better to swallow the hard truth early. Ugh genetics. I love you for my intelligence but despise you for my height. What?? Why do you think the women here who have dated men shorter than them, shorter than you, are just letting you down easy? Are all the stories you're being told in this thread lies? Every last one of them is just made up? I'm 5'8. I've dated more men who are shorter than me than men who are taller than me and I never gave a crap. Height has never mattered to me. ^^ But that's just letting you down easy, right? None of that is actually true, right? 2
JuneJulySeptember Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) I'm a 23 year old indian american guy about to enter his first year of med school. My family didn't have a lot growing up and I really pushed myself in HS and college to do well, really ignoring the opposite gender. I was also overweight. Thankfully I've slimmed down and added some muscle over the past year. I want to put myself out there ( in terms of dating etc) come fall. However, given that I'm 5ft 4, would anyone be willing to date me? It's discouraging to see how much the ladies value height. I can't fault folks for having some very deeply ingrained preferences, but a part of me fears that I'll be alone for forever. If you really make it and become a doctor, then you shouldn't have a problem. Women of Indian/East Asian heritage are very often looking for highly accomplished men and are very often doctors themselves and want an equal, so you should have a nice pool to choose from. Some will still care about height, but enough of them won't. If you specialize in a high paying field, then your pool will probably triple. If you become an anesthesiologist, you'll probably juggle some women even. I'm of a similar background and if I had become a doctor, I would have had a much easier time with women. There was a time where I very much wish I had gone down that path because it was set up for me. And women of our demographic are so hung up on success, education, and income. But now I've realized I don't really want a woman who wanted me if I was a doctor/dentist/banker, but didn't if I wasn't. But, that's not a problem for some of my friends. Edited June 6, 2015 by JuneJulySeptember 1
Author dsg14 Posted June 6, 2015 Author Posted June 6, 2015 If you really make it and become a doctor, then you shouldn't have a problem. Women of Indian/East Asian heritage are very often looking for highly accomplished men and are very often doctors themselves and want an equal, so you should have a nice pool to choose from. Some will still care about height, but enough of them won't. If you specialize in a high paying field, then your pool will probably triple. If you become an anesthesiologist, you'll probably juggle some women even. I'm of a similar background and if I had become a doctor, I would have had a much easier time with women. There was a time where I very much wish I had gone down that path because it was set up for me. And women of our demographic are so hung up on success, education, and income. But now I've realized I don't really want a woman who wanted me if I was a doctor/dentist/banker, but didn't if I wasn't. But, that's not a problem for some of my friends. Thanks. Thats good to hear. I too hope someone would be with me even if I weren't going to be a doc but we'll see. We've gotta take this world as it is, not as we wish it to be. Hopefully the doc thing is a big bonus rather than the only reason somebody might wish to be with me.
still_an_Angel Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 I admit I'm on the "tall guys" camp myself, that is my preference. I actually haven't been with a guy who is below 5'10. But there's this rigger in my club who just makes me swoon! His confidence, and the way he holds himself is just a turn on. And he is about 2 inches shorter than me, and his long hair is prettier than mine - go figure! Its not about the height, I don't even consider him handsome, but he exudes confidence and that is what makes him attractive. And there's this other guy I met who is about as tall as me (i'm nearly 5'5) but he has this way of looking at me, talking to me, and making me feel pretty that I'm attracted to him as well. Again, its not about the height, its about the way he makes me feel good about myself. You'd do fine OP, being positive helps!
JuneJulySeptember Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 Thanks. Thats good to hear. I too hope someone would be with me even if I weren't going to be a doc but we'll see. We've gotta take this world as it is, not as we wish it to be. Hopefully the doc thing is a big bonus rather than the only reason somebody might wish to be with me. It's a life decision ya know. If I knew back at age 18 what I know would I be a doctor? Maybe so. Again, with Indian/Indian American women it will be a major, major boon. With American women, not so much. They value masculinity and physical over genteel, lucrative professional men, so there it'd help you less.
Elam Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 (edited) It's a life decision ya know. If I knew back at age 18 what I know would I be a doctor? Maybe so. Again, with Indian/Indian American women it will be a major, major boon. With American women, not so much. They value masculinity and physical over genteel, lucrative professional men, so there it'd help you less. Yeah, and the wives of the Indian and Chinese doctors who don't look like Korean Idols, the women who marry Indian and Chinese doctors don't marry men they are attracted to. They bang those guys with popstar good-looks and settle down with the secure, dependable doctor. I find it hilarious when I see these guy's wives driving around expensive cars with their pool boy(s) inside, but I'm certain she's too tired and has an headache when dear hubby comes home from work and wants some return for all of the money he's investing on that wife who values ambition and confidence over good-looks/height! At the very least these guys could marry a good-looking trophy wife. But no. They'll marry any woman who'll smile at them after spending their entire teens and 20s on a pure diet of porn. Meh. My family doctor hasn't gotten laid in over 30 years(he's been my doctor since I was a kid) but you can be sure that he is dearly loved by his wife. I mean, if she didn't care for him she wouldn't drain his bank accounts any chance she got right? Right? Edited June 7, 2015 by Elam
JuneJulySeptember Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 Yeah, and the wives of the Indian and Chinese doctors who don't look like Korean Idols, the women who marry Indian and Chinese doctors don't marry men they are attracted to. They bang those guys with popstar good-looks and settle down with the secure, dependable doctor. I find it hilarious when I see these guy's wives driving around expensive cars with their pool boy(s) inside, but I'm certain she's too tired and has an headache when dear hubby comes home from work and wants some return for all of the money he's investing on that wife who values ambition and confidence over good-looks/height! At the very least these guys could marry a good-looking trophy wife. But no. They'll marry any woman who'll smile at them after spending their entire teens and 20s on a pure diet of porn. Meh. My family doctor hasn't gotten laid in over 30 years(he's been my doctor since I was a kid) but you can be sure that he is dearly loved by his wife. I mean, if she didn't care for him she wouldn't drain his bank accounts any chance she got right? Right? Heh-heh. Upper class East/South Asian women aren't really like that. Many of them make their own money and outearn 99% of men in this country. It's tough being a guy of that demographic for that very reason. They expect high education and high earnings.
JuneJulySeptember Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 (edited) It's no different than women who are 6'3", of course dating will be limited for you. Is there hope for you? Sure there is! There are women who will date someone their height or an inch or two shorter. Never be negative about it.....women are attracted to confidence, and a positive attitude. Well, technically a 5'4" man is equivalent to a 5'9.5" woman. U.S. Men 176.1 cm (5 ft 9 1⁄2 in) Women 162.1 cm (5 ft 4 in) 1.09 All Americans, Age 20+ 91.0% Measured 2007–2010 [153] U.S. Men 176.3 cm (5 ft 9 1⁄2 in) Women 162.9 cm (5 ft 4 in) 1.09 All Americans, Age 20–29 17.4% Measured 2007–2010 [153] Which a 5'10" woman wouldn't have really too much trouble. I agree that in practice being a 5'4" inch man is more like being a 6'3" woman. But numbers are facts. Edited June 7, 2015 by JuneJulySeptember
watsonyards Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 I'm a 23 year old indian american guy about to enter his first year of med school. My family didn't have a lot growing up and I really pushed myself in HS and college to do well, really ignoring the opposite gender. I was also overweight. Thankfully I've slimmed down and added some muscle over the past year. I want to put myself out there ( in terms of dating etc) come fall. However, given that I'm 5ft 4, would anyone be willing to date me? It's discouraging to see how much the ladies value height. I can't fault folks for having some very deeply ingrained preferences, but a part of me fears that I'll be alone for forever. I'm 5'6 and also in the medical profession. I do okay, but I'm told that I'm "cute" or "hot" often enough. Has a woman ever commented positively on your looks or otherwise shown interest in you? Also, you have an arranged marriage as an option, no? I would kill to have that option, personally. 2
watsonyards Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 Damn you're negative. Not helpful. He's negative, but not entirely wrong either. He does give a realistic portrayal of what life is like for less attractive men.
Author dsg14 Posted June 7, 2015 Author Posted June 7, 2015 I'm 5'6 and also in the medical profession. I do okay, but I'm told that I'm "cute" or "hot" often enough. Has a woman ever commented positively on your looks or otherwise shown interest in you? Also, you have an arranged marriage as an option, no? I would kill to have that option, personally. Yes to both. Someone recently showed interest in me recently actually. But I was too stupid to pick up on the signs. I will, particularly when I dress formally, get "you look nice" or you dress well. Arranged marriage is an option that I will keep open.
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