Author UnknownSoldier Posted May 29, 2015 Author Posted May 29, 2015 Perhaps you didn't have common sense back then - perhaps you are looking at these PUA books as a way to 'fake' it. All I'll say is don't be blinded into thinking that the PUA writers are magic gurus who are always right - you sound like an evangelical Christian to be honest in the way you defend your new found faith. There are definitely some things that you can learn from reading these books, and some of what you will learn is actually not bad. But honestly, if you are looking to find someone nice that you can trust, it is not the best way. Oh, I'm not faking anything, because this is who I am.
Author UnknownSoldier Posted May 29, 2015 Author Posted May 29, 2015 Well no one here believes in the books, so like someone else suggested, you might get better feedback from other members of the cult who read these books intensely on a PUA forum. Doesn't that make more sense than asking folks who mostly find it to be nonsense? I'm seeking answers outside the cult, because I'm seeking answers outside the box. These PUA tactics are making me look like a walking one night stand, which might be an issue if I'm looking for a long term relationship. On a side note, PUA helps as a confidence booster, and social skills. If you are a man and women are noticing you, you can feel more confident throughout the day. This also stops men from out-alphaing me.
Author UnknownSoldier Posted May 29, 2015 Author Posted May 29, 2015 A guy must be at least 23 feet away from me if he's any closer I get uncomfortable and its over PS after being on this forum for years now I do not think woman are ruled by emotion any more or less than men are clearly if you've ever spent the time to read all the posts on here throughout the years. My cult already gave me the answer. The answer is that different women have different levels of psychological space, but there are two general rules here. 1. Social Rules When you are in a social setting, you have to use judgement on how close you should be to a woman when talking to her. If she's your waitress, its a social setting to sit and stand next to her, because she has to serve your food. In a Wal-Mart store, you should use general distance as when talking to a friend or stranger. 2. The physical space in her physical environment Different women have different levels of psychological space. If you stand too close, they may back away. If they're smiling and like your attention, they may allow you to step closer.
Author UnknownSoldier Posted May 29, 2015 Author Posted May 29, 2015 (edited) This thread isn't about YOU and what YOU get out of the PUA or how successful YOU'VE been using the techniques outlined in the book which is basically to just f*ck a bunch "chicks" until your d*ck falls off. GO FORTH AND PLUNDER! That is NOT what the OP wants according to all his responses. Once again, we are addressing the OP's choice in regards to using the PUA as a means of finding the girl of his dreams and having a long term loving fulfilling and monogamous RELATIONSHIP. He is the one coming here ASKING for feedback and we are responding accordingly. If you really need to discuss the merits of the book as it relates to YOUR life, start another thread. Michelle, Thank you so much for understanding where I'm coming from. I'm using the cult and the PUA tactics to land the woman of my dreams, not to bed tons of women, and toss them into the garbage. Its also my quest for understanding women. To hear another woman understanding what I want as a man, this has helped my confidence for the time being. I believe in myself that I will find the one, not some whore screwing around on me. PUA tactics can be used for good or evil, it depends on how you want to use your powers. Edited May 29, 2015 by UnknownSoldier
joseb Posted May 29, 2015 Posted May 29, 2015 Michelle, I'm using the cult and the PUA tactics to land the woman of my dreams, not to bed tons of women, and toss them into the garbage. Then you are using the wrong tool for the job. PUA tactics are most effective on exactly the kind of women that will not be good LTR prospects. There are other options than a. PUA b. toss off to anime porn and be a loser There is a middle ground.
Michelle ma Belle Posted May 29, 2015 Posted May 29, 2015 Michelle, Thank you so much for understanding where I'm coming from. I'm using the cult and the PUA tactics to land the woman of my dreams, not to bed tons of women, and toss them into the garbage. Its also my quest for understanding women. To hear another woman understanding what I want as a man, this has helped my confidence for the time being. I believe in myself that I will find the one, not some whore screwing around on me. PUA tactics can be used for good or evil, it depends on how you want to use your powers. To be honest OP, I'm not sold on your choice to use the PUA artist techniques and I continue to stand by original advice posted long ago. At this point, I think you have your hands full fielding all the postings of members reacting to your threads on the subject so...GOOD LUCK! *Michelle OUT!*
Author UnknownSoldier Posted May 29, 2015 Author Posted May 29, 2015 Then you are using the wrong tool for the job. PUA tactics are most effective on exactly the kind of women that will not be good LTR prospects. There are other options than a. PUA b. toss off to anime porn and be a loser There is a middle ground. PUA tactics are massive confidence boosters. PUA tactics give you massive social skills. PUA tactics help you read people. PUA tactics teach you how to not argue with your mother when she's nagging in the car, and let the wind whisk against your face while you're leaning on the passenger window.
Author UnknownSoldier Posted May 29, 2015 Author Posted May 29, 2015 To be honest OP, I'm not sold on your choice to use the PUA artist techniques and I continue to stand by original advice posted long ago. At this point, I think you have your hands full fielding all the postings of members reacting to your threads on the subject so...GOOD LUCK! *Michelle OUT!* Michelle, The PUA tactics are massive confidence boosters. Back in the day, I believed I was unattractive, and it was all in my head. These tactics are the keys to the door of light I've been seeking for years, and I'm typing this with tears in my eyes. 1
elaine567 Posted May 29, 2015 Posted May 29, 2015 Michelle, The PUA tactics are massive confidence boosters. Back in the day, I believed I was unattractive, and it was all in my head. These tactics are the keys to the door of light I've been seeking for years, and I'm typing this with tears in my eyes. Oh dear, you'll have us all crying in a minute. :'(
Gaeta Posted May 29, 2015 Posted May 29, 2015 PUA tactics are massive confidence boosters. PUA tactics give you massive social skills. PUA tactics help you read people. PUA tactics teach you how to not argue with your mother when she's nagging in the car, and let the wind whisk against your face while you're leaning on the passenger window. I did my homework, I looked it up. It's also teaching you to manipulate women, weaken them by using negging so she feels undervalued and make her more vulnerable to sex. You ID your victim, break her down then try to seduce her. It also says 'the game' is all about sex and not about relationships. Bravo. What is The Game: Spot a Pick Up Artist | The Mirror of Aphrodite 3
Rejected Rosebud Posted May 29, 2015 Posted May 29, 2015 OK first to your op there is not a right distance it is something you have to feel, everybody has their own personal space bubble and it is not a good idea to get inside of it with people you're not super close to and besides are you planning to carry a tape measure?? PUA - Personally I think it is lame but bottom line is that some people are good at manipulating others and it comes naturally to them, you seem like you are not one so trying to follow rules on how to manipulate women will probably make you alot weaker in your efforts to "get" them than if you just acted like a normal guy and take your wins and losses on your own merits!! I mean you CAN improve your social skills without PUA you know
No Limit Posted May 29, 2015 Posted May 29, 2015 Wow. Questions are turning more and more interesting I see. You shouldn't be that close that your nose touches her face, but you shouldn't stand so far apart that a car could drive between you two. I never really measured the distance when talking to people to be honest.
Author UnknownSoldier Posted May 29, 2015 Author Posted May 29, 2015 I did my homework, I looked it up. It's also teaching you to manipulate women, weaken them by using negging so she feels undervalued and make her more vulnerable to sex. You ID your victim, break her down then try to seduce her. It also says 'the game' is all about sex and not about relationships. Bravo. What is The Game: Spot a Pick Up Artist | The Mirror of Aphrodite Nope. Cult already revealed that negging only half works. Negging is not that effective, because the woman is being insulted. EDIT: Stop thinking that PUA is all about sex. It's not.
Author UnknownSoldier Posted May 29, 2015 Author Posted May 29, 2015 OK first to your op there is not a right distance it is something you have to feel, everybody has their own personal space bubble and it is not a good idea to get inside of it with people you're not super close to and besides are you planning to carry a tape measure?? PUA - Personally I think it is lame but bottom line is that some people are good at manipulating others and it comes naturally to them, you seem like you are not one so trying to follow rules on how to manipulate women will probably make you alot weaker in your efforts to "get" them than if you just acted like a normal guy and take your wins and losses on your own merits!! I mean you CAN improve your social skills without PUA you know I'd rather use PUA for knowledge, not for selfish personal gain.
Author UnknownSoldier Posted May 29, 2015 Author Posted May 29, 2015 Wow. Questions are turning more and more interesting I see. You shouldn't be that close that your nose touches her face, but you shouldn't stand so far apart that a car could drive between you two. I never really measured the distance when talking to people to be honest. It depends on these two factors. - The social rules of the environment. - Her physical space in her physical environment.
Hawaii51 Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 PUA tactics are massive confidence boosters. PUA tactics give you massive social skills. PUA tactics help you read people. PUA tactics teach you how to not argue with your mother when she's nagging in the car, and let the wind whisk against your face while you're leaning on the passenger window. all these things are developed after a short lifetime of social development, not picked up overnight in a PUA guide. That's why you're coming off oddly to these women. When you have enough practice to let your personality flow, with sincerity, you'll have to fight 'em off with a stick. Sidenote, a bleached ******* is still an *******. 1
blueskyday Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 (edited) Listen, quality women spot bullsh$t from a mile away. Don't act confident by manipulating women. It won't get you anywhere in life to cut people down to seduce them. If a guy gave me a negative comment, there is no way I would be looking to convince him I'm attractive. I'd be gone. Only damaged women fall for that stuff. I'm just being straight with you. How close to stand to a woman? How to be authentic and catch her attention? How to get a date? Good questions and intentions. I'm sure you are a nice guy so be a nice guy. No more PUA. That's not a nice guy. Quality women like nice guys. Just be a strong and principled nice guy. Very sexy. So, the best body language would be for you to stand about two feet away. 18 inches or less is reserved for our intimates, which you aren't yet, but hope to be. So stand 2ft away, 3 if she immediately steps back. Basically, you must be invited closer from the 2 ft into the intimate space. While standing there, smile, look her in the eyes, and angle your feet and body towards her. It's best to be at a 45 degree angle off to the side instead of head on. If the conversation is going well, lean in to touch her lightly on the arm while speaking. Perhaps you could admire her bracelet and touch it (her) very briefly. You could also lean in past her to get something from the bar or somewhere behind her. This could also be to order drinks from the bartender. Again, be brief. You want her to want you close. If she touches your arm, touches her own hair or body, then she is interested, and you can move a bit closer. Read up on body language. It will be invaluable. But really, if your intent is to be interested in getting to know her, then your body language will happen naturally. Edited June 2, 2015 by blueskyday
todreaminblue Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 if i like a guy i let them stand closer.......i like it when guys stand beside me and dont face me head on......im more likely to stick out my hand a give a firm handshake if a guy approaches me from the front.and take two steps back.......which is about a little over my arms length and hopefully beyond his arm...thats if i dont know them...if i know them pretty well ..its ok.........a guy who stands beside me isnt a threat and doesnt invade my personal space he is sharing it and i am letting him....and its actually quite close and i dont feel uncomfortable.....its a side by side thing.....and not defensive and it doesnt feel confronting.......... guys they must pick it up ....because i notice they do that....which is pretty cool....maybe they all read the same books........deb
Art_Critic Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Just far enough so you don't get her cooties.... ... just close enough to make the eye contact sink in while you talk to her....
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